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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #851
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    Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
    After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
    Cheers

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    I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

    I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

    As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

    That's all I have for now.

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    Ok, back to Europe

    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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    Agree..

    Can anyone tell me why we did not get a Winterland '74 Box Set? The box design would, of course, been a mini Wall of Sound.

    Wars have been fought for less.

    Oh, the horror.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 03/24/2021 - 13:29

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 03/24/2021 - 15:20

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Mountain Standard Time. “We’re picking it good in Mountain Standard Time.” Mission Mountain Wood Band

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 03/24/2021 - 19:10

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Okay, on it Jim. Most likely will have to finish up tomorrow. Been kind of a crazy day.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 03/25/2021 - 09:25

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I'd consider this on par with the Philly Dave's Picks recorded later that week. Highlights are a smoking Let it Grow and they continue the fun into the second set with a fine Help/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower, the Slipknot! being particularly tasty.. then Morning Dew out of Space and the rest is formulaic for 1984.

Anyway.. a friend got me to revisit this and since I was there.. it brought back some really good memories.

The parking and camping scene at Merriweather was really quite amazing, I cannot believe they pulled that off. We used to walk to the shows there, it was about a 20 minute walk from my parents house. This would be last year I lived there, but I did make sure to visit my parents when good music came to Merriweather. I also recall that year my circle of friends had grown from high school to college, so we had guests that week.. some sleeping in the basement, a few under the pine trees out back and at least one tent.

I think of all the Grateful Dead shows at Merriweather, 1983 was the most fun and downright frightening during the storm, 84 still had a lot of steam and the sound in the venue was both louder and clearer.. these shows had some energy right out of the gate with a Casey Jones opener the night before. The tapes for 84 are considerably better than 83 and the tapes from 85 are considerably better than 84. 85 was the most polished with that Shakedown street people talk about. After 1985, the SMACF people held a big meeting and voted to eliminate the Grateful Dead in Columbia (SMACF = Suburban Mothers Against Crazy Fun) . Another venue in the long list of places the Dead could no longer play in. Sad as it was a cool place to see the boys and I think they liked playing there too.

It didn't stop the Garcia Band from doing a couple shows there in 89, both released and really quite excellent. I could be wrong, but I think they axed the Garcia Band after those shows, the reaction something like... "I thought we outlawed those hippie shows, what are they doing back here again?" What seemed to get the greatest reaction was people both bathing in the water fountains that decorated the suburban mall across the street and I think someone decided it would be a good idea to put some bubble bath into the water pool that fed the fountains at the same time. Something like that made the paper and had everyone talking about the rainbow colored invasion.

Well.. that's all I got, I don't have terrific detailed memories, but I know I enjoyed the ride. Back to your regularly scheduled Phil Bombs and cracking plaster.

3/24/71: ...awright had some good moments, guess I was a bit preoccupied when that was on.
6/27/84: First was good but a bit of a sleeper?
Second set was awesome cept for the “formulaic” ending. Really dug the H/S/F and of course the Do It In the road, though interestingly brief and you could tell some of the band didn’t know it as well. Must of been quite the surprise!
It’s crazy how loud the crowd was even on a SB...Merriweather, yasss unfortunate they couldn’t keep playing there.
Big fun in 85 and those JGB shows, though they and the scene was of course much more mellow. Remember being stunned at all the houses/condos? that had been built where the back lot used to be.
Remember that fountain in 85 at that mall where I found my First EKU 28 beer. Think we used the mall rest rooms for quick hobo baths? Wish we would have gone in 84 but wasn’t quite going that far for shows yet...
Good pick, another fine show we might not have gotten to if not for POTDWD...

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No commented on my list so what’s it going to be then...?

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 03/25/2021 - 11:42

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OB: We did 1982-08-06 on 1/5/21 & 1978-11-20 on 11/20/20, but the other's haven't come up. I'm always down for August '72 and my arm can be twisted for the other stuff ;)

Dig the Merriweather show, fan of '84, and it has a "Rippin'" Cumberland!
First WDWDIITR.. Jerry split haha.
Cool that you were there Jim, and right next to home, that's awesome.
Nice job on the memories. I remember you mentioning not being able to remember stuff, but sounds like you're doing pretty good ;)

Speaking of Memories, I had a flash listening to 3/24/87 yesterday, the Miller Ultra sounds dope on headphones BTW, during Terrapin when the roar of the crowd is so intense it gives you chills, I remembered as I was listening, part of the reason the crowd was going so crazy was because Candace Brightman was killing on the lights. She had it totally dialed into to what was happening, and EVERYONE was so into it, all of it, but the lights were helping us all reach Terrapin!! And we did.

Far out, this music really does help you time travel.
I'd totally forgotten about that, but for a moment there yesterday, I was back in the spaceship.. peaking!

Now what's it gonna be OB.. 1972?

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Very nice people..

and so 8/21/72 begins, I'm off to the Promised Land.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 03/25/2021 - 19:12

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One of my favorites... but it's a bit late for me to dive down that rabbit hole. Perhaps tomorrow...

Since the BCT 72 shows were not released as a box set, I say we demand Dave release the Fox Theatre St. Louis run as a box.. it's only fair.

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I started a go fund me.. We should have your bail ready by the hour. We sincerely hope that helps and opens up your listening opportunities.

Fresh out of prison on six dollars bail..

So the ball is in your court for what we will be listening to tomorrow, OroB. Choose wisely.. (that trick never works)

Been having a really rough week all.. send some good vibes my way. Wrecked my kayak and tweaked my shoulder doing a trick move in the Suez Canal. I have that stuck, sinking feeling about it all.

What a crazy world we live in.. thank god for smoldering music.

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actually fresh outta the mental institution but still an overwhelming urge to throw things ; )
Rut ro, broken Kayak! No Bueno, the seasons just starting....sounds like a good excuse to get a new, upgraded version. “Hey Maaaaaaa...” careful with that paddle Sydney!

GOGD: thought those sounded familiar ; )
I guess that’s why those dates were scribbled on a scrap of paper.
Stump the panel? NOT!
Perhaps 7/7/81 or 4/9/82 mañana?
I’ll try and do some scouting this weekend for more off the beaten path stuff...

But first, it’s time for 8/21/72! Haven’t met this one yet, stoked....did someone say 72 Dark Star whoop, whoop!
ONWARD!

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Half way through. Sounds great but seems a bit down on spunk probably due to pig being sick.

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Submitted by stone jack baller on Fri, 03/26/2021 - 12:21

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Has anyone noticed that only Jerry's vocals are on the 8/21/68-Set 2 vinyl LP released in January....as opposed to all vocals on the Miller transfer?

Has this been discussed already?

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Uploading 3/25/83 & 3/26/83 from relisten for a run through memory lane or motel if you will. Was at Compton not Aladdin. Add two days of Santa Fe in September 1983 for a 3 GD year. Just leave me the 3G.

That's funny you mentioned that. I noticed it the other day, but hadn't compared the two yet.

It sounds weird on the release with just Jerry fo sure.

Wonder what's going on there.

Yea, ain't it something. I believe this is only the second time I listened to this show. I was hoping the whole run would receive official release status.. but.. anyway, I was miffed at the bailed Morning Dew on the first go around. I enjoyed it much more this time, they created some space and took things to some interesting places in the time between the failed MD and El Paso. It's a unique piece of music, most enjoyable.

Proudfoot mentioned 6/16/74. Earlier this week I finally broke apart the Wall of Sound Road Trips and spliced in the best recording I could find of the missing songs and made two complete shows out that Road Trips (6/16 and 6/18).

Having some fun with polyurethane and epoxy.. I could use a cold beer and a musical adventure. I think I am going to slide right into that one as the sun goes down.

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Not sure I’ve ever heard such an obvious attempt at a segway get so blatantly shut down lol
JG doesn’t just tease or hint, he totally just starts playing it, and continues to do so, but Phil’s like nope, we’re not going there, here, have some power cords instead! Pretty cool!
Great show, and man, for streaming it sounded really good!
Need to do the 8/24/72 one of these days...72 Daaaark Staaar !

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that aborted MD pissed me off

I think you can hear something similar on 8 27 72. Not as obvious, but still a hint

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Big fun in 85, yass yas yes, if memory serves me that was just after the '85 Hershey show, the "a bit much" of that powder in the 'shroom soup fixings ,ahem ah woop woop, for the serpent..
yes we were singing " ashes ashes Pierre falls down" he he, I never had such a hard time finding my car, as that night, and they, err we all, were using that fountain as a hobo bath, in Merriweather as, I recall, the office workers staring out, the horror, oh the horror, I enjoyed my first "Keep on Growing" that fine evening...

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Is this thing on?

Oberon is in the house. We made it to Spring.

Everybody hang loose.

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....one could say, I was Dozin' To The Knick.
Vegas Golden Knights bounced back with an impressive win.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 03/27/2021 - 16:55

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Excellent choice, DVikes. A couple years ago I reorganized the Nick shows so I had three complete shows in the correct song order. I have not listened to it since I did that, probably not since I got the box.

Who was laying down those fat saxophone growls in Wang Dang Doodle? I thought it was Jerry at first but I don't think so.. Brent? Bird Song, Let it Grow, Eyes and Black Peter provided the goods. Tasty and a great pick for a productive Saturday afternoon.

Hope you all are having a good weekend.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 03/27/2021 - 23:06

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In a sea of unbelievable shows, for me this one always sticks out a little more. What a first set. The Touch is great. I love Wang Dang Doodle. Jim, I always thought that was Jerry with the Midi? But of course I could be wrong.
Never Trust a Woman. Such a good Brent tune. While listening to this song recently I always think about getting to ring that Bell. Close with a Bird Song, Let in Grow, Wow! And than there is the second set. Check it out, I won't say anymore.

So much great music!

How about a Spring 1990 MUATM for this year? Let's do it.

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I’m currently experiencing the aftermath of too many Oberons.
But they taste so good.

3-28-73 DaP16
It’s got a Cumberland!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 03/28/2021 - 10:34

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You guys always pick the good stuff when I’m too busy lol...well it’s ALL good, but I mean favorite stuff or stuff that as soon as I see it I go oooooo!
Yeah, haven’t drawn from the 90 well in a while and DaP 16 is perhaps my fav, SCOOBY DOO! Woof!
I’ll have to get those in later and/or tomorrow, which of course means I’ll fall even further behind lol.

Conekid: remember, nothing comes for free ; )

More Merriweather....does anyone remember the carton/artist that used to be in I believe the Golden Road?
He did one about the Fire on the Mountain jam late after the first night of 85.
BOO, do you remember? We were there with our coolers on a strap...It was a big jam/guitar/drum circle that at some point started in on Fire and went on forever. If my memory serves it was sorta up on a little hill way up in the back lot, and it went on until sunrise which was awesome! It was so cool he did a cartoon about it.
Perhaps not as good a jam as with Prezman (when he got a little Faith lol) and the Jethro Tull flute guy at 84 Toga, but quite the night! And yasss, yass, yass chilrens careful with that magic shroom dust Lol, and as lost as you were trying to find the car, it was all I could do just to follow you at that point lol. Still think I have some blown circuits pzzzttt from that night? I remember you guys stoped at like a Wendy’s and I had to sit in the car with my face stuck to the window, still literally crackling Zzzztttt, and was cognizant enough at one point to see this wide eyed little boy staring at me with fear in his eyes lol. The four of us ended up getting a room that night partially cause it was pouring, and you guys just sorta propped me up in the corner while I kept crackling fffzzzzztttt...Was that Hershey Dew perhaps not the best Dew you ever saw, I’ve never lined em up back to back but I’m sure it’d be a top pick, a real Bobbie Dazzler fo sure!
Also will never forget 89 JGB shows where I had one of the best veggie chili’s ever after the first night! Been trying to copy it ever since!
Hey Jim, did they let us camp there in 89? I think so but am not sure? I know they kicked us out pretty early after the second night.
Fuggin’ cops everywhere leaving after the second night....found out later Bush was nearby for some reason?
Got pulled over for nothing on the pike heading to Philly for the next show...totally because of profiling, KOONT!
Took what few stickers I had on the ole Orange Canoe off after that.
Young Doogie Houser pos...tried to fuck us six was from Sunday, luckily old vet cop came along and told him to stop etc. Little dumbass didn’t know who he was dealing with as we were road gods back then!
Ah, mammeries, misty water color psychedelic tie dye mammeries...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 05:21

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It's a conspiracy, OB. You should see all the PM's.. they are trying to schedule Skeletons from the Closet the next day we know we have you.

I didn't get to the Scooby house yet, but I have been doing a better job of keeping up lately. Perhaps today.

As usual.. my memories are a bit hazy, but I am pretty sure they passed an ordinance where you could not camp overnight there anymore. Plus.. it was primarily GD shows that had the biggest camping pull.. Did the JGB ever get that kind of treatment? I do not remember the Golden Road artist either, I tried in vain to figure it out. Good to hear your tales of old.. may they come again, if not to us then the next wave of good people.. It seems like there was a golden time up until the late 80's where people were mostly well behaved and we got away with a lot of free and fun behavior without too much consequence. Unfortunately the draw was so big and eventually unsavory characters seeped into the scene which signaled it's demise. It sure was fun while it lasted. I should have seen more shows!!! Well, at least we have the tapes...

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Submitted by unkle sam on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 08:24

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RIP This guy played for/with so many different bands and styles, brilliant. First time I heard of him was on a little feat lp, very cool, named one of my cats after him.
It seems every week or month we loose another one of our favorites from the past, time is catching up to us all. I have great memories, just need a little more time, just a couple more spins, so glad we made the memories we have as those times are gone, I miss them so and will always say to you all "shall we go, you and I while we can....." time flies so fast.

Thought I had that Merriweather Fire on the Mountain cartoon somewhere, but couldn’t find it in the vault?
My initial thought was it was a Sinkers by Mike Swartzbeck, but those seem to be in Relix. Golden Road has some by Bill Fitts that might fit the bill? But now I’m unsure? My gut says The Sinkers, which it could be Relix and not Golden Road as its been a long time...I’m positive that there was a cartoon commemorating that fine night and jam at sunrise specifically mentioning Merriweather 85 but I can’t seem to find much about either artist etc.
unfortunately I only have a couple of Golden Roads and perhaps a half dozen Relix and it’s not in there.
I have more Almanacs but I did not go through them as I don’t think that’s where I saw it?
Damn, this is going to drive me nuts now lol
Sounds like a job for McGruff er a GOGD!

despite the S>F reference...I do not want to be in that crud.

Last year's wildfire smoke...no no no

the music I have on now...Swans' Public Castration Is a Good Idea...goes good with the visuals of China's sitch

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 15:06

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listening to 3/24/81

the opening has that "the tape deck is eating the tape!" sound

after a few moments of that it smoothes out

energetic show

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 03/29/2021 - 15:36

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Ha.. so funny. I like that moniker.

I’m with ya PF! 6/20/74, don’t think I’ve heard that one yet, so yeah, why the hell not!

What can I say about 3/28/73...sigh.
Great googly moogly what a show!! It’s got a:
Sweet HCSS
WRS prelude
Awesome Dark Star
Killer Eyes
A PITB closer! (Ireally like in that spot)
and if that’s not enough;
Wave the flag
Loose Lucy
Funky TLEO
Race Is On
You Ain’t Women Enough...AND.....wait for it, it’s got a Cumberland opener!
One of my favorite Dave’s, hell this bad boy is one of my favorite shows period!

And then to get caught up I followed with that nice smooth 3/25/90. Oh, BTW, totally JG playing the Wang Dang Sax!
And man as good as Scooby do sounds, when that Multitrack goodness came on after...holy Toledo Bat Man.
Talk about a one two punch...a very grateful day indeed!
Ok, @+#=$% slackers (just kidding ; ) PF and I are going to Atlanta baby!
ONWARD

EDIT: cool, now we got ole DV with us too!
DBL Edit: 3/28/73...and of course Strider was there! Wow, that boy seems to have a knack for being in the right place at the right time lol

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 08:44

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Not as many 'ghosts' as you might think. Some of us – me for sure – are usually just 'mutes' soaking up the great tales and fascinating perspective from folks who were actually "there" and know of what they post. THANKS! Onward!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 09:08

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....it seems I've never listened to this show either. First time for everything!
Eyes -> Slipknot! Jam -> China Doll sounds delightful.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 09:26

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I think i have said this before but this was one of those 74 shows that never circulated in tape trading days!! Bobt

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 09:53

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Hee-hee,
Like moths to the flame, albeit a groovy psychedelic multicolor flame ; )

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 10:08

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Out of '74!

I saw that the guy who did the voice of McGruff ended up getting busted with weed & guns.
Life is stranger than fiction some times.

Enjoying the memories and the stories.
OB - '85 always gonna be a little wistful that I didn't start seeing the boys a year earlier.
I wasn't ready at age 15, but man... I would've caught a Cryptical!!
Thank goodness for the tapes.

And on that note, I'll dust off 6/20/74.

Good Stuff!