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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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    38 production issues cont....

    Wow, lol, this is all over the place.
    I’ve tried twice to go through with the intention of noting precise instances with pad and paper, but didn’t because I didn’t want to waste a whole day on this but it obviously needs to be done lol. The situation is the boss!
    It’s a dirty job but somebody needs to do it, so guess that’s what I’m doing today lol.
    First, a few reply’s in an attempt to clear some things up or perhaps get more of us on the same page?

    - FIRST THE SOUND: there is nothing wrong with the “sound” of this, it’s some kind of production anomaly that hurts the “sound”
    - THE LEVELS TOO HIGH: I don’t believe this is the problems since the peak level is at -1db, which is perfect. You’ll notice on discs that are over mastered set at 0db with hard compression to make them LOUDER. IMHO this style of mastering is obnoxious and sucks! There has been much discussion on this the last ten years or so about this elsewhere if your interested. I stopped buying “remastered” stuff after getting some Floyd and Stones Some Girls since they sound like shit. All their doing is compressing the hell out of the mix to make it louder, but that ruins the dynamic range, which is one of the most important elements of good music I.e., see the GD! Luckily, the GOGD folks don’t do this!
    - BAD COMPRESSION: sometimes if the recording levels were too low there can be a bad signal to noise ratio. You’ve all probably heard this with a beloved tape that you have to turn up extra loud to hear, which then makes tape noise and hiss super noticeable. BITD sometimes folks would use a compressor. This cuts off some of the level peaks but boosts some of the quieter sounds, hopefully making the ratio of noise to sound more tolerable. But there are limits to how much you can use this method without causing hard compression or limiting which can cause the processor to distort.
    This is referring to all analog too, digital is even more unforgiving about clipping etc. I wouldn’t think they’d use this methodology on a distributed piece of professional work, but it could be possible? If they wanted this show released bad enough and the tape was noisy...? And/or If they felt that the vast majority of people would never notice it, who knows?
    - TYPICAL 73: agree, besides these issues, and perhaps some differences in the mix I.e., Bob is really nicely present, this sounds very 73...
    - THE MIX: this is not the mix. Whatever your feelings are on the mix, that isn’t the problem
    - THE USUAL: yes there are the “usual” “dropouts”, “unevenness”, etc, but none of these or the usual stuff people comment on, are the problem, this is different. In all my years I’ve never experienced this!
    - WASHY: not sure what that means, but I doubt that’s it either. Washy sounds like more of the “normal” idiosyncrasies found on 50 year old non professionally recorded tape.
    - WOBBLY: : same with this, not sure exactly what is meant as I’ve never heard it used in professional audio terms before lol, but I’m guessing it’s same as above in that it’s a “normal” item that occasionally is noticeable? If it’s meant in regards to variable tape speed issues, that is not the problem we’re referring to here.
    -“IN THE BEGINNING”: this problem has nothing to do with the often occurrence of the mix taking awhile to be dialed in by the mixer etc.
    DARK-STAR: though there is definitely a clipping factor here, I can assure you it’s not due to amplifier clipping. My MC 601 mono blocks have circuitry to prevent clipping, plus, I don’t push them that loud. That’s the whole point of having 600 watt amps, headroom! It’s all about phat tone, not volume! I don’t like super loud anymore, so I find around 90 db peaks or so at the listening position of about 7-8’ is plenty loud. At that volume, the amp meters usually are registering 60 watt peaks, so no where near clipping.
    I’m curious what you mean about your equalizer “evening” out the sound besides the eq? I’m assuming you have some kind of limiter in the unit? I’m curious what unit your using? EQ itself has nothing to do with this problem.

    A little info on EQ though: it is usually used for 1 of 2 reasons; professionally, it is used as little as possible to tune a room, like a studio or dedicated listening room using sophisticated analyzers and testing equipment.
    The second general use is for preference; the way many of you use it to suit your personal taste influenced by the gear, and speakers/headphones your using. It is also used similarly to mix individual sources for live and recorded music. Though live EQ is also used for room issues, it is more often used to “color” sound to preference, not to make things accurate. Whole nother thing there that the reader can look up about accurate vs “good” sound...
    But research increasingly shows that phase/timing issues are the biggest negative factor on sound and unfortunately EQ can cause unwanted phase issues. If you ever wondered why Mickeys studio stuff is the gold standard it’s because he doesn’t use EQ but instead painstakingly uses appropriate mics and mic placement. If you must use EQ, you should try to cut prominent frequency’s instead of boosting others. Like turn down the bass versus turning up the treble. You should never boost if possible. The little op amps in the knobs were not intended to be used as amplifiers, but that’s what your doing when you boost! Sorry, I don’t explain this stuff vert well. So if your having to boost all those upper frequencies, no offense, but you might have bad sounding speakers and/or significant hearing loss, something more common in us older folks than most might be aware of. Like you could have hearing loss and not even realize it unless you get tested! Of course all that really matters is if your happy with your rig, no matter how much or how little it costs etc, the only thing that matters is if your happy with it!
    - SMALL BATCHES: I disagree that it’s not possible for damaged small batches. Yes their using the same master, that’s why it’s called a master, but that doesn’t mean that batches of blank/raw discs couldn’t be flawed or that somehow a setting got changed during the master transferring. I don’t think it’s the former but could be the latter?
    It could be something as esoteric as there were weird power issues on the grid at the plant during part of the run? Again, I don’t think that’d be the case as any real professional facility would have isolated, professionally treated power, but it’s an example of the many weird things that can happen with electronics and electricity that most folks have no idea about.
    HOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING: what your listening on may well be a factor if your not hearing it, but I doubt this is caused by what your listening on. This is definitely a production issue, either on the original tape, or during the subsequent production.
    I’m still wondering if they ever used a limiter and/or compressor on the original recording? It would make sense to have one since Kidd et el can’t be sitting there the whole time riding the mix like that. These guys had other responsibilities, so to ensure that something/someone doesn’t occasionally clip the recording, using a soft limit could smooth out those occasional peaks. But there are limits to this (no pun intended), if someone turns up significantly louder, it’ll still clip and can cause audible distortion by overdriving the limiter/compressor etc.
    This to me would explain the phenomena. If your sharing a unit via a aux mix on a mixing console, that means everything, all sources potentially get bussed through that unit. If the unit isn’t set just right, any time anything engages the unit, there could be audible artifacts caused by this. That’s why I think this may be it, since it’s not effecting only one source, and it’s not everything all the time. It’s effecting most sources but not all the time...

    LOL, being such an audio nut, not knowing what’s going on is more annoying to me than the actual problem, though I think it’s bad enough that I’ll need to look into replacements. It is definitely very interesting, at least to this geek!
    Anyway, I’ll go through song by song and document as much as I can and report back.

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    GD, zits and all

    play on
    play on
    play on

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    A Sound Technician Walks Into A Bar…

    Jeffrey Norman walks into a bar, and orders a beer. The bartender takes one look at him, and says, “Ok!! But I don’t want to hear any problems from you!!”

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    To All Those With Issues Regarding The Sound

    Please read the caveat emptor for Dick's Pick's.

    We now return to our regularly scheduled program.

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    I hear some loud hi-hat in places. Like the beginning of Jack Straw. If you get a chance can tell me if you hear the same kind of loud symbols on the "Big Railroad Blues" on PNW boxed set June 24, 1973 Portland? I sure do.

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    That is pretty much what I currently have.

    About 6-7 years ago, I was looking for a new car. Well, new to me. Buying a new car is one of the biggest rip-offs known to mankind. You are much better off purchasing a slightly used one for a 1/3 or more less. Anyway, I went about my search by bringing a copy of DaP1 to the dealerships. The whole point was that since I spend so much time in the car, I wanted a nice sound system. I would simply turn on the car and listen to the music. After a minute or so, the salesperson would ask if I was ready for a drive. "Not needed" I would reply to a perplexed look. "Thank you for your time." Most wanted thousands more for an upgraded sound system. I wound up going with Acura because the sound was excellent and the price was significantly lower.

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    Ha!

    Jim, you had me at "There is really only one solution". I sensed some chortle-worthy shenanigans on the way.

    Awesome Version Alert -

    My favorite part of Casey Jones is the finale where they repeat the chorus a bunch of times and everyone joins in and plays "denser" I guess you would say. The combo of Pigpen's Hammond, Jerry and Bobby laying it on thick, and Keith's piano gradually building in tempo - it's just fantastic on this night.

    I think Pigpen was really wielding that Hammond with some exceptional skill at that point. Never flashy, but he could play fast at need, was always on time, and always picked his spots with musical know-how. That was quite a period when they had both Keith and Pigpen playing together.

    Edit - whoops - would help if I provided a date - 5/18/72. I'm still rummaging through that show.

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    lol moment last night

    went to bed early
    had my phone on archive 5/13/83 set two
    she comes up later
    I am asleep
    Space is full steam
    She hisses: "THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!! THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!!"

    uh, ok. I'll just turn it off....

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    Re: AJS

    Clearly you need the Wall of Sound Mobile Edition T (C) (R).

    https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/382735668306627856/

    Pimp up your ride.

    (......honey, I got us a new car!)

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    So, I listened to the release in the car this morning. Now I am more baffled by the fact that most folks can't seem to hear the distortion. The best way I can describe it, as I stated in my initial post, is that the cymbals are way to high in the mix. It's quite a nuisance. I also recant my earlier comment on the problem not being on the 9/7 release. It is very evident on HCS. Hell, even our dog can hear it.

    It's a shame because it detracts from an otherwise fine release.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 02:35

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That was fast. Unless the site is having one of its periodic glitches.
Perhaps the big year mentioned by Dave is a holiday and they’re not doing a box set this year. Only joking. He needs to get a better camera so he can share the bird life with us more fully.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 06:10

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I am not surprised. NY has it's fair share of rabid dead fans. Remember how quick the Giants Box sold out? I bet there are a large number of people there that night that scored this Dave's Picks. Plus, prime 1973.

..and yea, mhammond, dead at 53 but he looked 70. I think VGuy just had a bday and commented he is outliving Jerry this year. Life is precious, play dead.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 06:23

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Madonna shirts and daisy dukes. He was so utterly cool in hippie mode circa '72 . What the heck happened. That man should file a law suit against the 1980s. Last laugh is probably on us - he probably went out with both of them.

I'm a sucker for these Dead t-shirts. They should really just make them a Dave's Picks early bird subscription option. Check off a box and get your t-shirt for 15 bucks. And coffee cups. Regular 'ol coffee cups, 12 bucks with early bird subscription. And daisy dukes - 3 bucks for your souvenir pair of daisy dukes....

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 07:03

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From the Urban Dictionary: "Daisy Dukes" are extremely short, form-fitting, denim cut-off shorts worn by young women.

And Bobby. Oh dear. Didn't he know?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 07:33

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She looked hot in her short shorts.
She can be excluded from any lawsuits filed against the 1980’s.

Sold out.
I’m surprised it took so long.
But why has PNW not sold out? It’s totally worth the price.

53 going on 73. Yeah, Jerry got old fast. Too fast.
And then there’s Bob, who now looks like Jerry but is in better physical shape than a lot of people in their 50’s. Including me. But I do keep saying that I’m going to start exercising…..
Does mowing the lawn count as exercise? Because I’m going to do that today. With a push mower, not a fancy John Deere like Jim has.

I swear by 16 once curls...
Thanks for the song list, happy to see HCSS on there ; )

It blows my mind that PNW hasn’t sold out?

Bobs Shorts; one of the many things the wife doesn’t like about Bob lol.

VGUY; careful bra, don’t go jinxing yourself

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:16

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Here it is first of May,
Out door fucking starts today!

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Submitted by stillwaters on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:27

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Anyone got a good scan of the 2021 bonus disc? Couldn't find one.

Many Mahalos

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:43

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I wasn't too crazy about his choice of guitar, either. He still did more in the decade than I did, though.

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Submitted by caniol on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 10:52

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Received my shipping notice early this morning. By mid-morning DaP38 was in my mailbox! Ripping it right now! I'm happy!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:13

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Finally got a shipping notice a few minutes ago – #38 is shipping via the dreaded 'Mail Innovations', so hopefully will arrive by the end of the week??? Whenever it gets here, I'll do the Scan & Tweak Boogie and post a link to Dave's 38 and the 2021 Bonus CD. A kind brother remembered me here at the end of the road, so I've already started to listen. The Bonus CD from 9/7 is absolutely killer – it was on continuous play for two days. As a “Seventies Second Set” kinda guy, I’m now starting to work through Set 1 of 9/8, with my eyes/ears on the prize: Set 2! Onward.

delivery scheduled for Monday and, que sorpresa, its in my PO Box here in the intermountain west when I stopped by at noon. that bonus disc is chock full of goodness. yea Oro really glad to have that Here Comes Sunshine. thanks for the sticker Dave - happy subscriber since Day 1

enjoy the weekend everybody. onward!!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:45

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I don't understand why they stopped doing Prelude. What's an extra five minutes. Some classic Bobby /Jerry guitar stuff going on.

I just got to Disc 2. I've been enjoying the mix so much that I keep re-listening Disc 1. It sounds extraordinary to me. I can't really hear Keith at all until Eyes of the World. Weir's guitar is about as loud as I've ever heard it. Agree with you Daverock on his later era guitars. I would love to know how Jerry felt about Bobby putting down the Gibson ES guitars. Did he encourage it, did he discourage it? Bobby's sound got thinner and thinner after 1974. In interviews I've heard him say that the post-hiatus two drummer configuration forced him to find a different sound to really have any playing space that wouldn't get drowned out. I guess that makes sense on paper, but I just can't imagine the Gibsons sounding bad. I wonder if Jerry was set on using the Travis Bean and decided Weir's Gibsons were too loud or didn't harmonize well with the TB. In any case this show is a Bobby showcase of sorts and I like what he's up to.

Anyone notice Donna seems lower than usual? I haven't gotten to Playing in the Band yet...we'll see how that goes. She usually comes in kind of high on Weather Report Suite, so it's nice to hear her at a normal level that doesn't overwhelm Bobby's vocals. Someone here once said she never sounded as loud at the shows as she does on the two-track soundboard releases we're accustomed to. Anyway, not complaining, I like Donna, just listening and thinking out loud.

Speaking of aweather Report Suite, I noticed the ending didn't have the "wind down" part they normally play. I need to go back to the Pacific Northwest shows and see if they just hadn't developed it yet (I've never actually listened to the studio version to know for sure).

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 11:58

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Think that is from VFTV4.

I remember reading a while back a story about that. Madonna had "created," huh, the style of ripping/cutting the neckline/collar out of shirts in her videos. I dont know the exact timeline, but I think it was kind of a jab at MTV, or an inside joke, maybe for throngs of new fans after touch of gray video. I always took it that Bob was demonstrating that we are huge, and completely underground. We didnt need MTV but we will take indoctrinating a whole new group of heads. I have no idea. Madonna was still "shiny and new." The fellas were old and scruffy.

MY one memory of this is Buckeye lake 1988. Not sure Bobby was wearing a Madonna shirt but he was wearing a shirt with neck cut out. I have written before that I did not particularly like this show, I think it was icecreamcone, that liked it a lot. No problems there. I hated the size of the crowd, easily over 100,000. It was hot and dry as all get out, and a lot of pollen from dry grass being trampled on. But tapes turned out great. Dan actually had no problem with us setting up in front of him because we did not obstruct his view, due to slope of the hill and height of the board tent. Bob comes out with shirt and jorts (daisy dukes), and his new hot pink strat. I really loved the Stranger. The sound was tight, PA excellently mixed. Bob starts wearing out the wammy bar. Nice tight opener. I am indifferent about the pink strat, there is info out there on it being a gift, but I cant remember from whom. I just liked the tone. Bob had been moving to a little more distortion to counter Jerry's progression in effects. Always preferred Bob to be cleaner like hi 70's sound.

Guess what he looked like at Buckeye...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=igftaRYY&id=5FEB2…

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Submitted by snafu on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:07

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Who knew smack, base, Chili dogs, and 3 packs of camels a day wasn't health food.
That beats FZ'S Winston's, coffee and unlimited hot dogs.

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:24

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DaP 38 + Bonus just got sorted at the regional UPS facility, hopefully will head its way to the Post office In the next few days. Caved in for the shirt just for good measure, I love the artwork on Wake of the Flood and the shirt is a great ohmage to that!

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Submitted by RV3 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:45

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Okay, 38 is sold out.....no real need to talk about anymore. I’m not really a 1973 fan, and frankly we have known what it was going to be since December 2020.
NOW LETS TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING BOX SET!!!!! My guess is 1980, I mean really it’s time!!! They have done a Box Set(multiple) from every year of the 1970s except 1979.....BRING ON THAT 1980 BOX ALREADY!! I would also guess Dave Pick #39 is from 1982 or 1985 specifically: 9/20/82 or 6/16/85 - BRING ON SOME NEW RELEASE NEWS, not releases we’ve know about since last December....and sorry Skull & Roses 50th is just pathetic amount of additional material.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 12:48

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Nice description of the scene etc. if you were in front of the board we must of seen each other. I had just broken my ankle so was on crutches, just to the right of you (I’m guessing?)
I’ve grown to love that show, at least the first set? But my recollection of that day was clouded by my discomfort (in reality I probably wasn’t feeling much lol), made worse by the weather/venue conditions which you elude to...
But as years go by from the comforts of home, this one has grown on me...
Kinda cool second set opening with the three new songs in a row, and of course this was a big historic Bruce day in GD history.

BOBS GUITARS; sorry, I really dug the “80”s Modulus Guitars Bob played, especially the Black Knife he played in 85 etc,
I dug/dig the ES 335 jazz sound probably the best? Relatively speaking, Not a fan of either of their other Gibsons mostly because they were constantly out of tune! Used to dig the Ibanez more, but that hasn’t suffered time as well. Hit or miss with later years, as he was getting too thin and Marshall/distorty. Not like once in a awhile but much of the time. IMHO he’s gotten worse with it with time. Never was a fan of the overly thin, glassy “Fender” sound...Jimmy H had a little too much of that for my liking. Always felt JGs Strat sound ala 72/73 was the best use of a Fender EVER!
But what I don’t think folks understand was how much the electronics influence the sound, especially in Bobs case, so much of what y’all are describing is due to that as much as the guitars sound...
I know he was always trying to find his own niche sonically as they knew not to just blast away at the same frequencies as the other instruments. Like just the right match of spices and ingredients in a fine stew! So it was often hard for him to carve out his own sonic turf.
Interesting about his comments pertaining to the drums as it always seemed more like he changed due to keyboard technology more than anything....

BOBS rock star fashion line...never could make up my mind weather he was just being a prankster, or wake up late like a drunken frat boy and throw on whatevers less dirty, but still try to be Mick, without spending all day trying to be Mick, like Mick would do lol...
I can see it, Bobs ride to the airport shows up just as he gets home from rugby/beach volleyball whatever, (the vans already there waiting) and Bob runs in a and grabs a duffle bag and starts throwing in a few of whatever’s handy, while still wearing wait he played rugby in lol.
JG on the other hand probably just has under ware and maybe socks, possibly in the briefcase, definitely spends more time on his briefcase lol, and has Steve bye him new pocket tees/undies as needed, leaving them in the hotels as they go!
I did merch on the road with a guy who did that...left with what he was wearing and would hit up Wally World every few days and leave the dirty stuff behind...

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Submitted by dissident1980 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 13:17

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It's a beautiful release. Discs 2, 3 and the bonus are sublime. Many thanks Dave et al.

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Submitted by Huskerwing on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 13:31

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Is there no phone number to call now when my shipment goes missing? I got tracking and followed the package all the way up to my local post office on 4/26. Went down there yesterday was told they would have to do investigation. Even though tracking shows the package scanned into the system AT that post office.... It's not there. I went to call customer service today and can't find a number at the store. Is the only way to get help to use that form?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 14:31

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I think a 1973 May box set is a real possibility, if not this year within the near future. Des Moines, Santa Barbara, and San Francisco, 5/13, 20, 26/73, all killer shows. A nine CD box set, each show would take up 3 cds. Dave even mentioned these shows in his last seaside talk.

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Submitted by Jack Baller on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 16:56

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Keep the faith, I had them Shipping Notice Blues all week but it finally arrived, rather quickly.

And it is fantastic indeed, I have been looking forward to this exact day for a long time.

This show rips.

Here are my cover scans, I couldn't find ones I liked online. I know that JeffSmith and others will be posting better ones soon, but these are for the impatient like me...

DP 38 cover: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BdSLUk9PBtLgWM5FA9kyhmrijA5ORvPt/view?…

DP 38 bonus disc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LZ3Hg4MDyHMbOP63qOLRgKxZnWUWdF_g/view?…

By the way, I love the way BTK is thinking about that 73 box set.

....going bonus first because it was a beautiful day today with lots of Sunshine. First ever Let It Grow is very cool. Is this the first Dicks or Dave's featuring a debut? 🤔
Annalee posted about his Dave's arriving soaked. So far, that seems to have been a fluke. Godspeed Annalee.

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Submitted by mhammond12 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 18:07

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I think it's a great idea but I don't think any of those shows will fit on just 3 cds. 4 cds each. Fine with me. Epic shows.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 18:17

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You and I think alike

May 73

Ja gerne

All is good. MaryE got Dr. Rhino on it. I sent in a picture of my water logged Dave’s and I am supposed to get another sent to me.
Really weird, it seemed like the cardboard box holding the sealed CDs was in a puddle for an hour or two before it was put in the mailer. I cleaned up the CDs the best I could and the only disc that plays without skipping is the first set. I listened to the other discs and dealt with the skipping and it was worth it for now, great release, awesome bonus disc. While listening I thought back to all the shows I saw in the rain, tripping balls and having a blast and having wet CDs didn’t seem like a big deal.............presently listening to the summer 71 RT, good stuff

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:00

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If someone gifted Bobby a guitar, my first guess would be Joe Walsh. Seems like I'm always reading about him giving away guitars (Jimmy Page, Pete Townshend).

Vguy - first '73 Bird Song was released on PNW Box Set. Also DaP 30 from 1/2/70 (+ Bonus Disc) has both the last St. Stephen to feature the William Tell section and the first St. Stephen played without it.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:18

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And now for something completely different. I have always used bronner's Castile soap on tour because it works and smells great. I just bought a new bottle and on the label it says 'we support psychedelic-assisted therapies to heal the soul'. Pretty cool.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 19:33

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....look up psychedelic soap.
Annalee. Grate news. Tripping balls listening to "wet CDs". Evens out.
Keithfan. Firsts on Daves/Dicks. Three From The Vault doesn't count.
Watching hockey. Vegas Golden Knights are pretty good.
75% capacity next home game hopefully. Covid made the news move fast.
Game On!

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Submitted by kyleharmon on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 20:56

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I had to call customer service for Dave's 3 when I patiently waited for a month. After calling it showed up shortly

This puppy sold out in less than 24 hours and with 25k that is pretty impressive. Clearly there is a lot of demand for these releases. I still have the dreaded label created, no tracking..... Hoping for the best.
Zero information in the Seaside Chat regarding this year's box set, other than something to the effect 2021 is going to be a great year. May 1, today, so let's get it going.

How about an August 1, MUATM?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 22:40

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....is nonstop fire.
The Greatest Story Ever Told.
It all rolls into one.
Daves 5 has some competition.
Happy Camper here.
And I'm only at He's Gone

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 23:12

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I am still digesting this cornucopia of music. The bonus disk is just Devine.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/01/2021 - 23:34

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....Yumm. Probly cost 10 bucks to go.
Editttt. At the twelve minute mark EXACTLY during PITB, they take a dark, sinister turn. That's what I hear anyway.
I search high and lo for this facet.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 02:51

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For anybody mindful of anniversaries, who hasn't got Dave's 38 yet, listening to 5/2/70 is a good way of whiling away a few hours. Just as 4/28/71 may have been the best show of the 5 man version of the band ( that's 5 plus one, of course), 5/2/70 may have been the best show played by the 6 man 1970 version. Note "may"-diplomacy at work.

Bill the Kid-like that May 1973 box suggestion.

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Submitted by SWR on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 06:45

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Got the shipping notice on 4/26 and it only updated a few times before getting here on 5/1, no big deal but it looks like that's the trend going forward because DP 37 did the same.
Great energy through this whole show! 1st disc highlights for me were Sugaree, Tennessee Jed, and Row Jimmy. Jerry has got a growl going at the end of Row Jimmy, get down row! 2nd and 3rd discs have too many highlights to mention, I think this may be my favorite Dave's Picks so far and I still haven't got to the bonus disc yet!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 08:51

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Daverock, I just happened to get DiP 8 5/2/70 and DiP 23 9/17/72, along with the much lesser known Cowboy sophomore album 5'll Getcha Ten from Real Gone yesterday, and listened to 5/2/70 from Cold Jordan on to the end. Man, what a show! It's been a while since I listened, and I can't recall listening that intently before. Next to last version of Viola Lee, and they ratchet it up to 11, and end appropriately with Bid You Goodnight. Will probably be putting on that Baltimore '72 show for the 39 min Other One> Sing Me Back Home before any movement occurs on my Dave's 38, but looking forward to its arrival...

The Cowboy album is pretty good. Mainly got it because Duane Allman appears on two tracks, one of which, Please Be With Me, is one of the last things he recorded, and some sweet, sweet dobro is on there. Eric Clapton even put a cover of it on his 461 Ocean Boulevard album.

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