Dave's Picks Vol. 38: Dave’s Picks Vol. 38: Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY 9/8/73

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 19, 2021 - 7:44am

#1371

JimInMD

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Sound Issues / DaP 38

There is really only one solution. It's a bit complicated.. so hang in there with me. This is what we all need to do.

1) Get out the credit card with the greatest limit.
2) Google, select and purchase the new Wall of Sound, Home Edition TM (C) R with this credit card. As soon as the purchase is made destroy this card.
3) DO NOT TELL your partner/significant other.
4) Go to the roughest bar in town and tell some raunchy mom jokes to the bouncer. Keep doing this until he pummels you.
5) Come home and tell your partner / significant other you were mugged and robbed. Tell them all they took was your credit card.
6) If your partner is suspicious file a police report.
7) Install the WOS Home Edition in your listening room while your partner is not home. If complaints arise later, amnesia from the head trauma is your response. "honey, I am having trouble remembering anything from that week.
8) Replay Dave's Picks 38 at high volume.

Your sound issues are now resolved. Happy listening.
May 19, 2021 - 7:10am

#1372

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

The levels are too high

I mentioned that a while ago, after others had already detected it with headphones.

I played the CDs twice on my stereo system are did not detect any sound issues.
Onkyo 6-disc CD changer
Cambridge Audio receiver
Onkyo subwoofer
Bose 301 speakers

I then imported to computer and made ALAC files for my music players and AAC files to play from a USB flash drive in the car.
When I played the imported AIFF files on the computer there was extensive distortion through the small external computer speakers.
The colored bars that show the sound levels (not volume) on the computer audio software were almost hitting red. Clearly too high, but don’t know if that is on the original recording or the result of mastering.
Recall that on 8-25-72 Norman boosted Phil’s bass beyond what was on the original recording.
Maybe he boosted the levels for this release.

I played the ALAC files with an iBasso DX120 music player connected to my Cambridge Audio receiver. Did not detect any distortion or other sound flaws.
Been playing the AAC files in the car this week and have not heard any issues so far (set 2 started just before getting to work today).

So, it definitely depends on your system whether you hear the issues.
Crappy computer speakers sound terrible.
Apparently a high end system like Oro’s reveals the sound problems too.
My midrange system sounds good as does the audio system in my car.
May 19, 2021 - 6:43am

#1373

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

sound quality

Upon several listens to these cd's, I concur, this release has a few abnormalities that don't take away from the overall enjoyment of listening to these discs, but they are noticeable and makes me wonder if it was the master tape or was it a mailed in mastering job?
This has also made me wonder, will the rest of Dave's sound like this? I love me some Jerry right up front, why I'm here, but there should be a better balance of all the players in a band, not just one or two.
Disappointing? yes, deal breaker? not sure yet, will have to wait and see, but if there is any more killer shows that they do want to release, lets hope that the folks who do the mastering of these ancient tapes does a little bit better job than this release.
On a separate note, I was privileged to receive a code for the Dead and Company presale going on today at 10 am. Funny, I did not receive a code last tour, not privileged I guess. The price for these tickets is outrageous. A vip guaranteed reserve seat is over 250.00$. That's for one ticket.
It was fun getting excited like the old days, yahoo, the dead to tour, get your head together, get some tickets, get excited, get ready.....then I realized that those days are over for me. I can go see Billy strings, get a great hotel room, then go to the hot air balloon festival and get to ride on a hot air balloon, all for the same amount of cash. Kinda seems like a no brainer here, twice as much fun for the same dollars.
I realize that Bobby, Mickey and Billy are getting up there and there won't be too many more tours for them, and I would love to revisit these guys one more time.
The last time I tried to get tickets and got them, the show was cancelled due to Mayer's appendicitis. I don't want to jinx it so I will pass on this tour, besides, it's just too soon for me to be out there with all those vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Too all those who decide to go, enjoy.
May 19, 2021 - 6:15am

#1374

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Dreading

I ultimately reached the conclusion that part of the issue is how people are listening. I do not listen on headphones, computer speakers or use any type of equalizer. So far I have not listened in the car. I did try using Dolby on one of our stereo systems, which reduced the noise to a certain extent, but not entirely.
May 18, 2021 - 9:50pm

#1375

dreading

Joined:
January 17, 2018

That's a fact

I've been in the record business all my life and agree with AJS. There is almost no way an audio anomaly like what was described could occur on some discs and not others for Dave's Picks. These discs are pressed ùfrom the same master. There would need to be two different master mixes for a subset of CDs to contain an anomaly. I would say the player could be a factor, but Obo ruled that out already. I assume like Jim said we are not counting Bertha because it is uneven for obvious reasons. I hear a decent sounding 1973 show here. The master tapes sound better better than Pacific Northwest but not as good as DaP 5. I don't hear many audio issues at all. I would like to hear what Obo and AJS are disliking. I whipped out the Bose headphones and all I hear is Jerry "shredding". What a night he is having. Weir too. Early on somebody said Keith was gone and that is true. Every once in a while I will hear a section that sounds like a tunnel for 5 or 10 seconds, but they are few and far between. Or Weir will just stop playing like in China Cat Sunflower but he needs to rest sometimes. He played China Cat, HCS, EOTW and Bird Song all in one night ;-)
May 18, 2021 - 8:24pm

#1376

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Sound

The chances are virtually nil that some defect would have only affected such a small number of discs. Furthermore, it only occurs on the 9/8 show, not 9/7. I am very surprised as well that others are not hearing it.
May 18, 2021 - 8:16pm

#1377

Dark-Star

Joined:
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Oroborous

I don't hear it, which isn't saying much. I rip everything to my hard drive as WAV files and run them through an equalizer with a bunch of sound options. "Concert Hall" is perfect for these old Dead tapes, plus I push up the four EQ sliders all the way to the right about halfway.

That being said Oborious, this sentence got my attention. You say:

I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.

This phenomena sounds like something Norman may have done in production. It sounds like a feature I have that prevents clipping at high volume. I am a fan of good sound but no engineer so I will copy the internet definition, which you probably know:

Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating.

When I play stuff too loud this feature cuts back on only the parts that are causing the clipping. It is obvious to the ear when this feature on my system gets activated. It sounds exactly like your description where you say 'several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.'

My theory is that the master tapes Jeff Norman worked with had some hot spots so he used a feature like what I have on my equalizer to "even out" all the levels as he input the music from the master tapes on to a digital storage.

I am not sure why I don't hear it but I guess my EQ is dressing it up. If I listen to the CD with no EQ it sounds like the treble needs to get turned up all the way. Even then it doesn't sound even close to the quality of the EQ and Concert Hall enhancement. It makes me curious if a lot of people out there listen straight off the CD with nothing 'extra' to improve the sound.

On a different note I laughed heartily at the quacking duck interview. Well done whoever made that up. It sounds like something Jerry would say.

And last, I listened to the Dark Star / Morning Dew that KF mentioned on 5/18/72. I don't know how I overlooked that one but it is much better than I remembered. Somehow the Europe 72 Dark Stars never stuck with me. Probably because I rarely play those shows. Only because I want them to be special every time.
May 18, 2021 - 7:31pm

#1378

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: That Mike

Great joke.. made my day.
I wholeheartedly agree.

Yes.. the sound on 38 is a bit wobbly in the beginning. But isn't that Grateful Dead standard time? It sounds ok by the time they get warmed up.
May 18, 2021 - 6:28pm

#1379

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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The Munich Invasion 5/18/72

Next up on the E72 anniversary list. What at a great show. And it's Dark Star => Morning Dew night.
I'm going to go out on limb here and say it's the first time they did this combo. This is one of my favorite shows from the tour. Jerry's guitar is louder than usual (and louder is always better). Crunchy guitars are tight!

Sugar Magnolia really hits a groove, and Billy has this absolutely ridiculous drum fill at the....drum fill part; I've never heard him play it quite like this - it's like gets a running headstart. Great version despite a classic Bobby lyric miss early on (proof of the weed).

Jack Straw is great. This is maybe the second one where Jerry sings the Watchman and Tulsa verses, and Bobby forgets it's not his line anymore - so they both jump the Watchman - not a fair fight at all.

And some great banter after Black-Throated Wind. Jerry always makes me laugh up there. He was the king of one-liners:

Girl Fan (to Jerry): Lovelight!

Jerry: Turn on YOUR Lovelight baby.

Girl Fan: You Turn on yours first.

Jerry: Oh no, after you...
May 18, 2021 - 5:06pm

#1380

alvarhanso

Joined:
January 16, 2014

Sound quality on 38

I was surprised this is the first real discussion about it. I got my copies a week ago, and have made it through the Bonus and Bird Song and Playing as I ripped and converted and had 9/7 first. Also, made it up to Weather Report Suite on the release. The sound struck me as incredibly washy, and while it's great to hear Keith and Bob much more than usual (some releases you wonder if Keith played on much at all from his presence on the tapes, but these are great for Keith fans!), so I just balance that with the cymbal heavy mix. Maybe they were trying new mic placements for the drums. Not Kidd Candelario's best tape by any stretch. He's usually top notch, though. Jai Alai Fronton last year is a phenomenal Kidd tape. That may be my favorite Wall of Sound release for sound quality.

Also, I'm surprised, or have missed, no reference to the Bonus Eyes ending not with its Slipknotish jam, but ending with a Here Comes Sunshine jam. A fantastic Eyes! Phil with a different start to his solo, and a different feel, maybe reacting to the Wolf darting around? So far enjoying the release and bearing with the sound.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

I %#@! Knew It

There's no such thing as a left-handed monkey wrench.

Greatest Story Ever Told

rox

very psychedelic

The Greatest Story I ever told....

....was when we scored quaaludes at Portland '95.
Ever see that scene from Wolf Of Wallstreet?
Nailed it.

HOPE IT ARRIVES THIS TIME...

I ordered Dave's Pick's #37 the minute it went on sale...said it was being shipped...When I checked my Tracking #..It kept saying it never left the warehouse, after 3-4 weeks I just requested a refund...Now I did the same thing with Dave's Picks # 38...(My first shows were in '73...Thou I got on ''The Bus'' in '69)...Anyway, I hope # 38 gets to me this time...I Dunno, Maybe New Mexico is Foreign to these Folks...Just have to wait and see.....

New Mexico is beautiful country Tom tom....

.....congrats on seeing the Boyz and Grrl so early. Jealous.
They will arrive.

Stuck...stuck...

stuck...stuck...

ever experienced "insufferable"?

Stolz....

....you gotta skip?

No im just kvetching

My beloved likes to watch a show called Unsellable Houses

I
Cant
Stand
It

But being the awesome guy i am
I bite my tongue and let her enjoy

The voices of the hosts

Ggrraattee on my nerves

Dennis / Wolf

They don't look right for a *real* wolf but they do look exactly like the ears and top of the head of the wolf sticker on Jerry's "Wolf" guitar, that he used in this show (but before he put the wolf sticker on it).

Keithfan2112

Sure, there is a left handed monkey wrench. It's right next to the 50' of shoreline I just coiled up

Left hand monkey wrench

I think that they are in stock at Ned Flander’s Leftorium.

#38 just landed in…

#38 just landed in Nottingham U.K. and I’m half way through the bonus disc which is an absolute treasure. One of the best Here Comes Sunshine I’ve heard. The artwork is terrific. The artist has managed to include the dancing couple who appear on the original concert bill which is in the booklet if you look very hard (it’s very small).

working from home today

giving another listen to new Dave's

I hope I "get it" this time around (too many interruptions during virgin listen)

"She was a girl from Nottingham..."

Daves 38 shirt has shipped....

....eta Saturday.

UK Delivery and GarciaLive #16

Garcia #16 has been announced for June 25th. It’s Nov 15 1991.

FRANKPARRY

Well done getting #38 in the UK. Mine is still in California with UPS saying they’ve given it to USPS and USPS saying that are still waiting for it. I think you got a shipping notice a couple of days before I did and mine will have been delayed because nothing seems to happen during a weekend. Still anytime in the next couple of weeks will be fine.

Euro delivery.

Colin, I'm one step ahead of you. Today USPS has received my copy from UPS and it is allegedly on it's way to it's destination. I am amazed that Frank got his so quickly but I guess his shipped earlier than mine. I got my shipping notice on release day, 30 April. UPS received it on 3 May. Who knows when it will drop in my mailbox.

I also got a mail from Garcia Family Provisions about the forthcoming GarciaLive Volume 16. I am underwhelmed by the artwork, but I will buy it for the music not the packaging.

Thank you Kidd

Thank you Kidd for making an amazing recording! It is a treat to hear both Jerry and Bobby so clearly. I think someone mentioned the speed shift at 4:20 in Greatest Story. I've only made it through first set and up to China Rider, but I know I will be listening to this many times. Thanks Dave and all, this release sounds incredible.

The Eagle Has Landed!

Just got my hands on DaP 38 + Bonus here in the SF Bay Area, really excited to listen through it later today. To Colin's point, my DaP 38 was sitting in USPS limbo from the 2nd to the 4th in the exact same situation so I wouldn't worry about it too much unless more than 4 business days has passed. The shirt has also shipped surprisingly quickly and its currently at a UPS facility across the Bay with an expected delivery this Saturday. Really grateful for this release and I hope the next two DaP feature shows from 67-70 and the latter half of 90-93. Much love to all!

GarciaLive 16 up for presale....

https://youtu.be/GxtfQP-CQLo

GarciaLive 16 Art

SimonRob, that is hilarious to me that you don't care for the artwork. I got the e-mail and thought, "Cool art! I wish the DaP series would explore different styles than just the 'Realistic Skeleton' motif." :)

One of my favorite things on here is when someone says that some show/year is amazing, when I'm scratching my head, wondering why I am non-plussed by the same music, or when someone says that they did not care for some show/year that I absolutely adore. How boring would the world be if we all enjoyed things the same way?

Be kind. Rewind.

Garcia v16

I have that show on DVD.
It’s grate, and the Lay Down Sally smokes.
The audio on the DVD is audience, so a SBD of the show will be awesome.

Edit:
Hah! The reCRAPTCHA image was a UPS truck, and there were palm trees, so I’m going out on a limb and saying that the UPS truck was carrying DaP’s from Gnarlywood.

Joshbythebay

Mine went in limbo after usps took it from UPS. I called again today and talked to a different person at the local Post office. She said just because tracking says it was scanned and accepted at that location it didn't mean the package was actually there. I just need to wait another 10 business days. Usps scanned package on 4/26 at the local office but I guess they didn't.
My issue with this is the fact that my house, like most these last 14 months gets packages nearly every day. Everyone is talking about how slow the USPS is but the ONLY thing I can think of I didn't get via USPS on time are the DP releases coming thru mail innovations. I've been a eBay nut the last 6 month and stuff comes on time every time. No lost packages. Plus this DP thing was going on long before covid or the political manipulations started. I'm pretty sure it started when the UPS to USPS deal began.
Dead.net has already looked at my request and is processing replacement. That's awesome for them to do so quickly. Surely this one will make it eventually. I just wish they would offer the option for me to get expedited shipping.

uh...

I don't get it (9/8)

granted it is ambience music during a workday.

but one of the best performances of 73?

I have to disagree.

I am not trying to be a wet blanket. I just feel like Seinfeld's Elaine and the English Patient.

I have to find some time to listen to the second set in the car with the sound on LOUD. then I might have a different opinion.

12/18/73
2/9/73
2/15/73
3/21/73

THOSE blow this out of the proverbial water.

I'll try again. I have nothing to lose but my mind.

Again, I am not trying to bring everyone down. I just don't get wood with this show. Perhaps my expectations were too high? (huh huh...he said 'expectations'...huh huh...)

Woo-hoo the Eagle has...

er,?, Dave’s has landed in Eagle! Ripping’ as we speak.
Guess what I’m doing for the next 5+ hours ; )

Mysterious BONUS Disc artwork, Butters! That’s it, it’s the Wolf’s Wolf sticker as these were the first GD shows he played it....that HK is pretty nifty! Glad you figured it out as it was kinda creeping me out lol.

LEFT HANDED MONKEY WRENCHlol, brings back memories of Boy Scouts, like when we camped up at Camp Northern Lights in Canada, and from the farthest site to the nearest was pretty far. (It was along a lake) So at all the big jamborees/camps with multiple troops, the thing was to mess with newbies (tenderfoots) by sending them to the farthest camp possible to get some crucial item PRONTO, “and don’t come back without it” The usual items were a left handed smoke shifter, a raisin peeler, occasionally a left hand monkey wrench, or my favorite, a 100’ feet of Shoreline! Which being by a lake they’d say “it’s right down there”. Of course when you finally made to that camp, they’d tell ya it was at the farthest camp from where you now were, as they’d “just lent it to them” so back and forth the poor dumb ass would go until they finally realized why the whole place was laughing at em etc, lol.

@FrankPerry - RE: Dancing Couple and Jerry Studio "Visions"

That is a great catch! Really, awesome job with this artwork!

Has anyone heard the Jerry Studio Box Set "All Good Things"? It looks like it is his studio albums, each with bonus tracks, plus a disc of outtakes, etc. I'd never even heard of it, but it also came with a bonus disc that has a 16-minute studio reading of "Visions of Johanna," which I'd never heard... it's really good! Here is a link if yer interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwRlcXflqrU

Man, I wish this would have been on my radar when it was released. Oh well - it's nice that we can still hear it thanks to the magic of the internet!

Peace

9-7-73 Eyes of the World

JEEZ! 19:01 of bliss. From like the 10-16 minute marks they are a pure jazz quintet.
I started with the bonus disc to go chronologically and the whole time I'm saying it's good but not monumental (a bit like Proudfoot) then the Eyes kicked in and it clicked for me.
Most of the Dick's and Dave's have that sublime moment in there somewhere that you know was the reason they picked that show. We all lived for that moment in the live performances and having only seen a dozen or so I can say they never disappointed. If we were lucky it was a whole set! Who else can even play an hour and a half non-stop and manage to smoothly transition songs they have seldom (or never before) jammed together with a different improvisation each time? (Just a rhetorical ? Phish fans)
Hope the 9-8 is as good as that Eyes.
Cheers!

Studio Visions and GarciaLive 16

That studio Visions is truly something to behold. It’s by far my favorite version of that tune, even though those 95 versions are poignant and emotional. The two 86 versions are nothing to scoff at either, it’s just that the other versions are way better. As for GarciaLive 16, I’m very excited. I’ve regularly been listening to the Ain’t No Bread in the Breadbox from that show(there’s video too), so I’m very excited. The cover art looks very nice also, a major change up from the previous 15. That’s my 2 cents

Geeking Out On Bonus Discs

This is a top notch show, I hope everyone who wanted it got it. Also, if you skipped the sub, you picked the wrong year not to sign up. This is the best bonus disc of the DaP series, and probably the best since Road Trips (remember those!) 4.3 with excerpts from 12.6.73, ya know, the one with the 58 minute Dark Star > Eyes. Non-stop rotation starts.....NOW

51 years ago today....

....The Warlocks played their first show. Too bad Jim's John Deere is in the shop currently.

Warlocks 1st show

Warlocks 1st show was back in 1965. that was 56 years ago today.

Oof!...

....i knew that. But still. Happy Anniversary!!

New release from Bear's Sonic Journals

Owsley foundation has a new release out, it is Tim Buckley from 1968 , from the Carousel Ballroom in S.F. Now, I couldn't tell you one thing about Tim Buckley, but if you are a Tim Buckley fan Im sure this would probably be something that would interest you.

Finally blasting this on the…

Finally blasting this on the home speakers. One of the greatest Truckin’ jams of all. Weather Report Suite had a great debut. Cool show.

As for recent other listening, June 9, 1990 is a surprising Phil tour de force. Incredible performance!

Owsley had grate taste....

....worth checking out.
Dan R. Joined since pretty much the start of dead.net. where you been?

Oroborous, Proudfoot, Weir

Orb - Funny story about the left handed monkey wrench, 6 foot shoreline and such - reminds me of the swimming pool on the roof in high school we used to send the Freshmen to. Glad your copy finally arrived.

Proudfoot- I'm really enjoying 9/8 a lot. As for your suggestion - l'll put it this way - I've been listening on over-the-ear noise cancelling headphones, and people five feet away are asking me to turn it down....so yeah, give it a whirl on 11 and see if that rocks your head.

I feel like a turncoat saying this, but the appeal to me is that they sound like a four-piece hard rock band because Keith is pretty much absent. Donna didn't sing nearly as much pre-hiatus, so she's also not on too many songs. It's Jerry loud in the left and Bobby loud in the right. Billy's in the middle with Phil, and Phil is lower than the rest - audible for sure, but lower. Jerry's having a great night, which is not unusual, but but Bobby is ripping it up like I've never heard him before. He's playing chords crazy fast, bending notes, picking more, and he even sounds like he's using more distortion than normal. He was known to pull out an SG once in a while, and its tone is thicker and muddier than the ES-335 that he used most of the time in '73 (or the ES-345 to a lesser extent, which sounds thicker than the 335 to me, but more mid-rangey than the SG). My Uncle had a 335 that my cousin played a bit while we were in our teens, and it has a much "stringier" sound than other guitars I've heard up close; he really had to turn the distortion all the way up to get it to sound like a hard rock instrument. It also has a lot more sustain than the SG, so I would think bending notes like Weir does on this 9/8 show would create a messier sound. I've never played an ES or learned how to get my fingers to move the strings with any dexterity, so I'm guessing on this point.

I couldn't find a list of shows or a date range when Bobby played the SG, but I think what has been so appealing to me about this show is what I said earlier in my babbling - they sound like a rocking quartet and Bobby may be running his pick over twice as many strings as most nights. I am almost positive he's not playing the ES, and whether by coincidence or whatever, he's way louder than normal as well. So I'm good with a night off from Keith for the uniqueness of this show. I haven't listened to the bonus disc yet, but have been into the main release about 5 times. Bonus Disc coming up next....

Hey Folks...

Go out and grab the "new" Dickie Betts "Official Bootleg Vol 1"...a two disc set taken from various shows recorded between 2003 - 2008... My fave is a killer instrumental "Franklin's Tower > Blue Skies"...the whole thing just shreds...

Phil Lesh And Friends...

...There And Back Again Bonus Disc.
Passenger (The Plant~Sausalito,California)
St. Stephen w/ Derek Trucks (2002-04-04 Denver,Colorado)
Dark Star w/ Derek Trucks (2001-12-31 Oakland,California)
The Eleven (2002-03-30 San Francisco,California)
~Phil Lesh, Warren Haynes, Jimmy Herring, Rob Barraco, John Molo

get some...
;O)

Disappointing shows

My reaction to releases I am disappointed in is to file them away and forget about them for a while. Then give them a spin at a later date. I can remember feeling like that about 4/2/73-Daves 21. Similarly accented towards shorter songs - which seems to reflect Dave's taste, incidentally - I was underwhelmed when I first heard it. Sounded great when I played it earlier this year, though.

5/6/70. Kresge Plaza. M.I.T

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wgv2-nQDuFE. The Dead put on a free show, in response to the Kent State shootings.

5/6/70

one of the FIRST cassettes I got back in 82

Hot stuff in response to a tragedy

First Run Through Thoughts

Listened to the first set last night and finished off with the second this morning. Saving all the 9/7/73 material for when I get the DaP 38 shirt so I can listen in style. Can definitely say even if this isn't the BEST show of '73, it certainly stands as a solid testament to the era. Favorites for me from yesterday were Bertha, MAMU, a spine chilling Sugaree, Tennessee Jed, the FIRST EVER WRS, and the sublime Eyes>China Doll. From the second set, GSET, Ramble on Rose, and a textbook '73 China>Rider fill the spot and to be totally honest the whole third disc from He's Gone all the way to OMSN are just fantastic. Again, even if this isn't the BEST, it's most certainly a classic show and one of the top picks I have in my limited Dave's Picks collection. Looking forward to the 9/7 filler + bonus disc!!!

Words fail me...

...honestly, after one listen of the whole enchilada (both shows)....this one seemed all over the place, sonically at least...
I need to Relisten....great shows but best of the year, NOT!

OTIS: sounds like you made out not getting the All Good Things until now. I got it originally but it didn’t have that Visions bonus disc. ...in all good time indeed.

VGUY: musta been that new math ; )

I say...

RELEASE 6/9/73 AND 6/10/73!!!

C'mon, man. I can't live forever.

Happy Birthday. Willie Mays

Happy 90th birthday to the greatest baseball player of alltime, #24 Willie Mays. I saw Willie play several times back in the 1960s. at Candelstick Park, I saw him hit a homerun in 1969. against the Houston Astros.

Dave’s 38 & ‘The Grateful Dead LP ‘Origins’ 1968

... a grateful day to everyone. I hope everyone is well & enjoying the latest Dave’s Pick#38 / 1973 performances! There’s a whole lot of ‘Primo’ stuff in this release like the audio quality which is Top notch! I give it “5” skull & Roses! Lol it’s that grateful. Every tune, turn, improvise, jamming, very strong performances! Song after song was being played with unity from the whole group. They seemed to all be tuned into ONEAnother & performed one fabulous take of a song one after another number! (Song)
The First WRS is a nice piece of the Grateful Dead “Holy Grail moments in history to have in your dead collection! concert/performances to be officially released in primo audio quality for my taste listening.
And as many already pointed out and stated the bonus disc is ‘primo’ undead! I have to concur with that statement! “It’s what dreams are made of Kid!!!”
Bravo to the good Ol Grateful Dead team, keep up the outstanding job of giving us DeadHead these precious jewels your dropping in the “Dave’s Picks Series! And in all the other GD releases, please keep them coming! Have a grateful day everyone, peace be with you all! Be safe be kind & don’t forget to smile smile smile!!! Ciao’ there’s a lot more to come !!! 🙏❤️😉💀❤️
🙏❤️💀🌹
** my record store had a couple of copies of the ‘origin’ vinyl from 1968 best recordings from bear! If anyone missed out on getting a copy shoot me a text , I’m always looking to help a fellow dead head! If I can. . Also they had the book/comic/ with all the extras included inside the sealed hard cover comic/Book for sale too.

All Good Things bonus disc

Oro, according to Wikipedia the bonus disc only came with pre-orders from jerrygarcia.com

Bonus

Oooopppss, guess we just missed out : (
Thanks Colin, sorry Otis.

BTK...Say Hey!!!

It's Willie Mays!!! Happy 90th Birthday to the Greatest I Ever Saw....I grew up at Dodger Stadium (Coliseum too) and was so fortunate to see the Holy Three...Wiilie Mays, Roberto Clemente & Hank Aaron...Willie though was The Godfather of Center Field...

Anybody have hdcd light not…

Anybody have hdcd light not stay ,but for a few seconds,then bbn it turns off. Thanks. On bonus disc I should add.

You always remember your first

my first batch of recorded GD:
5/6/70
9/18/74
a cassette with one side 9/16/78, other side 12/19/78
uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

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