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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Thanks for the reminder about this show, which I just enjoyed relistening. At 72 years old, I'm not much at remembering anything, but I did attend three of these Felt Forum shows starting with this Sunday show, and I do remember marveling at the monster long spectacular sets. (My immediately prior shows had been two nights in August at the Hollywood Palladium, which I still count among my absolute favorites, though they were clearly more abbreviated than the NY shows. Hard to Handle from 8/6/71 is unbeatable.) 71 was a great year for Me and Bobby McGee and this show is no exception. Also one of the last powerful performances from Pigpen. I remember thinking at the time that the Dead had really "made it" playing at the elite Felt Forum. Clearly not grasping what was ahead!

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    The ABCD factor

    Yep, can’t forget that, as those shows do seem to be a priority!

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    Morning, rockers! Happy Friday!!

    The following is all just one man's opinions, and based on my information at hand---which admittedly is probably incomplete and dated...............

    12/5 was not in the first two returned batches of Betty boards. The other three Felt Forum shows were, as well as other 1971 shows, such as Albuquerque, second December St Louis, first Ann Arbor, Northrop Auditorium, and several shows from the Spring. Of note, several of these shows were also broadcast live on local FM radio stations.

    In addition, Charlie Miller (great big thanks!) has remastered and put into circulation several soundboard copies of December 1971 shows that were also "broadcast shows", such as second Boston Music Hall and the New Year's eve show. So clearly, shows that were broadcast were also being recorded by the band.

    Another point: it's pretty clear that the Dead have a copy of the matrix FM broadcast in the vault. Over time, they have played snippets of it on their Taper's Section/Jam Of The Week postings.

    So why hasn't it been officially released yet? Don't have a good, informed answer for that, so now we're into educated guesswork. My guess is, is that it's been a returned tape recently, or TPTB know there's a board out there and are waiting for its return. Maybe somebody is "holding it hostage". We may never know, but I think it will see the light of day eventually, and then it will get its due respect.

    I have asked DL a couple of times if a pure soundboard of 12/5/71 has been returned to the band. No answer. I don't mean an evasive answer, I mean just plain no reply. I don't read anything into that one way or the other. Just keeping with the trend of TPTB being somewhat secretive about returned recordings..........

    Rock on!!!
    Doc, three day weekend

    As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins.......

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    No offense to good ole Mr Dave (L not Rock lol), but I think there’s gotta be some kinda list or outline perhaps better word, not a set in stone list, but some kind of general listing of certain shows that should/will be released in time, just not any kind of planned out schedule. Which would be very GD like lol.
    He deny it categorically, but I mean to have a long term business plan you’d have to space out the top chestnuts. I can understand how this irritates some folks, fortunately, so far, not myself. But the next couple years will be interesting…
    I’m not sure I always get some of his individual picks, but he often knows what tours to harvest from, and I think it’s interesting to get turned on to shows, near or around the big dogs, that you’d perhaps not normally discover.
    And most of “those” have been good picks, just not “the” pick many desire.
    Personally I love em all, except when sonically inappropriate (51) as it’s opened my horizons significantly, but that’s just me and I totally get the sandbagging POV.

    Oh, AND, some of these shows have been significantly circulated over the years, so maybe that plays in?

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    No worries, Daverock!

    I appreciated the sly twist of sardonic humor there, per usual ... Cheers

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    Yes...maybe I was a little harsh!

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    And yet ...

    Almost all the ones they have released are still d*mn good too! 😁: Albuquerque, St.Louis, Austin, Ann Arbor bonus disc & the NYC material (what is not duplicative between the two dates) ... Only the UCLA show - which is decent, and likely was rush-released as Bill Walton descended - is a cut below the others ...
    All of which could mean they're saving the other greatness, lately listed by several folks here, for a Big Box. That said, I would not be surprised if it didn't appear for purchase for another several years. Nice to think about it though!

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    They seem to skilfully avoid releasing the best shows from this era when putting anything out, thereby making it seem a less impressive timespan than it actually was. A skill they could do with losing.
    Apart from Dicks 2, of course.

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    Great Question on the Felt Forum

    Yes, great question. Maybe Doc knows?

    I wouldn't think he would save it for a later release, so there must be another reason?

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    Why wasn't this show released? 12 6 and 7 ok but this is the one that SHOULD have been.

    Grumpy Grumpkins at your service

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I am going to check this show out Bob t, 4/11/88. Thanks!

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BobT Nice TLMD on there and enjoyed that Touch of Grey this AM. I'll try and grok the whole thing.

The cats at Dead Air played a new source of 4/11/69 last night.
EPIC Dark Star > Main Ten > Dark Star.
Crazy good, hadn't heard that in awhile.
Well worth dustin' off.

And Doc is pushing 4/12/71 as an underrated gem, so there's that too.

Meanwhile I've found myself in a big huge NRPS jag.
Finally getting around to giving the Dawn Of The NRPS a proper listen.
So cool that this shiz keeps creeping out from under the rocks, shoeboxes and behind the curtains.
This is an amazing release for GD & NRPS nerds, like me.

In my fever I noticed that there's a NRPS SBD from 9/20/70.
I haven't been able to track it down on the digital highway, not sure it's circulating. But it's out there!
Anybody on here got it?
Trying to lay my ears on both 9/18/70 & 9/20/70 NRPS.

The hunt is on.
Fun stuff!

EDIT: Found 'em. Happy kid here!

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I drove to Golden Gardens at Puget Sound
Entered a parking space
I see a bill of money on the ground in front of me
And a guy working out the back of his car to my right
His lil table had batik GD dancing bears tapestry
I pick up bill it is a 20
"You drop this 20?" I ask guy
"No"
I think for a second
"Everyone wins. Lets split it"
I give him two 5's

Cool event, bro

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Good on ya' - a great example of why we need more deadheads wandering around.

As a "thank you," check your PM for details of an upcoming release that will knock your...

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He is a certified prankster whose sole mission is to mess with people. Pretty detestable, if you ask me. Thank God he's not Canadian!!

Carry on.

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This is nice, funny. Bluegrass based about dead tickets

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=t8xVXL7sB0o&list=RDAMVMt8xVXL7sB0o

If anyone has good collection of these guys let me know. I'm about to go searching.

Proudfoot - funny about the money, I do the same thing a lot at the store I work. All night long (ok several times a night) I go out and check the lot, check lights on front of store, pickup garbage) Ok, really to burn one. But because it night, the lights of the store reflect across the lot as I pace back and forth I find change every night,,, mostly pennies, but silver too. Every now and then I turn up decent money, 20's, 10's, crumbled 1's (the meth heads). Found 70 bucks once, a fifty or two, chunk of 20's. Always come in and split with co-conspirator,,, I mean co-worker. Found money shared is still found money:-)

Oh, and even further back off subject,, Jim,,,, did you really climb the Devil's Tower?

Bluecrow was there. At the time he felt it had its moments, for sure, but it wasn't Hampton. Earlier today was first time he's listened to whole show since that night. Going back in for a second go round. Nice sounding board. Thanks for this DD BobT. Really nice Stella Blue. And oh yeah - its got a "Drummers Birthday!!"

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I'm just a tad behind here.. trying to ride Doc's '71 coattails which has been much more enjoyable than I would have guessed. Right vibe, right time, and getting both a historical perspective and some personal stories, memories and notes. Oh.. and some killer GD. I always liked the crunchy sound of hard driving April 1971 GD.

Yes to Devils Tower, but back when I was young, thin and in much better shape than now. It took two attempts.. the first day we only made it halfway up and had to leave a bunch of gear on the cliff and rappel off in a moment of defeat. As the day went on, we struggled and the tower makes one hell of a sun dial signaling to us that it was just not in the cards that day. Our vacation was over, out of time as my brother had to get back to work. We conceded to the closest food and beer joint (a BBQ place), it was a little slow and our hot waitress came over with an acoustic guitar and played for us while we licked our wounds. By the end of the night she convinced us all to give it another go, so the plan was to get my brother to call in 'sick' for work that following Monday and we took an extra day for a redemption attempt. Up early and more than a little groggy, sounded better when the beer was flowing. Of we went and by early afternoon we were at the top playing hacky sac until these horrible biting flies began to go to town on our flesh. So we rappelled off and began our cross country drive home.

I would guess it to be August 24th or 25th 1990. The car battery died somewhere in the Tetons that trip, so every time we turned off the engine we had to push start the car (it was a stick shift, remember those??). We coasted into a gas station not far away from East Troy WI on the night of the 27th and there were all these freaks at the gas station.. we struck up conversation and they were all mourning discovering the news that Stevie Ray Vaughan's helicopter had crashed killing all as he was leaving Alpine Valley. In looking into this again, it must have been very late or very early the next morning, we were 5 or 10 miles away from the venue and people at the gas station had left the show and clued us into what happened. Weird and sort of GD related as the ending centers around of the Dead's more beloved late era venues. Alpine kicked ass.

I visited the place in the summer of 2018 and got winded taking the trail around the monolith. Time and age can be cruel.. but at least we have memories of youth.

Proudfood.. glad you got the $20 I left.. sorry about the scratch on the Prius, hope the $10 covers the touch up paint. :D Just getting back to live after a few busy days.. I will check out the 75 show later this week in your honor.

Bolo, not many live to tell tales after getting on Lemieux's naughty list. The rat bastard has thwarted each and every attempt to storm, tunnel under and move the vault to our new undisclosed location in the control room under an abandoned cold war missile silo in rural Kansas. Ooooops, I think I said too much. Do you ever wonder what happened to all those people that don't post here anymore? Prisoners in the medieval dungeon below the vault.

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Jim the adventurer!

That sounds fun and I'm glad you clarified that that wouldn't be as easy now a days ;)
I still drive a stick shift... but the old gal would've been on the assembly line during your stories timeline.
1992 subaru, I love you.
Yeah, I know... I need a new car.
But can't say I've done much driving this year.

Alright, so what's the pick?

I heard about some 1971 from Doc that sounded worthy.
Checking out the NRPS from 9/20/70 and this is a killer SBD.

Hmmm, which way to go.
I sure don't know, what I'm goin' for....

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not on my radar but it has a Cumberland and a Dew out of space at a tiny college in Vermont.

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you know...

I don't remember much about that there show from April 13, 1983.
Pretty familiar with some of it's brothers & sisters.
But nothing is standing out, when I look at it.
Other than I gave BIODTL Four stars, so apparently I liked that.

Think it might be time to give it another spin!

Thanks UNK.

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As spoken from on high.. 4/14/71 got some glowing accolades from the good doctor on the Dave's 37 thread. I am taking that trip today. I have not listened to many of these April '71 shows and am enjoying them immensely.

How are things going out there folks, hopefully everyone is making the best of things and enjoying themselves. I read this morning in my amateur malingerer's handbook that April 14th is national leave two hours early from work for a fictitious dental emergency day. Be sure to do something fun with it.

I wonder, yes I wonder.

But Jim asks Have You Seen The Light and to that I say Yes!

I have and it's bright.
A bright bright light.

I'm goin' 4/14/71 too cuz I, like Jim, read Doc's write up and thought, I need to hear that... again.

But unlike Jim, I will not be participating in fake a dental appointment day due to the absence of a boss.
I'll just take a personal day and tell my self, self... take a personal day and listen to the Grateful Dead play.

Got it?
Good Morning People.

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Love it GOGD.

You are taking the whole day off.. As an amateur malingerer, I only aspired two hours off. I clearly have a lot to learn.

As a side note, I am hoping in 10 or 15 years 2/3 of the country will be skipping out early on April 14th each year to "go to the dentist." Everybody needs at least one get out of work free card each spring.

Never heard of this one,,,, is this like national hookie day? Where everyone skipped school (it was legal, being NHD).

Well I can't cut or skip being in a essential service industry. But I CAN make it a green night! Not sure if that counts for 2 hours early or day off?

I WILL be playing 4/14/71 tonight. I poked that a little this morning and I seem to have a damn good copy.

GOGD, are you a Cyrano de Bergerac fan?

Praised the Lord, I saw the light!

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Has been burning up most of my listening. Have hit all since 3/24 Winterland so far.
Need to hit that 4/13/83, since I went to the show before and after. Always wondered about that one? Did anybody listen, is it good? Wish I’d been a little older cause I bet Vermont would of been cool.
Bingo town 4/12 was awesome, first time tripping at a show....hey, I was a late bloomer ; )
4/15 Crotchfester was good too, though I haven’t heard that one in awhile. GA front row for both, voooooooo!
Those were the days!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE

4/14/72, need to listen to at least the meat and potatoes. Funny, almost wrote 4/14/72 on the info sheet they have you fill out getting vaxed lol. Guess it was a sign!

AND, ...just received RT 2.3 so I’ll have to spend some time with that too. Just worried I’m gonna get a headache and not want to listen to anything : (

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Hey Oroborous, RT2. 3! I wouldn't ruin it for you. You know where to find me if you ever want to listen to the bonus disc.
4/14/72, another great E72 show and we hit this one up here not too long ago.
And all this 71. You are definitely busy.

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Cyrano de Bergerac please stand up?

It is I the brilliant poet and swordsman in my clever disguise as TGOGD ;)

Dennis I kid, because I care.
But in all seriousness I can't really say I know too much about him, but perhaps that will change now.

Now that you've mentioned him, I may spend some time looking into his illustrious life and adventures on Google.
Or I may... go outside!

I think I better do #2 (not that kind) cause I'm getting a little wacky.
Wacky Tobaccy

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Thanks DV for your kind offer.
Fortunately, perhaps unbelievably I was given that bonus disc by a awesome person here!
Still blows my mind!

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verb
gerund or present participle: malingering
exaggerate or feign illness in order to escape duty or work.

I did that over a pay phone from a rest area near Kankakee, IL on 7-23-90 when I realized that I was going to be several hours late for work.
But the biggest mistake is that I only bought tickets for the first 2 nights.....

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no tickets for 7 23 90 - ouch

"how was I to know"

Skankakee...giggle

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I say 7 27 74

Listen to the PITB, if nothing else

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We might have done this one early on.. if not, I have listened to within the last year so I am doing the highlights portions. This one is shaded by neighboring giants but has some nice highlights. Plus, I have a soft spot for Roanoke and that portion of Appalachia. Close to Virginia Tech (home of the Hokies), the New River - one of the oldest rivers in the world and lots of fun stuff in between. A sleepy little mountain city. I have fond memories of times I spent nearby a few decades ago by now. We're getting old...

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Jim, wild story. I have a little history with Devils Tower myself. I worked in northeast Wyoming in August 1974 for three weeks as a roustabout on the oil field. I was 20 and it was one helluva an education. I was hitchhiking cross country back to Eugene, Oregon and needed money. The dudes from Illinois who gave me a ride in South Dakota were going to Wyoming for work so I bit the baagwahn and went for it. After working for most of August I had a couple days to kill before collecting severance pay so hitched from Gillette to Devils Tower to illegally camp outside of the National Monument (private land?) with a spectacular view of the tower and a full moon.
I wasn’t disappointed.

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Playin in the Band, ”if nothing else”. 25 minutes and 56 seconds, about how long the DMT lasts. (dmt NOT recommended)
“We got some talented pickers here tonight”. Ace Wheeler , Luke’s Bar, Missoula, Montana 1977

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US Blues -> Jam -> Promised Land

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Strider, oil field worker was my first job out of high school, I went from making $2.00 dollars an hour
washing dishes at Woolworths , to making $4.00 an hour working in the oil fields.

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Make good money $5 a day....

I remember Woolworths and I remember their cafeteria. Man.. that was a long, long time ago.

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Please don’t tell my Mother I work in the oil field,
She still thinks I’m a piano player in a whorehouse.

It's officially been a year hanging with you all, what a long strange trip it's been huh?!?

After lurking around for a few picks, I decided to step out and participate, super glad I did.
I've learned a lot, made some pals, swapped stories, shared quite a few laughs, made some killer trades, and have heard some great music and gone furthur into the GD catalog than I had before.
And one of the best parts is being a part of this GD community.
Community is key, and the GD community, is above all a very special one.
In a crazy world, when all was spiraling, twirling and careening off the edge.
I went back to my roots and enjoyed the ride with some friends and The Good Ole Grateful Dead.
I'm super glad I did.
It too was a Friday.

To all of you here and Dead Heads everywhere, I salute you. We're on the right track.

I guess the obvious pick would be 4/16/72 or possibly 9/20/88 (I heard Charlie Miller refer to this show as his favorite that he attended).
Besides they've got Cumberlands.

Together, more or less in line... we just keep Truckin' on.
Happy Friday!

Right on GOGD!

I am going to go for the 9/20/88 show. Never heard this one. Thanks for the picks.

Been thinking when they will give us that fantastic last run in Alpine in July of 1989.
Downhill from Here, released in 1997, still sounds unreal. I think these three shows are the best of the July run. The crowd was just unreal for those three days and so were the boys. And I was just a clueless eighteen year old. Wish I could go back in time to these three shows. First thing I would do is find myself and hand me a list of all the mistakes to avoid in the next 30 years. Anyway, I know almost all of the July shows have been released, but these still are a notch above. I also need to check out the Deer Creek Show before they hit Alpine. Anybody heard this show?

So, box up Alpine with three full night's of Video and watch the site go down.

Stay well out there folks.

Congrats Bolo!

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Ugly Rumors... word was you have spent the last couple weeks in a Russian prison. Good to hear your feet are firmly planted and your family is doing well.

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This matrix is sounding sweet so far. Good call GOGD.

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SET 1
Jack Straw
Althea
Mama Tried >
Big River
Peggy-O
When I Paint My Masterpiece
Louie Louie
The Music Never Stopped
SET 2
Bertha >
Cumberland Blues
Looks Like Rain >
Terrapin Station >
Drums >
Space >
Truckin' >
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad >
Morning Dew
ENCORE
Johnny B. Good
....setlist looks awesome. Firing this up now!
Congrats Bolo. Vegas grandbaby incoming!!

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do you remember grandchildren's birthdates by box set release dates? I still used dead show dates and years to remember what I was doing back in the day, where I was at, where I was working, etc...

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Charlie Miller!

He's the man. Posting stuff as fast as he can.
Where oh where would we be.. without good ole' Charlie,
Listen to his fave show attended at the MSG

Tip of the cap.
Trips Captain!

Bolo congratulations grandpa!!!

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STRIDER 👍
Best bumper sticker I ever saw was on a big old pickup truck said “wine me dine me 69 me” which was funny enough but when I pulled up to the red light beside it, it was being driven by a very elderly looking little old lady who could barely see over the steering wheel!

GOGD: sounds like your leaving us or something? This is Hotel California bubba, you can check out but....

BOLO: the world has enough Bozos already and not enough Bolos! Congrats. One thing (so far) I miss about not having kids...no grandkids : (
Think I would of liked being a Boompa, if only we could of skipped a step lol.

9/20/88: looks interesting and with THAT recommendation I’ll have to put it on my list...did do 4/15/71 today which I really liked.
On to my new RT 2.3 plus bonus. Been mostly sleeping and not up for loud after getting stuck. So missed a couple days but we’re slipping back into the mix here slowly.

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Was a fun listen. Also listened to the 2nd set of 4/15/71 three times. Congratulations Bolo, the beat goes on. Oro , I love that bumper sticker. I also adopted a Newcastle, English Geordie expression many years ago; “Fuck me blue damn it!.” Used in the right setting at the right time has great social and political import.

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Holy crap, this is a great show. Louie Louie! Nice Althea, Peggy O. TMNS to end the first set. Then we get a nice Bertha, Cumberland to start the second set. Need to finish this one up tomorrow and will definitely polk around the other MSG shows from this run.

Thanks GOGD.

These guys are pretty damn good.

Anybody else getting excited for Dave's 38?

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....Strider got the keys to Jim's John Deere.
Show me the way. I hear it's got a side car.
My fanny pack is stocked.