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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Been listening to that glorious MSG Box again lately. Haven't listened to 10/11/83 more than once so need to get that show rolling again.

    Stay well out there.

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    Ah yes, one should not bury the lede. Neither the lead. Thanks for those observations, doc... gave me a lot to mull over this morning. A marathon... yes.

    I ended taking my own advice (er... suggestion) and putting on 12/6/71 last night. I had some observations typed up but now I can't recall if I actually posted them... I was interrupted by my good wife during Wharf Rat, which seemed a reasonable time to look up from my brown study. I had been absolutely entranced starting with PITB, short but getting longer as '71 progressed. And that Other One... my word... just excellent. In my observations I remember thinking how impressed I was with Keith, and how accomplished he was just a mere few weeks into playing live with these guys... leaving space, a lot of space, but when coming in, his feel and expression on the keys was never tentative but consistently assured. No wonder Phil makes that comment (at the Academy of Music a few months later? I forget) about "our new keyboardist... well, actually, he's our old keyboardist; we just didn't know it yet"

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    Trust in dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.....

    OBEAH---

    Death is not extinguishing the light; it is only putting out the lamp because the dawn has come.......

    Multiple gunshot cases are the most challenging, akin to an autopsy marathon. You can't start out sprinting, instead, start out easy and finish strong. Takes planning, determination, and perseverance. Easy to find the injuries, sometimes much harder to find the "evidence"----bullets and fragments. You never want to bury lead................

    Of all the gods only death does not desire gifts.........

    Doc
    Look for me in the nurseries of Heaven.......

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    I smell multiple gunshots

    Doc how'd it go with that one? Forensic pathology seems not only useful to society at large but also a very thought-provoking way to spend one's time.

    Now then...
    >The whole story is too long to tell here
    ...if you want to tell more, I have ears to... well, I have eyes to read

    bc 12/5/71 never gets old for me. I think the recording is a factor - I often wonder, if this one came out on Dave's Vol 22, would it have the same almost tangible electricity? Is there something about the mind filling in the gaps a bit, and positing improvements - that perhaps, things could be even more intense if only the signal to noise ratio was improved in our favour; if the room's reverb were lessened; if some Plangent sauce was applied? Sometimes I think I shade 12/5 with the tint of yesterday, because I heard it so many times before I ever heard 12/6 or 7. I've probably listened to 12/5 at least a dozen times since Dave's 22 came out, yet in the same span I've probably played Vol 22 three times through at most. I'd put that down to habit and familiarity. I had planned to listen to 12/5 tonight but maybe I should grab that Dave's and give it another really good listen instead...

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    somebody smoking coconuts out there?

    yeah - 12/5/71 Felt Forum

    patience, young grasshopper, Dave will release this someday

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    Due to increasingly restrictive privacy regulations and the desire to keep your data safe and secure. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you kindly for your understanding. This is my frustration; as it totally has a mind of its own to when where how or why; so you know, no soup for me! and possibly others too, oh yes this was written in six edits

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    I frequently hear music in the very heart of noise.....

    Yes, rockers, once again it is the anniversary of one of the greatest, weirdest, most bootlegged, and most interesting Grateful Dead shows of 1971----Felt Forum, December 5 1971.

    The whole story is too long to tell here, but enlighten yourself with a listen, there are some very good copies of the matrix-like FM broadcast out there. It has pretty much everything you'd expect of a Dead show at that time.

    Yet even after all these years, questions remain.................

    1) I Wash My Hands In Muddy Water. This very country tune was pretty popular around 64-66, and Elvis himself put out a version in early 1971. How did it come to Garcia's attention and why was it only a one-off? Truthfully, the Dead's version sounds well rehearsed and is a neat little gem.

    2) The vocal-less, so called "silent Dark Star". No words! What prompted that? However it came about, it's cool............

    3) Every show in December was recorded, several have been released. Where is the pure soundboard copy of this show? Has it finally been returned to the band? One can only hope.................

    4) Who was Uncle Sal???

    The idea of music is to liberate the listener and lead him to a frame where he feels he is elevated.......

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Music is the expression of the movement of the waters, the play of curves described by changing breezes.......

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    Been awfully slow here lately.

    Driving home today from a quick errand and the Porsche Cayenne in front of me on the exit ramp had a personalized license plate that Said Hey Now! With some sort of Dead symbol between the Hey and the Now. You can't make it up. I thought about trying to communicate with the driver but then realized he might think I was a stalker.

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    Mornin', rockers!!!

    Here at work, gearing up to deal with multiple gunshot homicide, last day before vacation..........

    Boston Music Hall 12/2/1971. Very odd & interesting show. No Truckin', Other One, or Dark Star. Only 1971 show with both Smokestack and Lovelight---both solid versions. Black Peter and a Brokedown. Plus lots of other gooey Grateful Dead goodness!

    Lots of high quality copies are out there. Always worth a listen!!

    Music is the best means we have of digesting time......

    Off to morgue..................where there is never any Grateful Dead played.........

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Music, when soft voices die
    Vibrates in the memory.......

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    He got his money's worth! The incredible China Rider transistion, smokin Big River, Brokedown, and we're just getting warmed up. Jerry's slide playing inspired in this show, WRS, Row Jimmy. Second set jam transitions all just smooth as silk.
    Amazing show.
    Cheers

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Please forgive...what is the Danes reference? (strong beverage?)

My disc 4 of 5/13/73 just now: "I would ask the same of you", then disc stops

Beauty eh!
They seem to get a little tighter every show.
And yeah, that tape drop out in the jam was major orgasimas interferous.
That sheet was starting to rip, then....Doooooaaaaahhhhh!

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First date of the E72 run was this date 49 years ago, and 30 years ago was this Orlando show. This is the only time I ever saw Rubin and Cherise performed and it was epic. They brought the house down with that one. Awesome 2nd set with a great drums with Mickey pounding on the beam into a lovely space into a great Box of rain. The local newspaper posted a very good review the following day. Enjoyed the flashback.

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....i saw that Box out of Space Unkle Sam. Very cool. Also saw there is a Reuben & Cherise. Will listen later, but I'll probably pick an AUD source. For the crown reaction to Reuben if nothing else.

4/7/71 diggin' it.

Love these '71 St. Stephen's and this one is particularly nice with Drums > Jam and... ouch nasty cut.

Remember when most tapes had nasty cuts?
At least most of the tapes I had did.
Used to kill me.
Now.. that's mostly taken care of with a crafty patch from an Audience recording.
No such luck on this one.
Oh well, just another picky Dead Head I guess ;)

Will try and make it to 4/7/91 today as well. I cheated a little and listened to Ruben already.
UNKLE let's hear some stories, were the rumors circulating about R&C 3rd of 4 played I believe.
Always down for a Crazy Fingers > PITB > UJB > PITB and Box out of Space, can't beat that.
'91 is a good year.

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4/7/71; 4/7/72; 4/7/91
trifecta, I’ve been using that word a lot lately.
4/8/71 has one of the few Dark Star appearances of 1971. Go deh , tomorrow .

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Dead.

I didn't realize these '91 shows were at the Greatest Place On Earth.
(PS - Not Norway, it was at Disneyland, marketed as the GPOE;)

What a trip!

EDIT:
Strider they played a trifecta of Disneyland Dead in '91.
And PF you went long... never mind, my screen was small.

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woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

GD

THE GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME.

THE GREATEST, JERRY!!! THE GREATEST!!!

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Another enjoyable performance/solid outing by the band beyond description!
Another I might not of ever hit if not for this board and all y’all’s turn ons.
Mañana I’m doing another double dip with 4/8/71 and then ???
Did some one say Dark Star?
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That’s just PF thinking outside the box.

Got 4-7-91 going now. Had it on cassette, and it was a pretty good sounding copy.

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If ya'll are into it, I encourage you to check out the KC Masterpiece that is 12/10/79.

Solid first set with a rocking CRS>GSET opening combo and a stellar Dancin'>Franklins that is the best of that 79 groove, and a nice, quick, high-energy Deal to close it out.

Killer 2nd set with an OFF THE HOOK FOTM (sadly, the Scarlet is only in AUD), but the Fire is stratospheric! A must listen, IMHO. After a bummer "Easy to Love You" (easy to love you, Brent, but ewww...) things get back on track with LIG>He's Gone>Truckin' that is lights out - the Truckin' is incredibly high-energy ROCK AND ROLL! then Drums>Space>Wharf Rat (gorgeous)>JBG (rocking!) ends the set, USBlues encore (also rocking!)

Not sure why this show seems to be under the radar - it is a SMOKER through and through. Here is a link to the Matrix:
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

Oh, don't let the flubs in Peggy-O set you off course. There is a TON of incredible stuff coming down the pike!

Peace
https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

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Dark Star . Go for it. Today . 50 years later.

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It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day. Very humid for April and the lot was humming with the entire family of dead freaks and heads, bozos and bolos, even the pranksters were there too. It was a lovely site, the cops on horseback helping instead of rounding up, no real hassles except on this date the opd did chase a dude into the very deep (some said bottomless) sink hole lake (actually a big pond) out in front of the since torn down old "O"rina. Not a good day for that dude as he did drown but it did not stop the festivities for the entire 3 days that the band was in town.
Jerry and Mountain Girl and kids went to Disneyworld (not land) that morning and got back in time to rest up a bit and make the show. Jerry was well rested, had a big smile on his face throughout the show and laid down some very nice runs.
The first set starts off with a Jack Straw, a good one and we are on our way, the cops had been told "hands off" for this show and the smell of cannabis was everywhere inside the arena. It was like the old days, everyone happy, everyone stoned and the band in good spirits. Then into Sugaree, Jerry just fine, voice and playing, then into wang dang doodle which got the crowd groovin' into the meat of the first set with Row Jimmy, a bit slow and the crowd wanes a bit but the Black Throated Wind was extra good into the 3rd and final performance of Rubin and Cherise, which had a few around us looking puzzled, as they did not recognize the song. It was a fine version and Jerry belts it out. Followed by a promised land. There was a buzz around the lot earlier that they had broke out some old classics but no one mentioned Rubin, it was a big surprise and very well done, then into Promised Land to end a short but awesome first set.
The second set starts off with Crazy Fingers, you know it's gonna get good now, and it did. The second set is just sublime with Playin'>UJB into a killer drums with Mickey and Billy just wailing away, Mickey on the Bean which sent a few from the front running to the back. We got a kick out of that, newbees were not ready for that, into a beautiful space that Jerry shreds on into a nice box that was requested by someone who's dad was sick and Phil responded beautifully. Then GDTRFB, had not heard that one in quite a while and we all danced and danced. Then Bobby follows that up with Lovelight, never thought I would hear that song again, not the Pig version but still a rarity that didn't get much play since Pig left us. All over now was the encore and we left the orena and stumbled back to our room. We had rented a room at the Omni right next door to the orena and had it for 2 nights, party central and just about any favor that you wanted was there.
We got wasted on Black hash and red bud Colombian all night. I had brought some tripping lps with us and we rented a turntable from the hotel. Just after this show, the omni got sold and we paid for the rooms in advance but the rentals were extra and were to be billed to us later. We never got a bill. We slept in a bit the next day then wandered down to the lot for another day of full on partying until the next show, which is another story. Ps, another great show, so much fun that they added a third show.

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Good to hear from you Otis. I am going to check this out. I love 79. A lot of great shows in 79…..... Oh and in 1980..

Thanks for the pick.

Stay well.

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12/10/79 & 4/8/71
Maybe I was not clear on my recommendation for today.
I do not recommend every 50 year anniversary should be listened to. If it has some history involved, like Capitol Theater or Manhattan Center I would think it would behoove a deadhead to check it out.

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I'm in on the Twofer.. keying the first one up.. approximately... now.

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I'm hip Fo Sure.

Kinda want to finish that 1991 Orlando run at Disney World too.
(I always have mixed up World & Land.. somethings never change).
We'll see where the day takes me.
But honestly.. I've never needed much arm twisting when it comes to Dark Star, so it's 4/8/71 first for me. ;)

Hot Dog!

UNKLE - Sweet memories! I always like reading stories that start out with "It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day."
You reeled me and kept me there. Dig it, Tripping in Disney World with the whole GD Fam.
There were days!
Spring '91 could really sparkle at times. Sounds like this April in Orlando was one of those.
Good stuff.
Keep it coming, I want to hear what happened the next day after all the hash and stuff ;)

Happy Twofer / Threefer Thursday
Threefer sounds like reefer.

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Thanks for the stories Uncle Sam, I think I like the stories these days as much as the shows lol. Cool show, cool scene!
You painted a nice picture, I could feel the vibe of old!

I think ole PF likes to just toss positive ideas out into the ether, it’s up to us what sticks or not lol, but yes, we’ve been a tad schizophrenic lately DV ; )
My take on the anniversaries is certain big year events, like 50s, especially that seem to have some sort of consensus, are good picks, or at least second picks...that’s why I’ve been trying to go twofer; the usual POTD, like today’s fine 79 pick, AND the historic 50th pick. Otherwise I find the same ole “anniversary” picks can get very predictable and boring.
I still find the coolest thing about this place is getting turned on to awesome left field stuff that you might never had gotten to. Perhaps today’s pick will be a good example? The unpredictability, like it was going to a show; “what will they play?” (especially fun if you don’t peak!) But hey that’s just me, and I believe the only rule we have is that we have no rules...well, perhaps to be respectful to each other!

Sorry for the editorial, now back to your regularly scheduled drumz/space...er a “twofer”

EDIT: yeah GOGD, I’d like to hear “the rest of the story” as well as the shows. We should pencil them in over the next few days perhaps as extras if other folks have picks?

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4/8/71 first set down (1st & down) Dark Star on deck.
12/10/79 just uploaded from relisten.
Phatty Patrol successful.
Ready to a- go go.

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Again a beautiful day in Oville as we rambled down to the lot that early afternoon, the sun was out, freaks on the streets, in cars, up in the trees, it was just out of site. We (there were 5 of us) were in the middle of a lot party, meeting lots of people, lots of ladies scantily dressed, everywhere there was dead music playing and just a big wonderful party. We had been smoking and drinking for about 6 hours and I was getting wasted, I pulled up along side of a big tree and sat down, the rest of the crew continued on.
As I awoke it was late afternoon and show time was fast approaching. Scurried back to the room to get the show favors and there was a head in the hallway whispering "downers" "downers" I approached, they were reds (or so I thought) and bought a couple as they used to be my favorites back in the 70's when you could still find them. He said his old lady had a prescription so I was like , big time score.
A few minutes later the rest of the crew showed up and I told them about the reds, of course everyone wanted some but I only could get a couple so they flipped for it and I gave the winner one.
On to the show, the place is packed, second show of the run and everyone is antsy, the feeling was electric. I think the band could feel it too cause they opened up with half step, a big favorite of mine, and the crowd loves it, in my past experiences, a half step opener usually means a real barn burner so I was stoked. I decided to eat the red and see what happens, an ok walkin blues into a sweet Peggy-O, then I start to feel it, it's knocking me off my feet, Me and my Uncle and Maggie's farm and I'm down in my seat a Dire Wolf beginning and that's all I remember. I woke up a couple of times I was told later and tried to get up, to no avail. During Drums and space my buddies were literally caring me around, going from space to space, and according to them, I was loving it. I woke up the next morning and was fit to be tied, those weren't reds, like the guy told me, the guy who got the extra said he thought they were Tylox, which if you haven't taken or heard of them, they are a powerful sedative/pain reliever given for kidney stones. Good thing I didn't take both of them, could have been a real bummer.
The hotel room had to be vacated at noon, so off we went down to the lot, found a place to park that was quite a ways away as we had been parked in the hotel lot but they told us we would be towed if we didn't move. As we were coming back from parking the car in the city garage, we run into this head who's selling sheets 100 for 150. he had a bunch of them, little red roses, we were set for the final show, and it was a real doobie dazzler.

new to me - just now listening to first set. some interesting unusual keyboard caught my ear - didn't sound like Pig. I thought this is Boston maybe this is a Ned Lagin show and sure enough he played the whole show per his website. So yeah some Ned keyboard as a bonus! http://spiritcats.com/nedbase.html.

Here's an interesting tidbit about 4/8 from Spiritcats: During the break Jerry asks Ned what he would like to play - he asks for "Alligator", "The Eleven", and "Dark Star". They do "Dark Star".

"Now they call you Prince Charming
Can't speak a word when you're full of 'ludes"

My mama said
to get things done
you better not mess with
pills

US's story is scary

gimme somma dat green instead, please

PS can you identify crosswalks when you are on 'ludes?

4/8/71: perhaps my fav besides/since 2/19?
They definitely have been getting tighter each show and by now perhaps were getting comfortable with the new tunes/format. Maybe that’s partially why they took a little detour back to the ways of old...and/or Ned was in da house?
Chever way it was great show!

12/10/79: only made it to drums before I got cut off...decent first set, really enjoyed the disco Dancin’.
Second set has been hot so far...yasssir that Fire is scorching...I even liked the Easy to Love lol, but that Truckin’ is worth the price of admission in itself! Yowsa dats the shit right there boys and girls! That’s why we listen to hours and hours of Dead, to find THAT!! That jam got the full Minglewood!

Mañana?? May I please request at least one show off of released disc as I won’t be able to stream all day lol.

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Dick's Picks 20? Two shows, almost. I haven't listened to that one in ages, so I need a refresh.

Ignore me if this was done already.

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Good call on this show Otis. The matrix was really good. I like Easy to Love you. Brent's voice obviously changed a lot over the years. I really like the 79 Franklin's. Great second set. Not terribly long. Nice US Blues encore.

Could we please see some more love for 79-81?

Dick's 20 for tomorrow sounds great. I haven't listened to these two 76 shows since last year at some point. Let's do it. Thanks Bolo.

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Bertha leads...

now on Sugaree

I love the sound of the band on this release...a multi-jointed creature such as a spider, walking down a roadway.

or something like that...

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Let me grab my old platform shoes and flared pants...oh, can’t forget the puffy shirt!

Ooopps, almost forgot my bullet ; )

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very good to hear that release again

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Finished 9/25/76 and need to get moving on 9/28.

The first 76 release and it still delivers. Great Minglewood, Peggy O. Love the second set. Last Cosmic Charlie. The Scarlet is awesome and you kind of feel it wants to go somewhere. Nice finish.

Always thought it was interesting when they came back in 1976 how long it took for some of the songs to reappear.
Truckin at Englishtown, Casey Jones and Dire Wolf in October-November 77. China Rider on New Years 77 and of course Dark Star on New Years 78.

Really looking forward to the next release. What are we, three weeks away.

Stay well out there folks.

17 years into the archival releases. I remember getting this one well.. I thought (think) it was (is) spectacular.

This was still early enough in the series where every release was special, and the first from 1976 if memory serves. Was it a Healy or Betty recording? Healy is referenced on wikipedia, which seems odd. Anyway....

I'm partial to the Cap Centre show but perhaps it's just a hometown vibe thing. Both shows are strong. But hey, it has a Peggy-O and perhaps my favorite supplication jam prior to '85. But the next two discs are perhaps better. The Playing in the Band sequence is a unique beast, really something.. the Comes a Time>Eyes>Tango>Dancin' is one of the better jams of the year. Wowwy.

This release always was held in good regard. It could be because it came so early in the release schedule and was a twofer for the first of the '76 shows released. It could also be because it really is a special sequence of shows. Not sure why.. but this, to me, is a listen to very stoned show.. really good Indica. After the work is done and you have earned a really good night off.. something to do when you have no responsibilities whatsoever.. just zone out and be yourself.

That's my read.. Been a long time since I listened to these two. Dick knew what he was doing and it was a good listen today all these years later.

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Yes, it was Healy on this one and Dave's 4. Rex was killed in a car accident I believe over Labor Day Weekend and Betty was off the road for a while.
RIP Rex.

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that explains it

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6 17 75

Opened archive
I scrolled
There it is saying "PLAY ME"
6 17 75

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Detroit in 88 and Rosemont in 89... So i just went on archive to listen to the Joe Louis Arena show that i have not listened to in years... Had an audience tape that sounded like they were across the river in Windsor.... There is a Charlie Miller Board, and the notes says its one of the few boards of 88 with no ambient mics (Maybe this means no Healy Ultra Mix) On the opening Hell in a Bucket... Good quality board... Gonna give it a spin... Bob t recommending an 88 show!!!

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