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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1241
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    I tend to play this - and the companion Dicks Picks 30 with the 25th and 28th featured - every year as a prelude to starting off on the European tour. But these shows are great in their own right. The first shows of 1972 after New Years Eve ( that I have) and so usually they are the first 1972 shows I play each year. And they sound so refreshing and energetic - whatever I have been playing before hand, this always sounds like what I have been waiting for.

    The 2nd disc is the center piece, but the first set is top notch too. Extra variety for this line up with the additions of Pigpen, which introduces a level of blues and soul that they never recaptured. With Keith on board, anything seems possible. Amazing how "The Other One" was such a powerhouse in earlier years and got reinvented so successfully as at these shows. Jazz rock as literally no one else played it.
    Each musician sounds at the top of their game too. You can listen to the whole and zero in and out on any musician and hear something of interest - but I tend to notice Bob Weir more on these dates than is usually the case.
    All this...and Europe 72 to follow.

    Cheers folks !

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    I don't think this release gets a lot of play at my house, but it should. That Good Lovin, Truckin -Drums-Other One-Me and My Uncle-Other One into Wharf Rat is a wild ride of Dead nirvana. Man, so good and nice Sugar Mag, The Stranger, NFA, GDTRFB, NFA. Good call Daverock.

    And then there is the bonus disc, great stuff First Show.
    Definitely an underrated release.

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    I failed the assignment but did the bonus disc.
    No extra credit for you the teacher says.
    Uh, the dog ate my homework. Yeah, that's it!
    First impressions were that the band was (high)ly motivated as they often are by the NY crowds. Right off the bat Jerry having difficulties with the Bertha lyrics. Great mix with everyone being heard. I do love Phil but his singing was often off key. Based on frequent comments and opinions no one, including me before this, seems as bothered by this as they are by DG's occasional lapses in that department. But Donna never bothers me either really. She's a bonus no matter what. No biggie, just sayin'. And it has a Cumberland!
    Second half from six days earlier is good solid '72. Love Bob's reversal of "one of your favorites and we certainly hope it's one of ours" intro to Truckin'. Short listen, short review. Had a busy Wednesday.
    Trying to get to my second listen of London 5-26-72 today and this was a great warm up. Thanks Daverock.
    Cheers

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    A Daverock Pick!

    Alright Daverock, Dave's #14 it is. I will include the bonus disc for extra credit.

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    I had Animals on CD, then bought it on vinyl.
    I recently bought the 2022 issue of the 2018 remix on Blu-ray audio. The 2018 remix sounds great. Of the 6 different audio versions on the Blu-ray I like the uncompressed 24/196 stereo 2018 remix the best.

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    More vinyl - but no more music

    Although there has been more shows released on vinyl in the last 12 months or so, the downside is that they have all already been released on cd several years earlier. Some of them in limited edition formats, granted. It can be seen in two ways - great for vinyl lovers, but on the other hand, also an exercise in getting people to buy the same music twice.
    Mind you, that happens with new digitally remastered cds all the time too. And with all bands, too, not just The Dead. If you are over a certain age, and like one band a lot, the chances are that you will have bought their signature albums many times over.

    While I am on here, maybe I should say that my POTD has been Dave's 14 - 3/26/72 at The Academy Of Music N.Y. And great stuff it is too - a new band really coming into focus with lineup, songs, equipment, sound and style all fresh as a spring day.

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    Nice work OB!

    I will check out 3/31/73 on Thursday.

    Listened to the upgraded second half of 3/30/73. Above average sound quality.
    These China Riders always deliver. I can't remember too many Truckin into Eyes, both good versions here. Eyes is still in progress. NFA, GDTRFB and close it out with OMSN. Enjoyable, thanks!

    Interesting they are churning out more vinyl. Great for the vinyl buyers out there. I am not one of them. How about some more shows released on CD?

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    DHB, Weeee!

    3/31/73: boo yah, this bad boy perhaps hangs with tour tops.
    Dick talks about this one in his 73 notes…basically “the jams” and he ain’t wrong!
    Proper!
    2/23/70: lol think I might of done this one but not marked that I had, though I marked it as a Doc POTD.
    Anywho, great part of losing your mind: you can enjoy things again like it’s the first time ; )

    9/18/83: I went with a great sounding aud, recorded by Jim Vita, delivered be Monsignor Miller on 2/24/23.
    I’m going to have to keep an eye out for Mr Vita…
    Not top shelf show, but another solid, enjoyable outing by the boys that provided a nice energy change up to complete the DHB!

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    Hmmm, thought I did 2/23/70?
    Well, I’m onto 3/31/73 at the moment, so I’ll have to check the above out later…

    3/30/73 was a mixed bag. 1st set pretty 73 status quo, but unfortunately the recording wasn’t very good.
    Second set (Eaton/Miller) sounded much better, and like the spring shows we’ve checked out the second set brings the goods! Besides the awesome Truckin jams, Eyes etc, these GSET have been smoking on this tour.
    Not a bad show, but perhaps not top shelf.
    EDIT: day late and a dollar short…looks like upgraded version mislabeled as 9/30/73.

    This 3/31 sounds better and exhibiting nice energy from the start! (So far).

    3/27/93: enjoyed. Not a bad show. Long/short I had sorta wrote 93 off, but I’ve heard about a half dozen now that have all been good, if not top shelf, which is fine. Hey, they all can’t be “the best”!
    I got the Boxilla music only addition in 2018 in the midst of a shit storm I’ll never forget. I did manage to get it all ripped, but still haven’t heard them all, most, but not all. This show was one of them, so it was nice to finally check it out. Nice Bucket Bertha open, but Same Thing kinda brings it down for me. Never really liked this song no matter who did it, I guess I like the Bands version off of Jericho, and I guess it was a needed change from some of the blues tunes Bob beat to death! Really fast PEGGY O. Ons that plod too much aren’t great, but too fast doesn’t seem to work for this song? Good Jane, like Broken Arrow, but Phil’s trying to hard: I’ve heard better for sure. Fun Lucy, but as someone posted recently elsewhere, it’s like a different song. I don’t mind, and it’s a good version. Decent Cassidy followed by the last Casey Jones, which reminds me, what happened to Casey Janes? Love the tie dye bra, thanks again!
    CJ not a burner, but fun surprise none the less.
    Second set highlights include an Eyes opener, nice Days Between, OMSN closer, IFTL, which i used to think was a tad short and cheesy for a “real” encore, but years later it’s kinda fun. Jer sounds like he’s having a good show and the pinnacle has to be the Sweet Comes A Time which shows he could still bring it on occasion!
    Don’t know the year well or well enough to really compare but would say I liked this one but perhaps not as much as the excellent show from 3/17/93, or 3/24/93 which was a nice VGUY POTD, but better than 9/13/93, which of course is on Dave’s list lol. Buckeye and Boo fah fa low are decent, and I remember thinking the RT from Cal X was a nice surprise. So like most years, there’s always something, just gotta poke around!

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    Wowza- A beautiful, "gentle respite in the oasis of Austin" to quote Rockthing from a few pages back. Another acoustic set jewel from early '70. very very sweet. that Me and My Uncle reminds me of Other Ones 8/29/2000 Fiddlers Green when Bobby brought out the acoustic for MAMU (> Ripple) and I really really dug it and thought wow that's the energy and sound forMAMU that was missing all those years. LIttle Sadie, Black Peter, Seasons of the Heart, Uncle Johns. Love it.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.