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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #3741
    The Good Ole G…
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    Bona Fide Classic!

    50 years ago at the Fillmore East.

    Third Dead bootleg I got in 1985.
    I've always loved it.
    My favorite Hard To Handle for sure.
    Whole show just cooks as I'm assuming All of you know, if you don't well I envy you today, cause prepare to get rocked by the GOGD.

    I'm going for the full meal deal.
    Starting with NRPS sbd.

    Goddamn I declare! If I coulda told my 15 year old self (as I was listening through the hiss of my multi-gen copy, dreaming of a better quality tape) where I'd be at today I'm not sure he woulda believed it.
    What a long strange trip indeed!

    Good stuff.

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    Concussion Anniversary....

    ....no. It's tomorrow. Or wait. Is it today? Nope. Definitely tomorrow.
    Shipping notice for 38 just received. ETA Monday.

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    Vguy,
    Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?

    Lesson learned. Sit down when doing balloons.

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    I was about to backtrack to…

    I was about to backtrack to 4/13, and 4/16/84, which I downloaded, but never had a chance to fully listen through, but I might hafta throw on the '71 Fillmore for the 4/29 anniversary. That was one of my earliest tapes, but I haven't heard it in ages. Otherwise, looks like I'm gonna be outa sync with you guys for a while, but I'm taking notes. ;)

    Thats_Otis, Strider 808808, DeadVikes: So, I gather Doc is Mr. '71, and 4/28 is his desert island tape? Damn. Better get on that. I've had 4/29 for as long as I can remember, but never managed to hear the day before. Into the queue it goes! :)

    Vguy72: Ain't always wrong, but I've never been right? ;)

    I second PROUDFOOT's welcome to PRODIGIT.

    I've loved that 4/18/71 show for so long. It'll always been one of my favorites.

    Strider 808808: I've got a tiny potted almond on my rooftop patio. It looked like it was having a rough time last year, but seems to have almonds this year. It's barely 3 feet tall, but it had beautiful blossoms this year. I need to read up on what I should do. Normally I figure plants know how to grow themselves better than I know how to grow them, so I leav'em alone, mostly. Almond Brothers, though... groan/laugh :) Good one. I like JIMINMD's idea for the growing soundtracks.

    DeadVikes: Interesting about that missing show from the '76 box set. I didn't pay much attention to that set 'cause I usually can't lay out for a big purchase like that. I hafta chip away an album or two at a time... and there's also international shipping... but anyway. That omission alone makes it a ripe pick.

    OROBORUS: Exactly what you said, like, five pages ago... lol. Having not listened to as much from the mid-80s, '84 in particular, it's great to have some people who can point me in the right direction. Lotta shows in those years. I'm glad I'm finally finding my footing. RE: "The energy that comes with the danger," yeah I hear that. Well said. Working with, or around things can lead to some very creative decisions. I think I mentioned in my previous post how I finally realized that a lot of the energy actually coming as a result of some of Jerry's physical frailties. More jammin' I'm always down with that! I would never presume to judge anyone's personal choices, and that isn't the reason I haven't explored that era as much. Take it to the limit!
    As I've said before, loving Jerry's silvery elf voice, a few experiences with croaky Jerry kind of bumming me out had made me "less enthusiastic" about collecting these tapes, but I would never say there's a Dead era I don't like. That 4/20 Scarlet Fire is amazing, yet completely different from the also amazing late 70s performances.

    I've been slowly building up from a million gen second set only Cornell tape. Got lucky enough to have a buddy who's uncle was a taper, so I did have an 83 San Raphael, 6/29/86 Alpine Valley, and '88 Miami, Houston, Dallas that all came from him. Maybe that's where the 85 New Year show came from , too. The Formerly The Warlocks Hampton show must've come from a trade. Speaking of '71, got real into '71 after getting in on some tape trees with 2/18, 2/24 Capitol Theater, to 4/17 Princeton, to 4/29 Fillmore (is that what we're on today?), then probably came the Harpur College tape from '70 which got a ton of air time, and the wild '69 Big Rock Pow Wow. The King Biscuit tape arrived at some point. This was the 90s, so there were a few contemporary trees that kept me up to date, too. Got heavily into the primal 60s stuff when torrenting became big. Still slowly filling in the gaps when I've got time to lend my ears and sort through sources. Until this month, 4/19 Philly was somehow the only show from '84 I'd managed to get into my library, and I only added that a year ago. I had a handful of '83 shows and a handful of '85 shows, and I finally clicked with a couple '82 shows in the past year.

    Notes: Let's see, 4/21 Philly, also back to add the 17th. 10/20 sbd. Ok. I'm a true believer in audience tapes, but I'll keep that in mind. :) :) :) 6/25/85... scrolled past several rave reviews while trying to figure out where I'd left off here. Interest is definitely piqued. 85 summer tour, in general, check. Then 6/24 and 6/30. Cool. That oughta keep me occupied for a while. :D

    Also, not a skier, but that deep powder analogy is a keeper!

    DAVEROCK: Yeah, man. That Silver Machine clip is cool. So much goin' off there. Looks like utter chaos. Great!

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    Bobby totally blew the final verse in St. Stephen....

    ....you can hear them try to gather themselves together.
    On. The. Fly. And succeeded!
    That's my take anyway. I'm a biased commenter.

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    Here is to you Doc! What a great show! Best ever? That is in the eye of the beholder. Sound quality is A+. That is certainly something that has puzzled me throughout the years on how some came through smelling like roses and others, well they did not.
    Love The Rub, King Bee, that Morning Dew is another top performer. Shortest Dark Star I have ever heard. St. Stephen is great and interesting. Strong finish.

    And man, they sure beat the shit out of Truckin in 71.

    Carlo, nice number, highest number I have seen so far. Enjoy it.
    Guess that must mean #7 will be on the way at some point.

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    Had not heard it in many years. Vaguely remember the bootleg cassette showing up in Missoula by the late 70s. The recording quality is stunning. Be there now. Cool coincidence ,I heard (rolling) thunder in the distance during the 17: minute mark on the Other One with Phil bombs at the same time. Those Dark Star people sure got a surprise (again) during the five night Fillmore run. The Morning Dew is so powerful it gives me chills up my spine. My old bootleg had a brutal chop/cut out at the crescendo . Skullduggery I say. Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead restored the complete song. What an amazing Dead concert. So focused and powerful it transcends time & space. Timeless music for the ages. (Read ; historians 50 years from now)

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    Little surprises -Dap 38 #24,399

    There is a little sweet surprise inside bonus disk. I'm not into spilling beans.

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    9/8/73 - "I intend to release this one whenever the time is right."
    - Dick Latvala - 06:55am Jul 3, 1997 PDT

    Could it be that the time is right?!?!

    Nice share ConeKid.

    Hi all... I'ma try and jam on 4/28/71 today.

    Keep on Truckin'

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    http://www.agitators.com/gd/dick_1973.html

    It’s confirmed, Dick thought highly of the upcoming DaP38.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 07:40

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....yes Dave. One of the more interesting ones I've come across.
"Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley formed the band as a couple in 1984. They chose the name "Yo La Tengo" (Spanish for "I have it," referring to a female-gender object or person). The name came from a baseball anecdote that occurred during the 1962 season, when New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, "I got it! I got it!" only to run into Chacón, a Venezuelan who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, "¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!" instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words "¡Yo la tengo!" as a way to avoid outfield collisions.[5] After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, "What the hell is a Yellow Tango?""
Hilarious. Don't miss those team meetings Frank!!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 08:41

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pretty good

all together now..."it's not Europe 72, but..."

it's still pretty good

PS I got my work done that day, my friends...luckily, I didn't have to answer to my dad, since he is in Salem Oregon

update on 12/3/79...there's one of those weird patches where all of a sudden we go from soundboard to the hallway and then back to the soundboard.

Onward into Friday. I will do my best to stay focused on my ish.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:07

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Perhaps my favorite '77 show, add in the bonus tracks and you have a really special release.

Thanks for carrying the torch folks and keeping this alive. Been a bit busy the last few weeks and struggling just to hang on here. Gotta admit, I missed a few of these shows. Trying to manage getting stuff done with the best winter we have had here in more than a decade. Winter is fun, GD is fun, winter and GD is more fun. Add 2/26 to the mix, sublime.

Blink or relax for just a moment and when you snap out of it.. you're old. I cannot play as hard as I used to.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:09

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some slowness in there

2/26/77: Jerry sparkling and spry

2/17/79: still plenty bouncy

12/3/79: ssaayyyyy whhhhaaaa...? Terrapin and Wharf Rat....

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

It must have been horrifying for the rest of the band to see such a rapid decline.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08

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I think I might do a first course of Uptown 81, followed by a Swing 77 dessert!

Happy Friday, DeadLand! Keep the good vibes rolling!

Of, for those of you who like a good Matrix, here is 2/26/81: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-02-26.mtx.chappell.sb02a.28383.sbefa…

Like most shows, give it a minute to "settle down easy" :)

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:13

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Def. not a top-tier pick for me, which is a shame because Fall/Winter 79 is one of my favorite periods of GD. Kind of puzzled why this was chosen, TBH. However, if memory serves, the "Truckin'" is massive if listened to in the proper state of mind and at the proper volume (LOUD!) I do love the artwork on this one...

Overall though, many better shows from this era.

Peace

I think we all know what the top picks are and what constitutes as filler.

If we all had a crystal ball of truth.. it would reveal what we know. Each year until this comes to a screeching halt.. we are going to get a mix of what is deemed releasable shows. The great and the truly good.

That's how it's gonna play out my friends. No need to hope each and every show is a top ten. I will add, I want to see all the releasable shows get a Full Norman. What we are listening to each day and night is history and these shows need to get released.. here's my twenty five bucks, bring it, even 12/3/79, which is not the worst Dave's Picks..

On a separate note, all the remaining Dave's Picks need to have a Cumberland or they will have a revolution on their hands. Who's with me?

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 19:39

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I am happy with what we get.. I was thinking how some releases are wow for the quality or reputation... Others like the July 78 box were more of whoa we have soundboard releases that never existed to us... Would I be happy if we got a Dane County from Feb 15, 1973 oh yes, but a Feb 24, 1973 University of Iowa show would fall into that July 78 box set release type of emotion.. That type of release is what I wish we would get a little more often, but I wonder what the potential amount of releases would even fall into that category . be good everyone. bob t

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:02

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I am there, DARK STAR

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:21

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I'm there with BTK, UNKLESAM, ICECRMCNKD & everyone else who loves these shows.

52 years ago, 4 of the greatest shows ever started at the Fillmore West and holy shit they're amazing.

The Dark Star the band played on 2/27 is beyond.... description.

Big props to Betty Cantor for picking this one out of the bunch and putting it on the first live Grateful Dead release for all of us to freak out over.
Crazy, she did that before I was even born.
Bow to the Queen.

My little memory on the importance of the Fillmore West Complete Box Set release. (which I've told before)
I saw on the internet that the Grateful Dead was going to release all of Europe '72, I hadn't been collecting the Dead in years as I was booking local rock shows at a club and was into a completely different local music scene that had been eating my brain so in many ways I felt that I'd moved on from the Dead.

But seeing that the WHOLE Europe '72 tour was going to be released just stopped me in my tracks.
When I followed the rabbit down the hole..
one of the first things I saw, they'd already released the COMPLETE Fillmore West '69 run!
The Bus came by that day, and I got back on.

WALSTIB indeed.

This Dark Star rules.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:23

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...be a Debbie downer. I just don’t like when EVERYDAY is a “anniversary” pick, or more to the point, perhaps SOMETIMES we do an anniversary from different years that never get any love.
But who can the weather (or the music) command.
Onward!

EDIT: I’ve been blissfully wallowing in Dave’s Picks 33, 35, 36, and 37. Still have that 72 stuff to get to, but some 69 is always fine, yuck, yuck..

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 09:49

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Haha

This is not "this Day in Dead History" you all ;)

I'm just playing...

“[To poop] originally meant ‘to produce a short blast of sound,’”

Maybe OB just wanted us to hear a short blast of sound?

OB, you know I'm just taking the mickey out of you cause you haven't listened to 10/18/72 yet?
I dig all your input mang.

On a more musical note.. Get it?!?!

I don't think I noticed that patch in The Eleven on 2/27 before 7:54-8:49..
I wonder if that had something to do with them using the 1/26/69 version on Live Dead.
hmmm

You guys are funny.

The Fillmore West box is sorta of a white whale for me. On the fence with release announcement and when I finally went to pull the trigger it had sold out in previous 24 hrs. Not the last time I was slow on the draw but that was a tough one and years later when i started checking resellers it was a bit pricey. Do have the compilation. Someday.

So I'm going with Live Dead today and the Dark Star sounds glorious right now.

Onward!

I know y’all giving me shit, which is nice!
I think my suggestions are not being seen in the right light. Not trying to be negative...Think of it this way;
There’s over 2300 shows, I’d like to hear as many as possible, even if just once, vs listening to say, only the same 200 shows repeatedly. So more shows equals a positive, no? Especially looking for those weird little chestnuts that only a super squirrel finds 🐿
Also, it’s a fragile eco system. Been listening for over forty years already, hope to be able to do so for many more.
Variety is the spice of life!
Ok,enough of all that,
ONWARD!

EDIT: as your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hereby propose an amendment to the cosmos hear-by declaring that henceforth the Elevan, should, and must be played on, well....11!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 10:44

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I also missed out on FW and the steamer trunk, although I did get the 72 AME.

Have FW 27 and 28 on vinyl. Both say Plangent Process. I don’t believe that the FW69 Box says Plangent, but I don’t have a physical copy to look at.
Can some check their Box to see if it says Plangent?
If it doesn’t then that suggests that FW69 has been remastered - Plangentized, Normanized, and vinylized.
27 and 28 sound really nice.
The question is, when will they release the 24/192 hi-def copies?
They could put it on BluRay audio like Led Zep did for Song Remains The Same.

No offense meant Oro, I don’t actually keep up with the picks every day, mostly just on weekends since I don’t listen to music at work. Sometimes do partial shows at night.

Well, it’s around 50 here, the snow is gone, and there’s 2 months of dog poop in the yard....
That's going to take like 45 minutes to clean up.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:34

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Conekid, no Plagent was not used on the Filmore box. The first box they worked on was Winterland 73.

Oroborous, yes, we are still not This Day in Grateful History. Shoot, we are coming up on the one year anniversary of The Pick of the Day. Let's keep it rolling!

Do you all remember what the first pick was?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53

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I've got the POTD list ;)

Might've missed a day or two here and there when there wasn't a pick or it wasn't clear what the pick was.
But usually would jot down a notation.
For the most part it's complete.

VGuy... I wrote down 2/27/69 for today.

It's too epic not to give it the nod.

But.. that leaves room for more goodness, might have to do 2/27/81 later.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:10

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None taken!
This ones for you and the job ahead
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk

EDIT: lol I thought we were doing 69 today? or am I a day late and a dollar short again!
Dbl Edit: yeah, nice work GOGD...we oughta call him scribe, or Radar O’reily

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:16

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Plangent or not, still sounds pretty good!
Haven’t heard these since some awesome person turned me on to copies s couple years ago...so good call, ...was due!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 13:23

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A man walks down the street
He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 15:40

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And Betty when you call me,
You can call me Al.

Yeah... listening to the Dead all day can make you a little soft in the middle.
But what a way to go.

Don't want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Bonedigger, Bonedigger

God I love DeadHeads, I just wish there were more in my neighbor.

FW Box was a Multi Track release.

....tbh Proudfoot, I dabbled. Started with him circa 1980, then moved forward and backward. Got distracted with another band. Circling back.
Like most nuts, pistachios are healthy and good food.
Avocados are up there too.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 03:43

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God, I must be getting old. A good hit on Friday night at work, up all night, cloudy all Saturday, passed out early, up now.

Anyway,,, coming home from work Friday night fairly electric. Got billboard hits of 1973 playing and the Temps come on with Papa Was a Rolling Stone. (the 12 minute version) My Buick has a ok sound system so I cranked it up. What a great recording. Wonderful separation of sounds, the relentless cymbal. If you haven't heard in a while, pop that bad boy on,,, good headphones sound great,,, and crank it.

I always say Motown is like coke,,,,,, everybody likes coke,,,,,, and sara lee.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:51

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The Zappaverse is vast. I like some of it, dislike some of it, ignore much of it.

If it didnt take, thats cool. His stuff is definitely not for everyone.

If you decide to try it again, i recommend WOIIFTMoney

Also, I happened upon a youtube video called Zappa 60s guitar solos yesterday. That stuff rocks

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 09:55

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Uhhhhhh....

I am on a "no GD for now" diet. So, I got nothing for POTD.

I was surprised yesterday by several facts. Biggest, Temps not the original band,,,, Undisputed Truth (yes, Smilin Faces), put out the first cut and when I scanned my collection I was shocked at the number of covers. And yes, there were maybe 3 from Mickey's band :-)

Another one of those songs the Dead should have done,,,,,, right after Ghost Riders in the Sky!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 15:08

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....is Mickey Harts Mystery Box CD. Or the last show from Anchorage.
Choose wisely.