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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • The Good Ole G…
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    Hi-Ya Kids!

    Not to keep flogging the same horse, but since there's not a pick slated for today and I've been digging into the stories around November 1972, I thought I'd share the following notes from Dick Latvala on 11/22/72 and see if anybody wants to listen to it today?

    Here's what Dick was saying about it on 9/7/97 at 12:28am (he was probably really baked, but that's impressive because he still writes really well!)
    The 2nd set jam from 11/22-Austin, is tremendous.
    It goes like this: "He's Gone->Truckin->jam->drum solo->The Other One->jam->bass solo->The Other One->Stella Blue".
    This version of "He's Gone" is one of the top 10 attempts ever. It is long and drawn out, and there is a nice long space before "Truckin", that consists of pleasing variations on the "He's Gone" theme.
    This version of "Truckin" is exceptional in that it has a lengthy section at the end that relentlessly builds and builds till there seems to be no recourse but "The Other One". Instead, they opt for a "drum solo", which comes to a complete stop, and then Phil takes over and off we go into a long and treat-filled exploration of "The Other One" (The first verses don't start until after about 30 min.)
    There are more highlights to this show. The versions of "Black-throated Wind", "China Cat->Rider", "Bird Song", "Playing in the Band", "Greatest Story", "Big River", "Ramble on Rose", "Sugar Magnolia", and "Saturday Night" each are notable and help define what an exciting show we have here.

    I know this will be a surprise, but.. he's right you know!?!
    It's an awesome show, and I think I'm going to listen to it again today.

    Also, since this is long already and most have skip past it now, I'll keep going because...
    I found some other cool stuff in relation to this November run of shows that I hadn't put together yet.

    I was reading Parish's book last night and got to the chapter where he talks about wrecking the GD Truck driving between shows in Wichita and Texas late '72 and I thought to myself... self he's talking about those shows you've been tripping out on! And sure enough, he is. Steve and Sparky got into an accident hauling the gear between that 11/17/72 Wichita show and the 11/18/72 Hofheinz shows.

    A news clipping about the 11/18 show states “The show started three hours late because one of the trucks carrying the band’s equipment overturned ‘on the only bend in the straight highway between here and Wichita Falls’.”

    The Allman Brothers Band were supposed to play as well, but cancelled after the death of bass player Berry Oakley on 11/13.

    Trippy serendipitous connections there.

    Anyhow, to further drive my current hypothesis that the November '72 Playing In The Band jams are the most killer I've listened to all week and possibly ever.
    Here's what Dick said in 1997 -
    The last 5 shows in Texas, are each worth getting. The quality is not
    so hot, but the playing is ferocious. On 11/18, in Houston, there is a
    major, top 10 of all-time, version of "Playing in the Band". (I am
    starting to think that this period has possibly the most intense versions
    ever for this defining piece of music.)
    LATVALA!

    Good stuff.

    Enjoyed 11/21/73 yesterday, and am not surprised at all by how great it is.

    And finally, yesterday's DOTD was not from Uniondale, NY and I guessed the date right :)

    Alright, be well all, enjoy some tunes and if you read all this and desire, follow your bliss, head on over to 11/22/72.

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    I went down the Garcia Sanders Band rabbit hole.

    '73 Lions Share. That My Funny Valentine hit the spot.

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    Funny I woke up this AM wondering what tune we'd get today for 30 DOTD and thinking I might actually get 30 for 30 this year, something I've kinda wanted to do, but also something I wasn't opposed to not doing, because that would mean we'd get something unknown.

    Well.. today's pick is a bit of the unknown.
    Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.
    Or in this case... guess, guess, guess.

    Interesting little outtake. Location I'm guessing isn't listed and the Date is a speculation.
    Dang Dave.. You Got Me!

    Man, it must be kinda fun picking these out. Looking at last year we got a few unknown bits and the streak was broken early on the 9th day with an uncirculated studio outtake.

    I guess 20 for 20 ain't bad.

    BTW: After yet another far out voyage through 11/20/78, I had to go back and check out more November '72. Is this the best month for Playing In The Band? Sick sick stuff. 11/12/72 is a great show, sad the recording is jacked, but man what a smoker. The PITB on 11/13 is sooo good too, and Bear's Audience tape is incredible for '73. 11/14 is a really good show, but surrounded by Giants. And 11/22! Gotta hear it.

    Alright, I'll tell you what's going on here.
    Lay it on me.
    I'm stalling... I don't want to break my streak.

    "Steppin' free she places her feet where they fell before" - Bob Weir (Studio Demo of Weather Report Suite)

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    Cleveland Music Hall 11.20.78....

    ....this is the way.

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    I can hear Bob on Shakedown and World to Give... So i have been listening to 5/21/71 Garcia and Saunders new CD... I love The Wall Song!!!! Any other versions out there that I should hear.... Can't believe I've never heard him do this song before.. It is so good!!

    P.S. Heading over to Denver Coliseum 11/20/73

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    Vinyl only so far, 27th and 28th.

    The thing is, they have been Plangentized and remastered.

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    I bought two copies when it came out in 2005, one for me and one for my brother. I hope they release it so everybody who wants it can have it.. If I didn't have it I would drop $1000. 00 dollars for an unopened copy with the bonus disc, I think it's that good.

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    Wasn't it like $99 and you get the bonus disc or something?

    Imagine, $85 free shipping and you get the bonus disc. Now that would be a thanksgiving to remember. ...or how about that jaw dropping asking price of $450 for the E72 trunk? So that would be $382.50. If we could only be king for a day....

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    You got me Jim, I had to look.

  • JimInMD
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    Cool. I finally got that Fillmore West 69 Box Set I have been putting off, and at 15% off to boot.

    Happy day.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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I am there, DARK STAR

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.