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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #1311
    Oroborous
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    Howsa bouta a little 83 energy for a Fri yea?

    6/16/90: good call DV! Haven’t heard this since the Shakedown Stream, man those were fun.
    Needed some kind of ritual at the time, even TOO watched and she ain’t really into the dead.

    Always dug a good Good Times Roll opener, usually a good sign. Fun Truckin if not mind blowing, solid Touch O,
    Nice FOTD, hot Cassidy, fun but perhaps trepid Big Boss, but fun non the less, and another slightly unusual and fun OMSN to close a fun set.
    Though the first might not of been thoroughly consistent, the second set gets going nice, good versions of most songs, and a nice China Doll in spite of Jerry struggling a bit. Rousing Mags and and always welcome sweet Baby Blue encore. But!…But, to me that whole sequence from Estimated, terrapin and all that awesome psychedelic goodness that follows is what makes this show stand out for moi.
    For a while I was thinking “this shows ok but..?, “ by half way through the second those thoughts were gone baby gone. It’s a shame JG didn’t fully nail the China as that would of really took it up a notch overall.
    Good show, even better in person, first trip to the promised land, hot 20 year old GF along, tripping the light fandango in the cool California night sea breeze. What a trip that was, sighhhh.
    Dems we’re da daze…

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    That image that shows either two faces or a chalice depending on how you look at it.
    If I try to hear those anomalies I can, but if I just crank up some tunes and don’t try, then I only notice when it gets bad, if that makes sense. Another variable: plangent etc. Those old Road Trips and Dicks didn’t have the benefit of Plangent.
    Capitol 71 bonus disc did, AND, their multitrack so if say Bobby had some weird noise issues on his line, it couid isolated and messed with. Wood really love to hear some of that deconstruction tech they used on the Beatles…

    St Louie: going in I thought I was going to dig the 73 the most, and that one disc probably is my pick of the litter. I thought I’d dig the 71, but comparatively not as much as the other 2 years. But at first the 71s really stood out to me.
    I love when that happens!
    I think I recall thinking the music was great overall, but that there were some unfortunate anomalies.
    I guess to get full shows that’s going to happen sometimes especially in years that have been mined more extensively.
    To me when it comes down to it and your properly prepped and ready, once you settle in it’s all about the music!
    Like the band entraining, after a while it all becomes one…

    DV with a call for 6/16/90. That sounds good, just not sure if I should wait and watch it, or just fire it up now?
    Thinking I might dabble this WE with the Louie…still have some primal Doc to catch up on too.
    Finally getting a few extra days off, then one last push at this job swapping out net and installing new Cisco stacking tech. Owners are supposed to be gone so maaaayyybbbeee I can catch some tunes. I really need to get a portable personal rig but I’m such a snob that would get pricey and more importantly I don’t have time, err, if /when I do have time I’d rather just sit and listen to tunes!
    So 6/16/90, think that was my 86th show, weird/cool vibe, you had to be there, or maybe it was the roses ; )

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    For me there's a certain point where both the right brain and left brain agree that it's kick ass Grateful Dead I am listening to and recording anomalies fade into a blissfull background.

    Let it be known i am a recording snob.. so it hurts by my left and right to commit to great performance vs. great recording.

    I still think so highly of this run. Warts and all, it's classic Fall '72 GD.

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    Appreciate the insight Jim, BC and OB.
    I have found sometimes, for whatever reason I hear differently after the first go around with the Dave's and the Box sets. Most of the time, I think damn this sounds so good, once in a while I think, this sounds a little off. Sometimes I panic and think my speakers must be blown. I need to go out and replace them.
    Of course, yes, we are lucky they recorded almost all these shows. We all know there are all kinds of different results of the shows and recordings for various reasons. I would think there is no way Norman finished mastering 10/18/72 and texted Dave and said you can't believe how good this sounds. I could be wrong.
    I totally hear what you are saying on the 71 shows OB. Some of them definitely have a different sound to them, Dick's 35, RT#1.3. Great, but different. And then I compare them to the 71 Port Chester shows which sound incredible and are some of my alll time favorites.

    Jim, sorry to hear about the issues you are having, definitely hard stuff to deal with.

    Let me offer up Charlie Miller's 100th show for tomorrow, 6/16/90. There is a newer version from the man himself from 2019 and the version from VFTV III.

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    So I saved.. squirrelled, pinched pennies for 45 years and finally dropped the dime on my dream system I have been planning for all these years. I went completely with Fender Amps on the recommendation of some guy named Hal and now I read this.

    What are these McIntosh items of which you speak?

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    OB- Kenny Ban??. The Fatigues episode.

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    Man I wish I had time….for anything lol
    I’ll try to check some more of these audio anomalies out this WE.
    Hit me with examples if ya got em.

    Ive noticed this phenomenon with other recordings, think mostly 71-72s.
    Definitely could be tape degradation and/or perhaps a little oversaturated originally, but I think there’s amp distortion going on too? They were still mostly using dirty fender power at this stage. So like any real Rock and roller by the end of the night the amps are on 11 etc and with those old tube power sections/power supplies their easy to overdrive.
    By 73 they had pretty much fully switched to big McIntosh power amps, though they were still using the Fenders for pre amps. Like your pre amp at home though, you wouldn’t be pushing the pre amp that much (let the power amp do the heavy lifting). Think overworking a small car engine versus barely stepping on a big V8.
    Could be compromised cabling somewhere. Could be dirty and/or insufficient venue power too? That’s the problem with E lic tri city though, could be a number of things. Probably a bit of all the above…

    Yep BC, glad your digging the nice February weather. These days where it’s sunny and up in the 30s, “it’s gold Jerry, gold I tell ya! I should try to check out the ole St Louie, Louie, box, another I’ve barely been introduced too.
    Hoping 🤞I might be getting a little quality time off soon.

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    The '72 shows from the not quite the Fox Box have been in and out of the disc drive several times the past few weeks. All great for sure. I know first run through that it was the 10/19 jam that really kinda floored me. Yesterday listening to 10/18 again with the sound quality question in mind. One thing that struck me was that Keith sounded muddy and almost sort of kind of out of tune. I pay a lot of attention to Keith's playing, especially the "earlier days." Something was off and my guess was it was a SBD thing, how he was miked, and not Keith. (Edit - or as Jim suggests maybe some tape degradation.) Bobby's guitar also sounded a bit fuzzed in a recording artifact kind of way, though not unpleasant in any sense. But none of that stopped me from a thoroughly enjoyable listen. There was a point during the Dark Star where I was suddenly in a zone of complete wonder - a place that reminded me of my first deep "now I understand" listen to the Rotterdam Dark Star (on my weird balance SBD many many years before the box.) A really very cool place to be inside the music. So yes, that Disc 2 is some serious magic. One thing struck me as funny is Donna's yell in the Playing Reprise. I have no issues with her singing in those early days, truly dig it. And that Donna Playing ROAR was maybe the most primal vocalization I've ever heard from her. She was feeling the "Holy Spirit" big time!! Loved her quick soft little "Thank you Thank you Thank you" after it was all said and done. Another truly epic jam sequence.
    Listening to 10/19 Disc 1 right now this morning. Keith is hard right - i think he was slightly left of center 10/18. A little lower in the mix, tone sounds better to my ear. I'd have to do a hard A / B to be sure that my thoughts are correct on that. Now on Sugaree and Keith's piano and Jerry's vocals have now moved to center of the sound stage. I think Keith sounds a little better than 10/18 but still a tiny bit muffled? Maybe its my brain, who knows.
    Thanks DV for suggesting 10/18 awhile ago. I feel like these are my first really good deep listens to the '72 shows from that box. Like you said, great stuff. I ran through '73 a week or so ago and need to revisit that. At the time I remember thinking that the '72 resonated with me more and given that '73 is generally a big fat sweet spot for me I know that my head may have been ever so slightly out of alignment.
    To echo KeithFan over on the 45 thread - I'm really really digging Dave's 45. Spectacular sound. Great playing. Boy are we some lucky Deadheads. It was 10/1 Set II that really got me first run through. The Black Peter is so freaking gorgeous. And then the "random current" of that CB or whatever for a couple seconds and its like oh my freaking goodness. I can only laugh. Really, Universe? I first heard 1/31 NOLA last year while exploring a little around the 2/6/70 Fox (personal favorite.) I remember being very pleasantly surprised to find that they played that acoustic set. I think every single acoustic set they have in the vault needs to be released. Gave 1/31 acoustic another run through Sunday morning. Woke up from a short nap late Sunday afternoon and had Sawmill chorus running through my head again and again. I"m like "What is this song? where do I know it from? Oh Yeah, Bobby sings it on 1/31!" Talk about a poor boy, talk about a poor boy, let me have a dollar bill.
    Nice Poster Oro!! Your first show! Glad that the Almanac shone a light on your post - hadn't seen it. Another beautiful day here in paradise. Always loved this time of year in the high desierto. Onward!!

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    I have to revisit this.. but I think I recalled thinking something similar and attributed it to someone spinning the master reel a couple times too many before they locked it away. All three nights are good, but 10/18 is probably my favorite of the bunch, it would not surprise me a bit that someone on the inside thought so too. That and the BCT shows a month and a half earlier are both special runs from a special year.

    For kicks and giggles.. check out the Morning Dew from 5/26/72 at the Lyceum from the E72 box and then listen to it from the version on Europe 72. There is static on the box set version where the original sounds crystal clear. The masters degrade especially when people with two left thumbs (like me) handle them. A lot of the early shows suffer from this, listen to 4/18/70 (the Mountain Girl returned reels) sound and frankly a lot of 69.

    Well, at least someone remembered to hit record. Didn't Sony or one of the other music houses have their entire archive burn down a decade or so ago? Image the horror if GD masters were lost in a fire.🔥🔥🔥😭

    Been gone a bit lately.. spending quality time in the hospital with my aging parents. They seem to be on the mend though, which puts me back home and in good spirits. I hope to participate more as I get back on line with work and fun.

    Thanks for keeping the train a rollin' guys.

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    Thanks for looking into it OB.
    I have noticed it on all three CDs from 10/18. I don't hear it on 10/17 or 10/19, which I think are both smoking!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by rockthing on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 00:28

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RE: Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

I usually associate that job with Phil.
<squeaky voice> Saint Stephen. Saint Stephen. Play Saint Stephen, man<end voice>.
He can come off pretty harsh sometimes, but mostly with the house lighting crew, maybe.

Oroborous: Nice summary. I've been having a hard time just getting through the 28th and 29th, but that April '71 project sounds well worth the effort. Hearing the interplay of the guitars so clearly on the 28th board really heightens the excitement of Hard to Handle. So much good stuff happening when Tom Contstanten joins at the end. I finally know how to pronounce his name!

Feels like we've been here before, huh?

51st Anniversary of one the all time greats today.

Had a good time listening to this last year, we'll see how it sounds this year ;)

The DaP V38 bonus disc has been in heavy rotation over here.
Hot stuff!
And Strider's pal Jay wrote some great liner notes, so cool to hear stories of the '73 Dead scene.

Hope all yours find you and raise a toast to the epic Evening with the Grateful Dead that happened 51 years ago today!

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NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo

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Submitted by Boo469 on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 15:08

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NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
The vinyl version updated with new remastering, plantgent process, and includes Cold Rain and Snow

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 05/02/2021 - 15:52

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We did listen to this a year ago. Another rites of spring concert. Good choice, (bears) choice. 5/2/70 is another of the early bootleg cassette favorites.

and

Led Zeppelin IV

LZ: when I am in the mood for LZ, they sound so.fn.good.

9/8/73: I gotta listen again. I thought the Birdsong was from 9/8. Derp.

9/7: still need to hear the PITB.

Okay Proudfoot, I will get this one rolling first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the pick.

My #38 is stuck with the dreaded label created, no shipping for four days. Anyone else experiencing this?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/04/2021 - 02:48

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I couldn't get to it yesterday either.. but a bit of insomnia found me awake way before dawn checking it out. Cole Field House, University of Maryland.. this used to be their basketball stadium but was repurposed in 2015 to a multi-purpose sports and academic complex. This is an interesting show in search of a better recording. I've seen a basketball game or two there when I was a kid, the place did a good job of resonating the cheers and screams of the rowdy and sometimes rabid Terrapins (fear the turtle!). It was a loud venue, probably not the best acoustics.. but... might as well just play it loud.

A strong first set with a nice 17 minute bird song and a pretty smoking deal. The second set had an interesting almost ten minute jam out of Saint of Circumstance. A decent little show but perhaps in search of a better recording.

I have a soundboard of this one, or something labeled as a soundboard but it looks like the archive does not have any boards uploaded.. no bother, a couple of the audience tapes out there sound better anyway. The board has lots of ambient crowd noise pumped in and it and it sounds muddy and flat overall, it's not worth seeking.

Anyway.. it's the only time they played at the University of Maryland (at least that I know of), home of the Terrapins. I bet they would have blown the lid off the tin can of a stadium if they played Terrapin Station. ..what might have been...

Thanks for the memories proudfoot.. I haven't listened to this one in years. I like 1981.

(sigh).. 51 years ago today, four dead in Ohio..

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Submitted by jefito on Tue, 05/04/2021 - 09:31

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Handy tip for listening to DaP #38's bonus disc: check to make sure that the Dave's Picks sticker isn't electrostatically stuck to the recorded surface *before* inserting it into the CD player. That is all.

Has it come to an end, or is it just intermission?

I’ll throw out an anniversary listen:
5-4-77

I’m spinning an old CD-R of the show, although I’m pretty sure that I have an upgrade on a HD.

It’s got a Disco Dancing and a S/F…

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/04/2021 - 17:59

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..people are just captured by spring weather and getting their yards/houses/hobo boxes ready for spring (I think).

5/4 it is.. funny, I was going to suggest 5/13 or one of the shows from the 77 box v1. It's been a long time since I listened to one of those. 5.4 scratches that itch. I did fit in the 81 show this morning a half day late. A nice little show once you adjust to the recording.

I did a little solo boating and biked my way back to my truck after the run... Gives me a good 2 1/2 hours of uninterrupted show time. I never know what is loaded on my water devices.. I just grab one and go. The one today started with some 75, some 1970 (4/15??) followed by the second set from 5/26/72. 5/26 was perfect for the outing.
I never listen to that show anymore primarily because several cuts are on E72.. but it is a sleeping dragon that wakes up and catches fire sometime in the middle of the jam out of Truckin'. What a sequence after that. It doesn't get much play but when it does and I have time to listen.. it's amazing.

I've been following proudfoot lately, he seems to be inspired.. As soon as someone posts bail for GOGD.. he will back and all will be good with the world..

Speaking of Hobo Boxes... with 38 out of the way (well, for those that have theirs).. the next seaside caffeine overdose video should be of the box set reveal. Since the last box was pulled from returned Betty Boards.. my guess is another batch of multi-tracks not sure what year.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/04/2021 - 20:17

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I enjoyed this show. Decent sounding Wise audience recording. That Bird Song is long and interesting. Give me a Lost Sailor-SOC, Truckin, Black Peter and I am really excited. More or just some 81 would be welcome from Dave.

Pick of the day is not over, some of us have still been loving it. I think the arrival of Dave's #38 is definitely taking up some of the time.

5/4/77 you say Conekid? Sounds good, will have to give it a go tomorrow.

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Submitted by rockthing on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 01:30

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It ain't over. Just gotta poke around.

I agree. The weather's nice and the time is right for dancin' in the streets. Also I, for one, continue to be in a constant state of catch-up with work since April, and cannot afford to allow myself a trip down the rabbit hole every single day. In fact, even as I type this opus, I should at least be changing strings on my guitar. My listening habits generally tend toward listening to one show for several days while taking it all in... and also not always being able to get all the way through a show in one sitting a lot of times. I'm still finding things like, that Stranger from 4/20/84 to be deceptively interesting, and that was from weeks ago! I mean, I finally got 'round to 4/13 yesterday. I'm hopelessly out of sync.

DLing 5/4/77 as I type. It's the Moore source. A quick check of Deal made me think this was gonna sound nice.

5/4/79 is on deck. Seems like a toss up between Joani Walker ECM-250 and the Glassberg NAK 700s. They both have their merits and deficiencies, and sound completely different, but it's hard to say one is clearly better. I usually don't go for NAK 700 pulls, except for when I do. A/B-ing Mama Tried through Mexicali, I think the edge is going to the Walker source because the kick drums are far better defined... but the catch is that they're almost too much so....tough call... is Bobby playing Lovelight behind Jerry's solo in Mama Tried? Comments on the Archive are saying this was the first show at the Hampton Coliseum. Yeah, the Walker source has much less echo from the hall. It's as close as you're gonna get to a board for this one, I think. Oh, man, Brent sounding sweet on the Candyman harmonies already. Gonna be tough to shut this down until later. Suddenly "on deck" has come up to bat out of order! :P

5/4/72... man, I wish the Europe '72 Complete CD wasn't going for, like, four hundred bucks. The whole box is over a grand. ::shakes head:: Ended up missing the propeller press of Skull and Roses too. Pretty bummed about that, but that's how it goes. Approaching infinite consuming opportunities yet strictly finite resources to do so. I totally get how and why short run limited edition releases are the way to go, though, so can't complain (but sometimes I still do).

Did someone say Led Zeppelin? Don't get me started. IV has the most unusual sonic palette for an album that has sold a gazillion copies. Diggin' on their April 69 stuff at The Fillmore some over the past few weeks. They had a very nasty relationship with Bill Graham, so I normally consider Zeppelin as verboten in Dead circles. They were responsible for really hooking me on music, and introducing me to improvisation, though, so I can't abandon them. Getting into the Dead was in a way an evolution of from Zeppelin for me.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 08:57

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I think that was the one I was listening to also.. not bad.

New Jerry Band released announced today. '91 MSG.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 10:35

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after doing the whole April 71 run etc,....well, just needed to free range freak freely for a while;
a few shows from the PNW box, a couple run through of 5/2/70, dis and dat etc.
just got 38 so going to blow my day trying to get down properly and be one with the force....

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Submitted by rockthing on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 13:33

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5/4/77 Half Step is really hot.

Some great complimentary interaction between Jerry and Keith. Finally got this rolling as I lay me down last night, and didn't make it very far before exhaustion led me into the arms of Morpheus. A bump of the high frequencies might really bring this Jerry Moore pull to life. Everything's there, but just slightly muffled. Stealth recording? Woke up early, so quietly skipped ahead to Brown Eyed Women, and now the funked out, but still mellow 70s, Dancin' in the Street is not really getting me in the mood to double down on some work that's getting away from me, but that's where I'm at.

Estimated to start the second set? Don't mind if I do. I gather there was a period in the 80s when they played this to death, but I wasn't around then, so it remains a favorite for me. Bobby doesn't completely lose it in these late 70s performances, either.

Peeking further ahead at the setlist, wow, they are really playing ALL the epic tunes. Playin' to end the show? WTH?! Looking forward to Comes a Time. That's one of my favorite songs.

Demon Rum! Missed the Harpur College anniversary. That show is like soul food for me. Can't count how many times that Maxell unspooled at home or in the car. In more of an exploratory mode, atm, so stickin' to these 5/4 shows this morning. 5/4/79 gig is great, btw. Passenger with Brent! As the show goes on, the B3 just seems to get louder and louder in the mix. Dan Healy must've been gettin' off on Brent's vibrant performance. I know I was.

TODO:
DL that 3/7/81 now, but I fear we'll be on to something else before I get round to it. Wise source. Check.
Since I didn't get the DaP 38 CD, a lo-fi rendering of 9/8/73 needs to be sorted.

Aren't you supposed to throw away the aluminum foil and eat the little piece of paper inside?

Have I been doing this all wrong.... some things should come with legible instructions.

Love the PITB>Comes a Time>PITB sequence. The whole second set is hot. OroB is taking a palate cleanse, it's up to us to pick some epics..

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 20:07

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Okay Jim, this one is for GOGD.
11/5/79. Also released as part of the Road Trips digital downloads.

Let me know.

Hang loose and feel free to mingle with others.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 07:18

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For me to pick up the pace. And I’m not talking about the hot sauce. November fifth Nineteen Seventy Nine.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 07:59

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Full Show Road Trips from 1979, I'm hip.

Although, I can't even look at 11/5 without wanting to hear 11/6.
22 minute Playing In The Band from 1979... That's gonna happen for sure.

That being said.
China > Rider > Cassidy, FOTD to open a show at The Spectrum, that's a big Hot Damn right there.

Good call.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 08:05

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....seems legit.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 08:19

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Yes, thanks for hooking me up with this one GOGD, I really dig this show.

If anybody needs a copy, you know where to find me.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 08:19

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Fuuuuugggggggddddddddeeeeeee (only I didn’t say fudge!)
Yeah, always get distracted by it’s 11/6 neighbor, probably my favorite 79 show (that I wasn’t at).
But because of that boisterous neighbor ole 11/5 doesn’t get the love it deserves, so it’s due....
I’ll have to sneak that in while I try to figure out 38? Not saying anything more on that one until furthur listening...

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 15:25

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CCS->IKYR to open the show.
Nice!

And then a Cassidy.
Nice indeed.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 19:26

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What an opener. ..they usually wait until they are warmed up for jello like that.

Still, to be honest.. I like it later in the set or into the second. It takes some of us a while to warm up too.. and they often play better later in the show (provided they don't overdue it themselves).

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 21:07

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Such a great example of how good 79 could be. 11/6/79, as you said GOGD, is also right up there.

79, 80 and 81, let's get more out!

Good to see the tractor Jim.

Who has a pick for tomorrow?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 05/07/2021 - 09:11

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Sweet! Believe that has a good Jack Straw....seemed like they always played an angry Jack there...
Was @ but haven’t heard much so I’m stoked to get reacquainted.
Don’t know what’s available, but I’d stay clear of Auds as that place sounded horrible (like most of those dome stadiums)...

11/5/79: haven’t heard that one for long time. I like it, but don’t think quite hangs with the big boys...
Definitely like 11/6 and 12/1 etc better but so what, still a fine 79!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 05/07/2021 - 09:14

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I’m playing old CD-R’s, although I probably have a newer copy as a torrent.
I can hear all the instruments. I suspect that this show could be polished up and released. Sure, some people would complain about an 80’s release, but this sounds better than some of the other early 80’s shows that have already been released.

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Submitted by jefito on Fri, 05/07/2021 - 19:55

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Speaking of May 7th, it was my first show, 1977 it was, in the old Boston Garden, the night before, ahem, *that* show. We'd been at the local Sears in Bangor, Maine, looking for tickets to Santana in Portland, which turned out to be not available yet. But then we noticed that there were tickets for the Dead in Boston. Woo-hoo, we'll take those instead! Came down the night before from Orono, with a gang of friends -- none of them had been to a Dead show either -- stayed overnight at Wells Beach and hit Boston the next day. With no idea what to expect, we were hanging out at the bathrooms/concessions, when a huge roar went up in the crowd, and my friend's girlfriend grabbed my hand and we raced back to our seats, to the opening bars of Bertha (and speaking of Bertha flubs, though we couldn't hear it there, on the tapes there's a pretty good technical glitch in the beginning of Bertha, leading into some audible onstage mirth). Good times. Last time I saw them was there as well, September of '93. A different world altogether...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 05/07/2021 - 20:35

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..what a night to pick for a first show.

Any interest in picking a show on the E72 tour for a pick of the day sometime this week? We could toss in a Spring 77 for good measure too.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 07:57

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Wow! Boston Garden 77 to start the ride. That must have been a wild show for your first. Did you make it to any other shows in 77?

Jim, sounds like a good idea, which shows do you want to do?

I think there are two Spring 77 shows that have not been released, those might be worth a listen.

E72-Yes!

Stay well out there.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 08:13

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Or Feel Real Guilty.

Phil's bass on opening of Scarlet on 5/8/77 is killer. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about this show?

I kid, because I care.

Nice Pick on 9/24/82 ConeKidd! Rockin' The Carrier Dome.
Really good show all the way through, but that Set 2 is Hot for sure!
Brent opener followed by PITB > Crazy Fingers > PITB > Throwing Stones and it don't stop there.
Good times, I enjoyed that.

jefito 5/7/77 first show! Anymore stories / memories from that night?

And yeah folks, I'm telling ya this 5/8/77 show is really underrated ;)

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 08:25

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I will be doing the anniversary listen tonight, possibly from vinyl, although that requires me to get up from the couch about every 20 minutes. Oh well, I’ll just make the most of it and walk over to the fridge each time and grab a beer. Well, maybe not every time, that would be a lot of beer. Not that I can’t handle that much beer, just that I probably can’t handle vinyl without scratching it after that much beer.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 09:50

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We are on track. Take a couple days and digest Get Shown the Light?

As for E72.. I was thinking Munich and Lille?

Two slightly off the beaten track shows. My favorite of late is Bickershaw. VGuy got me to take a deep dive a year or so ago and I found stuff in that show I had never noticed before. My favorite Lovelight of the tour and a great segue into GDTRFB, not to mention the other great stuff that came before. Concertgebouw is another off the radar gem. And then there are the monumental shows.. we can save a couple of those for next year.

Anyway.. spending some down time with classics is fun too.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 05/08/2021 - 17:06

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Works for me. I went back to 5/7/77 while driving today. Hard not to like this show.

Concertgebouw or Paris sounds like a plan. Monday?

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Submitted by jefito on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 14:36

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@DeadVikes -- the next show we caught was 5/28/77, in Hartford, officially released as "To Terrapin". That was fun, too. And that was it for '77, except for catching Garcia at the Orpheum in Boston in December. Had to wait until the following November of '78 and the two Boston Music Hall shows before we saw them again.

@Good Ole Grateful: not too much more to relate. We caravanned in to the Garden with several cars, and were doing well until we hit Chinatown (which was pretty sketchy at the time), and the lead car just stopped dead, a passenger door flew open, and one of our entourage flew out and disappeared. We sat, stunned, trying to figure out what had happened. After seemingly a long time (i.e. 5 minutes or so), he reappeared, got back in and we proceeded to the show. Turned out that he had a bad case of Full Bladder Syndrome and couldn't hold it any more. Kids, sheesh.

Basically we were trying to figure out what was going on during the show, since there was not a lot of live stuff that we'd heard by that point, mostly just Live Dead, Europe '72, and Skull & Roses (and Anthem, though we didn't really realize that it was live stuff then), a bit of bootlegged stuff from '76 and the choice Alligator sequence from 4/29/71; what we were seeing wasn't really like that. The Bertha opener was cool, as it opened Skull & Roses, but then it all turned different. We were trying to figure out names for the Terrapin songs, coming up with "The Soldier and the Sailor" and "California on the Burning Shore". The slow tempo of Friend of the Devil threw us. Peggy-O was cool, and stood out. Sampson, I knew from an old Peter, Paul and Mary record that my dad had. Eyes, we knew, and remember liking The Wheel once we finally figured out what it was. Looking back, Drumz was quite short, which is fine by me (not a Drumz/Space fan). I wrote what I could figure out of the set list on the only piece of paper I could find -- my college meal card -- which torqued the meal staff for the rest of the semester.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 05/09/2021 - 19:19

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That would be grand. Add in either a spring 89 or 90 + the pre slotted '77 and a random other couple shows and we have a week long party.

Any disagrees get first pick of an alternative. We should make a point of celebrating Spring. So many great shows, so little time....

The Right of Spring, dead style.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 07:23

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@jefito - thanks so much for the great share!
I'll speak for myself, but for somebody that started seeing shows in '86, that was a super fun read, especially the part about trying to figure out what songs were being played.
Hearing Estimated & Terrapin for the first time, is miles apart from hearing the first I Will Take You Home.
Far Out!

So.. any memories about 5/28/77 experience?

Second show vs first show, scene and what you remember?

Great stuff man and thanks again for sharing!

Alright, Jimbo.. call the show bro!
Looks like 5/10/72 anniversary today.
Could be a good listen.

Dug listening to some May '77 this weekend.
That was a pretty good tour, really surprised people don't talk about it more :)

Keep those good time stories coming!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 09:18

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5/7/77 and 5/28/77, what a way to start and shows in 78! Great memories I am sure.

5/10/72 is on GOGD, and it is a big show.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 15:15

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1) Pick out a smallish venue with great acoustics
2) Make sure the venue is outfitted with Meyer Sound's best (and loudest) system
3) Hire Candace Brightman for the evening to provide the proper mood lighting
4) Invite the leaders from all the problematic areas - Russia, China, Iran, U.S.A., North Korea, etc. - mandatory attendance. Chemically-induced attitude adjustment optional
6) Select a passage of Grateful Dead music (not too long, say 30 minutes max) for proper face melting - turned up to 11, of course
7) After the hugs and apologies that will inevitably ensue, sit down in a drum circle, hash out the various issues, and promise to be kind to everyone

There. That oughta do it.

My musical selection would be the NFA>GDTRFB>NFA from 11/17/1971 (Albuquerque - DaP 26). That outro going into the second NFA is pure magic, especially as it's improvisational. I can't think of another musical ensemble that would even attempt such a thing, much less be able to pull it off so seamlessly. No way anyone can have dark thoughts or evil intentions after absorbing those 19 minutes of musical bliss.

Your selection?