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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2401
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    The first set of 4/4/85 is special. Must have been a "mood" that night. At ~7:38 (IIRC) in tuning after Jack Straw you can hear Jerry ask "Monkey and the Engineer?" (no reply audible from Bob) and then they break into Dire Wolf. She Belongs To Me is a Jerry-singing-rarely-sung-cherished-Dylan gift, like Visions of Johanna. Esau > FOTD, Lost Sailor > Saint, Deal . Really and truly fine. For me Set II is solid good but not the "Special" of Set I.

    I really really liked Indy 6/30/84. As some may have intuited '84 not really in my wheelhouse most days but this is a real very much solid good show to my ears. It had been ages since I listened to my tape of Set II and hearing the whole show was fun and fun and way very enjoyable. so much so that I'm listening to it again. I agree DV that the recording quality can be a barrier: it's a bit better for the 85 show, but I can still get my brain into the Indy 84 space. I think the Indy source tape changes mid 1st set and vocals are more up front from there on out, seem like from a real good audience to a solid SB for most of the remainder. And like R5Z "suggested" that Set 1 closing Deal is hot hot hot. As a Midwesterner born and raised, I always have a soft spot for those hot shows in places like Indy. And I'm back there now listening to Ramblin' Rose (that's a tune that shares a special place for me and my youngest brother). Set II is fat, trust me. Man, I love what's going in second 1/2 of drumz.

    Fall > early winter '79 has so many good shows and solid recordings. Release the hounds and release them all! 12/3/79 will always have a special place in my heart as it was my 2nd show, I think its excellent (and it freaking was!) and never understood why it got dog piled like it did by some. Show after show in that time frame is great. Sampled a little of 12/11 and will definitely come back to the 2 nights at Soldiers and Sailors. And they've got to release 12/1 from Pittsburgh soon, right?! Like, that one is overdue!

    So yesterday 4/6 was the 2 year anniversary of Bolo suggesting Pick of the Day. Thank you Bolo24 - this space has been so pleasant and at times flat out necessary to return to day after day. an oasis of cool in some really difficult times. I've heard so much new Dead and rediscovered a whole lot more. a true gift. so yes thank you Bolo and everyone who's been a part of this. and btw little bluecrow was 10 on 4/6/69 :) mIght have to fire up the John Deere for that one also and see what that kid missed!

    Onward good friends!!

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    Man, OB, you know me to well. I would have to say yes to 12/11/79, which is also a birthday show for a good buddy.. I will put in the que for sure. Thanks Big Brownie for the nudge.
    Adedhed68, so much to like about 79, but my favorites ebb and flow and right now it continues to be 11/5. I also think you should add 12/28 to the list. RT3.1.
    Hey I hear you OB, if the sound system is not great, the shows can sound very different.
    I tried a couple different sources of 6/30/84 and the vocals were a little low for my ears.
    Okay back to 79 tomorrow all. And I need to check out the 85 show as well.

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    ……..is an outstanding show.

    There is something special about the Fall of ‘79. For me at least, the greatness starts in Cape Cod on 10/27 and 10/28, and it culminates to this 12/11/79 show.
    New Year’s ‘79 was special too. 12/26/79? Dicks Picks 5. What an epic show

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    Well, as much as I really enjoyed 6/30/84, I liked 4/4/85 better!
    Recording did sound good, though I’m listening on average crap at work, it didn’t sound as bad as some of the other things I’ve been checking out, if that makes sense?

    Who knew Indianapolis was the home to so many good shows? Great first set energy and set list.
    Good Shakedown, six “songs” after Drumz and a Day Job!
    Only drawbacks were JG had some vocal flubs, but played pretty solid.
    Overall tight show!

    85, my naughty mistress! It’s been too long, rrrrrrrrrrrrr! Great pick, not sure I ever heard this one, but you guys weren’t kidding! I remember Doc praising P town, so glad I was able to enjoy it finally and get a lil 85 fix in too.
    Smoking energy, great first set list, although perhaps similar to the above? First She Belongs since 66, so basically first time lol. Only First set version but always a favorite! So wish they would have continued, sigh. Was fortunate to catch 2 outta 10 total, but wish it had been more. That and Believe it Or Not, which kinda had the same vibe for me?
    Dug Miracle as set opener, and JG not messing around sliding right into CF.
    Rest of second nothing out of the ordinary on paper, but from my causal listen working, seemed real energetic, but not manic like mid 80s can sometimes get, well played and JGs voice doesn’t sound too bad. I’ll have to recheck, but my recollection of 4/6 is a good show, but he sounds like he got the “tour” cold?
    Still really dig 4/7! Such a fun show and perhaps my best Easter ever!

    So, guessing DV will be all over that 12/11/79. If so, I’ll try to fit it in, but may start with 4/6/69 as in spite of all the hype I’ve not heard all the AVs?

    It’s Murphy funny that I loaded up a bakers dozen or so shows so I’d have stuff at work since still no Net, so wouldn’t cha know folks are bringing pics outta the woodwork, which is nice lol.

    Yeah Jim I’m waiting on our accountant to finish taxes, especially cause I’m getting whacked hard this year.
    I’m afraid one of these days the crazy workaholic is going to drop dead in his chair working. To him that would be like dying on stage playing, but man, I’ve had enough bad luck lately ; ) “Come on buddy, just another week, you can do it!”
    Onward!

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    There's always mañana.

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    Twas playing on Sirius this morning. Maybe too late to suggest as a POTD, but that mix sure sounded good to these old ears.

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    It's a privilege to pay taxes...................?

    Hey Jim-----

    Times a wastin', hurry up with them taxes!

    Rock on,

    Doc
    The wages of sin are death, but by the time taxes are taken out, it's just sort of a tired feeling........

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    I'm behind too..

    But I am fitting 4/6/69 into the mix. The Flying Burrito Brothers opened, and that recording is on the Archive so we get an added bonus.

    I plan to catch up on missed shows as soon as I finish my taxes...

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    Well I finally hit 4/3/70 and 9/18/90, but with todays pick I’m 3, 4? behind.

    4/3/70 was another sorta short but sweet one. Really dug the unfinished Candyman and all the short versions of even the long songs. Oh yeah, little different version of Katie Mae too.

    9/18/90 I’ll need to give a better listen to sometime, but was another beauty from that transitional tour.
    I’ve been listening to a lot of 91 lately and so it was interesting to hear Bruce and Vinny still trying to figure parts out etc.

    Today perhaps I’ll hit a mid-eighties two for…

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    Hey rockers!!!

    Pick of the day: Avalon Ballroom April 6 1969

    This was one of the first “unofficial” 1969 Dead recordings I ever heard. Even now, decades later, when I hear the radio announcer say “We take you now to the Avalon Ballroom in San Francisco, where the Grateful Dead are performing…….”, I get chills up and down my spine. Can you imagine sitting at home listening to something like this as it was actually happening?

    There’s some chewy grease here, bacon greasy Pigpen material. A wonderful Baby Blue. Fabulous Cryptical/Other 1/Cryptical reprise, blazing rock in places, wonderous psychedelic fluidity in places. Typically dark, moody Death Don’t Have No Mercy, powerful and dark as death itself. And it’s all capped off with the crazy, classic, frantic pulled plug Viola Lee Blues.

    To me, this always seemed like a very different kind of 1969 show. Exceptionally crunchy, no holds barred, nothing held back, very intense, focally ominous, occasionally challenging for the listener. Not all Grateful Dead was sweetness and light…..

    And while I do love 2/28/69 (one of the greatest Dead shows ever), when I’m dead and buried I want a copy of 4/6/69 with me as I transition to the afterlife………………..

    Doc
    We die only once, and for such a long time……

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 17:09

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.