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    Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

    The town crier's addendum:

    Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    thx JimInMD

    Jim - thx for your empathy. I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but we've ALL been hearing about the cluster bomb that is customer service at Dead.net and they just don't seem to care enough to fix it.

    As for your comment "when your CD was returned it probably went back out to someone else that had their order completely flubbed up" - I agree that's a likely scenario, but that means they fixed one situation by screwing up someone else's order - mine. Then ignored my repeated requests to fix it for 3 months.

    Not worth all the aggravation. If you're taking my money but then make me fight tooth-and-nail to get the product, then you're not getting my money anymore.

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    I'm sort of in the same boat, thin. I'm not defending them and have about the same information as you (a black hole) but I get the feeling there are significant warehouse issues behind much of this. It's likely the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing and this Dave's Picks had something significant happen (thinking damage, theft or the like) so when your CD was returned it probably went back out to someone else that had their order completely flubbed up.

    Again not an excuse you are right to be frustrated and it's fine to voice that frustration here and let off some steam. You have my sympathy. They do read these threads, hopefully things will get better.

    I suspect there are more out there like Mike that are scratching their heads and pondering go forward options.

    Wishing everyone a good week.. the days are beginning to get longer and as much as I am enjoying a good winter here in the Mid Atlantic, I can begin to see and smell spring right around the corner. Hoping to get my #37 perhaps as soon as today.

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    Sun Ra Arkestra...

    ...have had some lineup changes in their long and storied career. They were still going up to 2020, after their inception round about 1956. Now under the direction of Marshall Allen, a joyfully anarchic sax player over 90 years old.

    I came across them by accident supporting the MC5 about 20 years ago. After the 5's set, the Arkestra returned to the stage and both bands made merry hell together. If the damned were screaming, it was impossible to hear them.

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    Just A Thought

    I wonder if Dave L. realizes that people are considering not subscribing again because the customer service is so poor?

  • Thin
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    "That Mike" - thx

    Thanks - I hear ya. I have SO much - like, everything. I certainly have enough where I can listen to tons of shows without being redundant. I've always re-upped my subs and gotten the boxes as a reflex/inertia, but I really don't NEED any more after this year's subscription expires. Lord knows I have enough to listen to, and have plenty of other hobbies to spend the money on. CDs are a fading format anyway.

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    An interesting entry. I’m thinking Miles Davis went through a lot of band members, too, many still producing great stuff.

    Thin - sorry about the cluster bomb at getting you your righteous numbered copy of DaP 36. I decided that after this year, I’ll likely not subscribe any more, way too many hassles at even getting a response. We’ve all dealt with a great many other retailers, and when something goes awry, they are great at taking responsibility and making it right. Besides, I love the Dead, but I have enough to last until I’m Dead, and there is a ton of other music out there. Good luck, I hope it comes soon.

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    Update on delinquent DaP36

    So after throwing my toys on this board (re: 3 months of non-responsive customer service), I received a few nice comments/advice (and other constructive thoughts) from y'all, and I sent an email to Dr. Rhino/customer service (in addition to my 3 previous mssgs to dead.net). Dr. Rhino responded "Unfortunately, our warehouse has run out of numbered replacement stock. We will now produce a small/limited-edition run of separately numbered replacement copies of Dave’s Picks Volume 36. We will email you with an update as soon as we have an estimate as to when your replacement shipment will go out."

    I appreciate that they are creating an un-numbered mini-run of these shows for people who didn't get 'em. But I find it insulting that 1) my returned disc "disappeared" - my name was on the package! You wouldn't NEED a 2nd run if you hadn't unwrapped my labeled package and given it to someone else! and 2) they seemed fine with me just not getting it until I made a public nuisance of myself! Alarming that an organization whose business acumen is the subject of college curricula reveal themselves to be so dismissive of their customers/fans who are bankrolling them. Though I am appreciative that they are finally addressing my situation.

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    Dave's drinking glass....

    .....mine has said label being created for 4 days now. It will probably show up tomorrow lol.

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    Ive got 50 of the big boxes, all cd, and most of the 3cd releases.
    Favourites change all the time, but Andrew Hill, Sam Rivers and Larry Young get the most plays...
    Didnt subscribe to Daves this year, didnt even buy a la carte, Im done with ordering direct from Rhino, only got 2 out of 4 of my sub last year, so if I buy, it will be on the secondary market, but its interesting to read the comments, might help me make up my mind to buy or not to buy....
    But does this release add anything to the stature of the Dead? Or does it just lengthen their tail?

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    Yet another dedhed and the shipping blues

    No glass here yet, but I too got the bullshit letter saying it's ready (to be put in any envelope, eventually put on a truck and shipped around the world before it get here)

    Still waiting for my 45,,,, the last one, not the one coming out at end of month.

    Also still no word on download link for AB-AS!!!!

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

My home, billing and shipping addresses were the same. Still no Dave's 36.. but yesterday I got an email with a shipping notice. Makes me think they switched back to the old reliable EBike delivery system. I will be sure to get some spiced cider and cookies to give to MaryE as a delivery treat. Much like Santa.. I have no idea how she delivers all those CDs herself.. by bike. I hear on sunny days she likes to deliver by roller skate.

...Grab Yours self the Vinyl Format for a a special Treat Only Available for a special Tool For 2 ,
Oh yes,“SkullF___” “ 50 Year Anniversary Edition “ Announced, W Filler 7/2/71
w/ 7/2/71 filler on disc 2. Sadly its missing the JBGoode encore where Jerry announces "All right folks! This is the one its all about!"
Re/ Thin , have a grateful day everyone, be safe & Love Each other! Take care , be back soon! It’s MEDs Time!
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...here’s to Marye! Saluuuuttee!

Hey, at least now she’s got the ebike, back in the day she did it manually ; )

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If this problem persists, send me a PM and I'll see what the deal is.
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. . .. For Marye. Let's thank her for stepping up to the plate for us. It is frustrating getting defective discs and then silence from Dead.net. I would add that even if a replacement takes a long time that that is acceptable but the silent treatment is not. We all know that "Shit Happens" especially during these strange days and we should be patient with getting a replacement. Dead.net/Rhino could, however, release a simple statement that they are aware of the problem and that corrective action will be taken even if it is going to take quite a while.

Thanks again Marye.

As your senator from the great deadnet state of altered consciousness I hear by degree, that a amendment is hearby proposed naming April first as MaryE day from this day forward, in perpetuity, on earth as in Heaven amen.....ah, could someone pass the peas please...
Seriously, Dave, Pinkus, someone, we need a MaryE day!

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“Please Sir, I want some More”...Lol
RSD -Olympia Theatre, Paris, France, 5/3/72” [6-LP
... Rumor is it's the May 3rd show. That awesome Primo ‘Dark Star’ from the night before has become infamous among “Deadicated Grateful Dead DeadHead fans & collectors!alike, ’Dark Star’s Are ‘ very much sought after in the bands set list at performances, and then the fans started the ritual of spreading the word by mouth that the band would be performing one at every concert you attended, people started the “last ( how many days since last dark star banner s too, the last time dark star was performed “ if one attended a show at this time and had the treat to hear a new performance , they left the concert a different human being, you vacant take that to the bank!

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Has anyone noticed that only Jerry's vocals are on the 8/21/68-Set 2 vinyl LP released in January....as opposed to all vocals on the Miller transfer?

Has this been discussed already?

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All good things in all good time!

Great that you finally got a copy. Is it an original numbered copy or is it part of the emergency repress?

I sure hope it plays without skips etc.

Enjoy!

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10,393 of 22,000. It was an inconvenience, but I suspect something happened that might not have been within their control. Chalk it up to the cluster@@@@ that was 2020.

Thanks Doc Rhino and MaryE for not forgetting and making good on this.

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Awesome!

I don’t care what anyone says that Marye is ok! ; )

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I think that's one of the ones I mailed back to them. I should have just mailed it to you.

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Thanks mhammond. Acts like that prove humanity still exists.

Cold rain and snow here in the East for the next few days.. Might have to put something in the playlist with Here Comes Sunshine. Have a great west of the week folks. Keep on rockin'

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MHammond you made me spit up my adult beverage in guffaw.
Preach it!

Glad Jimmy Got 36 finally; here's to any others Still In The Lurch:
May there be an MHammond'y thought out there for you too!

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I'd listened to almost nothing but the Dead since April 2014. With the exception of some time to reflect on Rush after NP died last year, and to a lesser extent The Cars after RO died, nothing but the Dead was appealing. Then I was in a dark mood a few months back and took a week to indulge in Pearl Jam.
After DaP 37 showed up I was right back in the DeadZone.

I've always been a streaky listener; before the neverending Indulgence in the Dead, it was the Stones for 2 years.

This past week though, I've been revisiting everything and it all sounds so good...I'm still spending some daily time in the DeadZone, but it's significant that other music is sounding good again. I've been through The Cars, Live Who, Black Crowes, The Doors, Tom Petty, Jethro Tull, and now I'm up to Robert Plant. Pete Townshend on-deck.

I forgot how good Plant's voice still was in 80s. The 80's keyboards have held up well enough on Principle of Moments and Now and Zen. Manic Nirvana kicks ass in any timezone. Fate of Nations has some good tunes as well. Got me wondering why Plant had such prolific commercial success but Page did not. The Firm was a great record, but did Jimmy just retire or what? Never heard Firm 2 or Outrider. LedDed? Anyone?

Everyone deserves a hiatus.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Dark Star/Sugar Magnolia/Caution. The Grateful Dead. You can check out, but you can never leave....

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Yo!!! Rockers!!!!

And so it begins. Fifty years ago today. Acid Month. Twenty shows in twenty-six days, culminating in the fine, final Fillmore East shows of April 25-29, 1971. With stops at Franklin & Marshall College, Bucknell University, Allegheny College, Princeton University, SUNY-Cortland, and Duke University, the Dead do their best to promote “higher education”. Winning new fans, perhaps baffling some by playing lots of things that hadn’t been officially released yet, bringing their psychedelic Bakersfield roadshow to lots of impressionable young minds. Was it was the last great blast of the original quintet???

Good old Grateful Dead. Were they a rock band? The mutant offspring of Merle Haggard? Weren’t they a jam band in a previous life? What were they, exactly???

Acid Month is sonically very well preserved. Like a fine wine, now it’s time to pop the cork! If you need or want, here I is! And if you’d like some light reading material, you know where to find me……………

Gentle reminder----I never joke about 1971…………..LOL!!!!

Rock on!

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Thanks for posting that. I actually get Bass player from my former life and ment to post it but of course forgot.
Amazing how such a thing could go “missing”? Love geek shit!

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I think she has probably helped most of us at one time or another. For that I am very grateful. Where would we be without her. Never obtrusive, always courteous. 👍🏻🙏🏻

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Jim & Oroborous that was some funny stuff. I'm still smiling. My wife surely thinks I'm back on the sauce. I haven't heard that song since the days when I had to get up to change the channel.

It's the Spectrum '73 for me at the moment. Had to throw a '73 Bird Song in the mix. Sounds close enough to Full Norman quality.

P.S. I think I mentioned Uncle Gary here a couple times. He sent me The Orpheum 7/18/76 show from the radio broadcast. First time hearing it last week and it's wow....that would have been a good run to release as a box set. Hopefully we'll see this show released. Pretty sure DL said 7/18 was recorded on multitrack when DaP 18 came out. Jerry's soloing is off the wall.

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I tend to dive into subjects headlong, devouring multiple biographies, interviews, first hand anecdotes from those lucky enough to have met the subject, and of course, all the music. It's hardly possible with the Dead, but with Robert Plant for instance, my m.o. is to buy every official studio and live release and go from there. HendrixFreak talked of his methods with bootlegs, board tapes, etc. There's a ton out there if you're willing to find it with just about every established artist.

Robert Plant was able to reinvent himself commercially and stylistically with great success after the demise of Led Zeppelin. After the O2 show in 2007, I like many others (Jason Bonham included) was devastated that Plant would not resurrect the old warhorse for a proper tour.

He has his reasons, not the least of which, being his own man and sticking it to Jimmy for any one of a thousand slights. When Led Zep formed, it was Page's baby, he having financed and produced the first album and then basically leasing it to Atlantic for an exorbitant sum, retaining all musical and artistic control and receiving an unheard of royalty rate and worldwide distribution. Plant was unsophisticated and raw, a brilliant putty in Jimmy's hands in the beginning.

Peter Grant greatly aided and abetted in this scheme... Zeppelin were an incredibly decadent band of outlaws who pretty much owned the Seventies in every sense. It was not without it's mishaps and ugly scenes, hedonsim way out of control, but it was beautiful and magical and mighty as well as flawed, with an inherent dark side... and when it was over, all parties involved had to take a respite.

Page half-assed it with The Firm, Coverdale/Page and his Outrider record; he really only touched on past glories trotting about the globe with Robert for those few Plant/Page tours. He was and always has been a Zeppelin man through and through, the one true love of his musical life. Without Robert Plant, it just wasn't the same for him.

Plant on the other hand touched on numerous genres and succeeded brilliantly all across the board. His is a very fine voice, he's a very intelligent and gracious gentleman and he remains very hip. He has spoke of making "age appropriate" music, when one thinks of him during The Song Remains The Same at MSG, chest out and crotch thrust forward, wailing like a banshee, I suppose that was age appropriate at the time - but hardly so today. Along with emerging from Jimmy's shadow and that of Zeppelin, the man genuinely has a knack for inhabiting songs and making them his own with that inimitable voice and brilliant phrasing.

I could go on... Page never had the heart to put his all into anything Robert wasn't involved in, musically. Plant skillfully navigated his solo career and has always paid homage to Led Zeppelin without being constrained by it.

There are a number of Robert Plant solo albums that are absolutely brilliant that seemingly no one has heard of. Dreamland, Mighty ReArranger and Sixty Six to Timbuktu come to mind.

My two cents.

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My 10th grade English teacher lent me the first two CDs back in '87, and I was hooked from there on (even read Hammer of the Gods), but I haven't listened to them much in the past 10 years. I had huge door posters of Zep IV and Houses of the Holy.

I got to see Page / Plant twice. They were some great shows....but the O2 Reunion exceeded my greatest expectations. I bought the CD when it came out and couldn't believe how ON they were. I didn't look at the track list when I bought it; I didn't even put it on for the car ride home. I took a day off work, packed a bowl and listened to it end-2-end. Set list had some nice surprises. For Your Life - really? Mother f@#%ing game on! After that song ended I seriously thought I might get Carouselambra too (love that song - would love to hear Jimmy's isolated guitar track - it's so cool, but buried in the mix).

What you're saying about Page makes sense, thanks for the insights. I didn't know about the slights against Plant. And Page IS always the guy doing the box sets and remixes for the Zep catalog. I guess I didn't realize how much sway he had in the Zep days. I knew they emerged from his New Yardbirds and that he was their Producer, so yeah, I guess that would cause some tension, especially once Plant carved out his own legendary rock persona.

I bought Mighty Rearranger, Raising Sand, and Band Of Joy several years ago, but didn't listen much. To your point though, Harm's Swift Way is a cover that he made his own (in fact, I didn't realize it wasn't his own until I heard him interview about it).

Well, thanks - that satisfies my curiosity. On the surface I thought, how does a riff master like Page not have at least as equal a solo career as the the other song writer in Zep.

P.S. - what's with Peter Grant as Executive Producer on all the records? I thought he was the manager and the muscle. What kind of musical input was he responsible for? Or was it a ceremonial title?

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50 years ago today………………

April 2, 1971
Memorial Gym Kent State University, Kent, Ohio

Was this a cancelled show?

Link: http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/2009/11/april-2-1971-kent-state-univer…

Rock on!!!!

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Then haste, kind Death, in pity to my age
And clap the Finis to my life's last page.
May Heaven's great Author my foul proof revise,
Cancel the page in which my error lies,
And raise my form above the etherial skies.

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Jimmy Page also cropped up on numerous sessions for all sorts of artists throughout the 60s-from Tom Jones to The Stones. "Baby Please Don't Go" by Them and "Sunshine Superman" and "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan are a few of the best. In fact, I once saw Donovan, and Page came on to play for a few numbers. "Happening Ten Years Time Ago" with The Yardbirds is also a classic-with Jeff Beck, too, of course.
I was wondering the other day if Covid marks the end of the 60's. Too early to say-maybe Live Dead 69 will be back next year, and it will all start up again.

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Dave - Is it Page on Hurdy Gurdy Man? I have read names such as Jeff Beck to (the late great) Allan Holdsworth, Jimmy Page, and a few others were the guitar player on this tune. I really don’t know.

MaryE - Thanks for all the help to myself and so many others!

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The discussion on Page and Plant got me thinking...what are people's favorite solo albums by any of the great bands of the 60s? Zep, Who, Beatles, Stones, Floyd, etc.

I think mine is Pete Townshend's Empty Glass.

Anything Hendrix wins.
He was in other bands before he went solo.

Frampton Comes Alive seems to have worked pretty well for Peter.

I love Pink Floyd but Water’s solo albums are terrible. Gilmour’s first album is OK but the others are pretty weak.

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Yeah that ones a real Bobbie Dazzler! Perhaps my favorite 76 show!
Have a CD copy sourced from FM that I got at Amazon..
That’s the only reason I hope he doesn’t release it: have a good copy so I would rather he release something else I don’t have lol
Love how they make the quick/tight segways back and forth, in and out, and with the mini drum duets, good sheet mon!
We should all have a Uncle Gary 😉

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Thanks for all you do for us.

Hoping spring 2021 brings rays of sun & fun for all.

Dead.net is cool place.

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I was going to give a nod to Gilmour as well.

Steve Winwood gained far more popular success as a solo musician then when he was with Traffic. I just never liked music after he left the band.

If I could cheat a little bit, I would say Robert Plant with Alison Krauss and Mark Knopfler with Emmylou Harris are both great albums.

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This show really blew me away the first time I heard it & saw it on paper; I mean, that entire second set is one gigantic segue pretty much; in and out of multi-songs with some very fine transitions. I too acquired a knockoff version from somewhere I can no longer recall, but it's a very good copy. The hardest part though is trying to find the ideal spot to jump discs....given the interconnectedness of it all. Would still love to see this one officially released:

https://archive.org/details/gd1976-07-18.150187.pre-fm.miller.flac1644

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