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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Can't say enough good things about those 79 shows, except we need more. Really like those Deer Creek shows. Good to see the series reach 1990.
    The 9/14/74 show, would love to see an official released recording

    No spoiler alerts on the Bills.

    How about 5/16/81, Barton Hall for tomorrow?
    This was the 81 30 Trips show. I haven't listened to this show in maybe four years.

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    So already been there a little bit this morning on the deep nostalgia trail. 1st disc of Will The Circle Be Unbroken earlier and now Disc 2. Way back in the day, late jr high or freshman high school, ca. '73, older brother of a friend turned us on to that brilliant and seminal 3 lp collaborative masterpiece by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. Before the Dead in my music schooling and in its way laying the foundation for that. My introduction to Doc Watson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Vassar Clements, Earl Scruggs, Jimmy Martin, Merle Travis, among others, Opry related name checks of Ernest Tubbs and Jimmy Dickens - "take an old cold tater and wait." and there began my love of the banjo and flat picking. incredible dialog between songs both with the Dirt Band and the old timers "pick the banjer solid john you've pick one for 15 years and between the old timers themselves - we memorized that stuff too. The first meeting of Doc Watson and Merle Travis is an astonishing listen. My god a bunch of long hairs getting Roy Acoff into the studio??!! So the Dead were already plowing this ground in their way, I wasn't quite there yet. But I think for a lot of us young uns in my approximate generation this was a seminal release. Many many years later I played this for my Old Man and he told me that this was the music of his child hood. Blue collar Indianapolis 1 generation out of Kentucky going back to soldiers on the Union side and earlier. He liked it so much I got him a copy and we would spin it from time to time. Anniversary of his passing a few days ago. There are songs on that album that will always be a part of my life in both happiness and grief.

    So in between that I've sandwiched the Discs 1 and 2 of 11/11/73. Beautiful day here.
    Take care. Be Kind. Be safe. Have fun!!

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    Yeah, I think I pulled a muscle listening lol.

    Sounds like an awesome day Jim, I used to really love skiing with a Walkman on BITD (except when I rode nothing but bumps and the damn thing would click off all the time )
    The music really seems to flow when your in motion, especially in fast or adrenaline like situations.

    Hit 9/14/74 yesterday. Another fine 74 show. Need to hit this Europe run in full some time as I’ve only heard 8/18 Boxilla and the Dicks 7 cut ups. Always heard they were too coked up etc and these shows weren’t that great?
    Sounds like an over generalization. This show has a couple misses, but overall is the quality you’d expect from 74.
    There’s no big Playing, or jams per say, but they jam just fine within certain songs. Stand alone Eyes is great, can’t get enough of these 74 Eyes! Weather Report and most of other usual suspects, with a grand jam outta Truckin’ that I swear I heard Phil tease Slipknot briefly, but no takers?
    The sound was great, most of the time. I almost gave up initially but then suddenly it splices with nice SB. There are several patches but even the Aud source seems to get better as she goes.
    Another one of those off piste shows I might not have gotten to soon, good pick, thanks BC!

    Today I’ll hopefully hit the second night of Deer Creek 90, but then I need a rest lol (and the other half wants more Xmass music).

    I have to see what I’m doing this week, but I have a bunch of suggestions written down if no one has anything pressing they want to get at.
    GO VIKS! I’m about to give up on Da Bills as I think their going down today and thus for the season, but we don’t watch until tonight so no spoilers!

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    Don't overexert yourself, OB.. we are not spring chickens. I'm always a day late and a dollar short (shorts).. but a steady pace wins the race. I'm planning a revisit of the box incl. 12/9 and 12/10 as soon as I can get to it.. I did finish the first Deer Creek show. Man.. that Terrapin is strong, crank it up. Then a wonderful The Other One with some tasty Bobby histrionics and well-done Healy distortion into a mind pleasing Morning Dew and a nice take a load off encore of The Weight. I was really in the mood for high octane GD, the '90 Deer Creek shows are real good GD.

    Nature brought springtime warm weather here in the mid-atlantic yesterday and if you don't mind 50 mph winds, it was a nice day so I hit the water and grabbed my dry top and red digital device and which started with a tantalizing version of Weather Report Suite. I never know what's on these devices, I seem to change things up in the Spring and with six in constant rotation it's a crapshoot what comes out the other end. Anyway.. after a few minutes it became apparent it was 9/8/73 Nassau, Dave's Picks 38. Man.. Jerry's playing during Let It Grow is absolutely flawless. Moments like this is why I listen to GD, there's not a better band in the land.

    As you were.. time for some Sunday bluegrass.

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    He SCORRRRRRREEEEESSSSSS!
    Dats right ladies and germs, we got us one of those DHB HTs! Boo-yah.
    Well, full disclosure, I’m only into 7/18/90 Terrapin, but unless there’s a power outage or something beyond our control, it’s happening! Lol
    So hit the one two solar plex punch of 12/9&10/71 between rounds of shoveling. First day shoveling, winter came with a vengeance. Shoveled twice in one day, going to bed early tonight lol.

    Yes 12/9 is short but it’s like their making up for being late with a sense of purpose and urgency that is sustained until the out of time end! Phew! Smoking!
    Now 12/10 is a fine show, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve yet to feel the lightning that y’all do? Meaning, 71 is such a consistent freight train year that has only built up to these December shows, that 12/10 doesn’t stand out so much. That’s more a statement to how consistent and good most of these shows are more than anything singularly with 12/10, imho anyway. Meaning it’s yet another 71 hottie!
    I’ll tell ya what, everyday I dig these awesome first set Black Pedro’s more and more! And these still forming Comes a Time etc. Yep Doc, ya did a good job recruiting lol.
    I’m really looking forward to 12/15 and 12/31 as I’ve not heard those.

    Yeah BC I hadn’t heard those 79s before (kinda my mo lately) but they looked kinda interesting and first Tiger show etc, so why the hell not eh!
    Glad folks been digging the 79 and 80 shows. DVs right, WTF David, 79-81!
    Pretty sure ole Hendrix freak was at the RR and Denver 79 shows, but I don’t think he hangs here? I’m sure he’d have some stories! Gonna get the 14th in soon too.
    I’m confused, I have 8/19/80 on the list, and that’s what deadbase has for the first Rooster since 65 and that China-Ruder etc. guessing you just mixed em as you said 8/20, OR was that a Vulcan mind trick to get us to check out the whole run ; ) But yep, that’s on the list and we’ll slip that in soon.

    Fall 74: another field that needs reaping! I’ve never heard most of these so going to try and fit those in going forward.
    Going to try that usbourne matrix out mañana, prolly along with 7/19/90 to scratch that itch.
    Of course Jimbo, you evil temptress has to mention Nightfall, one of my all time favorite official releases that doesn’t seem to get the love on deadnet?
    Don’t think I knew there was bloobtoob, though it makes sense. Dammit, I don’t have time for that lol.
    Well if a Dave ever releases the damn fall 89 multis, I’ll prolly try to hit the whole tour again only maybe I’ll go all toob?
    What’d I miss?
    Oh yeah, The Wolf. Yeah BC I’ve got a double CD of Moanin’ in the Moonlight and Howlin’ Wolf that I came to via tge dead of course, that I used to play the hell out of. Been a long time, guess I’m due!

    Awright, digging the 60’ Bullfrog Garcia’s laying down in this 7/18/90 space. Good sheet Mon!
    Ok, time for a smoke and a pancake!
    Onward Amigos!
    This space has been nice of late!

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    Streaming Nightfall of Diamonds on BlewTube. Great audio, great video. Technology is grand.

    Tomorrow.. back to the program.

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    You are right Oroborous, really digging this one. How about the Shakedown opener? My god, can't imagine being in the crowd for that start. Sound quality is really good so far.
    I will continue to beat the drum for Dave to release some more 79-81. It is time. Shock us.

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    yeah - get a move on you slackers!! (glances at mirror)

    Yep I very def like that Usbourne for 9/14/74. while I only stumbled upon it earlier this year in that searching mode inspired by POTD, I think that show sure seems to have been overlooked given the Alexander Palace and Dijon/Paris shows on either side. Some very-solid-played '74 - very much, always, welcome. the audience tape brings some nice you-are-there-in-the-hall flavor that I, who likes to time travel every so often, enjoys.

    those Summer '79 shows from Oakland are new to me & look fat. I saw that Shakedown 1st night and then that Olin Arageed(!!) night 2 and "both on the damn list!!"

    After I realized I was able to conflate several Porchester '71 shows I went back to 2/18 (from Mama Tried on - those early versions always send me, that, and Bobby McGee.) I can't even "imagine" what might have happened being there (Strider?), dialed in, "all bright-eyed-and-bushy-tailed," in the presence of that Dark Star > (the first ever) Wharf Rat(!!)> (DS) Beautiful Jam > Dark Star > Me and My Uncle. and 2/19. yep, totally rocking, not the night before, but still straight "short break, short break" delivering.

    Smokestack - have an old somewhat obscure early Howling Wolf Chess double LP that was just to the brim with absolutely amazing music. one of those two-fers that had a huge influence on my listening in those days. might have to hook up the turntable (an old Techinics that has lost its laser calibration - need a new rig.) Not only does Pig bring real justice to Smokestack, but so does Bob. I think Bob brought a lot to his blues covers that strikes me as right there. Remember first hearing an audience of Riverbend '85 (30 Trips!) and (having been at Alpine immediately before that) thinking goddamn! bring it! for me just one of many cool parts of Eugene 8/21/93 was Schoolgirl into Smokestack. (Aside - Standing on the Moon from that show is all time greatest.) Yeah School Girl > Smokestack kicked ass. So yeah I think Bob bitd sang a great Little Red Rooster. And back to my list - 8/20/80, Uptown. Theatre, Chicago. Bob, beginning Set II, breaks out the first Rooster, yep, in Chicago, home to Chess records and all that, nails it, and the band immediately segues into a classic from-the-era China > Rider. my original source was an audience, I think balcony tape(?). crowd goes crazy. estimated > eyes. out of drums into playing > comes a time > playing. there is no good soundboard circulating right now. if in the vault it should def be released.

    found myself with an unexpected somewhat free Friday. rain here and snow in the mountains last night! enjoy the weekend and stay safe friends. onward!!

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    Okay, 79, 90 and 74. Did somebody say Desolation Row? I am in.

    You guys are keeping us busy.

    I think we should get the Dave's 42 announcement within the next two weeks. Maybe next week.

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    Maybe we should add this one this WE?
    Bluecrow suggested a usborne matrix that he really liked?
    Another I’ve not heard so I think I might slide this one in this WE?

    So;
    8/12/79
    12/9&10/71
    Daves 40, and
    9/14/74
    Hup, hup, better get to it

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

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I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

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God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.