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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3731
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    NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo

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    NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
    The vinyl version updated with new remastering, plantgent process, and includes Cold Rain and Snow

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    Feels like we've been here before, huh?

    51st Anniversary of one the all time greats today.

    Had a good time listening to this last year, we'll see how it sounds this year ;)

    The DaP V38 bonus disc has been in heavy rotation over here.
    Hot stuff!
    And Strider's pal Jay wrote some great liner notes, so cool to hear stories of the '73 Dead scene.

    Hope all yours find you and raise a toast to the epic Evening with the Grateful Dead that happened 51 years ago today!

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    RE: Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

    I usually associate that job with Phil.
    <squeaky voice> Saint Stephen. Saint Stephen. Play Saint Stephen, man<end voice>.
    He can come off pretty harsh sometimes, but mostly with the house lighting crew, maybe.

    Oroborous: Nice summary. I've been having a hard time just getting through the 28th and 29th, but that April '71 project sounds well worth the effort. Hearing the interplay of the guitars so clearly on the 28th board really heightens the excitement of Hard to Handle. So much good stuff happening when Tom Contstanten joins at the end. I finally know how to pronounce his name!

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    Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

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    What a run

    Been meaning to do a big wrap up of the last 2 huge April 71 Fillmore shows, but just haven’t had the time, and I’m sure enough has been said already, so I’ll just pile on the accolades. WOW, both shows are definitely prime Dead.
    I think I’m with Doc in likening the 28th better than the 29, and after hearing every version since 3/24, also think the H2H from the 28th is the Bobbie Dazzler fo sho! But that’s just a dog sense kinda thing as both shows are stellar.
    So glad I did the whole month in order as you can appreciate these last shows even more. How far they came on the new songs and how tight, relaxed, on top of things. Basically they started back at Port Chester with a whole new/old GD; balls out shoot em up bar band with a whole slew of new material that totally fit their new motif!
    At first it could be manic, sloppy, etc, but by keeping it basic and literally pounding it out on the road (like over 20 shows in 25 days) by the end of the run in NY they had this new MO down!
    By the end I don’t think they sound tired as much they just seem extremely comfortable, like anyone on top of their game. There in NY for a week with all the grueling travel behind them, they’ve paid their dues and got shit happening, just need to relax, enjoy, and roll some tape...
    I’m sure some of the vibe was due to tape rolling. Tapes not cheap so you can tell their playing to the tape somewhat, but in a good way...and how sweet to throw in all those old chestnuts for the hip NY crowd.
    I won’t say 71 has become a “favorite” year, but I’m gaining a much greater appreciation after spending this wonderful time getting better acquainted. Or reacquainted as S&R was on constant rotation during my formative years.
    Definitely will be checking out more 71 than just the occasional spin from something later in the year.

    4/22/83: that was a nice change up in the midst of all that 71, another solid off the beaten path show we can check off the list. Spring 83 can be a little inconsistent, but this show seemed pretty together and enjoyable.

    Did 6/22/73 yesterday since I haven’t received 38 yet but wanted a little of the 73 magic. Still feel like a stranger with this box. Someday I’ll get the right time/space and binge out and get right with it. Still blows my mind that Box has not sold out? Maybe I’ll continue on with that today?

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    Put on 4/29/71 last night,…

    Put on 4/29/71 last night, my own transfer from the Nth Generation Maxell I've had for thirty years... it actually wasn't too far along the tree... At first I thought maybe I'd forgotten to adjust the speed! lol. Mello~w start, so I thought maybe I should broaden my horizons and go check out 4/28 first. Man, this show is su~per relaxed, too. Was someone saying something about these shows being at the end of a long run... I mean, all I gotta do is look at the dates to see that, I guess.

    Whoever was praising the recording (everyone!), truly unbelievable. It is weird how even <EDIT><<audience>> soundboard <EDIT> tapes can vary so much from night to night. I don't know who hit record on this, but I'd imagine Betty and Bob, for example, were experimenting with different approaches from night to night nearly as much as the band. Whoever it was , nailed it on this one! As much a die-hard audience tape fan as I am, I still love these early 70's boards where everyone is still so young, and giddy, and enjoyin' the hell out of it. You get to hear completely off mic things like an incredibly casual, "Whaddaya wanna do man?" before they settle on the next tune. The on-mic stage banter in this period is all gold. "How 'bout makin' this microphone work most of the time?" In fact, that may be what makes '71 so endearing to me, even more than the music. Just hearin'em talk so unselfconciously... or just hearing Jerry talk at all!

    I like that Bobby is really clear in the mix, too. The guitars are separated nicely so that even at roughly the same level, they can both be made out. Bobby's always busy doin' his Bobby shix and it's a joy to hear it in this recording.

    I do not think I have ever heard The Rub before. Wow. Thank you!

    King Bee workin' the transmission till the motor won't run no more!.

    It was getting late, but on a piece of paper next to my computer I simply wrote, "Hard to Handle", and that seems to sum it up.

    Oddly getting a little lost during the opening Cryptical, but regardless, major applause for tracking Cryptical, Drums, and The Other One as piece! I love that. I'd like to see more shows tracked that way. I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again. I know it doesn't matter when your streaming... actually it does matter when you're streaming, 'cause there's a short pause between every single track, and when you've got Song > Jam > Different Jam > Drums > Back Into That First Song, that's a lot of baited breath. I also like that someone is still adding the "In a circle" to the refrain at this point. I don't think that lasts much longer, or maybe it's just normally inaudible to the audience. Man, I've been workin' non-stop lately, I could not stay awake another second. Gotta start over from there, 'cause it appears things are about to really get off the hook.

    RE: Three points of contact. Best to have two good buddies holdin' onta ya like you've got a couple broken legs. :P

    Re: Streaming from The Archive. Good question. I don't have any facts for you, but I've got a truckload of speculation. It seems unlikely that the streams would be lossless. It takes, like 30 or 40 minutes just to download a 16bit 44.1Hz zip, but, now that I think of it, each track takes quite a while to cache. On my connection, it's usually impossible to scrub forward until I've heard the whole song at least once. The 24 bit 96Hz shows, though, they can't be streaming at that quality, but there is no noticeable difference loading for playback.

    I used to go for those hi-res shows, but they take so damn long to DL, and I have to downsample'em to get'em on my ipod anyway... which is where I listen to most of my music these days since I've started commuting a couple hours a day. Just installed an Onkyo music player that plays FLAC and any bit/sample rate you can think of, though. Not sure what the DAC on my ancient phone is all about, though, but at least I don't have to go through the whole conversion and library addition thing. I'm obsessive, but not compulsive. If I'm gonna put the show in my iTunes library, I'm gonna hafta do all the data entry, too. On the other hand, if I've got a FLAC player in my pocket, then I'll just put "Today's drive to work and back" show in and not worry about it.

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    "Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?"

    I chortled my beer when I read this. Hilarious.. really, this comment is hilarious on so many levels. Many thanks to VGuy for sharing and for the cone kid for remembering it on it's anniversary. Reminds me of Spikoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, 'people on ludes should not drive.' Clearly wise, well chosen words.

    The things we learn here at dead.net. "Always maintain three points of contact when inhaling balloons in the parking lot."

    I'm behind on what are you listening today. April 71 blew away my free time. It made me look and realize that my digital library is stale.. there have been many Charlie Miller upgrades to shows I had so I have to add these before I listen.. and I am not finished with the FE run.

    I have question to all you wise folks out there.. when you stream from the archive... .is it lossless, SHN or do they stream a compressed file like MP3 when you hit the stream playlist VBR button. Anyone know?

    Hey.. seriously.., to all the kind, thoughtful and far from norml people out there. I am digging how this thread has become a place to not only listen, suggest and comment on a hand picked show of the day but to check in and add some free form comments. Seems reasonable to me.

    Concussion anniversary one day removed.. love it. What were your first words when coming to, It's got a Cumberland?

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    Loving it so far…don’t panic during first 30 seconds of Bertha, they quickly get everything just exactly perfect. Thanks for the sticker Dave

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    Starting to work through DaP 38, slow progress since I've never really been able to listen to music properly while I'm working, plus got distracted delving into 4/28 and 4/29 of '71.

    The 71' is some fantastic stuff -- I've heard it all before at one time or another: the 4/29 Alligator sequence was my first or second bootleg back in college in '76 -- could have also been 6/19/76's Let it Grow/Dancin'/Cosmic Charlie sequence. Both of those are still around, on my gym MP3 player and in my car; the Hard to Handle is my favorite version, a Just Exactly Perfect (tm) handoff from Pigpen to Bobby to Jerry and back to Pig for the close. Later on, I got hold of the 4/28 Dark Star, a perfect, beautiful jewel of a version, from a Gans broadcast, I think, and eventually I acquired the whole 5 show series -- the 4/28 Other One is sublime, and there's lots of other fun stuff as well (Second that Emotion was a delightful surprise the first time I heard it).

    BTW, my DaP 38 is #1856. I have no idea what that means -- seems to be random across releases...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.