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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5541
    The Good Ole G…
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    Anthem Bonus Material too?

    Sounds like a well rehearsed Grateful Dead on a mission here.. over.

    Might need to include the Anthem Bonus Material from 8/23/68 as some extra credit.

    Primal Sunday Morning.

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    Two from the Vault

    Yes, let's do it. Another Pearson Healy masterpiece. I need to find my copy from 1993. Have not listened to this one in a while.

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    I'm game

    Anyone else good for the ride?

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    Come in JiminMD

    That'd be a negative on TFTV, repeat that has not been listened to yet, over.

    Eyes on... and it appears to be a go.

    What's your 20?
    Do you copy?

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    Projects

    I have the project folders if anyone is interested...

    Have we done Two From the Vault here yet?

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    80 FYI

    For those who do torrents the 1980 project folders were recently put up on etree.
    There were a couple of 79 folders too.
    That was last week, haven’t checked back to see what came this week.

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    RE: 10/14

    OB - 10/14 you say.. all right, loading it up on the phone for some exploration. Taper's Compendium mentioned that one as well, I think DV too, so it's confirmed.

    I'd say 10/14/80 for you, make an acoustic set out of the SBD of first two tracks, 4 songs on Reckoning and 4 songs from Audience, or just do the audience tape. Unless you want the whole meal deal, which is good or did you already listen to it the other day? If that's the case dive into 10/9 & 10/10. Or yeah, primal is never a bad option.

    Alright my friend. Miami 10/25 sounded pretty hot from what I heard yesterday, the 10/26 Dark Star is a dark monster. Hampton was historic, so you made the right pick between the two, but yeah you probably should've gone to see them all ;)

    Who am I kidding, I didn't see any shows in 1989!
    Found out they were playing Dark Star again right before the show on 10/22/90. Talking to this American head who said, yeah man they played Dark Star the other night in Berlin. What have I been missing I thought?!?! Ah pre-internet days... I kinda miss them, then again, what would I do without all my time?!?!

    What a trip to think about!

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    So far I’ve done every show through the 16th in order. Though their all good shows, the 14th is the one that I liked best so far (other than the 3 big dogs obviously). Really looking forward to Philly and then the 3 shows I’ve never heard.
    Really curious about 10/25 as I had tickets and was originally going to Philly then Miami since we had such a good time at the 88 shows down there. But when Hampton popped up, especially as “the Warlocks” I knew I HAD to get there, which is a whole other 2 stories, one for each ticket lol. But I had been working less than a year at my job and just couldn’t swing all three. Looking back on the overall situation 31 years later I should of just gone....sigh...but given the choice, I’d still take Hampton!
    So I did all three Dark Stars in a row last week and I like Hampton best. Jersey is tight, short and sweet, while Miami is a bit ruff until about ten minutes in, but as soon as the vocals are finished its like a hard left turn into amazing groovy psychedelic madness!
    What’s on tap today? Bluecrow brought up 10/19/73, perhaps my favorite DPs and a top Dark Star for sure. Have to fit that in sometime soon, but when I can give it a sit good sit down. Need to finish paint & patch then straighten up the garage so want to hit some 8os acoustic, but I think y’all already went there....going to start the Philly run later as I’ve been trying to give some of these multiple plays, especially the shows I’m not familiar with. But need something short and sweet, perhaps some primal dead just to mix it up?

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    Are The Grateful Dead Mainstream in 1989?
    We’ll see, if this record does really well… - Jerry 10/13/89

    Dug into some supplemental stuff while digging the Nightfall of Diamonds and there’s some pretty interesting things to check out.

    As you all probably know 10/16 is the last night of the Dead’s five night run at Meadowlands, the longest run of the year, with one day off on 10/13/89.

    But 10/13 was not a day of rest for Jerry.
    1. Jerry does an interview for CBS This Morning with Mark McEwen in a NYC Hotel Room. He graciously sits through and thoughtfully answers questions he must’ve had to answer 100s of times over the years, nothing really new or revealing here, but it’s fun to watch & listen to Jerry. The interviewer is total cheese (sorry Mark). Jerry seems a little miffed that the Album hadn’t been released already, and says “It’s pretty good.”

    2. Jerry and Bob appear on David Letterman and play Second That Emotion with Paul Schaffer and band. Odd song choice, last time played 4/29/71. They briefly mention a tour of Russia in May ’90 that obviously never happened. Dave asks “How long will you be there?” Answer “Until they let us out” - Jerry

    There’s also a little 5 minute clip of the Today Show from possibly 10/13 or 14 with Bob & Jerry with Rona Elliot, typical of the time, focuses on the Dead Heads and why the Dead are still touring.

    I believe the Foolish Heart Official Video had been released already, so I watched that too. Interesting.

    And lastly and possibly most telling, Jerry makes an appearance on WNEW on 10/16 and answers questions from callers.
    Fan Question - “You thinking of pulling Dark Star or Death Don’t or any of that out of your hat tonight?”
    Answer - “Probably, those are kinda going into an active rotation.” - Jerry on WNEW 10/16/89

    Fans hearing that, had to be pretty stoked about this final night of the run.

    Anybody got a line on the full WNEW interview?
    I could only find a short excerpt of the questions.
    All the above is on YouTube if you want to check it out.

    I dig this show, not sure I can make a worthwhile comparison to Hampton shows, other than they’re both hot and fun to listen too. But I think I like this set lists’ flow better. Dark Star opening the set seems to keep it light and peppy and then the Playing > UJB > Playing sequence is killer. Great Pre-drums sequence and the post drums return to Dark Star > Attics > Playing and WBYGN encore, I’ll take that any day over Dr. Mr. Fantasy > Throwing > Good Lovin’. Now if they’d only played Death Don’t out of space instead of I Will Take You Home > Miracle..

    I had to check out Miami 10/25 Playing > UJB > Playing after hearing this. Good stuff there too. The Set list heads in the audience of 10/25 had to be holding their breath after that, hopefully they stuck around for the next night. 10/25 is real good. Thinkin’ I’ma gonna spend some time with it today

    For you Tour heads any other stand outs you want to give a shout out for at the Meadowlands? I can’t remember any in particular, you all mentioned digging 10/15?

    I agree with Gollum, it's pretty dope that they've officially released all 3 versions of the return of Dark Star from October. 30 Trips boxset sure was good for filling in some holes.
    Just need the 12/31/89 Dark Star to complete the year officially. '81 & '84 Dark Stars should get that treatment as well IMO. But I guess the tapes are good for now. Speaking of '81, I knew that date was in the cosmos yesterday.. 10/16/81!! How could I not remember that connection.

    I like this 1989 trip... pretty neat.
    Bluecrow I’m with you on the Deadcast, check out the supplemental material, highly illuminating. Sounds like 10/19/73 is getting some play and icecremcnkd you are correct it is entertaining!
    Good stuff you all.

    Be Well and Enjoy Your Weekend.

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    yep Oro, i was with my sweet mountain wildflower, far from the maddening crowds (and the DaP 36 thread.) now back in my cave in the hills. lately been diving in to the Grateful Deadcasts on Workingmans and American Beauty. I'm into that style of deep history and every episode is chock full of cool and crazy stuff. still haven't downloaded the Angel's Share for either but maybe after work today. mention here of that 1st set closing sequence for 10/14/80 piqued my interest. Jed > Let It Grow > Wheel > Music??!! that is simply amazing!!
    My friend's ex (who wasn't a head like him) phoned him (he had moved to AZ) after 10/16/89 to let him know that she heard a Dark Star and that it started to snow in the Meadowlands when they were playing it.
    One of the reigning champions in my corner is 10/19/73 - that'll get a deep listen later this weekend. have to put in some work hours today first.
    have a great weekend everybody.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.