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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    Howsa bouta a little 83 energy for a Fri yea?

    6/16/90: good call DV! Haven’t heard this since the Shakedown Stream, man those were fun.
    Needed some kind of ritual at the time, even TOO watched and she ain’t really into the dead.

    Always dug a good Good Times Roll opener, usually a good sign. Fun Truckin if not mind blowing, solid Touch O,
    Nice FOTD, hot Cassidy, fun but perhaps trepid Big Boss, but fun non the less, and another slightly unusual and fun OMSN to close a fun set.
    Though the first might not of been thoroughly consistent, the second set gets going nice, good versions of most songs, and a nice China Doll in spite of Jerry struggling a bit. Rousing Mags and and always welcome sweet Baby Blue encore. But!…But, to me that whole sequence from Estimated, terrapin and all that awesome psychedelic goodness that follows is what makes this show stand out for moi.
    For a while I was thinking “this shows ok but..?, “ by half way through the second those thoughts were gone baby gone. It’s a shame JG didn’t fully nail the China as that would of really took it up a notch overall.
    Good show, even better in person, first trip to the promised land, hot 20 year old GF along, tripping the light fandango in the cool California night sea breeze. What a trip that was, sighhhh.
    Dems we’re da daze…

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    That image that shows either two faces or a chalice depending on how you look at it.
    If I try to hear those anomalies I can, but if I just crank up some tunes and don’t try, then I only notice when it gets bad, if that makes sense. Another variable: plangent etc. Those old Road Trips and Dicks didn’t have the benefit of Plangent.
    Capitol 71 bonus disc did, AND, their multitrack so if say Bobby had some weird noise issues on his line, it couid isolated and messed with. Wood really love to hear some of that deconstruction tech they used on the Beatles…

    St Louie: going in I thought I was going to dig the 73 the most, and that one disc probably is my pick of the litter. I thought I’d dig the 71, but comparatively not as much as the other 2 years. But at first the 71s really stood out to me.
    I love when that happens!
    I think I recall thinking the music was great overall, but that there were some unfortunate anomalies.
    I guess to get full shows that’s going to happen sometimes especially in years that have been mined more extensively.
    To me when it comes down to it and your properly prepped and ready, once you settle in it’s all about the music!
    Like the band entraining, after a while it all becomes one…

    DV with a call for 6/16/90. That sounds good, just not sure if I should wait and watch it, or just fire it up now?
    Thinking I might dabble this WE with the Louie…still have some primal Doc to catch up on too.
    Finally getting a few extra days off, then one last push at this job swapping out net and installing new Cisco stacking tech. Owners are supposed to be gone so maaaayyybbbeee I can catch some tunes. I really need to get a portable personal rig but I’m such a snob that would get pricey and more importantly I don’t have time, err, if /when I do have time I’d rather just sit and listen to tunes!
    So 6/16/90, think that was my 86th show, weird/cool vibe, you had to be there, or maybe it was the roses ; )

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    For me there's a certain point where both the right brain and left brain agree that it's kick ass Grateful Dead I am listening to and recording anomalies fade into a blissfull background.

    Let it be known i am a recording snob.. so it hurts by my left and right to commit to great performance vs. great recording.

    I still think so highly of this run. Warts and all, it's classic Fall '72 GD.

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    Appreciate the insight Jim, BC and OB.
    I have found sometimes, for whatever reason I hear differently after the first go around with the Dave's and the Box sets. Most of the time, I think damn this sounds so good, once in a while I think, this sounds a little off. Sometimes I panic and think my speakers must be blown. I need to go out and replace them.
    Of course, yes, we are lucky they recorded almost all these shows. We all know there are all kinds of different results of the shows and recordings for various reasons. I would think there is no way Norman finished mastering 10/18/72 and texted Dave and said you can't believe how good this sounds. I could be wrong.
    I totally hear what you are saying on the 71 shows OB. Some of them definitely have a different sound to them, Dick's 35, RT#1.3. Great, but different. And then I compare them to the 71 Port Chester shows which sound incredible and are some of my alll time favorites.

    Jim, sorry to hear about the issues you are having, definitely hard stuff to deal with.

    Let me offer up Charlie Miller's 100th show for tomorrow, 6/16/90. There is a newer version from the man himself from 2019 and the version from VFTV III.

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    Great.. just great

    So I saved.. squirrelled, pinched pennies for 45 years and finally dropped the dime on my dream system I have been planning for all these years. I went completely with Fender Amps on the recommendation of some guy named Hal and now I read this.

    What are these McIntosh items of which you speak?

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    OB- Kenny Ban??. The Fatigues episode.

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    Man I wish I had time….for anything lol
    I’ll try to check some more of these audio anomalies out this WE.
    Hit me with examples if ya got em.

    Ive noticed this phenomenon with other recordings, think mostly 71-72s.
    Definitely could be tape degradation and/or perhaps a little oversaturated originally, but I think there’s amp distortion going on too? They were still mostly using dirty fender power at this stage. So like any real Rock and roller by the end of the night the amps are on 11 etc and with those old tube power sections/power supplies their easy to overdrive.
    By 73 they had pretty much fully switched to big McIntosh power amps, though they were still using the Fenders for pre amps. Like your pre amp at home though, you wouldn’t be pushing the pre amp that much (let the power amp do the heavy lifting). Think overworking a small car engine versus barely stepping on a big V8.
    Could be compromised cabling somewhere. Could be dirty and/or insufficient venue power too? That’s the problem with E lic tri city though, could be a number of things. Probably a bit of all the above…

    Yep BC, glad your digging the nice February weather. These days where it’s sunny and up in the 30s, “it’s gold Jerry, gold I tell ya! I should try to check out the ole St Louie, Louie, box, another I’ve barely been introduced too.
    Hoping 🤞I might be getting a little quality time off soon.

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    The '72 shows from the not quite the Fox Box have been in and out of the disc drive several times the past few weeks. All great for sure. I know first run through that it was the 10/19 jam that really kinda floored me. Yesterday listening to 10/18 again with the sound quality question in mind. One thing that struck me was that Keith sounded muddy and almost sort of kind of out of tune. I pay a lot of attention to Keith's playing, especially the "earlier days." Something was off and my guess was it was a SBD thing, how he was miked, and not Keith. (Edit - or as Jim suggests maybe some tape degradation.) Bobby's guitar also sounded a bit fuzzed in a recording artifact kind of way, though not unpleasant in any sense. But none of that stopped me from a thoroughly enjoyable listen. There was a point during the Dark Star where I was suddenly in a zone of complete wonder - a place that reminded me of my first deep "now I understand" listen to the Rotterdam Dark Star (on my weird balance SBD many many years before the box.) A really very cool place to be inside the music. So yes, that Disc 2 is some serious magic. One thing struck me as funny is Donna's yell in the Playing Reprise. I have no issues with her singing in those early days, truly dig it. And that Donna Playing ROAR was maybe the most primal vocalization I've ever heard from her. She was feeling the "Holy Spirit" big time!! Loved her quick soft little "Thank you Thank you Thank you" after it was all said and done. Another truly epic jam sequence.
    Listening to 10/19 Disc 1 right now this morning. Keith is hard right - i think he was slightly left of center 10/18. A little lower in the mix, tone sounds better to my ear. I'd have to do a hard A / B to be sure that my thoughts are correct on that. Now on Sugaree and Keith's piano and Jerry's vocals have now moved to center of the sound stage. I think Keith sounds a little better than 10/18 but still a tiny bit muffled? Maybe its my brain, who knows.
    Thanks DV for suggesting 10/18 awhile ago. I feel like these are my first really good deep listens to the '72 shows from that box. Like you said, great stuff. I ran through '73 a week or so ago and need to revisit that. At the time I remember thinking that the '72 resonated with me more and given that '73 is generally a big fat sweet spot for me I know that my head may have been ever so slightly out of alignment.
    To echo KeithFan over on the 45 thread - I'm really really digging Dave's 45. Spectacular sound. Great playing. Boy are we some lucky Deadheads. It was 10/1 Set II that really got me first run through. The Black Peter is so freaking gorgeous. And then the "random current" of that CB or whatever for a couple seconds and its like oh my freaking goodness. I can only laugh. Really, Universe? I first heard 1/31 NOLA last year while exploring a little around the 2/6/70 Fox (personal favorite.) I remember being very pleasantly surprised to find that they played that acoustic set. I think every single acoustic set they have in the vault needs to be released. Gave 1/31 acoustic another run through Sunday morning. Woke up from a short nap late Sunday afternoon and had Sawmill chorus running through my head again and again. I"m like "What is this song? where do I know it from? Oh Yeah, Bobby sings it on 1/31!" Talk about a poor boy, talk about a poor boy, let me have a dollar bill.
    Nice Poster Oro!! Your first show! Glad that the Almanac shone a light on your post - hadn't seen it. Another beautiful day here in paradise. Always loved this time of year in the high desierto. Onward!!

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    I have to revisit this.. but I think I recalled thinking something similar and attributed it to someone spinning the master reel a couple times too many before they locked it away. All three nights are good, but 10/18 is probably my favorite of the bunch, it would not surprise me a bit that someone on the inside thought so too. That and the BCT shows a month and a half earlier are both special runs from a special year.

    For kicks and giggles.. check out the Morning Dew from 5/26/72 at the Lyceum from the E72 box and then listen to it from the version on Europe 72. There is static on the box set version where the original sounds crystal clear. The masters degrade especially when people with two left thumbs (like me) handle them. A lot of the early shows suffer from this, listen to 4/18/70 (the Mountain Girl returned reels) sound and frankly a lot of 69.

    Well, at least someone remembered to hit record. Didn't Sony or one of the other music houses have their entire archive burn down a decade or so ago? Image the horror if GD masters were lost in a fire.🔥🔥🔥😭

    Been gone a bit lately.. spending quality time in the hospital with my aging parents. They seem to be on the mend though, which puts me back home and in good spirits. I hope to participate more as I get back on line with work and fun.

    Thanks for keeping the train a rollin' guys.

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    Thanks for looking into it OB.
    I have noticed it on all three CDs from 10/18. I don't hear it on 10/17 or 10/19, which I think are both smoking!

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Doing back to back listens also. Really fun, I had never done this before with these shows. Completely agree with OroB

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I’ve never listened to all six nights of February 1971 Capitol Theater in a row either. I remember 2/20/71 as being very high energy, or was it just my state of mind at that time. Also interesting to note that the dates and days of the week correspond now as they did fifty years ago. I sure listened to 2/19/71 a second go round in the past 36 hours. My feeling at that show fifty years ago was disappointment that Mickey Hart was not there. It’s been looking back and realizing that I was lucky to have seen the original five members live. Same five and a major shift in style from their last time as a five piece band.

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https://kpfa.org/event/dead-to-the-world-marathon/ Today from 9a.m. pst. to 1am pst. KPFA FM listener sponsored radio, holds it annual. Grateful Dead Marathon. David Gans plays unheard tapes from the vault all day, live in studio perfrmances , and guest speakers. 94.1 fm. or listen online, All the information in the link above.

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I ended up listening to this show most of the day... Especially Disc 2!!!! Bring on the April71 box.......Have a good weekend all.... Onward to 2/20/71 Bob t

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Curious what source y’all going with?
I see four on Relisten, they all sound in the same ballpark..

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OB - 116617

I haven't compared, but ol CM is the modern day Trade Mark of Quality IMO.

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What’s up with those 7” Beatty reels?

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Speculating:
To my ears the 2006 Betty's circulating sound like some Dolby application happened (says Dolby A)
the 2011 CM doesn't mention any Dolby info.
Possibly same original source just different transfers.
Charlie would know for sure ;)

EDIT: Could be a personal pref thing, comparably they both sound good. I'm not sure I have the pro jargon for what I'm hearing. But I guess I would say, Miller has more high end / dynamics. But curious how would you describe it?

EDIT2: Now I'm worm holing, but almost sounds like the 2006 is close to clipping as well and potentially a pitch correction needed. Now I'm really curious to hear what you hear ;)

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Both seem ok? I listened to parts of Loser from all four, think the fourth is better than the first, and the third is better still, but the levels are low so I’m going with the Miller. It seems to breath a bit more in the High end like you said, more clear/transparent, the ole difference between a clean window and a dirty window...I.e., you can hear the crowd trying to clap along at the start of Loser better...though the Miller does have some artifacts, but as you say it hsas the Mark just as plain as day, so will hedge our proverbial bets on that horse!
Sounds like somebodies still hungover LOL

Much like George Foreman.. all my kids (and turtles) are named Charlie Miller.

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It was as high energy as I remember being there. I do remember during the end of the New Riders set while they were playing Honky Tonk Woman the crowd was going wild, Bob Weir, Pigpen and Veronica Barnard ( Pigs girlfriend) stood backstage on the right side checking out scene. Bobby was shaking his head in the affirmative. The balcony used to shake during the more rocking songs. 2/21/71 tonight.

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Another fine show but it didn’t quite...? It seemed just a pinch....less? Words aren’t working, it’s a feeling...maybe I was influenced by Bobs opening Hangover comments, cause that’s how it felt (projecting my own experiences); they killed it the night before, now settled in after two big shows, breaking out 7 new tunes, whilst dealing with inter organizational turmoil, it’s Friday night, their in NY, after the big show they relax a tad and blow off steam, perhaps a lot of steam, only to find themselves right back up there before ya know it in a mere few hours and well, time to go to work boys!
It’s subtle, but they seem to have to ease into it slightly, versus turbo charged on all cylinders out the gate?
They start out ok, but the first part of the first set their not quite there yet, good, but not great; a little slop, more tuning issues I.e., Bob in Loser...Bertha and Playin perhaps sound more like new songs then the first two versions. Hard to Handle, similarly to 2/18 is again good, but not quite the preacher come to meetin’ fire and brimstone compared to say some 70 versions?
But by Bird Song they seem to be settling in, like after that first drink/joint and a few tunes under the belt, and away we go. Big Boss then into a nice Cryptical suite, if not the big launchpad it would become, a good rendition of the times I.e., Skull Fuck etc, and they seem to have shook off the cob webs. Another good rookie outing of the Rat, followed by a nice Maggy closer. In some ways I like these Sugar Mags not being the full drawn out beast it could become. They have that more country flavor and like many of these songs, that sorta short and sweet vibe. Like Doc says of these early Bird Songs.
I guess I’d call the second set “status quo”, not in a bad way, just typical songs, played according to the times.
Perhaps some of my feelings about this are situational? Though i might of been influenced by the drop in audio quality from those first two official releases with all that voodoo, I did listen to most of this on the big system versus the first 2 we’re mostly on the lesser living room zone.
Not sure why it’s nagging me to come up with “words” but I can’t, just a feeling. A good show, but I’d take the bling and set list of the first night, and 2/19 overall, so far...
This is where doing the whole run comes in. If I hadn’t moved in order, I might have felt different about this one, so I’m sure much of my “feeling” was influenced by the previous two...
2/21/71: back to the multitrack full treatment goodness!
Onward!

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2 20 is ok, not stratospheric

2 23 71 is stratospheric

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Overall, Relaxed, but in a good way..

The question with these 71 shows for some of us less initiated is; why? Why no more jams, short country or country like songs, etc....why did they stop doing what the proverbial “I” liked (think early 69).
Why, because it’s actually what they need and wanted to do! Lesson here perhaps is to not compare too much between different “dead’s”, but consider what dead THEY were at or after, at that time? The tunes, the length, the tone and style, the AUTHENTICITY they seemed to continually be after with most different styles, sometimes completely so.
So the trap is to not compare styles, or apples to oranges, but rather concentrating on how well they assimulated and perfected the style du jour! Of course it all ended up gumbo style, flavoring the whole.
What ever their current focus, identity or style, without being over the top, they would throw themselves totally into, while always maintaining just a bit of the “old” former styles, until it was time to go furthur, and try something else. That trying to avoid the whole closed in thing JG speaks of...think how much they, especially JG, would delve/deep dive into some of these styles;
Blues
Psychedelic
Folk, Americana
Jazz, free form, just to name a few...and now shoot em up, straight ahead Bakersfield country bar rock. Yee haw pass me a longneck and let’s get rocking!

Cold Rain &Snow opener, followed by a Bobby McGee; tight, but JG hits a few clams, though he has nice feel.
Loser: well played, already not like a new song, except JG solo, still searching for the sound there...
Easy Wind: prime grease, and though he flubs, he actually recovers nicely and improvs outta it. Nice solid, relaxed jam, no ones in a hurry, JGs on now, nothing stratospheric, just G.O. 71 GD!
Playing in the Band: progressing, Phil better every version? See now why they didn’t use any of these shows for Skull Fuck; probably wanted some of the new material on the live album but most of these just weren’t there yet compared to the versions they did use from April...
Luckily we get the multi-track snapshots of this historic little run anyways...Sure we’ll get more... : )
Bertha: progressing nicely. more of the nice relaxed energy versus forced. ....and then....damn tuning.
Eventually, the advent of tuners was a blessed event for them as well as us!
But in the mean time, ahem.
Nice if perhaps apprehensive electric version of Ripple with nice harmonies, including Phil, whom I haven’t noticed so much this run? You can feel the confidence build with the music and with the energy of the crowd.
Lied Cheated: : after perhaps stepping outta their comfort zone a tad, it’s back with some solid straight up, bacon, no chaser! Again that relaxed, confident, comfortable, we own this shit and thus are in no hurry vibe.
Same with another nice countrified Sugar Mag.
Greatest Story: still not fully entraining on this one. Not bad for a new tune though, but another example of the infancy of some of these tunes..
Interestingly, it seems like Garcia’s songs are a bit tighter and more formulated with the band then Bobs new songs...
Nice one 2 punch with rocking JBG to close the set. Rocking, but still that nice in control, what I’ve been calling relaxed vibe, not the frantic, slightly unsteadiness sometimes found

China Cat/Rider: Phun Phil messing with the intro! before they slid into by now an old regular, Really feeling like this version of the band is better served by one drummer. Just as I believe the psychedelic stuff was better with 2 drummers. Nice solid, familiar versions of these including nice Phil harmonies.
Bird Song: smooth and getting smoother by the version.Blows me away that this is only the fourth version!
And it’s got a Cumberland, a second set Cumberland!, though that wasn’t really a thing back then, but boy it’s just right for typing! More settled in/relaxed vibe.PROPER!
King Bee: please pass the napkins cuss there’s a grease hog buzzin’ around my brain! And just like that they tap back into the blues band of yore. And the folk band with, BIODTL by request? is another by now fun, old chestnut. It’s like they’ve done the heavy lifting by this point on a “Sunday” and are just having fun cruising now on some familiar, so easier terrain toward their day off?
RAT; well, maybe not just yet..though by this point it doesn’t sound new. Besides Bob being a little outta tune, it’s pretty damn tight! Another that blows me away knowing this is only the fourth version. Diggin the stand alone versions too.
Trucking: amusingly starts a little slow but they quickly bring up to the M.O. that is this evenings nice relaxed, smooth vibe. A band comfortable with who they are and where there going.
Cool to think several of these Working Mans/AB tunes aren’t really all that old on this night, but already sound like tight old classics.
HA! New York’s got the ways and means, but just won’t let you be, makes me think of ole Strider able to have the means to just hop on the subway, and no big deal head down to the Capitol, but almost gets jumped in the alley!
More of the nice “status quo” of many of the above, on Casey J., and of course got ta keep on moving on up and pushing’ on. Pig Fest!
Like y’all have had your drinks, appts.,soups and salads, but now it’s time for the main corse..the greasy BBQ simmered to fine perfection by this point in time! (I can see BTK drooling out there ; ) ready for some Cherry pie now!
And then, like a 80s brokedown to close a run on a Sunday, a nice UJB, unfortunately marred by the damn tuning issues. It must of been really frustrating to be so hampered, but such was life back then. Guess that’s downside of not hiding behind a wall of distortion like many other guitarist of the time.
When I first heard this show when released last year, I hadn’t heard any of these shows except the 19th. But now that we’re going in order, it fits in just right in the overall flow. Nice Sunday, relaxed, confident, feeling of achievement? Like we did what we had to do, now we get a day off, then 1,2, end of the run and onward.
I’d have a tough time picking wether I liked this one better than the 18th, but I liked it more than the 20, but not as much as the 19th? So far...
Like the band, I’m ready for a day off. Might not listen to any dead at all tomorrow to keep my reference inside this run, but allow a cleanse elsewhere...
But really looking forward to the last 2 on Tuesday and Wednesday as I’ve never heard either.
Until then amigos!

Interesting that in that book of interviews with Jerry by Charles Reich, "A Signpost To New Space", Jerry indicates that he doesn't recognise psychedelic music as being a category in it own right. He quotes Phil, on page 83, as saying " Acid rock is music you listen to when you are high on acid". In which case, 1971 would be just as psychedelic as 1969 if you had taken some before listening.
Personally, not having tripped for decades, I would say that certain records - like "Anthem of the Sun" reactivate sensations for me, while others - like "Skull and Roses", don't. In terms of years, 1968 does it and 1971 doesn't. Still good, though.

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Past two days smorgasbord, 2/20/71. Thoroughly enjoyed on its Saturday 50th anniversary of being there. So I added 2/20/95 Salt Lake City, from my last Grateful Dead shows. Yesterday listened to 2/21/71 50th anniversary of being there and followed up with my very last Grateful Dead concert,2/21/95.
Real interesting contrast and pleasantly surprised how good that Salt Lake City run was. Easy Wind from 2/21/71 sounded like somewhere halfway in the middle from bebop and shy of hip hop with Pigpen witty word play.

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Another great show and I agree OB, it does sound a little more laid back than at least 2/18/71. Wish they didn't drop Easy Wind, always loved it.

How does 6/9/76 Boston Music Hall sound? The last road trips release 4.5.

I just read an interesting write up from Blair Jackson regarding the Road Trips series and why it started. I am guessing many of you know this already, but he stated they started the compilation concept due to very poor sales of the last couple of Dick's Picks and the Dead shows being available on the archive.
They were trying to keep the price low, with two CDs and a bonus disc. They were surprised how much the fans hated this concept and eventually they moved back to full shows.
There is some great music in almost all of these releases and I know I am still busy trying to get my hands on these and all the bonus CDs.

Stay well out there.

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Deadvikes if you don't have the 12/6/73 Cleveland Bonus disc, try to hunt that down. It was from the Denver shows.... Good call for 6/9/76!!! Bob t

Hey Bob t. I do have a digital copy of this bonus disc from a kind soul on this site. The physical copy remains elusive. The release with the bonus disc sells for $300 -400 on the secondary market, way too much for this kid. Love the digital copy and that 46 minute Dark Star is wild.

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Started out the day with a lil 2/23/93.. pretty neat.
Ornette Coleman guesting.
I didn't do the whole show, kicked it off with Lazy River Road.
Sounds like Bolo and his Krewe were there :)

Gonna dust off 2/23/71 after this dip into '93 winds down.

Ahhh... what a trip!

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Strider - soft spot in my heart for the last show of the run on 2/21. i was working in Ootah (pronounciation courtesy of a Zuni colleague) when Jerry died, and when i landed there "for good" next summer i was gifted with a sweet audience of Set II. I love that version of Foolish Heart - a favorite - Jerry's solo is sublime, same glorious energy that i experienced during Foolish Heart in Seattle May '95. and the return of Visions must of been "mind blown" for some (the one on 7/8/95 had me in tears.) Looks to have been a great first set- how can you lose with that Salt Lake City opener?! Broken Arrow and So Many Roads. This show was an excellent choice for the 30 trips box.

looking forward to 2/23/71 later today - that will be a first time listen.

stay safe everyone and enjoy the music. onward!

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Late to the dance and in a hurry....so just went with the CM, which sounded pretty good except for a couple, brief, hiccups...
2/23/71: bit of a creeper...starts a little mellow, PITB sounding a bit more cohesive everyday except for the flub, Big Boss things start gelling more, China-Rider usual fare except JG vocal mistake, Decent McGee, Hot Bertha, Nice Grease, Sorta raunchy Dew, then Mags and KCJ to end the first. Pretty much status quo second set for this run in both selection and performance; mostly good, occasional clam, occasional tuning issues (during the songs, not the before song tuning, though that was a bit much on this recording...like edit!)
Short but sweet Good Lovin’, their still struggling a bit with GSET...but really that’s the only new song that seems that way. PITBs not quite as tight as others, but it’s getting there and it’s been neat hearing Phil figure out his line as the shows progress. ) The rest are hard to believe how together/good they are considering how new they are!
The uuuush NFA-GDTR-NFA and a big Raunchy Rocking JBG to close it. Love dat shit!
I guess I’d rank this one fourth so far, but that’s hard to do as their all close overall, so comes down to preference I guess? This one crept up slower and occasionally stumbled, but built up to typical 71 style end.
Ok, uno mass, mañana!

.....halfway through the first set currently. Got stuck listening to a band called Yo La Tengo. Any of you peeps ever hear of them?

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I think Jesse Jarnow wrote a book about them, so whadya think?

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.....I think they're pretty fuckin' awesome.
Hey, it can't be GOGD 24/7.

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....but I got the joke. Good one lol.
I'm out. See ya manana.

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I never listened to all nights in a row before.
Something about February Grateful Dead blocks of shows. Tradition from past eras. Capitol Theater last go round today. So far it feels like the first three nights were the highest energy. Interesting the original five members played 50 concerts in 1971.

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"the part of the human mind that is capable of transcending animal instincts"

Something I was just thinking of..

Throughout this pandemic I've been talking (more like interacting, in some cases talking), reading, finding and listening to some profoundly intelligent Dead Heads.
I mean really each one of you is fascinating and has something really interesting to say.
It's been striking and I got to thinking, it can't just be a coincidence that so many Dead Heads are really really smart and think more deeply and well... differently, shall we say.
And then it occurred to me...

It's because heads have all raised their level of consciousness.
To go furthur.

Far Out.

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I gave it a good try recently.

Today I am on a forced break from the GD. I have stacked up:

Sky Cries Mary "This Timeless Turning": excellent psychedelia from the early 90s.
Phish "A Live One": a long, long time since I listened to Phish
Pink Floyd "Ummagumma": a psychedelic classic...two discs of mind melt (lime and limpid green, a second scene...)
Velvet Underground (the one with "Candy Says")
Allman Brothers Band Atlanta International Pop Festival (July 1970)

Can I make it through these without listening to disc three of 6/24/83? Hmm...

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Bob mentions the Bomb Scare Threat that night before Cumberland on 2/24/71.

I know Strider and I talked about this a few times.

Sounds like they had to clear out the Capitol Theatre and when they let everybody back in they had even more heads in there than before.

....moving onto the final night of the run.
Psst.....don't tell anyone, but it's got a Cumberland.
Hey!! No spoilers GOGD.
Anyone notice that the final three shows were all 2 hrs and 51 minutes long?

VGUY: but after all the smoke/tuning breaks their down to an hour and a half, ; )

DANE COUNTY: so PF, I take it you like that 6/24/83? Just curious cause I’m not familiar with the less familiar of the Dane County shows. If their good, DANE COUNTY could be a nice little box like Giants, only more years.
* NOTE 2/3/78 already released as DP 18 so that one is out of the mix.
That leaves:
- 2/15/73: Dark Star, HCSS etc
- 10/25/73: DS>>Mind Left Body>>DS, HCSS, WRS etc
- 2/4/79: Shakedown, Heat of Me, LL/Sup, ?
- 12/3/81: S/F, Deep Elem, Baby Blue etc,
- 6/24/83: Shakedown, Far From Me, Candyman, H/S/F, Dew etc

Most folks know about the 2 killer 73s, but I’m not familiar with the 79 show, and that one might not be in the vault?
But we know the 81 show smokes as we covered that here last fall I believe It was? So that leaves the 83 show of which I know nas-sing? So depending on quality and/or tapes, might be a cool little box there! If there are a couple cassette shows in there surly the mighty 73s would make up for it...
Ok Dave, I’ll await payment for my work here, LOL

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2/24/71: can’t explain it but liked this one a tad more then some of the others? Perhaps the “variety” and or song positioning? Also has its own vibe...
I mean it DOES have a Cumberland! 3rd of 4. 3rd of 3 Hard to Handles which was smoooothhh! 2nd of only 2 King Bees, and 2nd of only 8 for the year! Only Minglewood, and 1 of only 2 for the year! And 2nd of only 2 Lovelights.
Another Good Lovin’ to pad the pig menu, recommends extra napkins, cause this shows a bit of a grease fest!
They come outta the gate strong but together and showing nice restraint, no hang over here (hey, tapes rolling gotta try and get em down tight).
More of the new stuff, including interesting Bertha with slight differences with the intro, Phil playing some swirling 60s psychedelic pop licks for a couple seconds. Playing was sounding probably best yet until the miss...and another sorta short Godd Lovin’...well shorter if you remove the drum solo anyway...another all around good first set. Hell this whole run is basically made up of all around good first sets no matter which set it actually is.
Though this second set is different, which besides the performance, has more song variety, which is nice at this point since these shows are pretty repetitive (probably in part because of the tape rolling. You can tell by now what songs their looking to get on the album). Sweet King Bee, rare, fun, sixties style Minglewood, GSET is probably the best of the run and is definitely progressing. Big, (not huuuge ; ) Lovelight closer, along with nice versions of the usual suspects make this a fun one, that to me stands just a hair above some of the rest.
And hey, nothing like a bomb scare to add some excitement. Though nowadays it would be reprehensible to do such a think just to get in, back then you could say it’s kinda funny in that some of us idiots will do almost anything to get in a show!

I’m still high on 2/19, with the Smokestack being the highlight of the whole run for me, I think I’d take 2/21 next and/or 2/18 with that sexy set list, but after that it’s really hard to pick? Perhaps this one by a nose hair?
But no matter what your pleasure tends, it was great to do this run and finally get familiar. It’s always cool to do em in order with no other distractions. Really can hear the subtle, or sometimes not so subtle changes as the shows progress.
Personally the biggest treat was the 3 sick sounding multi-track shows, but some of the archive stuff was pretty damn good too! And of course there’s complete Beatty’s in the vault.
I can see why they didn’t end up using any of this on skullfuck, and now, I don’t think it would of been box material; meaning comparatively to stuff that we will probably get at some point from a little down the road. I’m listening to Ladies and Gentlemen fir the first time in forever, and it’s easily apparent how much more on this material they are after some shows under their belt. Since I’m a tenderfoot in this woods, I’ll leave the speculation of what that future release might look like to those more knowledgeable. I’m sure we’ll see at least some of these Port Chester shows as Dave’s or something as they are ABCD Beatty’s etc...so I think Dave & company took a good route with this run.
Now I’m curious about more of the spring stuff, but not soon lol. I Enjoyed this but need to totally go another direction to avoid burnout etc. Thinking I might hit up the last 3 of four Dave’s as I’ve not spent enough time with any of them...unless...
one of you bastards makes me an offer I can’t refuse here lol!

I lived in the county south of Dane (Rock County....ROCK!!!) until 1980 when my family moved to LA CA.

was too young to see GD while they were so close...

anyway, 6/24/83 was a first listen. so no strong opinions. I broke down and listened to disc three today, but it did nothing for me, even with MDew

I heard 12/3/81 (my 18th birthday...but I was in LA CA) last week
10/25/73...gotta hear that again
2/15/73 yummy

so on and so on

2/24/71 is one that never did anything for me. it just feels so...reserved...to me. give me 2 23 or 2 19 or 2 18, please

Aye an a bit o' mackerel, back-a-racken
Fear 'nd a revit
Din bat-a 'hed 'nd a thoit'
Well i slap'd thea in a flem 'nd din an'a sade
'Nd a creed, creed, creed
'Da fear of fallin' dinga'
Dingan nerver bought 'da raise
And den cread marie'a!
Took equi-epk
Lamoret 'nd a buot
And I roon-doon-doon 'da maken' stye
'N taklin' the fairy hord dat was fallen round de feet
"Never!" de cried "Never shall ye get me alayv
Ya rotten hound of de hondny free
Well I snakd for a blame 'nd a clamore cut and a crust
'Nd i fell dingd befoor 'em ring'st fet
(Sigh)
A roar-e creed!
Frae the bottom of es heart that I would nay
Fall but es deed,
Dead as a can by a feat
Deah...
And the wind cried Mary.

OB:
I think you should listen to the China > Rider, PITB > Drums > Dark Star (with cool themes, you name 'em) > Morning Dew > PITB Reprise, Deal, Promised Land, Brokedown, OMSN, Casey Jones from 10/18/72 before you do that.

Possibly better than anything Dave's released yet?
(Gotcha... I couldn't resist, but now you wanna listen, besides all that's totally subjective and I guess it doesn't really matter.. anyway)

It just kicked my ass!

Yet again.

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trying...trying...Velvet Underground is trying, too

10/18/72 yes
10/28/72 is highly recommended. Cleveland of all places.

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....you might enjoy this band I discovered recently. Yo La Tengo. Might have mentioned them here before (scratches head).
Anywho, they're worth checking out. They have Velvet eyes.

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Nice Proudfoot! Always time to "groove with a Pict!" 🤪 Had a roommate once who'd lapse into loud and fluent Gaelic at the least provocation (such as Several Species). Onward.

GOGD: that’s a bold statement my friend! So yeah, ya got me, ya Bastid! A little too close, a little too soon...but I will check that and the 28th soon. Thanks for the tips guys.

VGUY: berry interesting...only gave it a quick glance. Think the ole lady might like it so I’ll break it out at some point with her. Have you heard enough to recommend a specific album or?

PROUDFOOT: “young man, you will stop this nonsense, and get your work done, or no more Grateful Dead and you can deal with your father when he gets home” ; )

Going Dap 33 as we speak with 35 on deck. Hopefully 36 mañana!....with some of the 72 snuck in there...

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....Electr-O-Pura and I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One are top shelf in my opinion.

Some other albums by YLT you might like:
1. Painful - 1993
2. And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 2000
3. I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass - 2006
4. Popular Songs - 2009
5. Fade - 2013
6. Stuff Like That There - 2015

Have you read about the band name origin?

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Some nice anniversary shows out there today.

Started out the day with the PITB > Terrapin from 2/26/90 which was sounding good, think I need to go back and take in the whole show.
But I jumped over to DiP V28 as I couldn't resist another killer PITB this time '73 style.
And that's where the lil Louie Louie tease before GSET comes in.
(another pal mentioned this this AM, so when it came on, with the memory slipage it's like hearing new things each time!)
Then there's this show that's pretty off the radar 2/26/77.. ;)

And let's not forget the Uptown Theatre in '81 and forgive me I have forgotten what happened at Oakland Coliseum in '94 & '95.

So yeah, there's a full day or so of music there for people to swim through if they so chose to do so.
And I say Phil... My Dog Has No Nose.
Well how does he smell?!?
Blooming Awful.

Happy Friday!