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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1351
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    I'm currently tuned in, even though I am also currently working my way through DaP 36 in the car. '87 energy does it for me most times...

    1/24/71 has long been on my high list. So, it was fun to tune into that PigPen-fest again.

    Keep the hits coming and as always Stay Grateful :-)' :-)' :-)'

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    Hmmm, I was there.
    I’ve heard this …within the last couple years?
    But I should give it another go, cept I got, got, got no time!
    If this is the show I’m thinking of, there’s an unbelievable story, but not now…
    I gotta git down….

    Maybe this WE, though I might need something stronger lol
    Onward!

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    Glad you liked it Bluecrow. My first listen as well. Good show. Recording is good, not mind blowing. Shakedown openers always bring a smile, good Stagger Lee, Box of Rain, Iko Iko, SOC into He's Gone, very enjoyable.
    You get a nice Truckin, Other One, Wharf Rat. Close it out with It's All over now. Baby blue. Worth a listen for sure.

    Did you get a chance to listen to 10/18/72? Interested in your feedback on the sound.

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    Fine set of music. Nice sounding board. Pig clearly didn't have it all out of his system after Lovelight (neither did the band) and that launch into Good Loving is great. Awesome grunge version.

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    That is a fun, energetic, Spring '87 show DV. New to me. Very enjoyable listen. Rocking Shakedown to start - reminded me of a favorite from 7/6 that summer. I saw the first 2 shows at the UIC Pavilion Chicago end of that spring tour. Only non-east coast shows and sort of overlooked cause of that. A joyous time - to have Jerry still with us, healthy and happy and ripping it up! Good to have those fairly recent Charlie Miller ultramatrix transfers for this tour.

    Looks like there is some NW '71 coming into view on the horizon.

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    Mornin’ rockers, let’s rock!!

    Pick Of The Day: Seattle Center Arena, January 24 1971

    Care for a side order of Ian & Sylvia to go with your crunchy main course of hard rockin’ Grateful Dead??? All marrow, no gristle……….

    In January 1971 the Dead made a short excursion through the Pacific Northwest, four shows were scheduled, one was cancelled, and one rarely hears about any of this. Sonically speaking, the Davis and Eugene shows are not well preserved. That leaves Seattle as the best currently circulating surviving document from this month.

    And what a document it is!! It appears to be one long set. The Dead start off high with Truckin’, and they don’t throttle down. There’s a China/Rider for me, a Cumberland for JimInMD, and enough grease to keep HendrixFreak happy. Hope you’re doing well, my friend, but be careful---this might give you palpitations!!!

    In a way, this might even be considered historic, the last glimpse of the band before the seismic changes that would begin the following month in Port Chester and play out through the remainder of the year. And if you believe, as I do, that first and foremost the Grateful Dead were a rock and roll band, then you will probably enjoy this!!

    We are never further from what we wish than when we believe that we have what we wished for…..

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    Passions are vices or virtues to their highest powers…..

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    Sorry about the Bills OB, we were pulling for them at my house.

    The good rats, that is a crazy story. Seemed like a lot going on that night and I love this show.

    Here is a change of pace for you, 3/30/87 from the good old spectrum in Philly.

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    Damn

    Y’all told us NOT to lick the Toad so of course I did and phew, seemed to have lost a couple daze…

    Then it took me awhile to clean off the Gray Matter from where Daverocks head exploded after hearing about the big HW box ; )

    Ok, 1/15/79: overall, at least at first, I felt slightly underwhelmed at times? Good show, but not top shelf? So of course Dave will pick it lol. It’s hard to describe, like their playing ok, but tired, burnt..? or maybe I’m just projecting knowing what the outcome is? Perhaps I’m being overly critical, or perhaps like HF and his first, I’m extremely biased and would like to see a four disc Beauty of 1/10 and 1/20/79 and imagine instead only 1/15 getting released from that stretch, though 2/17/79 is great too!
    I imagine and would love a nice sandwich with NYE 78 and 2/27/79 surrounding a 1/10 and 1/20 middle, but at this point I’m starting to give up on getting anything I want…sighhhh.
    BUT…BUT, that Playing suite surely was a treat, especially that drum jam weirdness, PROPER!
    Admittedly I was doing chores during the first so I’m probably generalizing? But the first part of the second seemed to step it up, and then from Playing onward was a perfect lay back and groove stress melting slice of goodness that was sorely needed! Good call BC!
    Hit 1/17/68 for extra credit. Another fine, fairly tight outing with a mostly good recording cept a few distorty parts, probably old tape as Jimmy mentions? Always like the early alternate lyrics of most songs including TOO here, (and Sailor/Saint from 9/1/79).
    1/17/69 I have dug before, probably via doc lol. 1/17/70 is on the list…

    Hollander Stadium, funny you mention DV.
    I had my cherry popped earlier that year so was truly itching to go. I could have gone with my older DH friends but being “only” sixteen the rents weren’t about to let me go “all the way to Rochester!” with a bunch of hairy freaks, especially after a bogus drug bust landed some of them in the local paper lol.
    My poor mother rip, was terrified of all the R&R shenanigans, especially after she heard somewhere that “someone could stick you with a needle and drugs against your will and you won’t even know it until it’s too late” lol poor mom!
    Like, if someone’s got drugs they ain’t wasting it on my teenybopper ass lol.
    So unfortunately I’d have to wait until 11/9/79 for number 2.
    But I heard about it from my friends and they seemed kinda non plussed. The big news was how the promoter or the band? The Good Rats tossed rubber Rats out in the crowd who being unruly Deadheads from Deep Elem, promptly began pelting the band with the toy Rats lol. Literally booed them off the stage.
    Considered by many to be the poorest choice of an opening act in Dead history!
    I still chuckle thinking about poor Joan Jet opening for Bobby and the Midnights at a theatre in Crotchfester.
    So I finally listened to this one in the recent past and enjoyed it, though I wouldn’t call it top shelf.
    Hope you dug it DV as you continue your 79 odyssey!

    Go Bills, though I if they continue with their recent fuckery their going down.
    Last week was pathetic and I felt bad for vguy having to lose in such a way, but no offense the Bungals ain’t the Fish and if we play like the last couple weeks it’ll be over!
    Kinda like the way the VIKS went down : ( oh well, it’s ment to be entertainment, and this year it surely was for both teams!
    EDIT: oh we’ll touch of Gray…but it’s alright
    Upshot, we can listen to Dead shows on Sunday now instead of waisting time on fut ball!

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    Hey rockers!!

    Picks Of The Day: Eagles Auditorium, Seattle January 22 & 23 1968

    Of all forms of caution, caution in love is perhaps the most fatal to true happiness….

    Caution? Did somebody say caution??!! Friends, throw your caution to the wind, and believe!! Believe that there is enough 1968 in the vault to release a 68 box. Yes some are mere fragments, but sometimes even fragments burn bright!!

    January 22: Folks, it’s all there! Starts with a cool, greasy, jammy Alligator followed by a long, seamless jam sequence that takes us through to the end of the show. Other One, New Potato, Cross Eyed, Spanish jam, Dark Star (in its early, short version), an early China Cat, Eleven, Caution. Need I say more???

    January 23: This appears to be a fragment, but includes a short, crunchy CE/TOO/CE flowing into the rare Clementine, New Potato, Born Cross Eyed, and another Spanish jam (sadly, cut).

    Go primal!!!!

    Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric…..

    Rock on!!

    Doc
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    Looking at 9/1/79 from Holleder in NY for today. Did you ever make it to this venue OB?
    Recording starts out a little rough but evens out mid way through Half Step.

    Finished 10/18/72 yesterday. I think my third listen. Great show. Appears to be a lot of distortion on this one. Might be on my end. Has anyone else noticed this?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.