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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Close Encounters tuning before Bertha....

    ....i totally forgot about that! Nice little surprise.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    Welcome to Thursday Night at Winterland

    Gonna try and get everything just exactly perfect here...

    Haven’t heard this one in awhile.. and so far so good, Jack Straw is def a stand out in this here first set. Nice Pick!

    JIMINMD - The Good Ole GD Hour.. was definitely my first reliable source for good quality tapes. I still have a bunch of the tapes I made in the garage… memories. David Gans is yet another colorful and beloved character in the rogues gallery of GD collecting. A true pioneer that one..

    STRIDER 88 - Wow.. What a time to be 23!! Great story, I can kinda picture it, it must’ve been great to be in the balcony at Winterland and just be able to scope out the scene and see friends. Fillmore East & Winterland the two most Hallowed of halls… keep the stories coming!

    OTIS - Enjoyed 5/10/80 Set 2, smoking China > Rider!

    BILLY THE KID - 6/11/69 what if it’s no good and you time traveled back to catch a bunk show? Unless of course you know something we don’t.. like where the tapes are?

    Looking forward to Friday’s trip back to 5/15/70! That’s gonna be good, it’s been awhile.

    You all ever think this is all a dream we dreamed?

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    5/15/70, top 5

    5/15/70/ is on my top 5 list of Dead shows that I would attend if I could go back in time. Along with, 5/2/70, 2/27/69, , 3/1/69, and 6/11/69.

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    Travis Bean / Wolf Guitar / Gibson SG 1970 1977

    Wolf makes a reappearance at the New Years run. Jerry played a Travis Bean earlier in the year. (77) Only saw him play the Bean once , one time in Eugene, Oregon March 1976 with his own band.
    May 15, 1970 was far different from my first GD show in the dead of winter. Springtime in NYC is a rush of a different feeling . NRPS plus acoustic Dead, throw in Workingmans Dead release and one small detail , I was fucking 16 years old! Main difference at my first Dead show, I pretty much stayed in my seat, second Dead show besides acoustic set I was up dancing at my seat during NRPS set and the electric set as much as possible.
    A shame more of the acoustic sets of the 70 odd mas o menos from 1970 , 1980 were not taped or were lost.
    When I think of the Fillmore East and later Winterland I hold golden memories in my heart.

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    Re: 5.15.70

    Good idea Strider.

    For what it's worth, I took the time to compile the best available audio from the New Riders sets and combined it with the Fully Normanized version, arranging the songs in the correct order, etc. I forget if there was (were) missing song(s) on the released version, I think yes.. if so they are included. It's as good a quality, full show experience as you are going to get 50 years into the future. It's monster long, meaning big.. and of course full of big fun.

    I think Ziffle who posts here sporadically was there also and spoke quite highly of the whole experience. These are the type of shows I am most envious of and if I could set the dials to the wayback machine, one by one I would hit them all.

    Anyway regarding the full show experience, you know where to reach me.. 7 CDs worth of music in one night.. I believe the sun was already up when the noise inside finally subsided and the people began pouring out into the sidewalks of New York having the difficult task of making sense of what in the hell just happened and what became of their minds (sounds of jaws scraping up sidewalk debris as they walked to the subway to go home).

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    I wrote a story about being at that show that is in the comments section on 12/29/77. I’m lucky to listen to every other suggested show in this forum. Will definitely listen today even if a day late. It’s on my IPod so I can listen at home. Shows not on my IPod I tune in by iPhone off of a cell tower 35 miles away that I have to get up to a ridge top a couple miles from home. The 50th anniversary of my second Dead show is Friday . Was at the early show. If no one has picked for Friday , 5/15/70 would be great. NRPS was there the same night.

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    Had the meat of the second set on tape courtesy of David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour since circa 1990?? then in something like 91 or 92 I hit dreaded record on my portable player and handn't removed the tabs on the cassette. So I had this two second break in the tape where you could audibly hear the word (think slow motion) F uh uh chk chk chk, then back to the music. It wasn't until the Dicks Picks came out that I had it complete again. Whew,..

    Always a personal favorite. The transition in China Rider is both sublime and unique. Super smooth and fluid.

    Anyway.. my little personal story about that release. How many people out there used to record The Grateful Dead Hour back in the day because.. well because it was almost always better than the tapes I had of those shows at the time. It was almost like an early version of the Internet Archive for lots of us. David Gans for Pres? ha..

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    Yep, sounds good! Dang, I've had this ever since it first came out (98) but I've barely even listened to it. I guess back then I was obsessed with pre-hiatus and this one fell through the cracks. Better late than never!
    I just listened to the Bonus material from 12/30- wow! The Estimated jam really catches fire, then fine Jerry vocals on Eyes, then a sweet quiet jam into St. Stephen. The crowd goes wild at the first St. Stephen notes. Powerfully jammed Stephen and Sugar Mag to close- whew- a great sequence. Latvala never let us down!

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    12-29 China Cat Breakout

    Weir was dropping China Cat teases after the hiatus all over until the breakout including 10-3-76 and Winterland 6-8-77 during NFA (just rediscovered that one the other day). You could tell he really wanted to bring that one back.

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    12.29.77 sounds just fine....

    ....if I recall, that's the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. Could be wrong. The down side of so many awesome releases is that it gets hard to recall correctly at times. I think I'm right though.
    Busy day at work. Had time to check out 5.11.86 though. Miracle -> US Blues to open the second set caught my ear. Cool banter by the Boyz that gig. Passed 5.11.77 by today. Catch it later.

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Please forgive...what is the Danes reference? (strong beverage?)

My disc 4 of 5/13/73 just now: "I would ask the same of you", then disc stops

Beauty eh!
They seem to get a little tighter every show.
And yeah, that tape drop out in the jam was major orgasimas interferous.
That sheet was starting to rip, then....Doooooaaaaahhhhh!

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First date of the E72 run was this date 49 years ago, and 30 years ago was this Orlando show. This is the only time I ever saw Rubin and Cherise performed and it was epic. They brought the house down with that one. Awesome 2nd set with a great drums with Mickey pounding on the beam into a lovely space into a great Box of rain. The local newspaper posted a very good review the following day. Enjoyed the flashback.

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....i saw that Box out of Space Unkle Sam. Very cool. Also saw there is a Reuben & Cherise. Will listen later, but I'll probably pick an AUD source. For the crown reaction to Reuben if nothing else.

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4/7/71 diggin' it.

Love these '71 St. Stephen's and this one is particularly nice with Drums > Jam and... ouch nasty cut.

Remember when most tapes had nasty cuts?
At least most of the tapes I had did.
Used to kill me.
Now.. that's mostly taken care of with a crafty patch from an Audience recording.
No such luck on this one.
Oh well, just another picky Dead Head I guess ;)

Will try and make it to 4/7/91 today as well. I cheated a little and listened to Ruben already.
UNKLE let's hear some stories, were the rumors circulating about R&C 3rd of 4 played I believe.
Always down for a Crazy Fingers > PITB > UJB > PITB and Box out of Space, can't beat that.
'91 is a good year.

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4/7/71; 4/7/72; 4/7/91
trifecta, I’ve been using that word a lot lately.
4/8/71 has one of the few Dark Star appearances of 1971. Go deh , tomorrow .

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Dead.

I didn't realize these '91 shows were at the Greatest Place On Earth.
(PS - Not Norway, it was at Disneyland, marketed as the GPOE;)

What a trip!

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Strider they played a trifecta of Disneyland Dead in '91.
And PF you went long... never mind, my screen was small.

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woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

GD

THE GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME.

THE GREATEST, JERRY!!! THE GREATEST!!!

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Another enjoyable performance/solid outing by the band beyond description!
Another I might not of ever hit if not for this board and all y’all’s turn ons.
Mañana I’m doing another double dip with 4/8/71 and then ???
Did some one say Dark Star?
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That’s just PF thinking outside the box.

Got 4-7-91 going now. Had it on cassette, and it was a pretty good sounding copy.

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If ya'll are into it, I encourage you to check out the KC Masterpiece that is 12/10/79.

Solid first set with a rocking CRS>GSET opening combo and a stellar Dancin'>Franklins that is the best of that 79 groove, and a nice, quick, high-energy Deal to close it out.

Killer 2nd set with an OFF THE HOOK FOTM (sadly, the Scarlet is only in AUD), but the Fire is stratospheric! A must listen, IMHO. After a bummer "Easy to Love You" (easy to love you, Brent, but ewww...) things get back on track with LIG>He's Gone>Truckin' that is lights out - the Truckin' is incredibly high-energy ROCK AND ROLL! then Drums>Space>Wharf Rat (gorgeous)>JBG (rocking!) ends the set, USBlues encore (also rocking!)

Not sure why this show seems to be under the radar - it is a SMOKER through and through. Here is a link to the Matrix:
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

Oh, don't let the flubs in Peggy-O set you off course. There is a TON of incredible stuff coming down the pike!

Peace
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

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Dark Star . Go for it. Today . 50 years later.

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It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day. Very humid for April and the lot was humming with the entire family of dead freaks and heads, bozos and bolos, even the pranksters were there too. It was a lovely site, the cops on horseback helping instead of rounding up, no real hassles except on this date the opd did chase a dude into the very deep (some said bottomless) sink hole lake (actually a big pond) out in front of the since torn down old "O"rina. Not a good day for that dude as he did drown but it did not stop the festivities for the entire 3 days that the band was in town.
Jerry and Mountain Girl and kids went to Disneyworld (not land) that morning and got back in time to rest up a bit and make the show. Jerry was well rested, had a big smile on his face throughout the show and laid down some very nice runs.
The first set starts off with a Jack Straw, a good one and we are on our way, the cops had been told "hands off" for this show and the smell of cannabis was everywhere inside the arena. It was like the old days, everyone happy, everyone stoned and the band in good spirits. Then into Sugaree, Jerry just fine, voice and playing, then into wang dang doodle which got the crowd groovin' into the meat of the first set with Row Jimmy, a bit slow and the crowd wanes a bit but the Black Throated Wind was extra good into the 3rd and final performance of Rubin and Cherise, which had a few around us looking puzzled, as they did not recognize the song. It was a fine version and Jerry belts it out. Followed by a promised land. There was a buzz around the lot earlier that they had broke out some old classics but no one mentioned Rubin, it was a big surprise and very well done, then into Promised Land to end a short but awesome first set.
The second set starts off with Crazy Fingers, you know it's gonna get good now, and it did. The second set is just sublime with Playin'>UJB into a killer drums with Mickey and Billy just wailing away, Mickey on the Bean which sent a few from the front running to the back. We got a kick out of that, newbees were not ready for that, into a beautiful space that Jerry shreds on into a nice box that was requested by someone who's dad was sick and Phil responded beautifully. Then GDTRFB, had not heard that one in quite a while and we all danced and danced. Then Bobby follows that up with Lovelight, never thought I would hear that song again, not the Pig version but still a rarity that didn't get much play since Pig left us. All over now was the encore and we left the orena and stumbled back to our room. We had rented a room at the Omni right next door to the orena and had it for 2 nights, party central and just about any favor that you wanted was there.
We got wasted on Black hash and red bud Colombian all night. I had brought some tripping lps with us and we rented a turntable from the hotel. Just after this show, the omni got sold and we paid for the rooms in advance but the rentals were extra and were to be billed to us later. We never got a bill. We slept in a bit the next day then wandered down to the lot for another day of full on partying until the next show, which is another story. Ps, another great show, so much fun that they added a third show.

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Good to hear from you Otis. I am going to check this out. I love 79. A lot of great shows in 79…..... Oh and in 1980..

Thanks for the pick.

Stay well.

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12/10/79 & 4/8/71
Maybe I was not clear on my recommendation for today.
I do not recommend every 50 year anniversary should be listened to. If it has some history involved, like Capitol Theater or Manhattan Center I would think it would behoove a deadhead to check it out.

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I'm in on the Twofer.. keying the first one up.. approximately... now.

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I'm hip Fo Sure.

Kinda want to finish that 1991 Orlando run at Disney World too.
(I always have mixed up World & Land.. somethings never change).
We'll see where the day takes me.
But honestly.. I've never needed much arm twisting when it comes to Dark Star, so it's 4/8/71 first for me. ;)

Hot Dog!

UNKLE - Sweet memories! I always like reading stories that start out with "It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day."
You reeled me and kept me there. Dig it, Tripping in Disney World with the whole GD Fam.
There were days!
Spring '91 could really sparkle at times. Sounds like this April in Orlando was one of those.
Good stuff.
Keep it coming, I want to hear what happened the next day after all the hash and stuff ;)

Happy Twofer / Threefer Thursday
Threefer sounds like reefer.

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Thanks for the stories Uncle Sam, I think I like the stories these days as much as the shows lol. Cool show, cool scene!
You painted a nice picture, I could feel the vibe of old!

I think ole PF likes to just toss positive ideas out into the ether, it’s up to us what sticks or not lol, but yes, we’ve been a tad schizophrenic lately DV ; )
My take on the anniversaries is certain big year events, like 50s, especially that seem to have some sort of consensus, are good picks, or at least second picks...that’s why I’ve been trying to go twofer; the usual POTD, like today’s fine 79 pick, AND the historic 50th pick. Otherwise I find the same ole “anniversary” picks can get very predictable and boring.
I still find the coolest thing about this place is getting turned on to awesome left field stuff that you might never had gotten to. Perhaps today’s pick will be a good example? The unpredictability, like it was going to a show; “what will they play?” (especially fun if you don’t peak!) But hey that’s just me, and I believe the only rule we have is that we have no rules...well, perhaps to be respectful to each other!

Sorry for the editorial, now back to your regularly scheduled drumz/space...er a “twofer”

EDIT: yeah GOGD, I’d like to hear “the rest of the story” as well as the shows. We should pencil them in over the next few days perhaps as extras if other folks have picks?

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4/8/71 first set down (1st & down) Dark Star on deck.
12/10/79 just uploaded from relisten.
Phatty Patrol successful.
Ready to a- go go.

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Again a beautiful day in Oville as we rambled down to the lot that early afternoon, the sun was out, freaks on the streets, in cars, up in the trees, it was just out of site. We (there were 5 of us) were in the middle of a lot party, meeting lots of people, lots of ladies scantily dressed, everywhere there was dead music playing and just a big wonderful party. We had been smoking and drinking for about 6 hours and I was getting wasted, I pulled up along side of a big tree and sat down, the rest of the crew continued on.
As I awoke it was late afternoon and show time was fast approaching. Scurried back to the room to get the show favors and there was a head in the hallway whispering "downers" "downers" I approached, they were reds (or so I thought) and bought a couple as they used to be my favorites back in the 70's when you could still find them. He said his old lady had a prescription so I was like , big time score.
A few minutes later the rest of the crew showed up and I told them about the reds, of course everyone wanted some but I only could get a couple so they flipped for it and I gave the winner one.
On to the show, the place is packed, second show of the run and everyone is antsy, the feeling was electric. I think the band could feel it too cause they opened up with half step, a big favorite of mine, and the crowd loves it, in my past experiences, a half step opener usually means a real barn burner so I was stoked. I decided to eat the red and see what happens, an ok walkin blues into a sweet Peggy-O, then I start to feel it, it's knocking me off my feet, Me and my Uncle and Maggie's farm and I'm down in my seat a Dire Wolf beginning and that's all I remember. I woke up a couple of times I was told later and tried to get up, to no avail. During Drums and space my buddies were literally caring me around, going from space to space, and according to them, I was loving it. I woke up the next morning and was fit to be tied, those weren't reds, like the guy told me, the guy who got the extra said he thought they were Tylox, which if you haven't taken or heard of them, they are a powerful sedative/pain reliever given for kidney stones. Good thing I didn't take both of them, could have been a real bummer.
The hotel room had to be vacated at noon, so off we went down to the lot, found a place to park that was quite a ways away as we had been parked in the hotel lot but they told us we would be towed if we didn't move. As we were coming back from parking the car in the city garage, we run into this head who's selling sheets 100 for 150. he had a bunch of them, little red roses, we were set for the final show, and it was a real doobie dazzler.

new to me - just now listening to first set. some interesting unusual keyboard caught my ear - didn't sound like Pig. I thought this is Boston maybe this is a Ned Lagin show and sure enough he played the whole show per his website. So yeah some Ned keyboard as a bonus! http://spiritcats.com/nedbase.html.

Here's an interesting tidbit about 4/8 from Spiritcats: During the break Jerry asks Ned what he would like to play - he asks for "Alligator", "The Eleven", and "Dark Star". They do "Dark Star".

"Now they call you Prince Charming
Can't speak a word when you're full of 'ludes"

My mama said
to get things done
you better not mess with
pills

US's story is scary

gimme somma dat green instead, please

PS can you identify crosswalks when you are on 'ludes?

4/8/71: perhaps my fav besides/since 2/19?
They definitely have been getting tighter each show and by now perhaps were getting comfortable with the new tunes/format. Maybe that’s partially why they took a little detour back to the ways of old...and/or Ned was in da house?
Chever way it was great show!

12/10/79: only made it to drums before I got cut off...decent first set, really enjoyed the disco Dancin’.
Second set has been hot so far...yasssir that Fire is scorching...I even liked the Easy to Love lol, but that Truckin’ is worth the price of admission in itself! Yowsa dats the shit right there boys and girls! That’s why we listen to hours and hours of Dead, to find THAT!! That jam got the full Minglewood!

Mañana?? May I please request at least one show off of released disc as I won’t be able to stream all day lol.

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Dick's Picks 20? Two shows, almost. I haven't listened to that one in ages, so I need a refresh.

Ignore me if this was done already.

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Good call on this show Otis. The matrix was really good. I like Easy to Love you. Brent's voice obviously changed a lot over the years. I really like the 79 Franklin's. Great second set. Not terribly long. Nice US Blues encore.

Could we please see some more love for 79-81?

Dick's 20 for tomorrow sounds great. I haven't listened to these two 76 shows since last year at some point. Let's do it. Thanks Bolo.

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Bertha leads...

now on Sugaree

I love the sound of the band on this release...a multi-jointed creature such as a spider, walking down a roadway.

or something like that...

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Let me grab my old platform shoes and flared pants...oh, can’t forget the puffy shirt!

Ooopps, almost forgot my bullet ; )

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very good to hear that release again

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Finished 9/25/76 and need to get moving on 9/28.

The first 76 release and it still delivers. Great Minglewood, Peggy O. Love the second set. Last Cosmic Charlie. The Scarlet is awesome and you kind of feel it wants to go somewhere. Nice finish.

Always thought it was interesting when they came back in 1976 how long it took for some of the songs to reappear.
Truckin at Englishtown, Casey Jones and Dire Wolf in October-November 77. China Rider on New Years 77 and of course Dark Star on New Years 78.

Really looking forward to the next release. What are we, three weeks away.

Stay well out there folks.

17 years into the archival releases. I remember getting this one well.. I thought (think) it was (is) spectacular.

This was still early enough in the series where every release was special, and the first from 1976 if memory serves. Was it a Healy or Betty recording? Healy is referenced on wikipedia, which seems odd. Anyway....

I'm partial to the Cap Centre show but perhaps it's just a hometown vibe thing. Both shows are strong. But hey, it has a Peggy-O and perhaps my favorite supplication jam prior to '85. But the next two discs are perhaps better. The Playing in the Band sequence is a unique beast, really something.. the Comes a Time>Eyes>Tango>Dancin' is one of the better jams of the year. Wowwy.

This release always was held in good regard. It could be because it came so early in the release schedule and was a twofer for the first of the '76 shows released. It could also be because it really is a special sequence of shows. Not sure why.. but this, to me, is a listen to very stoned show.. really good Indica. After the work is done and you have earned a really good night off.. something to do when you have no responsibilities whatsoever.. just zone out and be yourself.

That's my read.. Been a long time since I listened to these two. Dick knew what he was doing and it was a good listen today all these years later.

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Yes, it was Healy on this one and Dave's 4. Rex was killed in a car accident I believe over Labor Day Weekend and Betty was off the road for a while.
RIP Rex.

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that explains it

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6 17 75

Opened archive
I scrolled
There it is saying "PLAY ME"
6 17 75

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Detroit in 88 and Rosemont in 89... So i just went on archive to listen to the Joe Louis Arena show that i have not listened to in years... Had an audience tape that sounded like they were across the river in Windsor.... There is a Charlie Miller Board, and the notes says its one of the few boards of 88 with no ambient mics (Maybe this means no Healy Ultra Mix) On the opening Hell in a Bucket... Good quality board... Gonna give it a spin... Bob t recommending an 88 show!!!

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