Dave’s Picks Volume 37: College of William & Mary, Williamsburg, VA 4/15/78

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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February 1, 2021 - 11:05am

#1571

SWR

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February 1, 2021

No shipping update

I got the email Wednesday that my copy had shipped but UPS and USPS haven’t updated anything yet. What happens if I never receive it? Will dead.net ship me another? I always get the yearly sub but never had any trouble before.
February 1, 2021 - 10:54am

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daverock

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Dead Nuggets and Fab Feb

There are several songs on the Deads first album that would have sounded great on Nuggets. Any of those hyper breakdowns played at ( and on) great speed - plus Pigpens organ sound. Pure garage psych.

One of those bands I really liked of that ilk were The Chocolate Watchband. The one to get is probably the compilation " Melts in Your Brain.. Not On Your Wrist". It includes their ultra trippy Inner Mystique album. Half the tracks on that weren't even played by the band, but were instrumentals played by studio musicians. It sounds like it would be crap- but its waaaay out there.

A February Dead show I dug out this morning was 2/26/77, better known as Dave's Picks 29. It may not be quite up there with 68,69,70 or 74 Feb shows, but it's still a great listen. I love the way it opens with Terrapin Station - a perfect way to open a show. I'm surprised they didn't open with this more often-it seems much more appropriate there than in the second set, where it usually appeared.
February 1, 2021 - 10:38am

#1573

nappyrags

Joined:
January 24, 2013

So far...

no shipping notice, no product...but that's cool...time is on my side...
February 1, 2021 - 10:14am

#1574

Crow Told Me

Joined:
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The Seeds and Other Heady Nuggs

You could probably make a valid argument that the Seeds invented punk rock. Check out 'Pushin Too Hard": two chords, lyrics so dumb they would make Dee Dee Ramone blush, a drummer who sounds like he hasn't yet discovered that he has cymbals. It's great! And it came out in November1965, months before the first Velvet Underground album and waaaay before the Stooges first album, which is often credited as the first punk record.

I think I remember hearing the song on the radio as a little kid, but I definitely remember getting the Nuggets compilation in the '70s, Lenny Kaye (then a Rolling Stone writer, later guitarist for the Patti Smith Group) selected all the cuts, and he kind of sold everybody on an idea that no one had really considered up to that point: that a lot of the countless one-hit-wonder garage bands in the '60s had certain similarities--simplicity, an emphasis on raw emotion over polished musicianship, anti-authoritarian attitude, etc--and that eventually fueled the wave of punk bands that came out in the late '70s, I think.

Anyway, Nuggets prompted me to check out a few albums by the some of the bands that had singles on the compilation. Alas, most of them didn't have the versatility to be interesting for more than a song or two. But the Seeds "Web of Sound" album is actually pretty good, in a twisted psych punk kind of way. And the first album by the Remains is actually great: excellent songs, good playing, good recording. Not sure why they weren't hugely popular. And Heads will know all about the 13th Floor Elevators, whose albums are also pretty pretty good.

The Dead are almost never mentioned in the same breath as the Nuggets bands, which seems a little odd given that they come from the same period, and given that the Dead's earliest music would've fit right in on Nuggets. "Can't Come Down," "Alice D. Millionaire," "Cream Puff War," any of those songs would've fit right in. I suppose Lenny couldn't include the Dead (who he liked, wrote a positive review of Live Dead, in fact) because they weren't one-hit wonders, and by the time Nuggets came out they had already long since outgrown their psych punk roots. But those roots are there.
February 1, 2021 - 8:59am

#1575

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Not sold out yet

Either 25,000 is the right amount, or a lot of people don’t like April ‘78, which has been affirmed by some posts below.

Maybe DaP 38 will go faster.

UPS claims to have handed mine off to USPS, but it must be sitting on the loading dock because USPS hasn’t scanned it in yet.
February 1, 2021 - 8:37am

#1576

deadtony

Joined:
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Sjbutler

In the same boat as you man.. Tracking notice that doesn't work no matter what I try
February 1, 2021 - 7:41am

#1577

proudfoot

Joined:
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Deaduary

2/9/73
2/15/73

plus a whole lot more, as written by GOGD below

Just because...I am listening to 1/13/80 at the moment. Not a Feb show, and one I am not very familiar with (had on cassette way back..had some oddball bias against it.) I think it was a benefit show, not a full blown GD show.
February 1, 2021 - 7:40am

#1578

proudfoot

Joined:
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Mr Farmer let me harvest your crops

I have two CDs of the Seeds

Travel With Your Mind (compilation), purchased years back. "Chocolate River", "Travel With Your Mind", "The Flower Lady and Her Assistant", etc.
First Album, linked via the courtesy of Carlo below

early psychedelia
February 1, 2021 - 7:23am

#1579

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
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A Great Month

BTK - I like where this conversation is going.

And not just because of your nice complement ;)

71 Capitol Theatre Run
73 February shows are wonderful IMO 2/9, 2/15, 2/19, 2/26, 2/28 in particular
74 Winterland shows are hot
77 Swing Auditorium
78 Dane County
79 Keith & Donna’s Final Show is a ripper
81 Uptown (I might need to listen to these again…)
82 Pauley shows I think I dig those.

And then you get a lot of shows at the HJK & Oakland Coliseum after that (Not consistently great playing, but great times!)
And it’s worth noting 2/21/95 is the only official release from ’95.
Did I leave any out?

But really the shows you mentioned in 68, 69 & 70, for me are in the Pantheon of the most epic moments in GD Music History.

Funny.. cause Playing In The Band is my fave and if I’m not mistaken, the first example of it’s origins, The Main Ten is from 2/19/69 Celestial Synapse… So that does it.

February is magic.

Edit: I see Doc was pointing some of these out too, and I didn’t go and read where this conversation started either so I’m just butting in here.
Shit, I’m not ever sure where I am.
Where am I?
February 1, 2021 - 6:41am

#1580

sjbutler

Joined:
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Was super geeked when I got…

Was super geeked when I got my shipping notice last Wednesday, but here I am on Monday and the UPS tracking doesn't even show that that they have received it...the dreaded "UPS could not locate the shipment details for this tracking number." Anyone else experiencing this?

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Slow starts

I only saw them 5 times...but what struck me was how muted the start of those concerts were, compared to some of the Spinal Tap style entrances some bands made. The Dead seemed more jazz like in their approach - shuffle on, ease into a tune..no crescendos or flashing lights. With some bands, the build up was so dizzying that you would have thought the Second Coming was at hand.

deadegad, you will not be disappointed...

However, note that the Atlanta '70 show on Stages has been superceded by "Freedom: Atlanta Pop Festival," which is more complete in better sound. Once you devour the Band of Gypsys nearly complete four-show set, try delving into the Dagger Records official bootlegs from the Jimi camp. There's quite a few excellent shows in pretty damn decent sound. Two I'd recommend: Live in Ottawa, 19 March '68/second show, and The Baggies Rehearsal Sessions, Nov-Dec '69 as the Gypsys warmed up for the Fillmore shows.

To daverock's point, when the GD opened a show, in my view, they focused on the energy not the volume and certainly not any theatrics. To your point, they always knew they were in for a long evening -- 3 hours of music, maybe 4-5 hours of "involvement," so I'd think pacing would be key.

Muted starts

Yes, it wasn't a criticism. If anything, it seemed indicative of the bands ability to communicate and develop a show, rather than bludgeon you into defeat with volume and lights. They played to an audience, rather than at them.

Customer service SUCKS

I live 30 minutes drive from where they ship Dave’s from in Carlsbad, CA. I have a subscription. A confirmation. But no shipping notice, no customer service rep to speak to, unanswered emails from Rhino....I’m tired of this SHIT. FIX IT

Deadhed76

I hear you. The only thing that seems to work for me is to PM Marye and also send an email to Drrhino@wmgcustomerservice.com
Marye is great. She’s very kind and helpful

Stranger opener

Even better when it’s Stranger>Franklin’s.

Never witnessed one, but did just listen to the one from 7-10-89 GS Box.

Blazing opening

Roger Waters The Wall tour 2010-12.
It’s pretty cool.

Agree with Daverock that most bands need to grab the audience’s attention right away because the people are there for the show just as much (or more) as the music.
But for bands that play the same setlist every night, and tour once a year in support of a new album, that’s what they need to do to keep selling albums and tix every time they pass through town.

The Dead had a grate light show, but most people were there for the music (some were just there for the party).

Cosmic Charlie. / 3/1/69. Fillmore West

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgEXFivR9bY. One of my favorite shows of alltime, what an absolute rocker!!

Theatre

There was an element of theatre with a lot of bands in the 70s. With some bands there still is-the opening of a Stones show-the last one I saw was about 2007 - there was still a sense of drama when they came on. The Dead seemed more like a jazz band in comparison with something like that. More like the Miles Davis Quintet of the 60s than the Rolling Stones.

to your point, icecrmcnkd

Certainly nothing wrong with attending a show for the party or socializing -- how many times have I gone to a show because pals urged me to go because "it'll be a good time." The crowd is (or was) almost always an exciting part of the whole endeavor. (Over time, that's changed for me as people act selfishly or talk constantly or jostle, whatever, plus the prices...)

On the other hand, when the early post-GD incarnation bands led by Bobby and Phil came to Red Rocks, some of us were raving about the vault releases coming out and nearly everyone we spoke to had no clue about them and weren't even interested to hear about them. Presumably they were there for the live music and the party, but not particularly interested in the music releases by the original band. No judgment here, obviously, as I have done both -- depending on the band -- but certainly a curious distinction, given that here, we all wait at the mouth of the cave, ready to devour whatever mastodon bones Dave throws to us.

Déjà Vu All Over Again

I recently ordered a few items from another artist’s site, and as the items come due for delivery, I came across this in the fine print:
“ PLEASE NOTE that we are currently moving warehouses and with the current COVID-19 lockdown there may be delays in processing and shipping all orders. Thank you for your patience and understanding during these trying times.”
We have all been here before.

Best “theatrical” band opening I ever saw for an artist was a Peter Gabriel show. The lights in the arena go down, expecting the band to hit the stage, but instead very bright beacons lit up around the arena, as each band member entered at a different entrance, walking towards the stage, each holding one of these bright lights skyward. We sat right beside one of the entrances, and it startled my friend so much, his pipe and “tobacco” went flying a few rows forward, scared the wits out of him. I never laughed so hard!

New Bear Sonic Journal?

Recommended for the OSF - Bear's Sonic Journals: That Which Colors the Mind AAK with Indranil Bhattacharya and Zakir Hussain Live at the Family Dog at the Great Highway San Francisco, California, May 29, 1970 2-CD set

I see this set on the website, but don't seem able to buy. Too new? Anyone else see this? Anyone have opinions? Anyone order yet?

New Bear Sonic Journal

Dennis, the Ali Akbar Khan release that you refer to is up for order on the Owsley Stanley Foundation website.

https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/bears-sonic-journals/ali-akbar-khan…

There is a big red "Order now" button.

Coincidence? Dennis--

I was sitting here looking up an album by Zakir Hussain (Making Music) on my new streaming service (Qobuz), then read Zakir's name in your post!

I don't know about all my openers, but as I've mentioned here, my first show (6/24/91) opened with HSF, and the second set opened with China-->Rider. That was the best of the 23 shows I caught, and it, along with the show before it and the two following it, could make a sweet box.

Speaking of boxes, isn't it time for Dave to announce the 14-CD box of everything usable from 1968?

Simon Bar Sinister & Owsley Newest

Thanks guy,,,, I was using the large red button, "buy now",,,,, didn't scroll down to see the "Order Now" button!

It's ordered,,,, now sure if it's coming out in the future,,, or available now,,,,,, but it is ordered!

Re: Box Set

"....here, we all wait at the mouth of the cave, ready to devour whatever mastodon bones Dave throws to us." Ha..

mmm Mastodon Bones, meaning it must be very old which could only mean a 14 CD Box Set of everything releasable from 1968 + a two disc bonus show from the fall of 67. Glad you two figured it out, makes perfect sense.. With Bolo's whereabouts currently unknown.. it's good to a few step forward and fill in the gaps.

Speaking of ‘68

Over on the Tapers section this week, it has 8.21.68 which was the music included with the ORIGINS deluxe edition on vinyl, for those of you who haven’t heard it.

Dead & Co Downloads

To those looking for a D&C show to start your listening, this is the best show in their catalog (I think):
https://livedead.co/live-music/0,19321/Dead-and-Company-mp3-flac-downlo…
This band is good, definitely the best post Jerry lineup. Mayer did say they plan to tour again post covid.

Ali Akbar Khan

I recommend the Ali Akbar Khan album. I bought it in December and it was delivered just in time for Christmas. I have to admit I didn’t order directly since doing that with largely unlimited releases just adds to the price with the various charges that are added when they are imported into the UK.

Ali Akbar Khan

I second Colin's opinion on this release. It is a fantastic late night, lights off, headphones album, or, if you happen to have some of what David Crosby called "pullover pot". It was available late last year. You can buy from OSF, or from Amazon. It's well worth the price. Zakir Hussain was just a pup when this was recorded. Beautiful stuff indeed.

Music is the BEST!!

Breathe. Breathe in the air....

.....Happy 48th Anniversary to Dark Side Of The Moon.

If I had a bone to pick.....

It'd be RSD with 8-21-68, no need to empty the vault of all '68 ... just yet.

As for Dead & Co. being "the best" post-Jer group? Bosh! You must not have caught the Phil Lesh Quintet. That little band was a dynamic monster and easily the top post-Jer band.

Okay, boys, gauntlet thrown!

Just keepin' it alive til that fall '72 box announcement...

Hey JimMD, is there an incantation that'll lure Bolo out to offer one of his knicker-twisting clues?

JRAD

While Joe Russo's Almost dead does not qualify for the "post-Jerry" category they are fantastic so JRAD together with DSO; et, al, and the Bob and Phil incarnations, our collective GDead itch gets scratched very, very well. JRAD are great!

Re: Bolo

I hear if you say his name three times he magically appears. That is unless he's in a precariously tensioned contraption in a medieval dungeon somewhere, which is always a possibility.

Agree with HF, Deadegad (and others). As much as I like D&C, some of Phil's bands were incredible and JRad shreds it. Nothing's gonna bring Jerry back and I love some of the interpretations of GD music out there, both with and without the original band members.

HF, bone to pick?

Is it a mastodon bone?

Anyway, I’ll take a licorice flavored mastodon bone.

It’s the small victories....

Like when you cheat at reCRAPTCHA and win....

Bolo
Bolo
Bolo

Weird

I was trekking in the Pyrenees on the trail of some Portugese cartel bad hombres when all of a sudden I found myself at the corner of Post and Steiner in San Francisco.

What the heck just happened?

It can’t be this easy

C’mon man. Winterland was at the corner of Post & Steiner. So, a Winterland box, but from what year??

So..

It's the Winterland Box, the Other Ones (all unreleased Winterland shows).

Ok. Makes perfect sense to me.

Walkin' in a Winterland wonderland

If that is the case...

Sweet

Or maybe

Bolo will now walk to any number of SF venues where the GD played

Or...

Box Set

I still think MHammond's Wall of Sound Box was one of the best concept ideas.. the box would look like the Wall of Sound and contain all remaining Wall of Sound shows. As a nice bonus they could include a fathead Wall Of Sound graphic to stick on your wall behind the big screen and surround sound. The bonus discs would be all 1974 non Wall of Sound shows (the ones before the Cow Palace show).

Who are these marketing clowns at Rhino.. they should just hire us.

HAPPY 77TH BIRTHDAY Mr. Roger Daltrey

77 years young to one of the best pipes in the biz.....and to add to it the celebration THE WHO SELLOUT for you "WHOHEADS"

SUPER DELUXE EDITION OF THE CLASSIC GROUNDBREAKING ALBUM
112 TRACKS ACROSS FIVE CDS & TWO 7” VINYL SINGLES
FEATURING 46 UNRELEASED TRACKS INCLUDING 14 UNHEARD PETE TOWNSHEND DEMOS
80-PAGE HARD BACK BOOK WITH NEW LINER NOTES BY PETE TOWNSHEND AS WELL AS RARE POSTERS, INSERTS & MEMORABILIA
RELEASED 23 APRIL ON UMC/POLYDOR

And for some added fun The Dead and Pete Townshend in 1981
https://youtu.be/-Oym_LQCsPc

Another month...

Thin, my friend, you are not alone. It has now been just over four months since I received my shipping notice for DP 36 at the end of October, with a tracking number that shows that it never actually shipped. So now I'm still waiting for my unnumbered "make up" copy. This is unacceptable...and how many others must be in the same boat! At the very least dead.net should be offering us some kind of extra to compensate for the appalling level of service, lack of communication/transparency, and the LONG wait. This experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth that after subscribing to all previous years of Dave's, and all the Road Trips, and only missing a couple of Dick's volumes, I reluctantly decided not to subscribe this year. Enough is enough.

Are Fatheads still a thing?....

....I'll take one of every Grateful Dead keyboardist and rotate them as my current listening revolves.
Used to have some of every Spinal Tap drummer, but they mysteriously combusted.
I blame gardening.
Edit. Bolo gave a clue and it included a mountain range. I was focused on Andorra.

*RE/ Hey What the heck just happeBolo, maybe it was a flashback

Maybe it was a flashback Bolo ? Lol or even a
Flash forward! Lol nothen left to do but Smile Smile smile! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Shrewnews - sorry

Sorry Shrew. This too shall pass. Someday we'll get our unnumbered DaP36's and we can move on.

Who Sell Out

Kevin Brandon-thanks for the heads up. This was always my favourite Who album. After Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, of course.

The lunatics are in my hall...

The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too

I'll see you on the "Dark Side of the Moon!"

"Winterland" could mean the box is from a colder region that has mountains...Alaska?

Be careful the hills have eyes!

Box Set

While my preference would be a 1972 box with a dozen shows featuring Dark Stars Bird Songs, the Winterland idea could produce some gems:

1969 - October (2 shows)
1970 - NYE
1971 - March (2 shows) , May (2 shows, one is partially released on LP) & NYE
1972 - October (1 show), (December 4 shows, including the behemoth from NYE)
1974 (2 shows in Feb, and not sure what to do with the October leftovers from the movie soundtrack - maybe bonus tracks)
1977 (3 in March, 3 in December)
1978 (leftovers of the 5 show From Winterland with Love run).

Lots to choose from.

Winterland Oct. '74

Would love if it were Winterland Oct. '74 with video.

I listened to the soundtrack release yesterday and it didn't sound as good as you would hope coming from multi-track and all. This really needs the killer mixing by Jeffrey Norman.

"(TRI Studios) is a state of the art, world-class audio, video, streaming venue, and recording facility."

We may just be getting a few boxes like the Giants box in the future!

I turn my back for one minute, and.....

An incantation is created, offered, and POOF! The genie comes out of the freakin' bottle, murmuring ... clues?

It's a trick! as Jer was wont to say, when a stage announcement came that told "Smedley" (not his real name) to meet his friend at the concession stand for his "medicine."

I suspect a diversionary tactic: a) it cannot be that easy, b) Bolo's not going to steal DL's thunder, and c) it cannot be that easy.

Though I note that 12-10-72, 12-11-72 and 12-31-72, all played at Winterland, have yet to be released.

Dang it, Bolo, ya did a cannonball into the pool. It may not be "meaningful," but the fools at poolside simply cannot afford to ignore the splashing.

2021 Boxes

Looks like it's a small spring Winterland, '77 box, and then a box in the fall of 1980.

The hints are pointing to two boxes.

April box sets

April 77 (Palladium), April 78 (4-12, 4-14, 4-16, 4-19 and 4-21) or April 69 (Hark! The Ark.)

P.S. Crosswalks

Re: Cannonball

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIE1BpW2zyw

It's a relentless conspiracy, HF. Each morning we all get (well, everyone but you) hundreds of PM's from the good and evil folks here with fake and creative ideas to duke you into box set fever. It's been going on for years. You'd think it would have gotten old, yet we are endlessly amused. Some of these ideas are pure gold, priceless.

My favorite is the Ark Box. The Ark shows, like Cornell, never happened.. they were spliced together at TRI from other shows, many of which have been released by now and inauspiciously uploaded to Archive.org. Yes.. TRI meaning Bob Weir is in on the scheme. Bob, Phil, Mickey, Bill, even the dead keyboardists are in on it thanks to modern technology and the Ouija board. They all think it's hilarious.

Just kidding.. but I do enjoy a good box set fever and multi-track delirium. Especially on an uneventful Tuesday morning. Ark ark.