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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • bluecrow
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    9/26/81 - all in!!

    glancing at set list night before that and there's something I've never seen - a Sugar Mag / Sunshine Daydream sandwich post drums. '80 and '81 are filled with great shows and it would have helped if Betty had been at the helm recording a whole bunch of them on reels (cue picky deadhead comment).

    DeadVikes - trust me the Midwest is still the land of my childhood heart. I know you're back there but was thinking you were somewhere a bit north of Chi-Town?

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    Hey Oroborous, 9/26/81 sounds great to me. A little Buffalo NY and your first show.
    Had a chance to listen to the 3/20/81 London show. Wish there was a better sounding recording available. I seem to remember Blair Jackson talking about how great these shows were and what a bummer it was that there was not better recordings available.

    Hey Bluecrow, you got to see Dead and Co. Sounds like fun man. I need to check out your 80 recommendation. Oh and remember some of us live in the Midwest.

    Stay well out there.

  • Oroborous
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    more of the same...

    3/21/81✔️ More of the same, in a good way, just nothing extraordinary, that stands out during these shows so far?
    9/26/91✔️ This one goes both ways...it has some of the consistency of the tour, but this night, has somewhat out of the ordinary stand outs. Big shhhhooooeee, (think Ed Sullivan) on paper at least.
    I feel the same about some of these versions, as perhaps other post re-entry versions: there not the best performances of the songs you’ve ever heard, but so what, overall, there enjoyable, invoke the spirit of the music, have good jams, space, etc, and when tied all together in a nice container like this show, said container should be pasteurized and served cold to a thirsty public!
    Not unlike other official releases, this wouldn’t perhaps be the most polished show from the neighborhood, but to me, the bigness makes up for it. What can I say, I’m a Dark Star junkie and sucker for any attempt to tapback into the timeless reflection of matter...and hey, it’s got a Cumberland!

    BC: 80 shows noted for future mining...but first, perhaps one last indulgence:

    9/26/81 for mañana, mucho por favor...
    Besides being my 40th anniversary of this show, it’s shown up over the years on tapers section and GD channel etc, and I believe Dave has specifically mentioned it before, so since we’ve been enjoying some 81 lately I’d hoped y’all indulge an old freak uno mass?

  • icecrmcnkd
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    September 91 just keeps on giving.

    For those who do torrents I noticed (and then acquired) that several remastered September 91’s had been posted recently.
    I haven’t checked them out yet to see what improvements had been made, but I did notice a few days ago that my copy of 9/22 has a several second long gap of silence between Drums and Space. I was going to edit that out but maybe I won’t have to if a remastered version is available.

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    speaking of weather shows - this is a pretty good one from back in the early Brent years
    8-16-1980 Mississippi River Festival, Edwardsville, Illinois
    I think i remember reading one of those random reviews in Deadbase. managed to miss the Uptown run a few days later but caught Alpine right after that. Second set 1st night at Uptown is insanely good.

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    Yep Oro - I was in the neighborhood! Needed a 2 hour mind and body recharge and hoping I wouldn't get rousted. Saw a few snowflakes at Loveland and Vail. The live fix was a big deal after the last couple years. brother(s) - "as your attorney I recommend you see a show." more below.

    Jim - The Weirwolf - yeah I think its pretty f*ckin funny. I didn't see any Shakedown near Wrigley. Remarkably little vending. after that magnificent second night curving back around front of the stadium on way "home" and there's a lone(ly) Head holding up a sticker that reads - God Bless the Weirwolf. I think "that's pretty good!" and also notice that no one really seems to see him. It was odd - he's holding these stickers just above his forehead, silent, and its like he's invisible as the crowd flows around him. I wasn't really in acquisition mode and got about a hundred ft past before I turned to my brother and said I gotta go back and get that (1 for $3, 2 for $5 - picked up 2). The seller sincere - "Thanks Brother" as Bobby the Weirwolf was blessed and reaffirmed. A small momento of those nights which I'll remember forever. Bobby looks wild nowadays. His singing on Days Between was like a possessed Spirit. Archetypal. A freaking Weirwolf for sure howling out visions and prophecies.

    Rain first night was one of those added dimensions that doesn't phase me nowadays. Of course tickets were covered, high in the Upper Deck just past 3rd base so we weren't getting cleared off the field (not once but twice.) But yes, I can dig some weather. By end of delayed and abbreviated first set we were hanging in upper aisle with room to dance and just checking out the parade of China Cats - so cool to see all these happy people. D&Co with Weirwolf singing opened second set with a very slow groove, funky Dancing in the Streets, nothing like any version I've heard elsewhere. Really really dug it. "Dancing in Chicago" Segued into a nice always welcome Playing, then Scarlet. Mickey on the BEAM was awesome - the whole stadium in rumble-vibrate cobalt-light phase. I love that shit. Special shout out to NY Tim and crew from that 1st night. God it was fun.

    althea > uncle john's > he's gone to open second night. really? yes! and that second set night 2 had a fine fine groove all through. sweet sweet sound and all jammed out. Milestones was crazy - i was dancing so hard to that. It seemed like something was afoot between Chimenti and Mayer during space before they got to THAT. and the H>S>F to close was out of this world - all of it - wild how "Roll Away . . . " carried through the stadium.

    So yeah Oro - getting to experience all of that live was very cool and very necessary .

    I saw a few post-Jerry shows from '96 - '05, all in the Front Range, a fair number at Red Rocks that most awesome of venues. Totally forgot until this evening that the first was a Merle Saunders show in a tiny club in Colorado Springs. Awesome time - my first Dark Star! But it was a Further event at Fiddler's Green in '97(?), including sets by Mystery Box and Rusted Root, that really brought me around to the fact that Jerry was and is still with us. With all those shows it wasn't simply "nostalgia" - there was always new music being played. The first P&F show at Red Rocks July 2001 (7/6) "floored" me (check out the set list for that show and second night). When they dropped into Blues for Allah I looked at my friend with one of those wide-eyed big smile yhgtbfkm looks of pure joy. dream and myth. Really dug what Warren Haynes brought always. And Jimmy Herring. John Molo. Ryan Adams in the guest slot with Phil 2002(?). Mayer and Oteil and Chimenti. Every one of the music makers.

    So yeah - my thought is someday maybe "we" can all enjoy a few beers together. Even a show or 2.

    Which reminds me - where in the heck is GOGD?

    Take care friends. Enjoy the evening and the weekend.

    Under Eternity

    onward :)

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    It’s like a rainbow

    All kinds of colors to address today.

    BLUCROW: glad you were able to get a live fix! Couldn’t believe how much of a soul hole got filled with P&F last week and that was just streaming, I can only imagine how great it would of been live...
    You talking “our” Eagle? If I’d known I’d have bought you breakfast! Lol, but I’m sure it was an unplanned stop...

    JIM: yass I’ve been fortunate to see ? (Perhaps more than Dead?) many post JG shows by TOO, Mickey, The Dead, P&F, D&C, Furthur etc, I don’t understand why some folks dislike it so much? Too each their own, one one gathers.....

    VGUY: bet 10/27 was a powerful show to be at! Looks like ole Strider was there too.
    Any comments on the other three shows from this run, as I’d like to tag those next week?
    I enjoyed this show, good energy, it’s yet another solid, well played 91. Only miss I recall was in Cassidy...great guests with extracurricular highlights take it up a notch. Must of been fun to be at!

    3/20/81✔️ Fuck this sucks having to do all this over again, ahem, but I digress..
    Hit this first thing today.
    Good solid show, perhaps not the barn burners of May 81, but good show. First perhaps a tad laid back, perhaps keeping things tight and right for the first return to the continent in seven years?
    Nice rainbow mix of songs to present to the crowd, many perhaps seeing the band for the first time?

    Second set picks it up with some good energy. Slight transitional hiccup from S-F, but overall a well played show.
    By Truckin’ their starting to feel their oats and bring it all home with a classic R&R ending!

    Okay, forgot what else I tried to post?...on to Dicks 17 9/26/91 as I need some higher fidelity R&R for FAC!
    Relative new comer to my collection, but I recall being pleasantly surprised when I first heard, so looking forward.

    Hoping to hit 3/21/81 and 9/26/91 mañana...really looking forward to 9/26 as it has a sexy set list and was on that early wish list of Dave’s...

    Sunday, I have a special request I think you’ll like?

    But, hup, hup, bavpck on the crazy train, I got shows to tag!
    Happy Friday Amigos!
    ONWARD!

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    Just wasted another half hour of my life so this lame ass web site could eat my post and tell me I’m “not authorized”? WTF?

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    Ha.. love it.

    I'm a convert to the after dead bands. I think I've written about this before here.. but after ignoring it for more than a decade.. I saw Phil by coincidence on Halloween in 2007 and kicked myself in the ass for being such an arrogant snob about my dead life. First, it was a good show, second.. I had so much fun. I was working in NYC and got off the subway to a complete circus in full swing, scored a ticket at cost still wearing my work garb, PC over my shoulder and the rest unfolded rather nicely. What a blast.. I get that people don't like or won't like D&C, but I think they are good.. listen to Oteil sing Comes a Time / China Doll or Chimenti throw out these incredible fills in Eyes of the World.. and yes, Help/Slip!/Franks is awesome. As much crap as people give Mayer, he is talented and capable. My favorite meme sent to me this week by someone here actually.. was of Chumlee wearing a steelie knit hat telling the Pawn Shop owner guy he wants to see Garcia on Acid.. and the reply.. the best I get you for that is Mayer and Advil.

    So I finished 4/1/91 this morning, a great little show.. I love Bruce in these years, but I think they kept Vince in a box. I would have liked to see him play piano more and synth less. As we rode down to Fenario....

    Anyway... I will start 10/31 later today and I have marked my Calendar on 9/24/2022 to start all those great shows Oroborous picked out. Really looking forward to them. :D

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    10.27.91 is bittersweet....

    ....first show since Bill Graham died. Honored him by opening with Sugar Magnolia, which I believe was one of his favorite Dead songs.

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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I am there, DARK STAR

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.