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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5761
    The Good Ole G…
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    Good stuff You All!
    Dig the stories.

    1986 - Shows you what a state we're in that '86 seems like the good ole days. But man, they do!
    We are on the same trajectory on our Dead show paths DV, I saw my first show 4 days after you saw yours at the ripe old age of 16. Good times ensued and a lifetime of adventure began.

    Not sure where I found that Dylan & TP set, but lmk if you have trouble locating it. It's worth a listen or two. I've been enjoying it since I found it earlier this month. Tom Petty definitely brings it and Dylan seems interested. The back up singers are wonderful too. I posted about this randomly on 9/3 after I got it. But based on what I was hearing the GD kinda got upstaged that day.

    FWIW the sound at Akron Rubber Bowl a few days later sucked as well, and you can hear it on the audience tapes, the vocals get muddy in the mix due to too much reverb or something. But I enjoy those opening sets with Dylan & TP, man he was good in concert. I love his take on So You Want To Be A Rock N' Roll Star.

    And boy do I remember the feeling of thinking Jerry's not doing well so I gotta go see these guys and then a few days after my second show he was in that coma and nearly died. We were all so lucky and excited when he pulled through and got to continue some more good times!

    Speaking of Death. I'm sure it's been discussed, but the odd coincidence that Jerry broke out Visions of Johanna in '86 shortly before he went into a coma and nearly died, and then didn't play it again with the band until '95 shortly before he died seems striking. Weird GD stuff going on there. Insert Twilight Zone theme by GD circa 1985.

    So all this talk of '86 & '95 got me listening to 3/19/86 today. Now I know '86 has a bad reputation. And rightly so in some cases, but listen to this show. The China Cat > Rider absolutely smokes and you can hear that Hampton roar and energy. If it doesn't give you a smile, well I can't help you. Set 1 SBD is out there, and this Set 2 Audience is a nice recording:
    https://archive.org/details/gd1986-03-19.senn.441.me80.buyers.118517.fl…

    And for '95, Bluecrow & ConeKid I checked out 7/8/95 Space > TOO > Visions > OMSN and US Blues yesterday while riding to the library. Dug it, the Space starts out really cool with some far out panning. And the reading of Visions is... well I'm not sure I have the words, but heartfelt, aching, bittersweet and wonderful would all apply.

    Seattle '95 - I've got that run, have you listened to the Soundcheck dated 5/24/95? Jerry "...it sounds nice up here in Seattle" :)
    Somebody was talking about this yesterday, but based on the Tapes we have, the Vault closed down quite a bit with Healy's departure. So a lot of the '95 SBDs never saw the light of day. I have my suspicions, most of them never will.
    Happy to be wrong. But... not a lot of progress on that front in the last 25 years.
    I'll try and get that SBD portion in and 5/26 is grabbing my eye. Personally I like '94-'95 just because I've only heard most of it once and a lot of that was in a fever dream of collecting it.

    So much great music to hear, one life time.

    We sit here stranded, though we're all doin' our best to deny it

    Thanks for sharing You All!
    Keeping me entertained and I appreciate it.

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    No stories to tell, I didn’t even remember the set list except that I got a Visions. Looked up the set list, and it looks decent on paper.....
    I have the recording, which I haven’t listened to in quite a while, probably because the overall show was weak.

    On 7-9 my friend and I had the feeling that it was going to be the last show until 96, when a hopefully recovered and rejuvenated Jerry would return. But then fall tour mail order was announced, and it didn’t look like Jerry was going to get to take a break and rest for a while.....

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    “To Lay Me Down”, reflective song, conjures autumn. Powerful lyrics. The tone of Jerry’s acoustic guitar is so sweet. Interesting that 1970 and 1980 were the banner years for acoustic Dead. About the only years. Of course I was lucky to see several 1970 Dead shows with acoustic sets. I missed 1980 altogether. The few December 1981 Dead shows I saw with acoustic sets backing Joan Baez may or may not count. Last night while listening to the Warfield set I thought about where I was 40 years ago caretaking a ranch just south of Glacier National Park, living in an old homesteaders cabin. Living the dream. “All lost in dreaming”. “Cowboys Dream”. By Lon Megargee 1936.
    Question? Where have many of the participants on these boards gone? Most notably the women. AnnaRx, Gypsy Cowgirl, Dina W, even would be great to hear from MaryE again. Would love to see a book from Betty Cantor. I love the book from Rosie McGee. Would love to see a book from Carolyn Adams aka MG.
    I also feel a strong desire to pay more attention to Pick of the Week and the Tapers Section. Also Grateful Dead Hour from David Gans is a treasure trove of archives and knowledge.
    And a message to any hotshot publishers out there, Ken Babbs is a living national treasure. Out of respect for this “Intrepid Traveler “ who was there, would Penguin or Viking or even City Lights publish the mans book. First hand history, not second or third accounts.
    Meanwhile, in the high country, “last leaves are falling”.

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    https://youtu.be/92syshlVsp0

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1995-05-24.partial.sbd.larson.35181.sbeok…

    GOGD - first 5 songs on this link, Iko through Estimated, are pre Drumz 1st night. The Trucking>Terrapin are from Cal Expo May 1991 (by coincidence my only Cal Expo run - excellent also, and there's a Spanish Jam tease in there.)

    Show was GA and I was on the rail DFC. Sound was awesome. Band was happy, Jerry was happy, he had a bounce in his step - really! Chicago '95 was like a whole different scene.

    I Want To Tell was a crazy amazing surprise cover.

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    GOGD, I have never heard that SBD, I will for sure check it out.
    I was 15 when I went to this show and was really green. I got into the Dead the year before when my older sister left for college and left behind two cassettes, Shakedown Street and a tape labeled 12/30/83. Needless to say I was blown away and was hooked.
    The acoustics of the dome were not great and I remember the sound not being the best. I think at the time, we knew that Jerry was not doing the best and the end could come at anytime. We were just psyched to get a change to see the band. Looking back I think the play was a little sloppy, but we didn't know that at the time. I remember Dylan not sounding that great, but at the time I really didn't listen to much Dylan. That changed as I got older. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers seemed to deliver that night.

    Two days later we headed down to Apline and that was a completely different experience. Alpine in 86 was so different from 87 or 88, or the last run in 89.

    First of all, there were not nearly as many people at these shows in 1986. You could move around in the lawn without a problem. The music was great and the sound quality out there was really good.

    It was really hippie central and we were so young and clueless. It was like nothing I had ever seen and I loved it. Two week later Jerry was in a comma.
    We thought that was it. Can you imagine if the Dead ended in 1986? Hard to imagine...
    Then he recovered and 87 was wild. Couldn't believe how many more people went to the shows at Alpine. Of course In The Dark.

    Yes, I went to all the shows, I think, the Dead performed in MN and WI from 86-89. Unbelievable times and memories. Could never figure out why they never came back to MN and WI??

    Who knows GOGD, maybe we crossed paths at Alpine??

    Be well all.

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    DV: That Dylan & TP set from 6/26/86 is really good, have you checked it out? There's a good SBD, listened to it pretty recent and really dug it. Must've been an interesting experience seeing the GD open a show and play one long set?
    Curious what you thought about it.
    And yeah that worm must've turned, you went to all the Alpine Shows after that huh?
    Far Out.

    BlueCrow: Nice call on the 7/8/95 Visions of Johanna, man Jerry could convey emotion through music.
    You & Conekid got stories from that show?

    Speaking of Visions of Johanna that studio version on the All Good Things Outtakes.. that's worth seeking out / relistening.
    Gonnna give 3/19/86 Visions a spin today.

    Still working on 9/26/80 got distracted, great Acoustic set & fun Set 1.

    Be Well All

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    the worm was known to turn at Alpine. wasn't able to see any '86 shows. friends came back from Hampton that spring all jazzed up. first Visions was there and I checked it out yesterday after the one from 7/8. looking at the set list and its crazy that it showed up in the 1st set! those summer shows with Dylan and Tom Petty struck me as a cool line up but don't really know much about them. To my regret never saw Tom perform.

    Enjoy the rest of the weekend everyone.

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    Bluecrow, my first show was Dylan, the Dead and Tom Petty, June 26, 1986 at the old Metrodome. Not the best place to see a show, but the worm definitely turned for me a few days later in Alpine.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.