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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1011
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    Yes, OB, the wonderful Winterland 77 box set, released in I believe 2009. I wouldn't tell you what I paid for it in 2015, but it wasn't the retail price of $99! June in my opinion is even better than May. Too bad Mickey got in a car accident.

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    Ok, DV, just for you ; )
    That’s in that WL box right?

    But it might take a few daze as I’m hoping to go full 73 box asap! (AND stream 3 D&C Boulder shows)
    Feel like it’s gonna get stranger….gonna be a long, long, crazy WE!

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    This one is for you OB. The middle night of a great three day run at Winterland. Often overlooked due to the other two nights.

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    Just about right...

    You summed that up pretty well.

    As for the night before, perhaps not as good but different. They opened the show with Casey Jones (the sixth to last time played), it was the third or fourth show of the tour and right off interstate 95, which in the mid 80's was practically paved with cocaine coming in Florida and making it up the coast. It was everywhere in 1984 (RIP Len Bias). Opening up the show with Casey Jones.. well, you know what was on their minds (and up their noses). I managed to make it to the first row for that one.

    A decent show with a high energy opener. Every now and again I get in the mood for some down and dirty mid 80's. They played some 68 show on SiriusXM yesterday while I was working on some house project, I think 10/12/68 at the Avalon and I was thinking what a garage band sound they had back then. By '72 they had cleaned up their tones and were anything but a garage band.., then the clean jazzy sound of 74, enter the Travis Bean era in 76 to the practically perfect band in '77, again far away from a garage band sounding GD.

    But by the 80's that garage band rawness had made it's way back into their sound, completely different but raw, crunchy and high energy.

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    Interesting, fun show.
    Ist sets good, but so so.
    The second they step it up.
    Got the Friday energy going here a little…
    Real nice H/S/F, status Estimated/Eyes, fun first Do it in the Road, Brentski feeling his oats several times this night.
    Phuching cool ass Alien landing spooky space into a nice trippy Dew. Imagine the Stones/NFA ender was still new enough, in fact Stones sounds like Bobs still working on it? Sweet Brokedown to send em home!
    At first I was kinda meh, but this one’s a creeper! By the end the audio was really good too, real clear vocals, and don’t recall Jer having any issues? Sequence from Road threw Dew was worth the price of admission alone!
    Sure it was even better in person. They seemed to always have some reaction with this place?
    Can’t recall if I’ve heard the previous night, but if it’s as good as the rest…

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    6/27/84 sounds good to me. Will get it going today.

    Had a blast at the MUATM show last night.

    If you are going on Saturday, I wouldn't ruin it for you, but I will say great show, June 91 was super hot.

    They had a cool short segment on the Here Comes Sunshine Box, can't wait.

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    Mañana
    I’m down, never been…
    Perhaps 6/20/83 SB does exist and is being stashed? (Hey why not lol)

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    Being in the pavilion helps.. but no soundboards exist for this show, guessing the machine got zapped when they lost power. The audience tapes sound decent though.. especially considering what they had to go through to make the tapes.

    Phil really gets into it during the second set. Was it thunder or was it Phil?

    Hope you all are doing well... another summer show perhaps? Since no ones thrown out anything how about another Merriweather, 6.27.84? Certainly off the beaten path.

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    Thanks for filling out that picture of the show in my mind Jim!
    How in the world did that taper keep his rig dry?
    I just picked the first one in the archive and the sound was pretty good.
    As Oro suggests a matrix of this should be released. I'd buy it for sure.
    Got so much more feel for the flow when you can hear the audience react.
    Cheers

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    Take a few days off from the boards here and this show pops up.

    For a few brief hours the heavens hid behind a torrent of darkness and mayhem the likes of which, well, tripping at least, the likes of which one rarely gets to witness and come through the other side unscathed.

    It might not come through on the tapes, but boy was that something to behold. The most fun I have ever had a Dead Show.

    I was going to hit 12/31/76 today which came up on the DaP 46 thread but that one will have to take a back seat to this. It's probably been 15 years since I listened to it. Any other storm I have seen of this intensity, I sought cover.. I got to enjoy this one with 20,000 of my closest friends, unprotected, outside, exposed.. many on the lawn.

    Lightning struck the top of the shed I think during Wharf Rat, but the storm was raging for most of the show. Bobby had to put down his guitar during Sugar Magnolia supposedly because he was getting shocked for fear of getting shocked. The storm was localized, but I do not recall a flood on the Little Patuxent River like this one even during some of the bigger hurricane type storms that have hit over the last 30 or 40 years.. at least across Route 29 where the venue sat. The walking bridge to the parking lot was gone, flooded away.. and the highway into and out of the show was under water and therefore closed.
    After the show they had did a hack job patch on the lawn as there were big ruts (mini canyons) where people were doing body slides down the hill (both fully clothed and naked), at first by accident later on purpose. After the second show they brought in the big equipment and had to completely resurface the lawn and the venue before shows could commence. It was destroyed by a dayglo infused bodies tobogganing down the hill. The lawn was like a big waterslide and where it met the pavilion it made a cascading four-foot muddy waterfall into the pavilion seating.

    It was like a four-mile hike from the show to my parents' house where most of us went afterwards. We had to wade across the floodwaters over the highway, the currents trying to displace us.. a few of the smaller people held hands to keep their balance. Picture that, coming down from mushrooms after a local dead show. That's my Grateful Dead kodak moment etched into what remains of my teenage memories.

    Big fun with the Grateful Dead.

    Oh, and the show, at least as I remember it, was high octane GD. A little rough around the edges typical for '83 but the band never wavered, they seemed to embrace the energy and just roll with it in perfect time with the storm around them. I'm clearly biased but I would call this a great show which does not come through on the tapes that circulate.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 10:55

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I hear ya, It was the same for me only in like 77/78. If they would of played locally I could of been on the Big bus a year earlier...such is life.
(Big bus being after seeing live, versus little bus being stuck listening in my teenage room wishing I could see them live!)
EDIT: Ha, think of poor Dave having to go all the way to Harshford with his Ma! Whatever it takes eh!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 11:40

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Awesome “sequence”, interesting Slipknot; JG and Kieth are super tight, but Phil and Bob sit out. Not exactly the kind of song you fake lol.
Sound was all over the place; sometimes great, sometimes things were over saturated...

Ok, who’s up for some extra credit?
How bout 7/7/81? Never have heard the first set, but the second set was a tape fav BITD.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 12:49

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weird

I had the first set on tape, but not the second

5/3/86 plays currently

"justajustajustajusta..."

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 18:05

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That bears choice 'Hard to handle' NEVER gets old.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 19:32

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Low and behold, my Dave's Picks 36 arrived. Long wait.. I had faith it would plop down on my front porch..,, eventually. Thanks to MaryE for the hand delivery.. I saw the EBike pull away.. pig tails flowing under the swirled, dayglow helmet. She turned to look.. and then was gone. Again, many thanks from all of us for all you do.

#1 of 22,000. My lowest number yet. Now I can finally read the liner notes. Wow.. apparently Dave was at this show, far out.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 21:26

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Great news Jim! Finally. Did they throw in some socks for the wait?

#1/22,000, Ha!

6/20/74, good show. Agree OB, the recording is a bit uneven, some parts great, others not as good. Overall B on the sound quality. Seemed kind of a short show for 74. Good pick PF.

Your 81 show for tomorrow OB?
Couldn't make it a two fer today. Hard to keep up with the overachievers.

Okay, so we have a month to go until #38.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 03/30/2021 - 22:37

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Just a coupon for a cup of free hot chocolate.

Edit: I like the socks idea.. colorful, plaid, rainbow or paisley.. I'm all in. Especially the electric kind that blend well with my Birkenstocks.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 05:21

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The first Feel Like A Stranger 41 years ago today. So let me throw 3/31/80 into the ring for today’s pick.
My one time to the Capitol Theater was 1972(?) to see NRPS. Dr John opened the show. Quite the rowdy audience, ha ha.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 06:33

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Glad to hear.

I like to think that TPTB will always make it right, in time.

At least you got a GREAT number!

.... and free socks? Must be those Balboa socks they always advertise on TV. For every pair you buy, you claim every sock that those socks touch and all the socks that those socks touch.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 07:49

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a good day

if you haven't heard it yet, Desolation Row > Birdsong is really good.

Far out... dug dusting off 6/20/74.
Ship of Fools sounding so good, man I dig Jerry's voice in '74.
And that Truckin' > Eyes > Slipknot! > China Doll. That's the stuff.
A bit under the radar, especially with all it's towering neighbors.
Speaking of... popped on 6/22/74 Bonus after and that kinda further proves why this 6/20 show might go unnoticed.
Damn!

Alright, you know it's gonna get Stranger huh Strider?

I'm hip for the trip to 3/31/80.

Hot Dog Jim them's some Hot shows in Hartford, love that '87 vibe.

OB I wish I could help with the cartoon.. but you got me.
Not familiar with it, but if you find it, I wanna see it and hear all the deets.

That's all I got.
So let's get on with the show!

Remember kids wood and catheters don't mix!

how bout.....

Woke up with some morning wood today.
Went to pee but the wood would not go away.
Went in the yard and water the plants this way.
When the water past, the wood it went away.

I know, sad humor,,,, if it were good, I'd be selling ice cream!

Love the wood analogies. Doing some home carpentry, so timely humor.

I gotta bump up 6/18 a notch though. One of the all time great Eyes of the World>China Doll and the WRS/TOO/It's a sin something..

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 15:44

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Decent show, good aud...another off the beaten path notch off the list.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 17:38

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So both of them there shows sound killer today.

Nice suggestions PF & Jim.
I'm in June '74 with the Wall of Sound and it's sunny outside.

And anytime you want to suggest a top 5 PITB, I'll take the bait.

Amazing how much presence Phil had in '74.

Edit: 6/16 & 6/18/74 that is.
(Oil that is! Black Gold, Texas T)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:06

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One of the great late era songs. I don't think I am alone in saying this tune made sense or had a calming effect on that point in the show where the ceilings and walls become liquid and there is at least a little concern that they might turn to goo and begin dripping down the sides of the coliseum/shed/theatre/area/stadium or wherever the hell you were when the shit really started to hit the fan.

And I love that song for that effect. It's going to be alright, now let's get on with the show.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:17

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Goodness.. as funny as I thought my last comment was, it will surely screw up my future run for Senate. In summary, Dr. Proudfoot, deadnet's most beloved scholar.

My edited post pontificated and expanded the meaning of the word Minglewood. Let's just let that post die a graceful death.

Night all.. this is a family channel after all???

Or is it?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 19:47

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4/29/71, 5/15/70, 12/30/79, I like a lot of the 1977 versions also.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 21:47

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I always like Stranger for an opener.

Just for the line... you know it's gonna get stranger...

I always label this in my mind as an "Electric" song. Versus China Doll I classify as a "music box" song.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 03/31/2021 - 22:08

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So many great minglewoods. 5/28/77 comes to mind as well as 10/3/87. But there are so many more. Always a rocker. And the version from Ladies and Gentlemen from April 71 lights it up.
Didn't this appear on Shakedown Street. All new minglewood blues.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 06:26

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with Dr. ProudFoot - 6/16 Playing is one of the greatest. love it love it love it. another favorite from that year is the first October night at Winterland, 10/16.

yes like a moth to the psychedelic flame of '74. that Omni show on 6/20 was new to me too, despite looking at the set list for years in my raggedy ass deadbase. listened yesterday and thought whole show was excellent. yep a little short for the year, some tape wobble and speed issues maybe set II. no matter. Trucking and Eyes were the bomb. Something about the Slipknot jam reminded me of a Celtic fiddle tune, which was not something I've ever associated Slipknot before. The China Doll was gorgeous. hopefully any tape issues can be ironed out for a release.

onward

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 08:13

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Today marks anniversary of my first show. 4-1-80 - Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ.

RAH!

Didn't know shit! It was all a blur. It was loud.

Knowing now what I know, I was very lucky to be at that venue, we had great seats on the floor in a small theater.

Pretty sweet way to start in April of 1980.

41 years ago!

Now if they would just give us a nice 1980 box!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 09:44

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That’s one hell of a start!
That should of been our pick...

STRANGER: always loved a good Stranger opener, especially if plugged in ; )
Like a second set song to open.

So do you think your taking my seat or VGUYS?
I relish the battle ahead, and a new breed of politics. Let’s start with that time you skipped a show to study for a test
Rrrrraaaaabnnnnnnnntttttt, (buzzer sound like when your wrong on a game show! ; )

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 09:56

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Nah, I picture him more like some weird lab rat assistant in a white coat who likes to test the potions, later, after hours, after everyone else has gone home ; )

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:00

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Isn’t that my good twin Oroboros first show? Where is that ole rascally rascal? We haven’t heard from him in a couple years! If your out there, hope your doing well amigo!
Perhaps Dr Proudfoot can conjure up some potion and summon him?

Wish Realgone would re-drop this one, one of the few I don’t have. But I do have the Bonus disk thanks to an unbelievably kind person here!! Thanks again Bra! Still can’t believe how generous that was!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:03

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Hhhmmmmm??? That would make a sweet box!
3 shows from each historic run....
Or is it another clue?
Or is it a fools errand?
Hmmmmmm???

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:36

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Alfred College
Alligator Alley Gymnasium
Aladdin Theater
Academy of Music
Alfond Arena
Alleghany State College

I think Bolo has officially announced the Alphabet Box Series and the end date for vault material releases.

Each year for the 20 (no venues starting with X, Q, Z,...) or so years we will get a box of all releasable shows based on the first letter of the venue, after the alphabet is completely exhausted.. all the worthy shows will have been released, Dave will retire and that's it. This is great news, the "A" box released on October 31st is going to be spectacular.

The down side.. I am going to be old as dust by the time RFK '73 gets released. An alternate box concept is the Everything Box where every show in the vault would be remastered and released as a giant treasure chest. (#StormTheVault #FeeTheReels)

Edit: The final box would be a three show box for Zoo Amphitheatre, 1981, 1982 and 1985.

As for my run for Senate.. My only shot is a devastating scandal followed by resignation.. so long as you two stay away from under age girls while crossing state lines, your seats are safe.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 10:51

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Glad you added the caveat “across state lines”....that was close!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 11:00

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It’s Marye day so remember to say thanks for all she does for us!
Perhaps everyone should send her a PM NOT complaining about missing product ; )
Or we should get her some batteries for her ebike...those things are costly!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 12:08

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Wholly guacamole batman!
New favorite PITB!
GOGD your Minglewood must still be fully engaged after this one!
"Give me T for texas, yes it's T for Timbuktu, T for piTb,
where the cool lil psychedelic hippie chicks know just what ta do!"

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 14:25

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OB: Followup that PITB with the Eyes > China Doll, WRS > TOO > Stella from 6/18 and you'll have all day Minglewood ;)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 14:52

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I have the good fortune of having been given a _bunch_ of CDs over the years. At the moment, I am listening to 5/10/69 (Rose Palace, Pasadena CA)

In addition to awesome music, there are some rather unique things that occur.

give it a listen sometime.

Gong Bong, anyone?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/01/2021 - 16:58

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Last summer, my son's Prius had its catalytic converter stolen.

three nights ago... my Prius' CC got stolen.

BASTARDS.

If I could get hold of 'em, I'd force feed the thieves brown acid and lock 'em in a room with a non-stop strobe light and nothing but Bobby Goldsboro's greatest hits on repeat.

Luckily, insurance covers all but $100 of the replacement.