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  • wilfredtjones
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    Is that anywhere near Bong Rec? :-P

  • Thats_Otis
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    Alpine 84?

    Sounds good to me!

    And I will second Jim's 4/23/69 Ark pick for tomorrow - should be an interesting contrast.

    Since there wasn't yet a pick for today, I loaded up Beacon Theater 6/14/76 from the box, after a morning appetizer of Disc 3 from 4/8/72 Wembley. I got through the first two discs of that one last evening, but HAD to listen to the third before putting it back on the shelf. Favorite Dark Star ever? I dunno, but it is certainly up there! The Beacon Theater show is nice, but it was a little unfair coming right on the heels of that Europe 72 show, as most things are.

    Back to the 80s madness! I've actually been to Alpine - the steepest lawn I've ever been on!

    Peace

  • JimInMD
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    Funny, I was going to toss out an 84 option since we seem to be on an 80's terror.

    Perhaps we can squeeze in something primal soon and something in the 7 1 through 74 range too.

    As for primal, perhaps later this week?? It's been years since I listened to 4/23/69.

  • The Good Ole G…
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    What a fun night!

    The Scene:
    We'd gotten home from Alpine and kicked around for a week or so and then headed over to Pittsburgh for our last taste of the Dead for the summer of '87. I guess it was a Monday night, but felt like a party. The only time we stayed in a hotel, and a bunch of our friends from Ohio had the room nextdoor. The rooms had a connecting walk through party door and we walked through it and partied all night long! It was off the hook. I can't remember if that was planned or coincidence, but feel like we didn't know until we got to the room. The hotel was taken over by Dead Heads and a party raged the whole time before and after. There was a Park & Eat diner up the road and we went there in shifts throughout the night, high out of our minds, laughing and shit like we were on a different planet, and we were. All these stoned out hippies flooding the place. We made up all these names for it, the barf & puke, the stop & ralph, we were rolling. I think there was a pool and the balcony circled around the pool.. but yeah it was 33 years ago, and we were all blotto.

    The Music:
    You ever been to a show with a friend and the band plays ALL of their favorites? That was this night for me and my buddy Walling. The place was electric and everybody was ready to party and so was the band. If I remember correctly, which is highly suspect, but mentioned elsewhere, there were guest musician rumors going around that day, so we were taking guesses on who it’d be, I was pretty sure it’d be Dylan, since they’d just played with him. I think that happened, but again the mind can do funny things. The show had that kind of extra excitement. There was magic in the air. And the band was on, Jerry was stomping around and belting it out and it had that ’87 energy of renewal. We’d seen it at Hampton, and felt it at Alpine (somewhat) but couldn’t see it there. So it was GREAT to have it confirmed in Pittsburgh. We had a great view of the happenings and just boogied down all night. If you weren’t hip before, when the Neville Brothers joined the band, everybody knew they were experiencing something special! I had definitely figured it out when Jerry started belting out Whoa’s during Shakedown Street, it was electric. What a fun show. It was my first & only Shakedown, and man it’s still my favorite. The first Knockin’ out of space was pretty epic to witness, by then we had been on such an adventure we just watched in awe, and then they revved up like a deuce with a couple more rockers to send us home or in our case, back to a raging hotel party that continued all night. Throughout, the band played my best friend & traveling partner’s favorite tunes that we didn’t see at Hampton or Alpine. The Shakedown > Samson, Iko > Day-O (he also loved that song, it was cosmically weird) > Women & closing Good Lovin’ & JBG encore, felt like it had been dreamed / willed up by my pal Harvey Wallbanger and we danced our asses off. Good times huh bro?!?!

    33 years later it still gives me the chills looking back on it and remembering

    Never Had Such A Good Time.

    Thanks to BLUECROW & JIMINMD for sharing their tales as well. And thanks to all for listening in with me, this one holds a special place in my heart. The band came to have an electric rock n’ roll party and that’s just what we did.
    EDIT: Ironic that In The Dark was released this day as well, and the band didn't play a single tune off the album, bad ass ;)

    What a band!

    Alright, what’s on tap for today?
    EDIT 2: Alpine Valley 7/7/84 you say...

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1984-07-07.sbd.miller.94379.sbeok.flac16/…
    Alpine Valley 7.7.84. Welcoming Lovelight back into the fold! Let's do this!!!

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    Jim and Bluecrow, thanks for sharing your memories of the Igloo! Really cool. Jim, yes, I do know what you mean, about the changes that occurred after In the Dark. The Dead achieved big time success, which I think was great for them, but of course it changed the scene forever.

    The ultra matrix I pulled up on Relisten was marginal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

    Official releases versus bootlegs. I will say, this site would not exist if it wasn't for the official releases. Professional recordings, mixing and mastering take a ton of time and effort and in most cases sound way better than unofficial releases. If they didn't, Grateful Dead Productions and Rhino would not brother with these releases. I am sure glad they do, it has been tons of fun.
    I have also been surprised how good some of the shows on The archive or Relisten sound. Miller seems to do a fantastic job, however, it is still no guarantee that the recordings themselves were very good.

    Long live the Vault!

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    More a relation to timing, cash flow and where I was in college at the time, but I saw more shows in 87 than any other year. Plus.. I was kind of freaked by the 86 coma, which lead to full throttle 87 and Pittsburgh was less than two hours from where I was living at the time.

    I was there and it was a hoot. I was just beginning to know what the Nevilles were all about.

    What I remember from the whole thing was first that Jerry was looking and sounding better as the year went on. Second.. I was there with a bunch of college buddies and I could not wait long enough to ditch them and spend most of the show alone, just me and my girlfriend at the time. Something about people you don't know that well, that probably aren't that into the dead anyway talking while you are finding your footing is really annoying. So by Row Jimmy we had separated from anything resembling the crowd we arrived with and had achieved lift off.

    I have not listened to this since I was there until today. What a nice road trip and both brings back memories and reminds me how little I still remember. I do remember the Neville's centric second set and the drive back home a good bit.

    Well, that's the best I can recall.

    Oh, this might have been the day or the we ek that In the Dark was released. At first I was ecstatic, later deflated.. it was the beginning of the end of sorts.. We were no longer a small town, under the radar thing. It was so much more fun when were were under the radar.

    Oh.. and Otis.. it was hot as balls here today, and we are usually 10 to 15 degrees cooler than you. Great day on the river though. This working less stuff is a ok with me.

    CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN. Truly the funniest thing I have heard all month. Hilarious, I want one of those stickers!

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    hi everybody!! sorry, its been awhile posting, but i check in all the time on this oasis of friendship and good cheer.
    Pittsburgh 87 was one of only 4 east coast shows i saw (Hampton 88 the other three). I'd seen the Alpine shows, then went fishing with Dad and brother in Canada. just got back day before show. left Chicago area at dawn. for some reason took the scenic route, driving some US highway rather than the interstate. got a speeding ticket as I crossed into Ohio (65 to 55 speed trap) - boo. as i said goodbye to the kind officer i asked him how far to Pittsburgh? he looked at me funny - Pittsburgh??? long long day driving, lots of winding roads i think as i got further east but somehow made it to the arena. back in those days i would get to some confusing unknown city and just follow the cars that looked like they knew where they were going. just now flashed on a bumper sticker i saw wandering the lot that evening unwinding before the show -
    CAUTION - DRIVER LISTENING TO HOT SHAKEDOWN
    yeah, for real
    it was a heart of gold night. mail order ticket, might have been a GA show, but I was in the second level stage left. surrounded by kind strangers. more than a few empty seats in the arena i think. relaxed. really fun first set. remember Desolation Row as big cool surprise.
    and then that SHAKEDOWN - holy shit!!!! Jerry scat singing!! Phil!! craziness!! out of body rush just thinking about it!!
    and then "We ran into some of our friends the Neville Brothers" and its like you have got to be freaking kidding - Iko > Day-o > Women Smarter!! still have a dream vision of the stage during Day-O. yeah it was like a dream! coming out of space the whole place was buzzing with dylan energy, that bob d would join them. close. he was there in spirit. the knockin on heaven's door was one of the most righteous dead moments i ever witnessed. another vision of the stage as it lead to the first verse - unearthly blue/green lighting, the Nevilles, shadowed, slowly joining the boys. tears in my eyes. great good lovin set closer. then johnny b goode. super energy. smiles everywhere.
    at some point during the drive that afternoon i'd wondered what the heck i was doing. i left that show filled with contentment and happiness. of course i'm totally lost when i try to find my way out of town. most traffic long gone. i'm at a stop light, drifting in my own thoughts, when I look to my right and a couple of officers in a patrol car are 5 ft away giving me the real hairy eyeball. seconds from big trouble. I lean over, roll down the window, and ask Hi - which way to Ohio? the expression of the officer at the wheel suddenly goes from doom to Sure, let me help! Ohio? you take a left at this light! I'm like Great!! Thank you!! seconds later light turns green, i turn left, and make my getaway across some bridge. whew. at some early am rest area i remember a fellow traveler asking if I was headed to Roanoke. sigh. the answer was no - heck I didn't even know the next shows were in Roanoke. 10 years later i got to know shannon way out west. and she was from virginia and yeah the roanoke shows were way hot!! as for me, the next shows i saw were Red Rocks
    i'm listening to the Zaleski version on relisten right now - it sounds freaking fantastic, amazing pull, highly recommend!!
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912
    man, '87 was a fun year, with the newly re-energized Jerry. this brings back a lot of sweet memories.
    stay healthy and be safe!!

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    This show might just be the most-listened to show in my listening history. I think it is so much fun, it is near the top of the list of shows I wish i had attended. Enjoy!

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    7/6/87, another fine pick!

    I love that this board has gone more into the archives. I love the official releases, but there are so many gems in the ol' mine that sticking to just the releases exclusively would mean missing out on shows like this.

    Hooking it up to the stereo, hitting play, and spending as much of the day in the AC as possible. It is brutal around these parts... but a good book and a good show make it bearable. I hope everyone had a great July 4th weekend!

    Peace

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PROUDFOOT: It's some seriously heavy poetry. Lemmy was a lyricist for a lot of other singers, too. R.A.M.O.N.E.S., for instance, was written for the actual Ramones to record... and I think they might have actually done so. He wrote lyrics for Ozzy, and others, too, but 1916. I think he won a Grammy for that, didn't he?

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4 18 71 sweet
4 24 71 good
6 19 80 good

Rockthing-Proudfoot - a bit away from pick of the day, but mention Lemmy, and I see Hawkwind 1972 - 1975. If you haven't checked it out already, the official film clip of him singing Silver Machine with Hawkwind in 1972 is the business. They were amazing live in those days.

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wishing everyone a relaxing Sunday. a good day to play some electric Jerry on the Eel. congratulations Bolo on the grandbaby(!!) and to everyone getting their double dose of vaccine on (yay!!) been spending a lot of outdoor time. early-growing-season yard /garden is very happy, nicest in years. garlic is going strong and going to have a few apricots (most frosted) and one little tree of peaches(!!), and maybe some almonds(!!!) more often than not these all get taken by a late frost here. first real camping trip for a long while this past week with my sweetheart out by the Henry Mtns, last surveyed mtn range in the lower 48, with some insanely cool laccolith action along the south flank of Mt. Hillers. so good for the heart and soul to be out there enjoying the long view.
was really enjoying DaP 36 in the truck. Like the old days spinning '87 while on the road.
yes - 7/18/72 - great great show.
can't wait for DaP38 (and whatever box the Gods may bring).
Onward : )

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And a beautiful sunny Sunday it is. Supposed to get up in the seventies today up here in the high country.
Might have to sip some cold frosties on the patio later...
But first;

ROCKTHING; liked your synopsis of 35. That Red Rooster certainly is a Bobbie Dazzler eh! The mid eighties can be an acquired taste that many unfortunately don’t like. Personally, I really like em, cocaine worts and all, kinda like the way doc likes 71. It was pretty much full throttle locomotion time which meant that yes, there could be some train wrecks, and JG probably had more issues than other years, but the energy that comes with the danger is insane! To be fully transparent, I’m extremely biased because it was my most psychedelic period as well as seeing many shows on the rail as GA was still happening.
Nothing like a huge bag of shrooms and being close enough to joke around with the boys! Those were the days!
If your looking for more spring 84, the next night in Philly is hot, and I was at 4/16&4/17 so can say their at least worth a listen. I was at 10/20/84 and can recommend that one, but don’t go near a Aud version as the sound in the carrier dome was always atrocious. Definitely go SB. Augusta is a must.
85 is perhaps the year closest to my heart. Admittedly situational factors are a big influence on my feelings about 85. Perhaps the last year of true madness before it all got too big and went too far? Again, not for everyone but you should at least check out summer tour some time. I did the whole anniversary tour thing here last year. (You could go back and check my two cents if your so inclined).
But 6/25/85 that PF proposes is a good one and the one that kinda surprised me the most overall last year.
The 30 Trips Riverbend (6/24) is probably the gold standard as far as overall consistency etc. (and I think it sounds pretty good as I’m not hung up on it’s being “a cassette”) but there is a fierce contingent of us that love Toga, Hershey, and Merriweather. If nothing else the 6/30 Shakedown Street is a MUST listen!
It’s easy to blow off certain years, but I feel that’s a big mistake. The band played for 30 years, not 5 or 6...
I used to suffer some what from this closed mindedness, but after hanging here with these good folks, I have learned to love every year, or have found every year has at least some great shows, there just different, like a 30 headed beast, that has the same body...
Yes some years have more worts than others, but I can find stuff wrong with any show from any year, if I want to.
I think it’s like riding deep powder in the trees...the trick is to look at the spaces between the trees, not the trees!

BLUECROW: Henry Mountains, damn dude that is some remote country out there! Bet it was awesome!

POTD: going to try and get started on the big final stretch of April 71; the Fillmore’s
4/24 was good, but it felt a little laid back? It was subtle and you probably wouldn’t know it if you hadn’t done the whole month in order, thereby being more in tune with the nuances. I’m convinced now that it’s a must to do certain tours comprehensively and in order.
But after the last top notch five or six shows, and the crazy travel schedule they had, it’s easy to understand how they perhaps let off the gas a tad and enjoyed the warm afternoon southern scene.
Really stoked for this Fillmore run as I’ve only heard The Beach Boys show on XM once and the cut ups from Ladies & Gentlemen. Surely being back in NY, rolling tape for the album, and knowing the grueling travel is over, while being super tight from the tour, well I’m guessing this week is gonna be prime Dead!

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I like it!

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Two Deadheads in the great southwest. I too have an heirloom peach tree ( set fruit) an apricot, and an almond tree. I grew the later two from seed and the peach (6”) I bought at 2nd Mesa Az about seven years ago. The peach is 8’ tall and produced a first solid crop of peaches last year. Looks good for this year.
I’ve had the almond tree a few years and it’s had a rough life , almost killed by deer. Now it’s about 4’ tall. It still hasn’t made almonds.
The almond tree still needs something more. I’ve decided to plant a second almond tree. Then they’ll be The Almond Brothers.

Eat a peach. Brilliant.

I hear of you play jammy music to your trees you get giant almonds. Might I suggest playing nothing but Dark Star to tree 1 and nothing but The Other One to tree two and in five years tell us which produced the larger and which produced the tastiest nuts.

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Shipping notice.

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Hope to - possibly best peaches I've ever had. Scraggly volunteer tree from a peach picked by a friend in a neglected near abandoned orchard in SW Colorado. Almost entire flesh is a deep purple.

I think I remember reading that most almonds need a an almond brother / sister to pollinate. Some are selfers. Mine is an old tree, at least 30 years old, on the place when I got here. Didn't know what it was until 2 years ago when it set a big crop of fruit for the first time in all my years here. Always thought it was an infertile apricot hybrid. I'm guessing its a selfer because I don't know of any others nearby. Flowering overlaps with the apricots so almost always production clipped by late frost. Scrub Jays went to town on the crop 2 years ago - it was fun to watch them pick out a nut, fly to a nearby tree and peck it open.

Listened to 4/25/71 yesterday - "very nice." More Fillmore today.

And the Henrys are pretty remote - just what the doctor ordered.

Enjoy the day everyone.

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36 min other one, great liner notes by Mr. Hunter. A great release and the first one after Jerry left us.

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Thinking about 6/10/76, Boston Music Hall for today? Hoping for a spectacular follow up to last year's fantastic box.

Let us know.

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I would if I could but I am at work and cannot access my CDs

I can hear in my noggin a part of the Playin' that is spacey

on the way in I listened to part of 6/25/85.

THAT SHOW ROCKS!!!

BOX US WITH SUMMER 85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4/25/71 ✔️😀
4/26/71 ✔️😀
6/10/76: currently headin on done that big river...

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Slim Pickings around here.

6/10/76, probably the least listened from this box so far for me and of the four Boston Music Hall shows from this run.
All these shows are great, can never get enough of Mission in the Rain. The finish is somewhat unique with that Playing, Dancing and US Blues.
So, they have one more Boston Music Hall show from this run not released. Why didn't this make it in the Box?

So far the two Beacon shows are a notch above for me.

Hope you enjoyed it OB and good for you for keeping those 71 shows going.

Who has a pick for today?

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Would be my choice for today. Except that I go a little more organic in my pickings and always hate to be tied down.

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Alright WTJones, 12/12/78, you say. I will check it out.
I love the second half of 78. The energy is different.
Thanks for the pick.

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I got a digit for ya...

the middle digit on my right hand

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DaP #38, in my mailbox, now in my hot little hands!

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That is great. Just curious, did you receive a tracking Email from this site that Your Order is on the Way?

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@DeadVikes -- yes, tracking order came on Saturday.

Anyways, I don't want to spoil things, but some Dead Happiness is coming y'all's ways! Feel free to guess, though... :)

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Thank you. Enjoy it. No tracking for this kid yet, but that is not unusual. Trying to stay positive.

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4/27/71: only one I had previously heard all of on XM. Enjoyed it more this time, goofy part and all.
Really looking forward to the next two...
12/12/78: another solid, high energy, off the beaten path show...enjoyed ✔️

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Just wrapping up this show, and I enjoyed it! I think I actually prefer late-78 to Spring. High energy 1/2 Step>Franklins, a peppy Peggy-O, M&MU>Big River, slinky Estimated, hyper Eyes with a really cool jam leading into Drums. All in all, good pick, WIlfred! Thanks!

I will say though - that piano must have been black and blue after the pounding Keith was putting on it. Perhaps it was the source I chose, but he was mixed HIGH and those block chords came through loud and clear!

Peace

Edit: It seems I can still post on this page from my home computer - it's my janky work computer that seems to have the issue.

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The Man is on to ya 😉

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38 is in my mailbox at home. I will spin tomorrow.

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... to listen to DaP 38 just yet. Drumming for dance class comes first, always. @DeadVikes, hopefully you'll get your notice soon.

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Great show WTJones. Post Egypt 78 has that real raw rocking vibe. No Shakedown in this one but there is a solid Stagger Lee. Great start with that 1/2 Step in Franklins. Recording is really good. I think I remember hearing a interview with Dr. Bob talking about this show. Bummer they moved the US Blues encore to the end of the first set. Agree Otis nice estimated into Eyes.
Thanks WTJones.

Okay, I am dying to know what is the big surprise with Dave's #38? Who will spill the beans?

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... and more than a few dollars short.

Two suggestions for a pick today - 4/22/83 New Haven. I started this one on the "day of" last week, but only got through a bit. I really loved what I heard though! Stranger, Bird Song opening one-two punch! That's a hell of an opening duo. This show comes highly recommended by my good friend who knows these kind of things, and he has yet to lead me astray! The link below will take you to a really nice sounding Front of Board AUD if yer into it:

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-22.sennheiser.martinson.1863.sbeok…

Also, 50 years ago today, the boys played what our good friend Doc says is his all-time, desert island, #1 with a bullet show. With a recommendation like that, how can we not give it a listen?!? Here is a link to the Miller transfer of 4/28/71:

https://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-28.sbd.miller.106099.flac16

I have a somewhat lax workday - going to try for a double show day!

Peace

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@DeadVikes -- Some dude from Canada will spill the beans, once he's done getting distracted by a seagull, or something. Wouldn't want to spoil his time in the spotlight, y'know...

Tiny, unhelpful hint (my stock in trade): a chunk of the new release has already been put out in either Tapers Section or Jam of the Week.

Edit: nevermind -- it's already out there; they posted it in the April '21 email bulletin.

Okay Jefito, an autographed picture of Dave?

Interested in your thoughts on the release when you get to it.

Otis, yes, seems like a good idea to hit Doc's all time favorite show. 4/28/71.
And a twofer with 83. I will do my best to get to that as well. Thanks.

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9/8/73 - "I intend to release this one whenever the time is right."
- Dick Latvala - 06:55am Jul 3, 1997 PDT

Could it be that the time is right?!?!

Nice share ConeKid.

Hi all... I'ma try and jam on 4/28/71 today.

Keep on Truckin'

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Had not heard it in many years. Vaguely remember the bootleg cassette showing up in Missoula by the late 70s. The recording quality is stunning. Be there now. Cool coincidence ,I heard (rolling) thunder in the distance during the 17: minute mark on the Other One with Phil bombs at the same time. Those Dark Star people sure got a surprise (again) during the five night Fillmore run. The Morning Dew is so powerful it gives me chills up my spine. My old bootleg had a brutal chop/cut out at the crescendo . Skullduggery I say. Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead restored the complete song. What an amazing Dead concert. So focused and powerful it transcends time & space. Timeless music for the ages. (Read ; historians 50 years from now)

Here is to you Doc! What a great show! Best ever? That is in the eye of the beholder. Sound quality is A+. That is certainly something that has puzzled me throughout the years on how some came through smelling like roses and others, well they did not.
Love The Rub, King Bee, that Morning Dew is another top performer. Shortest Dark Star I have ever heard. St. Stephen is great and interesting. Strong finish.

And man, they sure beat the shit out of Truckin in 71.

Carlo, nice number, highest number I have seen so far. Enjoy it.
Guess that must mean #7 will be on the way at some point.

I was about to backtrack to 4/13, and 4/16/84, which I downloaded, but never had a chance to fully listen through, but I might hafta throw on the '71 Fillmore for the 4/29 anniversary. That was one of my earliest tapes, but I haven't heard it in ages. Otherwise, looks like I'm gonna be outa sync with you guys for a while, but I'm taking notes. ;)

Thats_Otis, Strider 808808, DeadVikes: So, I gather Doc is Mr. '71, and 4/28 is his desert island tape? Damn. Better get on that. I've had 4/29 for as long as I can remember, but never managed to hear the day before. Into the queue it goes! :)

Vguy72: Ain't always wrong, but I've never been right? ;)

I second PROUDFOOT's welcome to PRODIGIT.

I've loved that 4/18/71 show for so long. It'll always been one of my favorites.

Strider 808808: I've got a tiny potted almond on my rooftop patio. It looked like it was having a rough time last year, but seems to have almonds this year. It's barely 3 feet tall, but it had beautiful blossoms this year. I need to read up on what I should do. Normally I figure plants know how to grow themselves better than I know how to grow them, so I leav'em alone, mostly. Almond Brothers, though... groan/laugh :) Good one. I like JIMINMD's idea for the growing soundtracks.

DeadVikes: Interesting about that missing show from the '76 box set. I didn't pay much attention to that set 'cause I usually can't lay out for a big purchase like that. I hafta chip away an album or two at a time... and there's also international shipping... but anyway. That omission alone makes it a ripe pick.

OROBORUS: Exactly what you said, like, five pages ago... lol. Having not listened to as much from the mid-80s, '84 in particular, it's great to have some people who can point me in the right direction. Lotta shows in those years. I'm glad I'm finally finding my footing. RE: "The energy that comes with the danger," yeah I hear that. Well said. Working with, or around things can lead to some very creative decisions. I think I mentioned in my previous post how I finally realized that a lot of the energy actually coming as a result of some of Jerry's physical frailties. More jammin' I'm always down with that! I would never presume to judge anyone's personal choices, and that isn't the reason I haven't explored that era as much. Take it to the limit!
As I've said before, loving Jerry's silvery elf voice, a few experiences with croaky Jerry kind of bumming me out had made me "less enthusiastic" about collecting these tapes, but I would never say there's a Dead era I don't like. That 4/20 Scarlet Fire is amazing, yet completely different from the also amazing late 70s performances.

I've been slowly building up from a million gen second set only Cornell tape. Got lucky enough to have a buddy who's uncle was a taper, so I did have an 83 San Raphael, 6/29/86 Alpine Valley, and '88 Miami, Houston, Dallas that all came from him. Maybe that's where the 85 New Year show came from , too. The Formerly The Warlocks Hampton show must've come from a trade. Speaking of '71, got real into '71 after getting in on some tape trees with 2/18, 2/24 Capitol Theater, to 4/17 Princeton, to 4/29 Fillmore (is that what we're on today?), then probably came the Harpur College tape from '70 which got a ton of air time, and the wild '69 Big Rock Pow Wow. The King Biscuit tape arrived at some point. This was the 90s, so there were a few contemporary trees that kept me up to date, too. Got heavily into the primal 60s stuff when torrenting became big. Still slowly filling in the gaps when I've got time to lend my ears and sort through sources. Until this month, 4/19 Philly was somehow the only show from '84 I'd managed to get into my library, and I only added that a year ago. I had a handful of '83 shows and a handful of '85 shows, and I finally clicked with a couple '82 shows in the past year.

Notes: Let's see, 4/21 Philly, also back to add the 17th. 10/20 sbd. Ok. I'm a true believer in audience tapes, but I'll keep that in mind. :) :) :) 6/25/85... scrolled past several rave reviews while trying to figure out where I'd left off here. Interest is definitely piqued. 85 summer tour, in general, check. Then 6/24 and 6/30. Cool. That oughta keep me occupied for a while. :D

Also, not a skier, but that deep powder analogy is a keeper!

DAVEROCK: Yeah, man. That Silver Machine clip is cool. So much goin' off there. Looks like utter chaos. Great!

Vguy,
Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?

Lesson learned. Sit down when doing balloons.

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....no. It's tomorrow. Or wait. Is it today? Nope. Definitely tomorrow.
Shipping notice for 38 just received. ETA Monday.

50 years ago at the Fillmore East.

Third Dead bootleg I got in 1985.
I've always loved it.
My favorite Hard To Handle for sure.
Whole show just cooks as I'm assuming All of you know, if you don't well I envy you today, cause prepare to get rocked by the GOGD.

I'm going for the full meal deal.
Starting with NRPS sbd.

Goddamn I declare! If I coulda told my 15 year old self (as I was listening through the hiss of my multi-gen copy, dreaming of a better quality tape) where I'd be at today I'm not sure he woulda believed it.
What a long strange trip indeed!

Good stuff.

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Starting to work through DaP 38, slow progress since I've never really been able to listen to music properly while I'm working, plus got distracted delving into 4/28 and 4/29 of '71.

The 71' is some fantastic stuff -- I've heard it all before at one time or another: the 4/29 Alligator sequence was my first or second bootleg back in college in '76 -- could have also been 6/19/76's Let it Grow/Dancin'/Cosmic Charlie sequence. Both of those are still around, on my gym MP3 player and in my car; the Hard to Handle is my favorite version, a Just Exactly Perfect (tm) handoff from Pigpen to Bobby to Jerry and back to Pig for the close. Later on, I got hold of the 4/28 Dark Star, a perfect, beautiful jewel of a version, from a Gans broadcast, I think, and eventually I acquired the whole 5 show series -- the 4/28 Other One is sublime, and there's lots of other fun stuff as well (Second that Emotion was a delightful surprise the first time I heard it).

BTW, my DaP 38 is #1856. I have no idea what that means -- seems to be random across releases...

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Loving it so far…don’t panic during first 30 seconds of Bertha, they quickly get everything just exactly perfect. Thanks for the sticker Dave

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"Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?"

I chortled my beer when I read this. Hilarious.. really, this comment is hilarious on so many levels. Many thanks to VGuy for sharing and for the cone kid for remembering it on it's anniversary. Reminds me of Spikoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, 'people on ludes should not drive.' Clearly wise, well chosen words.

The things we learn here at dead.net. "Always maintain three points of contact when inhaling balloons in the parking lot."

I'm behind on what are you listening today. April 71 blew away my free time. It made me look and realize that my digital library is stale.. there have been many Charlie Miller upgrades to shows I had so I have to add these before I listen.. and I am not finished with the FE run.

I have question to all you wise folks out there.. when you stream from the archive... .is it lossless, SHN or do they stream a compressed file like MP3 when you hit the stream playlist VBR button. Anyone know?

Hey.. seriously.., to all the kind, thoughtful and far from norml people out there. I am digging how this thread has become a place to not only listen, suggest and comment on a hand picked show of the day but to check in and add some free form comments. Seems reasonable to me.

Concussion anniversary one day removed.. love it. What were your first words when coming to, It's got a Cumberland?

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Put on 4/29/71 last night, my own transfer from the Nth Generation Maxell I've had for thirty years... it actually wasn't too far along the tree... At first I thought maybe I'd forgotten to adjust the speed! lol. Mello~w start, so I thought maybe I should broaden my horizons and go check out 4/28 first. Man, this show is su~per relaxed, too. Was someone saying something about these shows being at the end of a long run... I mean, all I gotta do is look at the dates to see that, I guess.

Whoever was praising the recording (everyone!), truly unbelievable. It is weird how even <EDIT><<audience>> soundboard <EDIT> tapes can vary so much from night to night. I don't know who hit record on this, but I'd imagine Betty and Bob, for example, were experimenting with different approaches from night to night nearly as much as the band. Whoever it was , nailed it on this one! As much a die-hard audience tape fan as I am, I still love these early 70's boards where everyone is still so young, and giddy, and enjoyin' the hell out of it. You get to hear completely off mic things like an incredibly casual, "Whaddaya wanna do man?" before they settle on the next tune. The on-mic stage banter in this period is all gold. "How 'bout makin' this microphone work most of the time?" In fact, that may be what makes '71 so endearing to me, even more than the music. Just hearin'em talk so unselfconciously... or just hearing Jerry talk at all!

I like that Bobby is really clear in the mix, too. The guitars are separated nicely so that even at roughly the same level, they can both be made out. Bobby's always busy doin' his Bobby shix and it's a joy to hear it in this recording.

I do not think I have ever heard The Rub before. Wow. Thank you!

King Bee workin' the transmission till the motor won't run no more!.

It was getting late, but on a piece of paper next to my computer I simply wrote, "Hard to Handle", and that seems to sum it up.

Oddly getting a little lost during the opening Cryptical, but regardless, major applause for tracking Cryptical, Drums, and The Other One as piece! I love that. I'd like to see more shows tracked that way. I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again. I know it doesn't matter when your streaming... actually it does matter when you're streaming, 'cause there's a short pause between every single track, and when you've got Song > Jam > Different Jam > Drums > Back Into That First Song, that's a lot of baited breath. I also like that someone is still adding the "In a circle" to the refrain at this point. I don't think that lasts much longer, or maybe it's just normally inaudible to the audience. Man, I've been workin' non-stop lately, I could not stay awake another second. Gotta start over from there, 'cause it appears things are about to really get off the hook.

RE: Three points of contact. Best to have two good buddies holdin' onta ya like you've got a couple broken legs. :P

Re: Streaming from The Archive. Good question. I don't have any facts for you, but I've got a truckload of speculation. It seems unlikely that the streams would be lossless. It takes, like 30 or 40 minutes just to download a 16bit 44.1Hz zip, but, now that I think of it, each track takes quite a while to cache. On my connection, it's usually impossible to scrub forward until I've heard the whole song at least once. The 24 bit 96Hz shows, though, they can't be streaming at that quality, but there is no noticeable difference loading for playback.

I used to go for those hi-res shows, but they take so damn long to DL, and I have to downsample'em to get'em on my ipod anyway... which is where I listen to most of my music these days since I've started commuting a couple hours a day. Just installed an Onkyo music player that plays FLAC and any bit/sample rate you can think of, though. Not sure what the DAC on my ancient phone is all about, though, but at least I don't have to go through the whole conversion and library addition thing. I'm obsessive, but not compulsive. If I'm gonna put the show in my iTunes library, I'm gonna hafta do all the data entry, too. On the other hand, if I've got a FLAC player in my pocket, then I'll just put "Today's drive to work and back" show in and not worry about it.

Been meaning to do a big wrap up of the last 2 huge April 71 Fillmore shows, but just haven’t had the time, and I’m sure enough has been said already, so I’ll just pile on the accolades. WOW, both shows are definitely prime Dead.
I think I’m with Doc in likening the 28th better than the 29, and after hearing every version since 3/24, also think the H2H from the 28th is the Bobbie Dazzler fo sho! But that’s just a dog sense kinda thing as both shows are stellar.
So glad I did the whole month in order as you can appreciate these last shows even more. How far they came on the new songs and how tight, relaxed, on top of things. Basically they started back at Port Chester with a whole new/old GD; balls out shoot em up bar band with a whole slew of new material that totally fit their new motif!
At first it could be manic, sloppy, etc, but by keeping it basic and literally pounding it out on the road (like over 20 shows in 25 days) by the end of the run in NY they had this new MO down!
By the end I don’t think they sound tired as much they just seem extremely comfortable, like anyone on top of their game. There in NY for a week with all the grueling travel behind them, they’ve paid their dues and got shit happening, just need to relax, enjoy, and roll some tape...
I’m sure some of the vibe was due to tape rolling. Tapes not cheap so you can tell their playing to the tape somewhat, but in a good way...and how sweet to throw in all those old chestnuts for the hip NY crowd.
I won’t say 71 has become a “favorite” year, but I’m gaining a much greater appreciation after spending this wonderful time getting better acquainted. Or reacquainted as S&R was on constant rotation during my formative years.
Definitely will be checking out more 71 than just the occasional spin from something later in the year.

4/22/83: that was a nice change up in the midst of all that 71, another solid off the beaten path show we can check off the list. Spring 83 can be a little inconsistent, but this show seemed pretty together and enjoyable.

Did 6/22/73 yesterday since I haven’t received 38 yet but wanted a little of the 73 magic. Still feel like a stranger with this box. Someday I’ll get the right time/space and binge out and get right with it. Still blows my mind that Box has not sold out? Maybe I’ll continue on with that today?

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Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"