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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #1381
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    Oroborous, I found exactly what you're describing to be what I hear on the 1973 PNW shows. The 1974 shows are fine; it's just 1973. Let me preface this by saying this is by no means any reason not to get the box set - it's an awesome triple dose of '73, Dark Star a la mode, plus the three 1974 shows that sound better than any 1974 show I've heard.

    So what I hear on those 73 shows sounds like what you're describing. Unevenness. Artifacts. Loud symbols. Dropouts. Hiss. Certainly not throughout the entire three shows, but enough to get on the radar of someone who listens to shows with headphones most of the time. And the odd thing is that I don't think anyone else took this from the 1973 revordings on PNW.

    I didn't catch this on Dave's Picks 38, except for the warm-up tune Bertha, which I'm good with, because it's the first song. I listen to Dave's Picks 38 about half a dozen times and then put it down for the last week. I'm putting it back on to see if I hear anything differently. Where are some places that you hear it in the show? Also I'm curious if Playing in the Band and Birdsong are doing it?

    Edit - just listened to a few tracks from Pacific Northwest 73 in the car on the way to get some pizza and it's not nearly as noticeable on regular speakers. DaP 38 sounds better still on the couple of tracks I had time to compare a little bit of. Not that I want to hear anything bad on Dave's Picks 38, but I would be willing to take a listen to whatever tracks you're hearing things on.

  • #1382
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    Dave L walks into a bar, and has a seat at the front. “I’ll have a beer, bartender”
    The bartender replies “What!? No 2021 Box Set!?”

    Put down the fishing pole, DL, and release that Box!!

  • #1383
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    box box box PLEASE

    #38 sound is wobbly here and there

    I just go with it....but it is uneven, fo' sho'

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    The Dead played at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, along with Big Brother and the Jefferson Airplane. The Dead played a great version of Alligator , hopefully they have a tape of this in the vault and will release it as part of a 1968 box set. My brothers friend went to this show.

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    In some places it’s noticeable enough most people should be able to tell with at least a moderate volume, and being top notch GOGD I’m sure many have cranked it lol. It’s prevalent enough I’m guessing you’d have noticed it even with just a casual listen. I only hope I don’t ruin this for others who haven’t heard it, but go looking for it and then can’t not hear it LOL.
    But I’m thinking it has to be a small sample problem, though I find it hard to believe only 3 of us have had it?

    EDIT: I hear ya 1st SHOW, and truth be told there are many shows I wouldn’t care so much, but these shows, though I don’t agree with best of year hyperbole, are so up my wheelhouse, and otherwise sound so good, that it just bums me out. But hey, just like most dead “worts and all” ; )
    PS: love that if you don’t mind quote!

    DBL EDIT: wonder if they used any compression/limiting on the original tape feed? If said device was not set well it might explain...it’s puzzling that they’d use such a tape? Perhaps they felt it the benefit out weighed the negative and figured most folks wouldn’t notice? Interesting what ever the case.

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    I'm glad you brought that back up Oro

    I recently got a new amp in my system and am hearing details like never before. You have covered all the sonic equipment possibilities thoroughly so I have to go with operator error on the original recording that could not be Normanized away. Maybe the sound quality is why this took so long to get released. It doesn't seem as bad on the 9/7 material. Worth putting up with for sure but it kind of spoils playing it really loud. The old church of the IDM. (It Don't Matter) From ancient Denver AM radio with Charley & Barney in the morning. They had their own religion: "If you don't mind, then it don't matter". The 9/7 second set is worth it with that amazing Eyes jam.
    Cheers!

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    Wait, we are supposed to listen to these releases??

    I just got my copy last week and have been able to listen to it once. I think it is a great release. Sound quality is not as good as say Dave's #21 or #5, but still good. I have a good old wired system in my basement that I am sure it is nothing like yours, but it is still good. Anyway, I will have to put this one again and try to see if I hear what you are talking about. Typically if there are issues with the recording I usually pick it up on the first listen. I didn't on this one. Is it perfect, no, but like I said I still think it sounds really good and the performance is stellar.

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    Schizophrenic 38 (production issues?)

    On one hand, most of the music on here (and Bonus) is awesome! Even the complicated new stuff is hot...
    On the other hand, I can’t believe Angry Jack Straw, DCVMT, and I are the only ones having issues or hearing???, not even sure what the hell it is?.....
    I’ve purposely held off on posting about this until I spent significant time on this first...
    I’ve tried the actual discs in different players, server playing on several different systems,... same weird results?
    Worst part is not being able to figure out what it is?...
    The overall levels are not too hot, peaks set at -1 dB which is how I like it; no need to chance over saturation by going 0 db (that’s what a volume control is for...). So don’t think the mastering level is too hot...
    My guess is something in processing/mastering? Perhaps a synchronicity issue between processors?
    Perhaps some hard compression/limiting. I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time which would lean towards some kind of overall level problem. It’s only on individual sources at mostly individual instances, though there times when more then one source distorts...
    Don’t think it’s original tape over saturation because it would be highly unlikely that that would of gone unnoticed by recordist and wouldn’t have been so prevalent on so many different sources. Meaning you might have one guy who’s level is too hot because he turned up extra and the recordist didn’t catch it and adjust right away, but I’ve never heard a tape with basically, potentially, all the sources distorting like this.
    It’s often very subtle, other times it’s not. Haven’t noticed it as much on the bonus disc. Seems to start a little as LIG picks up volume, only the louder parts of Stella, but from then on its more prevalent.
    38 itself is pretty much riddled with these distortion artifacts.
    Complicating things are other variables like Bob using some kind of distortion peddle, which I’ve never heard from him this early on? Kieth occasionally has some noisy stuff kick in/out? Cymbals often trigger it, but everything, including occasionally vocals too.
    Agree with All that you can really hear and appreciate Bobs playing on all of this, in fact I liked the overall mix. I can see why this show was regarded by DL so highly, which makes this ?? all the more annoying.
    Oh, and I don’t think it’s my gear as all my previous stuff still sounds the same, so it’s something going on with the production of this release.
    Don’t know any of the specifics about plangent, but wouldn’t think that processing would alter volume peaks like this?
    My guess is that perhaps there were signal to noise issues on the original tape, or inconsistent levels between instruments (one significantly loader than another), where some compression was used to bring the overall level up, which then caused certain, individual sources to occasionally, noticeably, distort due to hard compression, but that would usually be more quick, arrack only phenomena.
    And you wouldn’t think that pros of this caliber, with the gear they have access to would do such a thing?
    I’m just desperate to figure out what the hell is going on since it’s driving me nuts and ruining what would otherwise be a long term, go to release, maddening! It’s no secret I’m a fall/winter 73 nut, so this of all releases being almost unlistenable is Murphy on 11!
    I’ve listened to this at least a dozen times already trying to just enjoy the awesome shows/music, but this phenomena keeps rearing its ugly head, uggggggg!
    It really freaked me out the first virgin spin as I was really psyched for some killer fall 73 so prepped accordingly, including firing up the big boy system extra loud and putting on the ole proverbial seat belt. So when it started to become unmistakable it really freaked me out! Now it’s just an unfortunate, un-ignorable annoyance.
    But mostly, this is deeply disappointing that such a great show, from one of the best eras is basically unlistenable.
    This is so frustrating too, as I’m sure many of you are scratching your heads wondering what the hell im taliking about lol. But at least 2 others; Angry Jack, and DCVT have experienced the same thing, so it’s not just me.

    The question then; is this a product defect, if so, is it comprehensive or just a small sample, and thus should we be asking for replacements?
    I’m guessing unfortunately/fortunately it’s a small sample problem or this board would be filled with displeasure!
    Possibly many folks listening on “normal” modest gear, at lower volumes, with normal ears might not notice much of it, but not everyone! I have to believe if this was a comprehensive problem more folks would be noticing it?
    So fortunately it’s probably not a problem for most, and unfortunately, because it’s sometimes hard for just a few to get acknowledgment of such a unusual idiosyncrasy.
    Ugggggg, my brain hurts from this release pulling me in two such diverse directions!
    Luckily I have several hundred other shows to listen too ; )
    Would love to hear if anyone else out there is experiencing this same problem?

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    Got my replacement Daves 38, big thanks to MaryE and Doc Rhino for taking care of me.....Have listened to it all three times and this is an AWESOME release. One of the best Birdsongs ever, can’t stop playing it. Great first version of WRS and Let it Grow. The bonus disc is fantastic, been listening to that eyes almost every night for the last week, killer version.
    I agree with the calls foe a fall 72 box or the Ark.....please Dave😊

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    Fun story about the duck "calls". Never even noticed or heard about it. To me what is famous about the show is Bobby's intro to Jack-a-Roe. Very inventive and the kind of stuff Jerry was probably watching and listening closely to and would weave into the fills. Not sure I even caught the significance of it until Phil brought it up in the "Phil Zone" CD.
    Latvala! And cheers!
    EDIT: Listening to Fox Theatre Atlanta 5-18-77 now and blown away by The Other One > Brokedown. Source is a tape recorded in 1994 from the GD Hour radio show. David Gans must have been using DAT direct from the vault source as the sound is amazing for a TDK DS-X100 tape. (recorded in Dolby C, but I don't often use the Dolby on replay as it dulls the treble too much) Unfortunately David Gans was not allowed to offer whole shows back then as I recall.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 02:35

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That was fast. Unless the site is having one of its periodic glitches.
Perhaps the big year mentioned by Dave is a holiday and they’re not doing a box set this year. Only joking. He needs to get a better camera so he can share the bird life with us more fully.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 06:10

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I am not surprised. NY has it's fair share of rabid dead fans. Remember how quick the Giants Box sold out? I bet there are a large number of people there that night that scored this Dave's Picks. Plus, prime 1973.

..and yea, mhammond, dead at 53 but he looked 70. I think VGuy just had a bday and commented he is outliving Jerry this year. Life is precious, play dead.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 06:23

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Madonna shirts and daisy dukes. He was so utterly cool in hippie mode circa '72 . What the heck happened. That man should file a law suit against the 1980s. Last laugh is probably on us - he probably went out with both of them.

I'm a sucker for these Dead t-shirts. They should really just make them a Dave's Picks early bird subscription option. Check off a box and get your t-shirt for 15 bucks. And coffee cups. Regular 'ol coffee cups, 12 bucks with early bird subscription. And daisy dukes - 3 bucks for your souvenir pair of daisy dukes....

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 07:03

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From the Urban Dictionary: "Daisy Dukes" are extremely short, form-fitting, denim cut-off shorts worn by young women.

And Bobby. Oh dear. Didn't he know?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 07:33

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She looked hot in her short shorts.
She can be excluded from any lawsuits filed against the 1980’s.

Sold out.
I’m surprised it took so long.
But why has PNW not sold out? It’s totally worth the price.

53 going on 73. Yeah, Jerry got old fast. Too fast.
And then there’s Bob, who now looks like Jerry but is in better physical shape than a lot of people in their 50’s. Including me. But I do keep saying that I’m going to start exercising…..
Does mowing the lawn count as exercise? Because I’m going to do that today. With a push mower, not a fancy John Deere like Jim has.

I swear by 16 once curls...
Thanks for the song list, happy to see HCSS on there ; )

It blows my mind that PNW hasn’t sold out?

Bobs Shorts; one of the many things the wife doesn’t like about Bob lol.

VGUY; careful bra, don’t go jinxing yourself

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:16

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Here it is first of May,
Out door fucking starts today!

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Submitted by stillwaters on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:27

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Anyone got a good scan of the 2021 bonus disc? Couldn't find one.

Many Mahalos

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:43

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I wasn't too crazy about his choice of guitar, either. He still did more in the decade than I did, though.

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Submitted by caniol on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:52

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Received my shipping notice early this morning. By mid-morning DaP38 was in my mailbox! Ripping it right now! I'm happy!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:13

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Finally got a shipping notice a few minutes ago – #38 is shipping via the dreaded 'Mail Innovations', so hopefully will arrive by the end of the week??? Whenever it gets here, I'll do the Scan & Tweak Boogie and post a link to Dave's 38 and the 2021 Bonus CD. A kind brother remembered me here at the end of the road, so I've already started to listen. The Bonus CD from 9/7 is absolutely killer – it was on continuous play for two days. As a “Seventies Second Set” kinda guy, I’m now starting to work through Set 1 of 9/8, with my eyes/ears on the prize: Set 2! Onward.

delivery scheduled for Monday and, que sorpresa, its in my PO Box here in the intermountain west when I stopped by at noon. that bonus disc is chock full of goodness. yea Oro really glad to have that Here Comes Sunshine. thanks for the sticker Dave - happy subscriber since Day 1

enjoy the weekend everybody. onward!!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:45

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I don't understand why they stopped doing Prelude. What's an extra five minutes. Some classic Bobby /Jerry guitar stuff going on.

I just got to Disc 2. I've been enjoying the mix so much that I keep re-listening Disc 1. It sounds extraordinary to me. I can't really hear Keith at all until Eyes of the World. Weir's guitar is about as loud as I've ever heard it. Agree with you Daverock on his later era guitars. I would love to know how Jerry felt about Bobby putting down the Gibson ES guitars. Did he encourage it, did he discourage it? Bobby's sound got thinner and thinner after 1974. In interviews I've heard him say that the post-hiatus two drummer configuration forced him to find a different sound to really have any playing space that wouldn't get drowned out. I guess that makes sense on paper, but I just can't imagine the Gibsons sounding bad. I wonder if Jerry was set on using the Travis Bean and decided Weir's Gibsons were too loud or didn't harmonize well with the TB. In any case this show is a Bobby showcase of sorts and I like what he's up to.

Anyone notice Donna seems lower than usual? I haven't gotten to Playing in the Band yet...we'll see how that goes. She usually comes in kind of high on Weather Report Suite, so it's nice to hear her at a normal level that doesn't overwhelm Bobby's vocals. Someone here once said she never sounded as loud at the shows as she does on the two-track soundboard releases we're accustomed to. Anyway, not complaining, I like Donna, just listening and thinking out loud.

Speaking of aweather Report Suite, I noticed the ending didn't have the "wind down" part they normally play. I need to go back to the Pacific Northwest shows and see if they just hadn't developed it yet (I've never actually listened to the studio version to know for sure).

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:58

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https://i2.wp.com/www.deadheadland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Bob-W…

Think that is from VFTV4.

I remember reading a while back a story about that. Madonna had "created," huh, the style of ripping/cutting the neckline/collar out of shirts in her videos. I dont know the exact timeline, but I think it was kind of a jab at MTV, or an inside joke, maybe for throngs of new fans after touch of gray video. I always took it that Bob was demonstrating that we are huge, and completely underground. We didnt need MTV but we will take indoctrinating a whole new group of heads. I have no idea. Madonna was still "shiny and new." The fellas were old and scruffy.

MY one memory of this is Buckeye lake 1988. Not sure Bobby was wearing a Madonna shirt but he was wearing a shirt with neck cut out. I have written before that I did not particularly like this show, I think it was icecreamcone, that liked it a lot. No problems there. I hated the size of the crowd, easily over 100,000. It was hot and dry as all get out, and a lot of pollen from dry grass being trampled on. But tapes turned out great. Dan actually had no problem with us setting up in front of him because we did not obstruct his view, due to slope of the hill and height of the board tent. Bob comes out with shirt and jorts (daisy dukes), and his new hot pink strat. I really loved the Stranger. The sound was tight, PA excellently mixed. Bob starts wearing out the wammy bar. Nice tight opener. I am indifferent about the pink strat, there is info out there on it being a gift, but I cant remember from whom. I just liked the tone. Bob had been moving to a little more distortion to counter Jerry's progression in effects. Always preferred Bob to be cleaner like hi 70's sound.

Guess what he looked like at Buckeye...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=igftaRYY&id=5FEB2…

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Submitted by snafu on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:07

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Who knew smack, base, Chili dogs, and 3 packs of camels a day wasn't health food.
That beats FZ'S Winston's, coffee and unlimited hot dogs.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:24

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DaP 38 + Bonus just got sorted at the regional UPS facility, hopefully will head its way to the Post office In the next few days. Caved in for the shirt just for good measure, I love the artwork on Wake of the Flood and the shirt is a great ohmage to that!

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Submitted by RV3 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:45

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Okay, 38 is sold out.....no real need to talk about anymore. I’m not really a 1973 fan, and frankly we have known what it was going to be since December 2020.
NOW LETS TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING BOX SET!!!!! My guess is 1980, I mean really it’s time!!! They have done a Box Set(multiple) from every year of the 1970s except 1979.....BRING ON THAT 1980 BOX ALREADY!! I would also guess Dave Pick #39 is from 1982 or 1985 specifically: 9/20/82 or 6/16/85 - BRING ON SOME NEW RELEASE NEWS, not releases we’ve know about since last December....and sorry Skull & Roses 50th is just pathetic amount of additional material.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:48

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Nice description of the scene etc. if you were in front of the board we must of seen each other. I had just broken my ankle so was on crutches, just to the right of you (I’m guessing?)
I’ve grown to love that show, at least the first set? But my recollection of that day was clouded by my discomfort (in reality I probably wasn’t feeling much lol), made worse by the weather/venue conditions which you elude to...
But as years go by from the comforts of home, this one has grown on me...
Kinda cool second set opening with the three new songs in a row, and of course this was a big historic Bruce day in GD history.

BOBS GUITARS; sorry, I really dug the “80”s Modulus Guitars Bob played, especially the Black Knife he played in 85 etc,
I dug/dig the ES 335 jazz sound probably the best? Relatively speaking, Not a fan of either of their other Gibsons mostly because they were constantly out of tune! Used to dig the Ibanez more, but that hasn’t suffered time as well. Hit or miss with later years, as he was getting too thin and Marshall/distorty. Not like once in a awhile but much of the time. IMHO he’s gotten worse with it with time. Never was a fan of the overly thin, glassy “Fender” sound...Jimmy H had a little too much of that for my liking. Always felt JGs Strat sound ala 72/73 was the best use of a Fender EVER!
But what I don’t think folks understand was how much the electronics influence the sound, especially in Bobs case, so much of what y’all are describing is due to that as much as the guitars sound...
I know he was always trying to find his own niche sonically as they knew not to just blast away at the same frequencies as the other instruments. Like just the right match of spices and ingredients in a fine stew! So it was often hard for him to carve out his own sonic turf.
Interesting about his comments pertaining to the drums as it always seemed more like he changed due to keyboard technology more than anything....

BOBS rock star fashion line...never could make up my mind weather he was just being a prankster, or wake up late like a drunken frat boy and throw on whatevers less dirty, but still try to be Mick, without spending all day trying to be Mick, like Mick would do lol...
I can see it, Bobs ride to the airport shows up just as he gets home from rugby/beach volleyball whatever, (the vans already there waiting) and Bob runs in a and grabs a duffle bag and starts throwing in a few of whatever’s handy, while still wearing wait he played rugby in lol.
JG on the other hand probably just has under ware and maybe socks, possibly in the briefcase, definitely spends more time on his briefcase lol, and has Steve bye him new pocket tees/undies as needed, leaving them in the hotels as they go!
I did merch on the road with a guy who did that...left with what he was wearing and would hit up Wally World every few days and leave the dirty stuff behind...

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Submitted by dissident1980 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 13:17

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It's a beautiful release. Discs 2, 3 and the bonus are sublime. Many thanks Dave et al.

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Submitted by Huskerwing on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 13:31

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Is there no phone number to call now when my shipment goes missing? I got tracking and followed the package all the way up to my local post office on 4/26. Went down there yesterday was told they would have to do investigation. Even though tracking shows the package scanned into the system AT that post office.... It's not there. I went to call customer service today and can't find a number at the store. Is the only way to get help to use that form?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 14:31

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I think a 1973 May box set is a real possibility, if not this year within the near future. Des Moines, Santa Barbara, and San Francisco, 5/13, 20, 26/73, all killer shows. A nine CD box set, each show would take up 3 cds. Dave even mentioned these shows in his last seaside talk.

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Submitted by Jack Baller on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 16:56

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Keep the faith, I had them Shipping Notice Blues all week but it finally arrived, rather quickly.

And it is fantastic indeed, I have been looking forward to this exact day for a long time.

This show rips.

Here are my cover scans, I couldn't find ones I liked online. I know that JeffSmith and others will be posting better ones soon, but these are for the impatient like me...

DP 38 cover: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BdSLUk9PBtLgWM5FA9kyhmrijA5ORvPt/view?…

DP 38 bonus disc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LZ3Hg4MDyHMbOP63qOLRgKxZnWUWdF_g/view?…

By the way, I love the way BTK is thinking about that 73 box set.

....going bonus first because it was a beautiful day today with lots of Sunshine. First ever Let It Grow is very cool. Is this the first Dicks or Dave's featuring a debut? 🤔
Annalee posted about his Dave's arriving soaked. So far, that seems to have been a fluke. Godspeed Annalee.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 18:07

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I think it's a great idea but I don't think any of those shows will fit on just 3 cds. 4 cds each. Fine with me. Epic shows.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 18:17

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You and I think alike

May 73

Ja gerne

All is good. MaryE got Dr. Rhino on it. I sent in a picture of my water logged Dave’s and I am supposed to get another sent to me.
Really weird, it seemed like the cardboard box holding the sealed CDs was in a puddle for an hour or two before it was put in the mailer. I cleaned up the CDs the best I could and the only disc that plays without skipping is the first set. I listened to the other discs and dealt with the skipping and it was worth it for now, great release, awesome bonus disc. While listening I thought back to all the shows I saw in the rain, tripping balls and having a blast and having wet CDs didn’t seem like a big deal.............presently listening to the summer 71 RT, good stuff

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:00

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If someone gifted Bobby a guitar, my first guess would be Joe Walsh. Seems like I'm always reading about him giving away guitars (Jimmy Page, Pete Townshend).

Vguy - first '73 Bird Song was released on PNW Box Set. Also DaP 30 from 1/2/70 (+ Bonus Disc) has both the last St. Stephen to feature the William Tell section and the first St. Stephen played without it.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:18

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And now for something completely different. I have always used bronner's Castile soap on tour because it works and smells great. I just bought a new bottle and on the label it says 'we support psychedelic-assisted therapies to heal the soul'. Pretty cool.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:33

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....look up psychedelic soap.
Annalee. Grate news. Tripping balls listening to "wet CDs". Evens out.
Keithfan. Firsts on Daves/Dicks. Three From The Vault doesn't count.
Watching hockey. Vegas Golden Knights are pretty good.
75% capacity next home game hopefully. Covid made the news move fast.
Game On!

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Submitted by kyleharmon on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 20:56

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I had to call customer service for Dave's 3 when I patiently waited for a month. After calling it showed up shortly

This puppy sold out in less than 24 hours and with 25k that is pretty impressive. Clearly there is a lot of demand for these releases. I still have the dreaded label created, no tracking..... Hoping for the best.
Zero information in the Seaside Chat regarding this year's box set, other than something to the effect 2021 is going to be a great year. May 1, today, so let's get it going.

How about an August 1, MUATM?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 22:40

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....is nonstop fire.
The Greatest Story Ever Told.
It all rolls into one.
Daves 5 has some competition.
Happy Camper here.
And I'm only at He's Gone

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 23:12

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I am still digesting this cornucopia of music. The bonus disk is just Devine.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 23:34

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....Yumm. Probly cost 10 bucks to go.
Editttt. At the twelve minute mark EXACTLY during PITB, they take a dark, sinister turn. That's what I hear anyway.
I search high and lo for this facet.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 02:51

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For anybody mindful of anniversaries, who hasn't got Dave's 38 yet, listening to 5/2/70 is a good way of whiling away a few hours. Just as 4/28/71 may have been the best show of the 5 man version of the band ( that's 5 plus one, of course), 5/2/70 may have been the best show played by the 6 man 1970 version. Note "may"-diplomacy at work.

Bill the Kid-like that May 1973 box suggestion.

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Submitted by SWR on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 06:45

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Got the shipping notice on 4/26 and it only updated a few times before getting here on 5/1, no big deal but it looks like that's the trend going forward because DP 37 did the same.
Great energy through this whole show! 1st disc highlights for me were Sugaree, Tennessee Jed, and Row Jimmy. Jerry has got a growl going at the end of Row Jimmy, get down row! 2nd and 3rd discs have too many highlights to mention, I think this may be my favorite Dave's Picks so far and I still haven't got to the bonus disc yet!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 08:51

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Daverock, I just happened to get DiP 8 5/2/70 and DiP 23 9/17/72, along with the much lesser known Cowboy sophomore album 5'll Getcha Ten from Real Gone yesterday, and listened to 5/2/70 from Cold Jordan on to the end. Man, what a show! It's been a while since I listened, and I can't recall listening that intently before. Next to last version of Viola Lee, and they ratchet it up to 11, and end appropriately with Bid You Goodnight. Will probably be putting on that Baltimore '72 show for the 39 min Other One> Sing Me Back Home before any movement occurs on my Dave's 38, but looking forward to its arrival...

The Cowboy album is pretty good. Mainly got it because Duane Allman appears on two tracks, one of which, Please Be With Me, is one of the last things he recorded, and some sweet, sweet dobro is on there. Eric Clapton even put a cover of it on his 461 Ocean Boulevard album.

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