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    Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

    The town crier's addendum:

    Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • boblopes
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    What's 50% on Fremont Street like? Don't think I'll be visiting this year. Hoping May 2022!

  • boblopes
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    Wow Blueskye what a moving video…

    Wow Blueskye what a moving article/video. Makes me want to get a mylar balloon filled with helium and give it a go. I was always impressed when I think it was Dead & Co had space for the visual impaired to enjoy the shows.

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    Hey 1stshow70878 - The guy with the neon tape stripes on his guitar is Tom Hamilton from Joe Russo's Almost Dead. Joe Russo is the drummer staring into the camera. If you have not seen "Joe Russo's Almost Dead" or JRAD, it's closest to the wow factor of seeing live Dead probably since Phil and Friends of the late 90's. They really go off than any of the other bands since Jerry's passing. They do a ripping Catfish John and their other guitar player is very good too. I almost didn't recognize Tom with the grizzly beard, but I did recognize his guitar. The guy with the Teal SG is Jackie Greene who did the simultaneous singing/playing with that side by side double zoom session. Mike Gordon from Phish was on bass. Grahame Lesh (Phil's son) is the singer /guitarist that starts off and David Crosby's son Jason is the singer (almost looks and sounds like him). The other guitarist that starts the song with Lesh's son is Ross James with the light blue Strat looking guitar. Stanley Jordan is the guitarist using both hands on the frets. Holly Bowling played the baby grand piano. She does both Phish and Grateful Dead tunes and is a very talented pianist. Karl Denson is on flute. I am not familiar with the other musicians but boy is that an impressive rendition. I think I've listened to it 10 times. I'm going to give a listen on headphones, hopefully it's mixed well.

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    ...that Grateful Dead item is going fast!

  • dmcvt
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    Altec Lansing power

    Believe those AL speakers were powered by a pair of Macintosh tube amps... this was at Chip's (parents) Bethesda MD house, he converted his attic room into a listening space. Thinking about it, seem to recall he was bi- or tri- amping those speakers... they had 15" woofers. Audiophile, an amazing system for the time. Few high school kids had equipment or parents that would allow serious volume at home. For a while, Are You Experienced seemed to create the before and after, who knew anyone could play like that. Next bulletin from how to make a guitar do anything you ever wanted was Jeff Beck's "Truth", 1968. Thanks for posting a link to Phil's birthday treat, Unbroken Chain, very sweet.

  • DeadVikes
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    Was announced on 2/13/2020 and as you said PF released on 3/20/2020. Actual delivery date of course varied.

    Maybe we get some news soon??

  • BlueSkye
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    Heartwarming story and video

    Just read about this in Stereophile. I just had to share after watching it.

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-video-tribute-art-dudley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNrcb-9Gi8c

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    I've been wondering about something for some time, and now Alvarhanso brought it up, so I'll ask: why not offer subscribers the opportunity to download a copy of their DaPs? It seems like a very simply way to alleviate the complaints about late shipments and defective CDs.

    Alvarhanso suggested mp3s, but I think ideally we could choose to get FLACs or some other lossless format. It would still suck if your discs didn't ship, but at least you could hear the shows while you waited. Lots of record companies will give you a download code when purchase physical format music. Even Amazon does it for some records and CDs.

    I assume this has come up before, so maybe somebody knows why they don't pursue this simple solution. Maybe they're concerned about file sharing? I've got news for you: that's already happening. Maybe they're worried the availability of digital versions would devalue the limited edition CDs? All I can tell is that some of the early Dave Picks are on Youtube right now, and physical copies still sell on ebay and discogs for hundreds of dollars. If Rhino did something like made a download part of the subscription package, and then offered to sell downloads to the public after each limited edition sold out, wouldn't that be a win-win?

    What am I missing here? Besides, you know, a DaP 37 disc one that doesn't skip?

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    Got an email from dead.net the other day (3/12) that my DaP 36 was on its way. My third such email, but this one at least had correct addresses on the email in both spots, and the tracking at least did get the correct destination city and state. But then nothing until it shipped yesterday, and should reach Saturday if Louis DeJoy doesn't add to his collection of purloined DaP 36s. But the kicker is that I just received DiP 36 on vinyl from another company that licensed it. They only put it out there that it was going to be released around 2/1, then word was it was delayed until at least 2/14, but they would email when it was ready. I got the email on 3/2, placed my order in the nick of time, and it was actually delivered yesterday, 3/15, but just picked it up.

    Too big to fail, or too big to succeed? I criticize as a consumer who has done quite a bit of business with this site, and has had very few problems. The problems I have had, have, however, been massive. My copies of DaP 30 never left the warehouse, then supposedly got refused at my house or some bs that never happened, and 4 months and change later, I finally did get my 2 copies with bonus disc. I didn't and don't care that those and the 2 DaP 36s will be from a small other batch, I just want my stuff. And I don't see why 4 months seems like a decent fix to an easy problem. And here I will make a suggestion that would have mellowed me out for months without worrying so much about when they were going to send me my stuff: send those of us waiting for it an mp3 download link, so we can at least listen to it! How hard would that be? If you screw up 300 orders and don't want 300 irate customers, toss them a bone. Don't make us feel like we're hounding you via email. Dr Rhino was called in late in the game on that DaP 30 fiasco, and he's the one that got me my stuff, and it seems like he made it happen in less than a month. I cc'd him very early in this one, and it seemed events were controlling him with the warehouse not seeming answerable to anyone. I know COVID has made all facets of life exceedingly difficult for everyone except hermits who live in caves, and the USPS has disgraced its former glory (the very fact you could send shit across the country for literally pennies and have it there in a few months to a few weeks to a few days made people think it's easy to do it, but they knew how to do it so efficiently that people only notice when something is late or lost), but other companies are able to fulfill their orders in a timely fashion even despite all of those factors. And I will also note having received 3 orders from dead.net placed since DaP 36's release, one from the Thanksgiving sale, DaP 37, and the DaP 37 glass and shirt. So, they could take and fulfill some orders, but not DaP 36, and couldn't give an actual update. If it's gonna be 4 months to get a new smaller batch made and sealed up and shipped out, so be it. Tell me and I'm good with that. If not quite "good", more I can deal with that a lot better than getting shined on. And perhaps in juxtaposition to my query at the beginning of this long paragraph, this is why the stuff that is unlimited and dead.net sends to Uncle Jeff, I will happily procure from Uncle Jeff, get free shipping, get it closer to release date, and lock in probably a cheaper price. Because somehow Uncle Jeff can fulfill not only that order, but millions of others. I just want a happy medium...

    Rant over. Oh, and ironically DaP 30 was the last listen to Dead. Moved from that to String Cheese 3/15/00 with the one and only Joe Craven guesting all over it, and killing it as Joe Craven does on a variety of instruments. Seeing him play Lonesome Fiddle Blues with Vassar Clements and Larry Keel and David Via and Curtis Burch was one of my top musical moments. The guy can fiddle as well as anybody, plays mandolin as well or better than his former bandleader, the Dawg himself, and is one of the most inventive percussionists out there. Cheese let him just do his thing for half the show. Incredible. That 1/2-3/70 was damn good, too. :)

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    when was June 76 announced? release date was 3/20/20, according to Wikipedia.

    there are many things to do, consider, think about in this life and world

    but what I really wanna know is...

    what's in the new box???

    if I at least knew the year...or years...

    the suspense is killing me (so to speak. isn't there a snippet of Jerry saying that at the end of So Many Roads release?)

    Meanwhile, 5/10/78 plays

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Dick 36,,,,, real gone :-(

Left a notify me if it comes available,,,,, ha ha ha

ebay has one,,,, sold 290

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Ive been staying on top of this release! I bought myself one copy! I am blown away by how quick that sold out! Unfortunately to a lot of scalpers im sure. I saw all these websites doing preorders before the actual company that was selling them were actually selling them, and also real gone music had it " sold out" at first glance but it had never been available, idk it all seems like marketing scams, i got myself a copy at listing price, but i had to be on it like a hawk!

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Real Gone did email about Dick's 26 when they found another batch, and I like their 2 per customer limit, and that probably some people did abuse that and will see their order refunded. Just hope you're quick to that email. I missed that second batch of DP26 because I was checking out while riding in the back of a car in the backwoods of Florida, and just as I hit submit (after inputting my CC number one time already and submitting), I lost signal and didn't regain it for several hours at which time I lost it to someone else. I hope you get an email soon, and are able to snag one.

Really love this show, and especially glad they included the massive Folsom Field filler. (The inclusion of which raises the question of whether a potential vinyl version of DP 13 would include the hidden Scarlet Fire from 11/1/79, and whether it would be hidden, because it's 35 minutes, an entire LP!)

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Anyone else not receive their order? I'm a yearly subscriber and never received the cd's. Tried contacting and haven't had any luck.

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I got the email around 1pm but didn’t actually see it until around 6pm.
That’s OK because I had decided that it wasn’t a must have but that I might buy it if it didn’t sell out immediately.

It should have been limit 1.
Clearly resellers cornered the market on this one.
2-28-69 vinyl is still available (I don’t know what the production number was), so we’ll see where the resale price for DP36 vinyl is in several months.
Demand may not be as great as the resellers think.

Also, if you do want vinyl, 6-17-91 is under $75 now.

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....I better pick some winning lottery numbers.
I still have all my vinyl from my 13-24 years old of being alive. There's a lot. I know me too well to dip my body in that again.
I want to visit Europe one day

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I was lucky enough to see Bunny and the Solomonic Reggaestra open for String Cheese Incident's first Red Rocks show in '99 I think. I love old Cheese and was overjoyed at being there for their backyard throwdown, but Bunny crushed it...

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And now, rockers, back to our regularly scheduled programming................

50 years ago today………………

March 3, 1971
Fillmore West, San Francisco, California

Set 1: Casey Jones-Hard To Handle-Playing In The Band-Loser-Me And Bobby McGee-Next Time You See Me-Beat It On Down The Line-Bertha

Set 2: Me And My Uncle-Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Wharf Rat-Sugar Magnolia-King Bee-Greatest Story Ever Told>Johnny B. Goode

Encore: Good Lovin'

The Dead opened and closed March with home town shows, one of which bordered on genius, while the other often fails to inspire. Let the listener decide which is which…….

Even a lesser light shines brightly on occasion, and this is no exception. There could be more grease, the Other One has its moments, and getting a Good Lovin’ encore is always nice. The original commonly circulating soundboard was sonically lacking, but the remasters released late last year are actually fairly listenable. And worth a listen they are, especially if you like the pared down, raw power of the quintet………….

Not a classic, and maybe not even “second tier”, but still…………….

Rock on!

Doc
Where we love is home - home that our feet may leave, but not our hearts……

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I'm hovering on this one-only due to the price. But when I think of all the money I've saved in the last year not going to gigs , and going out with friends - even buying newspapers, I think maybe I should treat myself. Again.

As to whether The Dead are best heard on vinyl or cd-that's down to all sorts of factors-not least of which is imagination. And there is nothing wrong with that. I seem play the vinyl I have bought in the last two years or so much, much more than the cds I have bought in the same time frame. Maybe because I have less of it - maybe its a throw back to the 70s. I actually like the fact that the music is separated into 15-20 minute sections per side.

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"But when I think of all the money I've saved in the last year not going to gigs , and going out with friends - even buying newspapers, I think maybe I should treat myself. Again."

There, in a nutshell, lies the rationalization by which I've gained the 2021 subscription, presumably the 2021 box (note: without knowing what it'll be), and selections from Dylan, Hendrix, the ABB, The Band.

Send me to the poor house, baby, but at least we rocked!

With nothing but time on my hands, I also have been looking for deals on music. I wish Real Gone Music would reproduce bonus discs too. Not since I lived at home, way back when, have I owned a turntable. I would not even know how to make a wise stereo/Hi Fi turntable system, despite reading an occasional article; but, would love to have one and start buying vinyl. Over the years these vinyl limited releases have come and gone and now reside on eBay for Highway Robbery prices. The phrase "Missed the Boat" comes to mind!

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/68 yahoo

/71 is, like Doc says, not the hottest show ever. But sometimes a piece of chewing gum is ok, even though you want an entire pizza.

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This suggests otherwise to me:

Side H
1. Mexicali Blues
2. Dark Star

Side I
1. Dark Star (cont.)

Side J
1. Morning Dew
2. Beat It On Down the Line

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Winterland October 1974: The Complete Recordings

Multi-track recordings from 74 - the need is real, the time is right!

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DAVEROCK, I had to smile when you mentioned only getting 15-20 minutes per side of a vinyl L.P. I bought vinyl from 1965-2001 or so. But I started buying cds in the mid-'80's. When I finally made the (permanent) switch to cds only, I had about 4,000 L.P.'s and 2,000 45's. I can't believe that I used to get up EVERY 15-20 minutes to flip/change discs. Of course in the 70's I had a stackable turntable(so cool!!). And more than that, as a child, I had mostly 45's, so you're talking about flipping/changing discs every 3-4 minutes. It's hard to believe I did that. And of course, it was normal and therefore, did not seem like an inconvenience at all. I think maybe my one habit that would drive most of my music listening friends crazy is that for the last 10-15 years, I will play a cd ALL THE WAY through front to back. I'm not sure why, other than my OCD, but if the artist presents it like that, I assume they intended for me to hear it like that. My listening habits would drive most people crazy. But, that's the glory of, that's the story of, love(of music)!!

In case you haven't heard, Music is the Best!! Also, Bird is the Word.

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Not saying I'm gullible or anything..
Hendrixfreak - Dead right. My order is in, and my pockets are empty ( not quite). Much happier that way than if I'd looked and it had sold out.

Mr Ones...maybe that's why we were all so thin in the 70s, all that getting up and down changing records ! I like vinyl during the day, and cds at night/early morning, when I am more likely to drift off into the land of nod. Cd's for background, too. 3/14/90 has been playing while I made my meal, had it, and checked this site. Pretty good this second set sounds, too.

Maybe DaveRock is on to something- a mix of CDs and vinyl in your collection. The two biggest problems I have with vinyl is the cost - no chance you are going to lay out vinyl money to take a flyer on a band you may or may not like, just restrict purchases to Kind of Blue and American Beauty, etc, real desert island picks. The second one is sound, but that’s just me - I don’t have the George Martin/Brian Wilson ear for the nuance of sound, likely due to a life of concerts and music listening, but I always found the sound of CDs (on a decent system) to be great.

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Didn't set out to do this per se but got in a 74 mood and started with the February Winterland run where Jerry debuted the lick. He pulled it out on the first and second nights. That led to other selections from the year featuring the signature lick. The band ended the year as they started it with one on 10-20. All of the 74 Slipknot moments came in the midst of some serious jam material - you dig?

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Man, when I was married, briefly, 20 years ago, my wife wouldn't even go to a Red Rocks show. She referred to the music lovers as "those people."

Fast forward to the past 20 years and, for a while there, I was averaging about 8-10 major shows a year and a few bar and club bands each month. I also noticed that I had to get serious about CD storage...

And, gentlemen, here we are, making light of each other emptying our wallets to search for the sound. Kinda funny.

Vguy -- I'm probably "retired" from the big live shows because someday I'd like to "retire" for real! That said, I'll catch Tedeschi-Trucks at Red Rocks next time they play. In 2024, I'll have been going to Red Rocks for 50 years! So I gotta at least keep up that little habit. And, of course, banging the drum for further releases on this cult-like forum.

Just finished 6-19-76 while working out -- a great way to catch a full disc or so on an every-other-day basis. That early '76 jamming is almost slow-motion in a way, but supremely calculated at the same time.

It's a sunny day in Colorado and as of this Friday, I'm eligible for the vax.

"It's gotta get better in a little while..."

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Yes!

Was just listening to Winterland 2-22-74, the first show of the year. Love Jerry’s many Slipknot teases near the end of that tasty PITB.

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From a reliable source: "May 1977 - The Days Between" Includes: 5/2, 5/6, 5/10, 5/14 & 5/16

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Good call on 5-6. God the fat biking was nice here in WI today. Woo! Springfield '77 box it up with the Capitol! Oh yeah. :-)

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...if you believe it. Long live May '77 The Days Between! Toss up between 5-6 and 5-23-24 for me. That May '77 Dancin'>Frankin's>Comes a Time. Has to be heard to be believed...

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I am easily entertained.

First, that Mystery Science Theater 3000 clip is a gem. Hilarious. As for May 77, The Other, Other One I am stoked that we are getting a pristine box set from a wonderful year that somehow seems to not circulate. Way to go Dave, how did you manage to keep all this so secret. Can't wait for the seaside chat on this one.

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....and they hid them for so long because they were so good?
I'm slow sometimes.
Taking my tie-dyed foil hat off in 3,2....

The pistachio "story," I mean...

But not to worry! The inmates are rattling the cage for an announcement and even Bolo -- or someone with access to Bolo's account (!) -- has arisen from the covid fog to murmur sweet (totally) nothings.

I pray DL throws us a bone before we move on to the garbanzo bean jokes....

Does anyone ever wonder just how good Garcia would have been if he didn't have to push up his glasses just before they slipped off his face twice a minute.

I think he would have been Hendrix good, just sayin'

Rock on folks, be nice to one another.

Edit: Actually, I always thought he was Hendrix good.

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On the other hand, he might have channelled his energy into learning how to throw his guitar in the air, and sometimes catching it ! Maybe he was better as he was..

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Hendrix did what any savvy chitlin' circuit showman would do when he had the chance: show those white Brits a little under-the-radar soul spastics to get the room going. Then ... they expected it. And Jimi regretted that expectation when he had finally seized the spotlight and just wanted to stand there and play great guitar like ... Jerry or Roy Buchanan or Carlos Santana or ... etc.

That's what attracted me, or one of the things that attracted me, to the GD, Roy, et al. No showiness, just the music.

Gawd, all this posting and I feel like a snack. Let's see. Oh, maybe I'll have a few chili-encrusted pistachio nuts... NOT!

Just come out and blow our minds with music, not pyrotechnics.

Circles back to the discussion a few days ago about other acts having to grab the audience’s attention at the beginning.

I never paid attention to John Mayer before he joined D&C, but I wonder if it was an adjustment for him to come out on stage and just play. He did say before that he wasn’t used to not talking to the audience.

I have a bag of Sam’s Club pistachios, they’re pistachio flavor, not chili.
How about wasabi covered pistachios?

And where’s that Box Set announcement, Dave?

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I saw a funny home video of a racoon sneak up to a bowl near a front doors and eat a wasabi pea. Next the racoon was upright on its back legs while furiously brushing his jaw and mouth with both front paws as if to say ew, ew, no, no ,no!

Racoons, oh the irony, have a very Ninja like appearance too.

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Advice requested from seasoned CD orderers. I ordered this CD in late January and a few days later got an email saying congratulations, that my order had shipped, with an order number and a tracking number for UPS. But the tracking number they gave me never corresponded to anything in the UPS system. I emailed CS and they said sorry about that we will re-ship it and send a new tracking number. Then nothing. I tried following up, but nothing. I tried the priority email, and got a canned email saying they were too busy to give me a personalized response.

I'm just worried that if on their end their computer is saying that the order shipped and there is a tracking number to prove it, and there is nothing they can do about it. Covid, baby. And I'm looking at the tracking number that doesn't correspond to anything in the UPS system that this is a Mexican stand-off (can I say that?) that may never get resolved.

Is there any way to get a human that cares about this? any other ideas. If someone were to tell me I wouldn't get it for several months, but I would get it, that would be fine. Thank you for reading.

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This is an entertaining documentary:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=seattle+choir+movie&docid=60800865…
It's about a Central District choir from Seattle, in one interview the manager says "Really, of all the musical talent in the Seattle Central District, this guy (referring to Jimi) is the one who made it. THIS GUY, he was a bum."

This has been a subject flogged to death, but my take.

I think you get a notice saying "shipped", when dead.net processes your order. But, the items still needs to be sent to "ups mail innovations", once the item is there UPS makes a shipping label, then UPS will ship item via some secret routing method that is know only to those who understand logistics. Eventually it will be given to the USPS, who will get it to you the next day. I also think ALL movement thru UPS stops completely on weekends.

So your stuff will get there someday, just not when one thinks a reasonable time has past.

My latest 45 was "shipped" on 2/23,,,,, tracking number is useless. USPS is still waiting for package from UPS.

Finding the same problem with "Merch Mountain". "Shipped" doesn't mean it's been "Shipped",,,,,, just the process has started!

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Thank you. I know this is oft discussed, I just never experienced it before. I will refrain from suggesting how things ought to work. Managing expectations would seem to be the minimum requirement for good customer service. Best, Mark

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It just means that your name and address were entered into the computer program that prints shipping labels. It doesn’t mean that a label was actually printed, or that a printed label as actually attached to a package for shipping. It certainly doesn’t mean that your package actually shipped.

Get the UPS and USPS apps on your phone and enter the tracking number. It will probably say ‘waiting for package’, but at least when UPS gets a hold of the package you will know.
Then a few weeks later USPS might get a hold of the package, and eventually the package might arrive at your house.

Not a well-oiled machine by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, more like a broke down rusted out piece of junk.
But does Rhino/GD care?
Not at all, because they already have your money and have no motivation to send you what you have already paid for.
It’s pretty much a huge scam.
Look at how many people never received a DaP36.

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