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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • That Mike
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    Glad to hear you may come to the dark side, and root for the Leafs. I don’t think the AVS will crash & burn, the team is well coached, great skill. Vegas is my dark horse for the final. Boston is a team we love to hate, so hoping we meet them, too.

    My work friend that lived in Sweden said while living there, he almost needed a neck brace from the whiplash from your head spinning. These gals weren’t Aunt Bea from Mayberry, and he said the ones he met were fun, always up for camping, hiking, canoodling, anything physical and fun. I met his wife he brought home - a dish, so I know it wasn’t a fishing story.

    If ever this Kung Flu nonsense ends, we always love having our American kin visit. That dynamic is what made The Band so special!

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    Glad to hear,

    that most aren’t hearing it!

    Ruthless People, classic! They make us watch that in AV school

    JIM: I’m just teasing, I know the length varies with frequency, but I’d have to look it up lol. I knew where you were coming from.

    GO LEAFS! if the AVs crash & burn I’m going with the Leafs! or who ever is left Canadaland!
    Your a funny guy, I’d imagine you, icecrmcnkid and me could get up in some trouble in some border town or at the Canadian ballet!
    “Enough hockey”, blasphemy! And coming from a Canadian no less! Isn’t that agaaaiinnst the law up there ; )
    Yeah, Kadri doesn’t give me that warm fuzzy feeling...
    Swedish Ladies: my best Buddy’s mom growing up was from Sweden. After his folks split up she went back for a few years. My buddy stayed there with her for a year or so and it changed his life. Guy never had a date in his life, over there he’s got multiple girl friends etc...sends me card says “don’t get married until you’ve been to Sweden”

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    Sorry all, but this is Toronto’s year to finally shake the curse, and win it all. Their domination starts tonight.

    For AVS fans - a great team, but sorry you got stuck with our cast off Nazem Kadri. Something happens to this guy’s brain come playoff time, he always does something reckless (and dangerous), and it hurts the team. Cut him loose, you guys are better without him.

    Enough hockey. Kinda Dead related, I was replaying the Bear’s Sonic Journal box for the NRPS. I have to say, Garcia’s pedal steel on the first few discs was pretty…ragged. By the fourth disc, things smooth out, and he has a handle on it. Regardless, he was a master musician, and could have given a complex stringed instrument like the sitar a run for the roses if he put his mind to it.

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    Run Mountain. Sleepy Hollow Hog Stompers. 1962

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WgbFp8QhXaw

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    Dave's 38 sounds fine to me....

    ....but I have yet to listen on headphones. need to get on that.
    Game 3 Vegas vs The Wild tonight. We don't have very good luck there, but the winds of change are coming.

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    Very Amusing

    This site is most excellent as Bill and Ted would say. I have been taking it all in and enjoying everybody's thoughts on the show. I also do not hear the issue, but I am going to look at the specific songs and times that you said Oroborous. What I find very amusing is that Bob Weir's loud guitar is at the root of the problem and Keithfan was saying how loud that model guitar is he's playing and that it is not his usual guitar choice (sorry I don't recall which one). I can hear how different Mr. Weir sounds here and would like to hear more like it.

    I have been enjoying this Dave's Pick even more than last years 74 show from Jai-Alai, and that is my 2nd favorite 1974 show. Dave's Picks 13 is my favorite. I admit I am short on 74 shows, but am just saying I think the Grateful Dead had an extraordinary night amongst extraordinary nights. I like the two loud guitars it's a very different listening experience.

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    I was just making that up.. I tried to find the reference to Phil's stack size on the Wall of Sound, but failed..

    I have come to the conclusion from reading all these posts back and forth.. that there are people here with WAY better sound systems than mine. I did find the topic both interesting and amusing.. how you put together than analysis of the sound for this show is impressive.. and you all got me to listen to the show(s) a few more times while it's fresh.. which is good.

    Great thread actually.. some really enjoyable reads. and it got me thinking of that guy that re-designed and built a 1/6 scale WOS. I'm jealous.. by far the best man cave I know of. Of course I have not been to chez OuroB yet.. which I am sure is impressive.

    Anyway.. many thanks folks.. some great reads which brings us on the brink of yet another, hopefully glorious weekend. Wishing the best to all you out there. Make the best of today and tomorrow.

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    I was just making that up.. I tried to find the reference to Phil's stack size on the Wall of Sound, but failed..

    I have come to the conclusion from reading all these posts back and forth.. that there are people here with WAY better sound systems than mine. I did find the topic both interesting and amusing.. how you put together than analysis of the sound for this show is impressive.. and you all got me to listen to the show(s) a few more times while it's fresh.. which is good.

    Great thread actually... and it got me thinking of that guy that re-designed and built a 1/6 scale WOS. I'm jealous.. by far the best man cave I know of. Of course I have not been to chez OuroB yet.. which I am sure is impressive.

    Anyway.. many thanks folks.. some great reads which brings us on the brink of yet another, hopefully glorious weekend. Wishing the best to all you out there. Make the best of today and tomorrow.

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    Nice Sabres reference.

    I was actually referring to the ones being sold by Judge Reinhold in Ruthless People.

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    Another losing lottery ticket!

    ABBA! Of course! Completely slipped my mind, but after that video, I will not be so foolish again! Heart? Bangles? Good grief.

    I had a work buddy who went to play semi-pro hockey for a few years in Sweden. Married a Swedish gal, and said it was THE BEST time of his life! As Motley Crüe said: Girls! Girls! Girls!

    Oro: I still feel “funny” watching them!! ;)

    Thanks for the memories, Proudfoot!

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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How about a Dylan and The Dead box set to celebrate Dylan’s 80th birthday. Obviously, it isn’t going to happen but it would be interesting to hear.

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Wow. Just wow. #4648 is sounding great here in Baltimore!

Love the artwork on this one too! Very cool the way they went with the Weather Reporter for the first ever WRS. It is stuff like that that keeps me coming back!

"Bertha" is a little bumpy, but thanks to the kind folks here, I knew to simply wait it out for a bit and that things would correct themselves - and boy, did they ever! Very happy with this release - it's got me shouting like Bobby at the end of this "Looks Like Rain!"

On to set 2!

Peace

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I love this
A show I am totally unfamiliar with
Oh for a soundboard of this quality of 9 11 73

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Thats cool
I think vguy found somma dat yesterday

I saw a screening of that flick years ago

I dont recall the song tho

Y'all be cool, Nappy

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This might be their favorite El Paso of all time? lol I like the '77-'78 versions myself :-)

I gotta dig deeper into this one.

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Otis my man! I couldn't figure out what the point of the artwork was. Then I actually commented yesterday about how the WRS didn't have its normal ending (as if they had not yet developed it) and I still didn't make the connnection. I also just saw the animated DaP 38 cover art from the email advertisement. Very cool. I guess I thought it was a windy night at Nassau.....

I am really loving what I've heard so far. I'm up to Truckin' now. A lot of what I'm enjoying is the clarity of Jerry and Bobby playing together. In the past when Bobby's been turned up loud, Jerry's been too low; but here they each pretty much own a speaker. It's a very unique mix. The separation between instruments reminds me of DaP 18 at the Orpheum, though it was more Jerry and Keith on that one.

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Among the biggest tentpole shows of tentpole shows imho.

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- jack black

5 2 70 rox

3 7 81 rox

Gotta try again on 9 8 73
Too much trippus interuptus on the first go round

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Sums up 5/2/70. Often overlooked-this includes my favourite version of "Good Lovin'". As well as "Other One" and "Dancing in the Street." And maybe "Viola Lee". But the whole show is amazing.

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Wow, Gerd, that is seriously bad news. It was also cancelled last year. Two years no Oktoberfest! The whole world has turned to shit. 💩 Given the choice, I would much rather have beer than corona bat flu 🦇 but we are denied that choice.

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No not that 420!

Almost can't believe my ears, but at the 4:20 mark Not Fade Away part 1, I hear Keith playing some Hammond organ. The last time I recall anything with him playing Hammond was October of '71, and maybe his first couple shows. You can hear some on Dave's Picks 3.

Yes Daverock, The Other One 5/2/70. I bought Dick's Picks 8 based on these comments from listeners on the Heady Version site:

"Garcia's guitar tone here is pure liquid magic"

"High voltage tight lightning jam without a meltdown"

"Every time you think Jerry's peaked, he pulls out another blistering run"

"12:20 begins a sequence where Garcia and his guitar reaches uncharted territory. Did not know this level was even possible"

And my favorite:

"Garcia is in orbit - no other way to characterize it. Makes his case re the Nobel for Holy Fuck!"

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My ears had whiplash too, mouth agape and gobsmacked. I wish there had been more...and call me crazy but
I swear Truckin' is about to turn into Need a Miracle at about 7min. but then its only '73. Oh well, might as well listen to the whole show, again! Really enjoying this one!

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The ending of Let it Grow on this release is like delicious melting fudge. That is all.

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I think I can confidently say that this is my favorite Dave’s so far. Even though the sound quality isn’t as good as the last few Dave’s(especially the last one, very crisp), the playing is sublime. The mix is nice too, even if Keith gets buried sometimes. It’s almost weird to hear Bobby so loud, but it’s really nice especially during Row Jimmy and Ramble On Rose. Jerry’s playing is also very good, and Phil is nice and up front, at least to my ears. From what I’ve heard of the bonus disk so far, I’m really enjoying it. Overall, great release. Highlights for me are the WRS, Row Jimmy, Sugaree, Eyes>China Doll, and that entire 3rd disk is something very special.

Also, a May 73 box set would be wonderful; a perfect complement to this Dave’s. I would also like to a see a Fall 84 or Greek Theater 84 release sometime. Those Greek shows are gold!

As for the next Dave’s(or future Dave’s), I’m hoping for 9/15/85, 2/14/86(trust me, it’s really good), and 6/29/76.

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Like a board tape, unedited, oraganic and real. So many "live" albums as official releases have tons of overdubs. Not these, the Dick's and Dave's picks feature every note as played.

I would like to hear more crowd noise, but again just the natural audience banter not the piped in "KISS Alive" shit. Although I do love KISS.

The Grateful Dead are the most human sounding of any band I have ever heard. Sometimes loose, sometimes tight, sometimes sloppy, otherworldy, in and out of tune. It's what I love about them and it isn't a backhanded compliment.

I come to the well of the Dead for what I can't get anywhere else, and this release is absolutely primo in that regard.

Cheers everyone.

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With all the talk about 5/2/70 lately, I decided to take another listen to Dick's Picks #8. It really was a really great show! Over the weekend, I was also able to find and download an SBD version of the show that included the NRPS set in between the Dead's acoustic and electric sets! Gonna give that version of the show a listen to soon!

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No other information is available.....

Why can't this series be released in digital format? Every other release, other than Dave's is sold that way...

Only thinking, maybe because they can skim, cds off the top and sell them on Ebay. I truly wonder how many copies of this LIMITED EDITION and Numbered series. are out there...There a many copies abound with no numbers...wait I get it....the numbered series is limited, the unnumbered don't count.

Also, I see them on Ebay, being bid on, at twice the price or more. Yet, Dead.net, had not sold out, at that time.

To many hands in the cookie jar.

Keithfan-Caniol - yes, this version of The Other One is transcendental. Incredible that they could hit such peaks as this in a live performance, and then release "American Beauty" a few months later. AB is also magical, but in a way that couldn't be more different. I can't think of any other band that could produce such inspiring music in such contrasting genres in the same year. Great live AND in the studio during 1970.

I used to have a bootleg of this show with the NRPS set included back at the tail end of the 80s. Long gone now, unfortunately.

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Having problems finding decent artwork for Vol. 38 ... Need !!!

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With a deflating exhale, I will add today marks the 51st anniversary of "four dead in Ohio.." just a couple days after the famed Dicks Picks Vol. 8.

One of my all time favorite shows too. It's just spectacularly executed, they were on fire that day. ..and now it looks like I have to search high and low for the NRPS addition. Ah, found it.

Some of the all time classic shows to my ears occurred in 1970. Dicks Picks 4 and 8, the Sept and Nov runs at the Capitol and others. Plus.. the guy that was supposed to hit the record button was MIA most of the year. Can you imagine what would have been if the hit the record button buy hadn't sprained his hit the record button finger? What might have been... set the wayback machine for 2/1/1970, New Orleans.

and Pelazami - Jeff Smith does an incredible job creating digital images of the artwork. He lives in a cave up in the hills though.. so like me, it takes him a couple extra days to get his copy. I am really looking forward to getting and listening to mine. It's getting an awful amount of positive hype and good reviews.

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I've been driving myself crazy since I received my copy yesterday trying to figure out what that shadowy crab claw / batwing looking thing lurking in the wheat is. Dave's only hint on Twitter was "it's very meaningful in the Dead world..." I'm gonna feel really stupid if it is something obvious, but my mind just can't connect the dots on this one. Help!

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZA7fXiSNI. I really enjoyed this show, Keystone Palo Alto was a pretty small place, I saw Garcia play there a lot of times . I remember one night when Hunter was on the bill with Garcia he said, "I remember when this place was a Purity Store, we used to shopliftit in here". I saw Muddy Waters play at Keystone Palo Alto one time, fun times!

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I do love this release and the bonus disc is really sweet. But Im wondering if all the hype from Dave in the seaside chat about how well Bobby was playing in the show was to prepare us for how low Jerry seems in the mix and how in the front Bobby is on the 9/8 show. The bonus disc from 9/7 seems better balanced but Im straining to hear Jerry at times in the main show and its a bummer cause what I can hear is smoking! All in all this is a solid release though and Im already on my second full listen!!!

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I was at the Kent state 1 year moratorium anniversary of the killing of 4 Ohio state students by the Ohio state national guard. It's hard to believe it's been 50 years. Seems like it went by in a flash.
It was a very somber day, there was a lot of people there, protesting the war and marking the anniversary of the killings. Lots of cops too. Some were angry, but most were sad. The war was still raging, the cops were still hating on everything hippie, the draft was still going on and young people were angry and afraid and anxious and fed up.
That was about the time I started to realize that they were never going to change. That I could not change them with all my yelling and protesting. It's like everything that I had been taught did not apply to them. The "establishment" was too established to bring down, or even change just a little. They made the rules but didn't have to live by them. A somber day indeed.
There was going to be a large gathering on the 50th anniversary of the killings, but Covid cancelled those plans. Joe Walsh (a student at the time of the murders) and David Crosby were scheduled to play a concert with Joe reforming the old Barnstorm line up for the show. That would have been great.
I do not know what that shadowy figure in the wheat is, anybody?
This is an excellent release, that 3rd disc is awesome.

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Thank you! Smacking myself on the forehead wondering how I missed that. :-)

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I saw an article recently about the woman/girl in the iconic photo. That photo really f'd up her life. She was identified, and people spewed hate on her. Sickening.

She was apparently a 14 year old runaway when the pic was taken.

America, you wonderful, digusting, admirable, foul entity...

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I thought it was the top of a cats head. After the crow, the china cat. Ears don't look right for a wolf?.?

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I'm absolutely loving DaP 38. It doesn't get much better than '73 Dead. Mine arrived yesterday, just days after the official release, and glory glory hallejuah, all the discs actually play! I've only had time to listen to discs 1 and 2, and they're as great as others have said. This is right in my sweet spot, a 10 out of 10, AFAIC.

I'll probably write more about the music at some point, but for now I just want to mention a couple things about the audio: one is that this is indeed one of the few shows where Bob's guitar is as loud or louder than Jerry's in the mix. In some ways, this is great, and I didn't really mind having the chance to really savor Bob's amazing, ridiculously under-rated guitar playing. BUT for anyone who's interested, I did notice that you can adjust this to a significant degree but adjusting the balance between your stereo channels. Bob's in the left channel, Jer in the right, and for me, putting the "balance" nob at about 1 o'clock brought Jerry up a little and, I thought, improved the stereo image.

Also, as some others have noticed, there is some weirdness is the extreme low frequencies at a couple points, and I could see how it could sound like a defect on some systems, but to my ears it sounded like something Phil was doing intentionally: not a classic Phil Bomb, but more like maybe his amp was distorting just a little at peak passages and he decided to just go with it and try to make something out of it? You now Phil. Remember that scene in the Grateful Dead Movie, where his bass starts making weird sounds as the guy holds the move camera near it, and instead of getting annoyed or freaking out, Phil tells him to keep doing it, and he immediately starts twisting nobs on his amp just to see what weird noises he can get? Love that guy.

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actually i think jerry is in left channel to simulate his location from the perspective of an audience member in 73, bob is certainly loud but i think there is plenty of jerry, i really like the mixes with guitars on either side, sometimes the recordists (or mixers for multitrack) put bob and keith on either side with jerry in the middle which also makes sense in a way, bob's sound in here comes sunshine is extra...

i will echo earlier comments about the rarity of keith on a hammond sounding organ, did they just have one at nassau and decided to give it a try? also i def thought it sounded like miracle at one point in the truckin jam, not too surprising for a driving E blues jam

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Interesting comments on Daves 38, which I haven't heard yet. Bob's apparent presence seems to echo a discussion from last week concerning lead and rhythm guitar. Maybe its a bit misleading to regard a guitarist who favours a chordal approach as rhythm and someone who plays single lines as lead. I vaguely remember reading an interview with Jerry somewhere, in which he said that many times he followed rather than led, when he was playing. But because he was (usually) louder, it seemed as though he was the one doing the leading. To be sure, he often would have been-but not always.

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Define "wee bit of time" for me. The release date is now 3 days gone. My shipment hit my local Post Office a week ago. They have flat out told me they have no clue where the package is. I got email yesterday from Dead.net customer service asking for my info so they could look into it. Hopeful there at least.
Is this mail innovations thing just about the $? This must be the 4th or 5th DP I waited for long after the tracking showed a transfer to the PO. A couple made it. I'm pretty sure I had to have help from Mary on this forum to get a couple of them replaced. I'll pay extra money for UPS or Fed Ex. PLEASE anyone who has influence suggest this option. Put a big handling fee on there so you can do more free shipping to people who need it.
When the announcement of DP 38 on sale hit my inbox I ordered a copy just in case I never see my replacement order. I'd be out the bonus disc but surely could find that music somewhere.
If dead.net makes this right so I get the subscription order I will give the other copy to someone on here who missed out. I'll even pay shipping because I'll be so happy to get my proper copy.

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Hey now my friends and freaks! DaP #38 was waiting for me in my my mailbox when I got home last night. And it's number 1780. I don't think I've ever gotten a lower number since I've been subscribing to the series. There is truly no rhyme or reason to the way the releases are allocated and I don't really care about that. It's all about the music and the memories!

Anyway, I'm downloading it now so I can listen to it today at work. What I've heard in the Listening Party and on Dave's SiriusXM special is awesome. This might have been a show I attended. The 60s and 70s are such a blur but I got to a ton of shows in the NYC/Philly area back in the day. Nassau was one of the venues I saw lots of shows at.

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@HUSKERWING
Everything coming through the USPS is unreliable these days. Without getting into politics, I will say that the current Postmaster General hasn't helped the timeliness of our mail service. I accidentally ordered two subscriptions this year and my second hasn't shown up yet.

Hang in there!

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wee bit of time would be until this Friday

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Ok thanks! I can wait.

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The shipping issues associated with this site has nothing to do with UPS or the Post Office, if it never leaves the warehouse.

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I see what their game is. One indispensable release a year (Dave's 34...Dave's 38) to keep suckers like me to re-up. And that's fine.

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