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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Nice seats Bob t. I will keep my eyes out for you and the crew.

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    Lmao, you brought back many memories! Most are funny now but at the time....yeah, sometimes the hard way is the only way to learn! So Remember kids what fat Freddy says: getting drunk THEN stoned is like pissing in the wind! 3/13/81 anyone! Lol.
    Especially enjoyed the “cause I had a job“ and the calling in sick from a pay phone!
    Missed a few top shelf shows because of some BS job, like 7/19/89, 4/9/89, and had to do the pay phone thing several times. Forget what the trick was but there was a way to have the call go through normal without the boss knowing it was LD. Of course the hard part was getting up at the right time and finding a quiet pay phone to call in at just the right time!

    Oh, and big thanks to GOGD for that awesome 2012 Dave video! Between that and his wish list from back then it’s interesting what’s been released and of course what hasn’t been but might...

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    My 3rd and 4th shows. Like a fool I didn’t go on the 23rd because I had a job. Which I missed that day anyway and had to call in ‘sick’ from a pay phone at a rest area on I-57 north of Kankakee.

    On the 21st I was just outside the gate when the music started. They had pulled closed tall chain link gates because people were trying to sneak in. So we were standing there, with legit tickets, waiting to get in. Finally got in and had to squeeze in on the lawn.
    Traffic was a disaster that day, complete traffic jam on I-80. I know someone who, along with hundreds of other cars, just parked on the shoulder of I-80 and ran to the venue. I think that the closure of I-80 that day, along with other problems, is why it had to be Soldier Field from then on.

    Jim, your description of me is accurate, except that was 7-17-89, where I drank beer all day in the hot sun, but wasn’t old enough to buy beer inside. Didn’t eat enough food, had some paper, lost my friends, didn’t drink enough water, then about lost it when Jerry played a few notes of Close Encounters Theme during Space. But everything came back together during Gimme Some Lovin.
    Awesome initiation and learning experience for me, being by myself at my 2nd show and having too much too fast. Memories......

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    Upon re-listening to these Radio City shows from 10/30 & 10/31 they are definitely a couple of high-profile gigs that the GD really lived up too.

    Having known bits and pieces of these two shows from essentially the beginning of my tape collecting days, I've always wanted to listen to them in their entirety as an experience.

    I remember collecting both runs from the Warfield & Radio City and being bummed that there weren't complete SBD sources available, sound quality varied tremendously between shows and tapes and that it was a real pain in the ass trying to determine what existed and what didn't and the best versions etc.

    Not sure if I sat down and listened to them after I got all the shows as I was burnt out by that time. But this latest re-listen was really cool.

    I'd read an article with Betty recently about the editing process of Dead Set and that planted the seed to go back and check it out, so I started with the remaster of that album. Props to Betty, she really could pick the best takes on songs the band played during a run. The Dark Star from Live Dead is a great example. It's always Betar with Betty! Dead Set was in heavy rotation in my early collecting days, it was the best sound quality & closest thing to current live Dead we could get BITD, so we played that album, and Dead Ahead VHS tape ALL THE TIME in high school. And I love those versions of these songs.

    I followed up Dead Set with the full recording including sketches of 10/31 on Wednesday and then 10/30 yesterday. I decided to Watch set 3, the first half released as bonus material on Dead Ahead remaster and the 2nd part available on YouTube (thanks JimInMD & DeadVikes for the reminder). Man if you haven't checked it out, DO! You gotta see Drums with Billy Cobham to get the full effect, it's awesome, Kreutzmann is freaking out.

    Really enjoyed that whole trip and these are some really solid shows, 3 full sets each night and the last two nights of this legendary tour of historic halls never to be repeated again. It might not be the Dead at their best, but it's the best Dead we have, so dig it. 10/30/80 On The Road Again is the definitive version and Jerry's call and response gets me every time.

    Listening to the opening of 10/31 you can imagine the tension as the band deals with technical difficulties when they hit the stage and are filming a live TV Simulcast (A first at the time?, rare for sure). I mean this is 40 years ago, I know what happened and I was still feeling nervous for them as Phil's gear squawks and squeaked. And what happens? Epic versions of Heaven Help The Fool & Sage & Spirit (last time for each?) that's the magic right there! That's the stuff I love.

    Highly recommend a couple of supplemental videos, the famous Press Conference for these shows (I guess it's you and me bub, I mean Bob), and Bob & Jerry's appearance on GMA, they're both a real treat and they really set the shows up in the proper context.

    Alright, lots of good stuff here. Thanks for tripping with me, this has been on my to do list for awhile, and I really enjoyed it.

    Who here saw these shows? Stories?

    OB: Thanks for the Meyer Sound webinar tip, looking forward to checking that out.

    As for pick today, take your pick! Catch up on 10/30 & 10/31 if you haven't already, Listen to DaP V35 if you have it already, or there's the DiP V31 stuff BobT pointed out, which is epic. And we got the final Shakedown Stream tonight of 7/21/90. Wowee.

    Happy Friday All!

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    10/30/80 awesome, have never listened to any of these complete shows. Great for working, nice long shows too, must of been awesome to have been there! Looking forward to 10/31 today, and of course SS this evening. Oh, and don’t forget the Meyer Sound webinar about their history with the dead going all the way back to the wall of sound before there was a Meyers sound! It really is a great time to be a DH.

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    Best tickets I ever got from mail order was this run. I was in grad school in Illinois, we got 5th row, 3rd row and 10th row for the 3 days right in front of Bob. I feel bad for the person behind us because my friend i went with was 6' 4"!!! bob t

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    I blocked out the time to enjoy it.

    I think we can pick BobT and Cone Kid out from the crowd.. BobT is the guy hanging on the sharp-wired fence getting stern looks from Bobby. Cone Kid is the one walking lost and aimlessly through the crowd with the rainbow colored ice cream cone that seemingly never melts..

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    Looking forward to the last Shakedown Stream. Conekid and Bob t, you guys were there. That is great. Maybe we will see you all in the crowd.

    Who has a pick for today?

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    I was at all 3 also.... I have great pictures from the next night!!! Looking forward to tonight's show.... Birdsong is 16 minutes!!! bob t

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    Shakedown Stream tomorrow is 7-21-90.
    I was there.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.