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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • proudfoot
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    If anyone needs something to do...

    you could compile Bobbyz lyrical flubs in Truckin' over the years

    That million dollar idea came to me this morning during 12 4 73

  • daverock
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    Shame there's no Dead on this upcoming RSD. Listening to more vinyl these days, I would say my most recent Mount Rushmore show is 9/21/72 - Dicks 36 - together with the section from 9/3/72 at Boulder - a hell of a filler.

    Long term Mount Rushmores are 5/2/70 and 3/1/69 - they are the ones I would lend to people to give them some idea of why I like the band so much. Although last year I was blown away all over again by "American Beauty", and lent that to my friend. She seemed a bit nonplussed - told me it reminded her of The Eagles. Sacre bleu.

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    I and others had noticed that the Jerry Garcia Band Record Store Day release had disappeared from the RSD July 17 drops list. Now I know why. The following is from the latest Jerry Garcia Newsletter:

    We're reaching out with a quick update on the "Jerry Garcia Band (30th Anniversary Edition)" LP set intended for release during July 17th's Record Store Day drop.

    While reviewing the first completed sets received from our manufacturer, we found the pressing's fidelity was not consistent with the test pressings approved and a clear deviation from the standards we've set for our releases. A full repressing is our only acceptable path forward. While we're disappointed we won't have this collection to share on Record Store Day, we're committed to taking the time to ensure the music sounds just right (as Bobby would say).

    At present we do not have a timeline for release, but we intend to complete the repressing as soon as possible with the intention of sharing it before the end of the year. We'll provide any meaningful updates as we receive them. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    Gratefully,
    -The Jerry Garcia Family & Round Records

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    Different Strokes for different folks . . .

    Funny. I just finished my first complete run-through of the two Spring '90 boxes, and my notes say that I did not appreciate my first listen to 3/22 all that much. I mentioned that the Scarlet-->Fire was an easy highlight, but even there wasn't floored by it. I'll try it again . . .

    Now March 14th, 15th, and 24th--now THERE'S some Spring 1990! :)

    Dennis--thanks, man! There are some cool cats on this board, and you're definitely one of them.

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    Re: Scarlet>Fire from 3/22/90

    I have always loved this version as well. One of my favorites.. midi you say? Well, it works here. A kaleidoscope of sounds that seemingly work quite well together.

    Taking newcomers to shows in the 80's was often a perilous journey.. you never knew what you were going to get and it was frustrating going down that path when the show began to jump off the tracks. Then the trouble with the law, the coma, etc. Even during the rebirth there were some not so stellar moments.. then 89 came and it I remember noticing this consistent and strong comeback. It took some of the stress out of breaking in a newbie.

    So 3/22/90 you say, I say Yessss..... that Scarlet>Fire smolders.

    Everest of GD shows? I wouldn't go out on a limb on that one.. but I will take the win and concur it was a great show.

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    That's a tough one, because each person's would be different, but just as correct as everyone else. I would pick 3/1/69, 5/2/70, 8/13/75, then it would be a toss up between 7/13/76, 12/28/79, and 9/11/81, shows that I attended, and really enjoyed.

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    Doc, June 1974, what a time to get on the bus! An Eyes encore and the Wall of Sound to boot, sweet. Did you think they were done after Winterland?

    Dave's 39 will be released on July 30, with Dave's seaside chat on the same day. No more pre-orders. They will probably send out the Email announcement the week of 19.

    Love 3/22/90, great show. Didn't Mickey Hart have his hand in Fire on the Mountain?

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    re: 3/22/90

    I readily, wholeheartedly concur.
    Spring 1990 is special.

    Sixtus

  • That Mike
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    3/22/90 per Glide Magazine, by Dave Goodwich

    A couple of excerpts from Glide Magazine (3/22/20 Issue) on the 3/22/90 show:

    “This concert, particularly the jaw-dropping second set, is undeniably among the band’s best ever and absolutely deserves to be in the running for the Dead’s “Mt. Rushmore” of shows, alongside other legendary performances such as 2/13/70, 5/2/70, 5/8/77 & 10/9/89.”

    “ The second set, however, is what bestows the status of “legendary” to this evening’s performance. The “Scarlet Begonias->Fire on the Mountain” pairing that opens the set is the definitive late-era version – it was officially released on the career-spanning 1999 So Many Roads boxset – and arguably only topped by perhaps a few choice late-70’s takes. ”

    “ “Scarlet Begonias->Fire on the Mountain”: While the beloved Caribbean-flavored “Scarlet Begonias” made its concert debut in 1974, it took until the 1977 debut of another Garcia/Hunter gem, “Fire on the Mountain” to find its lifelong musical companion. This pairing was ultimately performed just over 240 times through 1995, most often as a welcome second set opener. Tonight’s legendary version is note-perfect throughout, starting with a nonpareil “Scarlet” that features every single band member absolutely locked-in from the opening notes. Garcia’s vocals are strong & compelling from start to finish, as is his masterful guitar solo which builds to a glorious peak before thundering back into the final verse. A purposeful and driving jam follows, with Garcia sounding like a horn-blowing jazz-master thanks to his commanding use of his MIDI effects rig, leading into the familiar two-chord progression of “Fire.” This version continues the trend that “Scarlet” set with impeccable playing from everyone, though Garcia is simply on another level as he lays waste to each solo with some of the most searing guitar riffs he’s ever produced.”

    Finally: “ March 22, 1990 – Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario:

    There are bad Grateful Dead shows. There are good Grateful Dead shows. There are certainly plenty of great Grateful Dead shows. And then there are shows like 3/22/90. ”

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    Just to kill time while we await DaP 39 announcement (it's gonna be tomorrow,,, trust me)

    I was asked about quacking duck Scar-Fire, led me to my May 77 folder. Poked at Quack Duck, skipped over to Barton Hall (5/8/77),,,, "greatest show ever",,,, so they say.

    Hit up Scar-Fire, nice,,,,,,, but, still think the greatest one is 3/22/90 Ontario, off the So Many Roads collection. That cut ALWAYS moves me to tears during the transition. What a sound.

    DaP 39 tomorrow?

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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How about a Dylan and The Dead box set to celebrate Dylan’s 80th birthday. Obviously, it isn’t going to happen but it would be interesting to hear.

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Wow. Just wow. #4648 is sounding great here in Baltimore!

Love the artwork on this one too! Very cool the way they went with the Weather Reporter for the first ever WRS. It is stuff like that that keeps me coming back!

"Bertha" is a little bumpy, but thanks to the kind folks here, I knew to simply wait it out for a bit and that things would correct themselves - and boy, did they ever! Very happy with this release - it's got me shouting like Bobby at the end of this "Looks Like Rain!"

On to set 2!

Peace

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I love this
A show I am totally unfamiliar with
Oh for a soundboard of this quality of 9 11 73

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Thats cool
I think vguy found somma dat yesterday

I saw a screening of that flick years ago

I dont recall the song tho

Y'all be cool, Nappy

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This might be their favorite El Paso of all time? lol I like the '77-'78 versions myself :-)

I gotta dig deeper into this one.

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Otis my man! I couldn't figure out what the point of the artwork was. Then I actually commented yesterday about how the WRS didn't have its normal ending (as if they had not yet developed it) and I still didn't make the connnection. I also just saw the animated DaP 38 cover art from the email advertisement. Very cool. I guess I thought it was a windy night at Nassau.....

I am really loving what I've heard so far. I'm up to Truckin' now. A lot of what I'm enjoying is the clarity of Jerry and Bobby playing together. In the past when Bobby's been turned up loud, Jerry's been too low; but here they each pretty much own a speaker. It's a very unique mix. The separation between instruments reminds me of DaP 18 at the Orpheum, though it was more Jerry and Keith on that one.

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Among the biggest tentpole shows of tentpole shows imho.

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5 2 70 rox

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Gotta try again on 9 8 73
Too much trippus interuptus on the first go round

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Sums up 5/2/70. Often overlooked-this includes my favourite version of "Good Lovin'". As well as "Other One" and "Dancing in the Street." And maybe "Viola Lee". But the whole show is amazing.

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Wow, Gerd, that is seriously bad news. It was also cancelled last year. Two years no Oktoberfest! The whole world has turned to shit. 💩 Given the choice, I would much rather have beer than corona bat flu 🦇 but we are denied that choice.

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No not that 420!

Almost can't believe my ears, but at the 4:20 mark Not Fade Away part 1, I hear Keith playing some Hammond organ. The last time I recall anything with him playing Hammond was October of '71, and maybe his first couple shows. You can hear some on Dave's Picks 3.

Yes Daverock, The Other One 5/2/70. I bought Dick's Picks 8 based on these comments from listeners on the Heady Version site:

"Garcia's guitar tone here is pure liquid magic"

"High voltage tight lightning jam without a meltdown"

"Every time you think Jerry's peaked, he pulls out another blistering run"

"12:20 begins a sequence where Garcia and his guitar reaches uncharted territory. Did not know this level was even possible"

And my favorite:

"Garcia is in orbit - no other way to characterize it. Makes his case re the Nobel for Holy Fuck!"

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My ears had whiplash too, mouth agape and gobsmacked. I wish there had been more...and call me crazy but
I swear Truckin' is about to turn into Need a Miracle at about 7min. but then its only '73. Oh well, might as well listen to the whole show, again! Really enjoying this one!

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The ending of Let it Grow on this release is like delicious melting fudge. That is all.

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I think I can confidently say that this is my favorite Dave’s so far. Even though the sound quality isn’t as good as the last few Dave’s(especially the last one, very crisp), the playing is sublime. The mix is nice too, even if Keith gets buried sometimes. It’s almost weird to hear Bobby so loud, but it’s really nice especially during Row Jimmy and Ramble On Rose. Jerry’s playing is also very good, and Phil is nice and up front, at least to my ears. From what I’ve heard of the bonus disk so far, I’m really enjoying it. Overall, great release. Highlights for me are the WRS, Row Jimmy, Sugaree, Eyes>China Doll, and that entire 3rd disk is something very special.

Also, a May 73 box set would be wonderful; a perfect complement to this Dave’s. I would also like to a see a Fall 84 or Greek Theater 84 release sometime. Those Greek shows are gold!

As for the next Dave’s(or future Dave’s), I’m hoping for 9/15/85, 2/14/86(trust me, it’s really good), and 6/29/76.

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Like a board tape, unedited, oraganic and real. So many "live" albums as official releases have tons of overdubs. Not these, the Dick's and Dave's picks feature every note as played.

I would like to hear more crowd noise, but again just the natural audience banter not the piped in "KISS Alive" shit. Although I do love KISS.

The Grateful Dead are the most human sounding of any band I have ever heard. Sometimes loose, sometimes tight, sometimes sloppy, otherworldy, in and out of tune. It's what I love about them and it isn't a backhanded compliment.

I come to the well of the Dead for what I can't get anywhere else, and this release is absolutely primo in that regard.

Cheers everyone.

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With all the talk about 5/2/70 lately, I decided to take another listen to Dick's Picks #8. It really was a really great show! Over the weekend, I was also able to find and download an SBD version of the show that included the NRPS set in between the Dead's acoustic and electric sets! Gonna give that version of the show a listen to soon!

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No other information is available.....

Why can't this series be released in digital format? Every other release, other than Dave's is sold that way...

Only thinking, maybe because they can skim, cds off the top and sell them on Ebay. I truly wonder how many copies of this LIMITED EDITION and Numbered series. are out there...There a many copies abound with no numbers...wait I get it....the numbered series is limited, the unnumbered don't count.

Also, I see them on Ebay, being bid on, at twice the price or more. Yet, Dead.net, had not sold out, at that time.

To many hands in the cookie jar.

Keithfan-Caniol - yes, this version of The Other One is transcendental. Incredible that they could hit such peaks as this in a live performance, and then release "American Beauty" a few months later. AB is also magical, but in a way that couldn't be more different. I can't think of any other band that could produce such inspiring music in such contrasting genres in the same year. Great live AND in the studio during 1970.

I used to have a bootleg of this show with the NRPS set included back at the tail end of the 80s. Long gone now, unfortunately.

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Having problems finding decent artwork for Vol. 38 ... Need !!!

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With a deflating exhale, I will add today marks the 51st anniversary of "four dead in Ohio.." just a couple days after the famed Dicks Picks Vol. 8.

One of my all time favorite shows too. It's just spectacularly executed, they were on fire that day. ..and now it looks like I have to search high and low for the NRPS addition. Ah, found it.

Some of the all time classic shows to my ears occurred in 1970. Dicks Picks 4 and 8, the Sept and Nov runs at the Capitol and others. Plus.. the guy that was supposed to hit the record button was MIA most of the year. Can you imagine what would have been if the hit the record button buy hadn't sprained his hit the record button finger? What might have been... set the wayback machine for 2/1/1970, New Orleans.

and Pelazami - Jeff Smith does an incredible job creating digital images of the artwork. He lives in a cave up in the hills though.. so like me, it takes him a couple extra days to get his copy. I am really looking forward to getting and listening to mine. It's getting an awful amount of positive hype and good reviews.

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I've been driving myself crazy since I received my copy yesterday trying to figure out what that shadowy crab claw / batwing looking thing lurking in the wheat is. Dave's only hint on Twitter was "it's very meaningful in the Dead world..." I'm gonna feel really stupid if it is something obvious, but my mind just can't connect the dots on this one. Help!

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZA7fXiSNI. I really enjoyed this show, Keystone Palo Alto was a pretty small place, I saw Garcia play there a lot of times . I remember one night when Hunter was on the bill with Garcia he said, "I remember when this place was a Purity Store, we used to shopliftit in here". I saw Muddy Waters play at Keystone Palo Alto one time, fun times!

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I do love this release and the bonus disc is really sweet. But Im wondering if all the hype from Dave in the seaside chat about how well Bobby was playing in the show was to prepare us for how low Jerry seems in the mix and how in the front Bobby is on the 9/8 show. The bonus disc from 9/7 seems better balanced but Im straining to hear Jerry at times in the main show and its a bummer cause what I can hear is smoking! All in all this is a solid release though and Im already on my second full listen!!!

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I was at the Kent state 1 year moratorium anniversary of the killing of 4 Ohio state students by the Ohio state national guard. It's hard to believe it's been 50 years. Seems like it went by in a flash.
It was a very somber day, there was a lot of people there, protesting the war and marking the anniversary of the killings. Lots of cops too. Some were angry, but most were sad. The war was still raging, the cops were still hating on everything hippie, the draft was still going on and young people were angry and afraid and anxious and fed up.
That was about the time I started to realize that they were never going to change. That I could not change them with all my yelling and protesting. It's like everything that I had been taught did not apply to them. The "establishment" was too established to bring down, or even change just a little. They made the rules but didn't have to live by them. A somber day indeed.
There was going to be a large gathering on the 50th anniversary of the killings, but Covid cancelled those plans. Joe Walsh (a student at the time of the murders) and David Crosby were scheduled to play a concert with Joe reforming the old Barnstorm line up for the show. That would have been great.
I do not know what that shadowy figure in the wheat is, anybody?
This is an excellent release, that 3rd disc is awesome.

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Thank you! Smacking myself on the forehead wondering how I missed that. :-)

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I saw an article recently about the woman/girl in the iconic photo. That photo really f'd up her life. She was identified, and people spewed hate on her. Sickening.

She was apparently a 14 year old runaway when the pic was taken.

America, you wonderful, digusting, admirable, foul entity...

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I thought it was the top of a cats head. After the crow, the china cat. Ears don't look right for a wolf?.?

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I'm absolutely loving DaP 38. It doesn't get much better than '73 Dead. Mine arrived yesterday, just days after the official release, and glory glory hallejuah, all the discs actually play! I've only had time to listen to discs 1 and 2, and they're as great as others have said. This is right in my sweet spot, a 10 out of 10, AFAIC.

I'll probably write more about the music at some point, but for now I just want to mention a couple things about the audio: one is that this is indeed one of the few shows where Bob's guitar is as loud or louder than Jerry's in the mix. In some ways, this is great, and I didn't really mind having the chance to really savor Bob's amazing, ridiculously under-rated guitar playing. BUT for anyone who's interested, I did notice that you can adjust this to a significant degree but adjusting the balance between your stereo channels. Bob's in the left channel, Jer in the right, and for me, putting the "balance" nob at about 1 o'clock brought Jerry up a little and, I thought, improved the stereo image.

Also, as some others have noticed, there is some weirdness is the extreme low frequencies at a couple points, and I could see how it could sound like a defect on some systems, but to my ears it sounded like something Phil was doing intentionally: not a classic Phil Bomb, but more like maybe his amp was distorting just a little at peak passages and he decided to just go with it and try to make something out of it? You now Phil. Remember that scene in the Grateful Dead Movie, where his bass starts making weird sounds as the guy holds the move camera near it, and instead of getting annoyed or freaking out, Phil tells him to keep doing it, and he immediately starts twisting nobs on his amp just to see what weird noises he can get? Love that guy.

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actually i think jerry is in left channel to simulate his location from the perspective of an audience member in 73, bob is certainly loud but i think there is plenty of jerry, i really like the mixes with guitars on either side, sometimes the recordists (or mixers for multitrack) put bob and keith on either side with jerry in the middle which also makes sense in a way, bob's sound in here comes sunshine is extra...

i will echo earlier comments about the rarity of keith on a hammond sounding organ, did they just have one at nassau and decided to give it a try? also i def thought it sounded like miracle at one point in the truckin jam, not too surprising for a driving E blues jam

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Interesting comments on Daves 38, which I haven't heard yet. Bob's apparent presence seems to echo a discussion from last week concerning lead and rhythm guitar. Maybe its a bit misleading to regard a guitarist who favours a chordal approach as rhythm and someone who plays single lines as lead. I vaguely remember reading an interview with Jerry somewhere, in which he said that many times he followed rather than led, when he was playing. But because he was (usually) louder, it seemed as though he was the one doing the leading. To be sure, he often would have been-but not always.

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Define "wee bit of time" for me. The release date is now 3 days gone. My shipment hit my local Post Office a week ago. They have flat out told me they have no clue where the package is. I got email yesterday from Dead.net customer service asking for my info so they could look into it. Hopeful there at least.
Is this mail innovations thing just about the $? This must be the 4th or 5th DP I waited for long after the tracking showed a transfer to the PO. A couple made it. I'm pretty sure I had to have help from Mary on this forum to get a couple of them replaced. I'll pay extra money for UPS or Fed Ex. PLEASE anyone who has influence suggest this option. Put a big handling fee on there so you can do more free shipping to people who need it.
When the announcement of DP 38 on sale hit my inbox I ordered a copy just in case I never see my replacement order. I'd be out the bonus disc but surely could find that music somewhere.
If dead.net makes this right so I get the subscription order I will give the other copy to someone on here who missed out. I'll even pay shipping because I'll be so happy to get my proper copy.

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Hey now my friends and freaks! DaP #38 was waiting for me in my my mailbox when I got home last night. And it's number 1780. I don't think I've ever gotten a lower number since I've been subscribing to the series. There is truly no rhyme or reason to the way the releases are allocated and I don't really care about that. It's all about the music and the memories!

Anyway, I'm downloading it now so I can listen to it today at work. What I've heard in the Listening Party and on Dave's SiriusXM special is awesome. This might have been a show I attended. The 60s and 70s are such a blur but I got to a ton of shows in the NYC/Philly area back in the day. Nassau was one of the venues I saw lots of shows at.

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@HUSKERWING
Everything coming through the USPS is unreliable these days. Without getting into politics, I will say that the current Postmaster General hasn't helped the timeliness of our mail service. I accidentally ordered two subscriptions this year and my second hasn't shown up yet.

Hang in there!

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wee bit of time would be until this Friday

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Ok thanks! I can wait.

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The shipping issues associated with this site has nothing to do with UPS or the Post Office, if it never leaves the warehouse.

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I see what their game is. One indispensable release a year (Dave's 34...Dave's 38) to keep suckers like me to re-up. And that's fine.

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