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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 12, 2021 - 7:13am

#281

alvarhanso

Joined:
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Who Summer '72 boots, Miami '74, etc.

I have several liberated bootlegs of The Who in Summer '72, of course not clean SBDs like we have with the Dead stuff, but most are quite listenable. (A variable term for sure, depends on one's experience listening to hissy audience tapes, but there are definitely decent ones to be found.) And I like collecting them to get those sort of tunes that they played with Moon for very brief periods. Who boots will vary from awful to great, you just gotta poke around.

If I had a Mt Rushmore of Dead shows, 6/23/74 just about makes it on mine. Maybe not the best show from the Wall of Sound era, but to my ears, it is by far the best sounding tape of that era. Jerry's picks are all a little odder than usual, but all are perfectly chosen. The Ship of Fools (and it's intro Jam) is a fantastic way to get back from the weirdness of Seastones. And that Dark Star> Spanish Jam> US Blues is just magnificent.

And to the post about the actual Mt Rushmore and FDR over Teddy: we wouldn't have had any sort of President like FDR without TR. We'd likely still be a smallish country with no great impact on the world without Teddy. Similarly, one could say the same of Cornell or Veneta or 2/14/70, because for a lot of people the tapes of legendary shows introduced them to the wonderful music and led to the discovery of the bounties awaiting the collector of more tapes. Those shows may not endure as favorites, but they are still signposts to a new space, to steal a title from a Jerry interview/book. And if I were to switch out a face on Mt Rushmore, it would def be Jefferson for Madison. (In keeping with ones who had served by the end of construction.)

If I have to choose 4:
11/8/70 (so wish there was a SBD of this one)
5/7/72 (just bc Dark Star & The Other One)
6/23/74
5/8/77 (my George Washington, where it started for me)
July 12, 2021 - 2:16am

#282

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
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I've always had an eye for the oddities in life.....

Yo! Rockers!!

“We’re tuning up a little bit for you folks, make it sound better cuz nothing’s too good for you………”

12/2/71, it's a bit of an oddity. One of only two 71 shows with both Brokedown Palace and Black Peter. The only 71 show with both a Smokestack Lightning and a Lovelight. And unusual for 71 in that it didn't have a Truckin', Good Lovin', The Other One, or Dark Star........

Back in the very early years of my crazy tape trading daze this was one of the first “local Dead show recordings” I had, so it has a special place in my Grateful Dead heart of hearts. It never seemed like the greatest Dead show ever, yet I still treasured it then---AND now.

Think I'll listen to it on my way to work.......

Rock on, my friends!

Doc
Odd how the creative power at once brings the whole universe to order......
July 11, 2021 - 10:24pm

#283

Vguy72

Joined:
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I went with the '74 Miami show.....

....you know. The one with the best segue from Dark Star into US Blues I have ever heard.
Majestic....
I learned to duck
July 11, 2021 - 8:53pm

#284

KeithFan2112

Joined:
August 6, 2014

72 Who and 12/2/71 Dead

Gratefulgerd - I looked up the set list for your 8/11/72 Who show. That must have been incredible - I would love to hear Relay and Long Live Rock with the gang in their live prime. Those two songs were freshly written at the time, and then quickly dropped from the set list. I doubt any relreasable tapes exist of the '72 tour you saw, but I found a decent YouTube show from later in the month with the same set list. Good stuff.

Proudfoot - I checked out your 12/2/71 recommendation. Some hot spots in there. I like those late '71 Smokestack Lightnings with Keith in the mix. The piano suits that song. Brokedown Palace is nice - they nail the vocals at the end, which is always the icing on the cake. Also like this UJB. Solid version and Phil really nails the backing vocal on the "crow told me" verse. He used to sing some cool parts in those early days.

Also checking out other December 1971 shows after Doc's 12/14 recommendation. Currently listening to DaP 22 at the Felt 12/7. After Tennessee Jed someone in the crowd hollers out "St. Fucking Stephen!" and Jerry impatiently responds with "Aw, Fuck your own St. Stephen!" So glad they leave the stage banter in these releases. These guys sounded like they had a LOT of fun at work. What a way to spend your life.
July 11, 2021 - 12:49pm

#285

proudfoot

Joined:
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12 2 71

:)))
July 11, 2021 - 11:14am

#286

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Dicks 23 and 36

Keithfan - yes, thanks, I'll bear your comments in mind next time I listen. I will try the two El Paso's, and look out for the contrast.
I should say that my immersion in Dicks 36-9/21/72 - has been stimulated by its release on vinyl, and that's the version I listen to now. It sounds amazing to my battle worn ears-but I haven't compared it to the cd version. Price it cost, I'm a bit scared to!
July 10, 2021 - 5:20pm

#287

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Daverock

Hi Daverock. Yeah, that was a tough choice, DP 23 over DP 36. They have very similar set lists. If I had to choose between one or the other to bring as the only Dead CD to the desert island with the coconut rum and bikini women, I would go with DP 36, based on the Dark Star, Wharf Rat, and Morning Dew. I'm not sure which Bird Song I prefer; maybe I'll put that to the test later. But anyway,
I like the performances and the recording of DP 23 more. Jerry is consistently loud throughout DP 23. On DP 36 he's certainly not low, but he tends to get washed out a bit when the whole band is playing and he's not swinging away at chords. You can hear what I mean for example with El Paso. If you compare the first minute of DP 23 to DP 36, you can hear Jerry loud and clear on 23 when he's doing all of that cool picking; meanwhile he gets buried by the band on 36. I also hear more flashes of brilliant playing from Jerry on 23. Another thing about DP 23 is the backing vocals sound better to me in a lot of places, like they're "blended" together more evenly. And then there's the monster 40 minute Other One - lots of great jamming here, and they almost jam out The Eleven at one point (Jerry starts it but nobody hops onboard).
July 10, 2021 - 2:44pm

#288

BigDeadFan

Joined:
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anybody home?
5 day sale…

anybody home?

5 day sale sign is still on web after a week?

no box set announcement? No dave's picks announcement?

is anyone there?
July 10, 2021 - 2:20pm

#289

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Heavy Metal

Did it, done it, occasionally revisit for nostalgia. I worked at the movie theater when Heavy Metal came out. Never watched the whole thing thru but saw all of the scenes in pieces. I have the Movie recorded on my DVR. Maybe today will be the day I revisit it. May try to watch twice before I erase it. If memory serves there were some other rock bands I uncertainly wouldn't call heavy metal. Let's see, Journey and Donald Fagan and others on there should never been associated with heavy metal.

So I started thinking about it. I had written the first paragraph about 5 hours ago. Thinking about metal and some concerts I saw, when I started thinking about Judas Priest. I remember wow it was 1981 when I first saw them. Then it hit me that it was in summer July or August. I have the ticket but chose not to go digging through stuff. I check and 40 years ago right now, this music freak was preparing to go see Judas Priest, with Whitesnake opening and then Iron Maiden, at the Fox theater in Atlanta. Drove into town and heard the concert announcement on the rock radio station the night before. During afternoon next day went down the Fox Box Office and scored tics. Went back to room to chill out. Headed down to the show. All three of the bands were completely known to us. I had copies of British Steele and Point of Entry by Priest. I also had Iron Maiden Killers, and this was on the Killers tour, as well as their first album. Hard to believe 40 years went by like that. It was a true heavy metal concert. Well Whitesnake at this point was a heavier blues unit in the Zep and Purple line of hard rock. But damn did both Maiden and Priest drive that place hard. BTW, Maiden was the original maiden before Dickinson and the second drummer.

Any way within 12 months I was clearly leaving metal behind and casting my gaze elsewhere.
July 10, 2021 - 1:18pm

#290

gratefulgerd

Joined:
June 7, 2007

The Who

saw them in Frankfurt, August 11, 1972.
Wow, the loudest band I've ever heard in concert, indoor Festhalle Frankfurt.
I mean extreme loud!!!!
My biggest mistake in '72: I could've seen the Dead in April, 26, Jahrhunderthalle.
But I didn't. Why?
Too young and to far away from what was really going on in the international music scene.
Simply said, I didn't know GD.
On May 2nd in 1972 I saw John Mayall, at the same location, Jahrhunderthalle Frankfurt.
Great show, wouldn't mind to trade it for a show a week earlier.
Life happens

John Perry Barlow

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Bonus Disk

This bonus disk is incredible. The HCS and the LiG>Stella are great, but the Truckin>Drums>TOO>Eyes>Sugar Mags is simply the best. This is probably my favorite Eyes after my listen, with 6/9/76 and 6/17/91 close behind. Its very tight and the jams sparkle. The jam hints at Slipknot! and has an incredible breakdown at around 9 minutes in. Everyone just stops for a few seconds to let Jerry build on the jam. Very good very good
Also, the thing on the bottom right hand corner of the bonus disk art looks a lot like the Wolf(as in the one on Jerry’s guitar). The shape of it mimics the original design, and this show was the guitar’s debut. That’s what I think anyway

konabud hdcd

I did a bunch of reading about HDCD earlier this year while considering new (used) CD players for my system. I can't find it now but on one of the audio "science" type boards there was a great post about HDCD where a guy had messaged Jeff Norman about it. He got a great response where Mr Norman basically said that the HDCD light will come on if they used the Pacific Microsonics software while working on the tracks but he didn't always use the actual db boost because he often didn't like the sound. So basically, the light coming on might mean expanded sonics or it might not. :0) I still don't have a copy of the release but I'll try it on three HDCD compatible players when it arrives and let you know what happens on mine. Cheers

Arrived Today

I arrived this morning after a visit with relatives and found the mailman stuffed a package in so tightly it bent up my DaP38 case! Come on man!

I think I'm with the camp that finds this one special. I just finished the bonus CD. I agree with you Daverock. I always thought Dave leaned towards shorter songs. Short for the Grateful Dead. He seems to like a good 2nd set jam as much as the next Dead head but he also seems to in the Dave's Picks series go for less super long Dark Stars and Other Ones. Not that he does not release them but there are lots of either or shows where he seems to hold off the big ones. He seemed to release more longer ones in Dicks Picks after Dick passed and in Road Trips like that huge Dark Star Burnsey talked about. Dave's 30 seems like a rare exception where the 30 min DS and 2 The Other Ones are the best the best part of the release. I liked this one through and through anyway. I agree Keith is mysteriously gone but returns for the bonus CD. Keithfan look at the CD package gatefold pics.

Container store

I store all my Daps individually into quart size freezer zip lock bags and placed inside the container store clear rectangular storage boxes which seem like it was created for Daps. They hold 14 Daps perfectly and they are stackable. I am kind of a neat freak. It also looks cool. Just a tip for neat freaks looking to store Daps w/o worrying about smoke and moisture. They are only $6 or $7 each.

All Good Things bonus discs

My copy of "All Good Things: Jerry Garcia studio sessions" came with not one but two bonus discs.

The first bonus disc, which has already been mentioned here, is “All good things redux: Jerry Garcia studio sessions” which has 4 tracks, namely 2 tracks from the “Garcia (Compliments)” sessions: "I saw her standing there" and "Russian lullaby"; 1 studio jam from “Reflections” sessions: "T.L.E.O. jam" and 1 track recorded in 1982: "Visions of Johanna"

The second bonus disc is a “Pure Jerry” sampler with 3 tracks from the (then) forthcoming Jerry Garcia Band “Pure Jerry” series release “Theatre 1839, July 29 & 30, 1977” which are "Mystery train", "Gomorrah" and "My sisters and brothers"

All this (including artwork) can be found at:

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/All_Good_Things.htm

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/All_Good_Things_Redux.htm

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Pure_Jerry_Theatre_1839_Sampler.htm

TGIF

morning rockers. wait that's Doc's line. Doc did they not play at the beginning of in May '71? your April reviews were a treat.

Carlo - you're almost not going to believe this but that's exactly how I store my Dave's Picks boxes. I keep the actual CDs in those white paper slipcovers though, not in the actual case itself. and of the white slipcovered discs go neatly into 30 Trips boxes. I used to keep everything on display in my family room on the shelves, but I ended up taking up both rows in the entertainment center, and then I had to move stuff for Christmas decorations every year. anyway the coincidence is uncanny because I use both the ziploc bags and the sturdy plastic containers.

Dark-Star I almost wish you hadn't pointed that out. I was in such a rush to rip the CDs and put them on my phone that I didn't even look at the pictures and completely forgot about the booklet. I spent about an hour listening to different versions of Sugaree to compare Bobby's guitar sound to 9/8, but there's worse things right? so I guess it's official - he pulled out the Gibson SG that night. I listen to so much live Who from the Tommy era that I can pick that guitar out of a crowd pretty well. Townshend stopped using them by '71, not sure why. I guess developing his sound.

Every note played on Dave's and Dick's

Go back and listen to Dick's 1. Listen to Playin' in the band.....Notice how some of Phil's playing has been edited out, at his request.
Also if you have the 5 cd box set, with a different era on each disc, listen to disc 5. The So Many Roads is missing, one of Jerry's solos. Just look at the track timing, compared to others on Archive.org. Its a couple minutes short. They have also used patches, to complete songs, that have been damaged, one way or another. I think Uncle Johns Band from 5/2/70 is a different source.
If you are looking for live Led Zeppelin, check out Guitars101.com/forums/lossless-audio-bootlegs. 145/.
Enjoy

LEDDED see below

.......

2021 BOX SET - TODAY IS THE DAY, GIVE US THE NEWS ALREADY!!!!

How long are they gonna wait before they tell us release details for the 2021 Box Set?!?!? BRING IT THE F ON ALREADY!!! Last year they announced that 1976 thing in Febewary.

RCMH/WARFIELD 1980 - BRING IT ITS TIME!!!!.....and no this should not be acoustic repeats, they've already put out all the acoustic material from 1980 that needs to be released

RV3 for president

:)))

Jaydoublu - Dick's Picks 1

You claim that on Dick's Picks Volume 1 some of Phil's bass on Plying in the band has been edited out at his request. Whilst I am not an expert in audio technology, I am fairly certain that editing possibilities are extremely limited when it comes to 2 track source tapes such as were used for Dick's Picks Volume 1 As far as I know, altering the level of an individual instrument or editing it out altogether is just not possible. What are you comparing it to? Other sources, such as audience recordings will naturally have different levels for the instruments compared to a soundboard mix and will therefore sound different.

Yeah, wondering...

...the same thing? How they would of removed Bass of all things from a 2 track recording?

And now for something completely different

I just stumbled upon this, featuring a few of Jerry’s former bluegrass padres, as well as the late, great Clarence White.

https://www.amazon.com/Muleskinner-Live/dp/B08WP99LMY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dc…

re: Wondering

'bout dat bass...

A logical conclusion might be that the original 2 track recording just didn't have a whole lotta Phil Punch, thus it's duplicate in our hands lacks it as well.
Just speculatin'. Otherwise, I know very little, if anything, and I'm still happy! And not a Robot!

Sixtus

Great!

A conspiracy theory all of our own.

Just being a Dickhead

Having started re-reading some of Philip K. Dick's novels a few weeks ago, I am not sure any of us can claim, with 100% certitude, that we are not robots.

Perhaps...

We are not men, we are Devo?

Bonus Disc

Has anyone else noticed only tracks 1 and 8 on the bonus disc are HDCD? The other six are missing the HDCD layer and are 16 bit. Is this a production error? An inquiring mind wants to know......

All about the bass

JD, do mean to say they edited a section of PITB out because Phil didn't like his playing for a min or two?

KF, Mick Taylor and Angus Young play the SG as well. Taylor also plays the Les Paul a lot. Where do you think the Wolf falls?

I forget who wrote best Eyes of the World ever on 9/7. I have to listen again. There are so many good ones I think I missed something outstanding on this one.

I think it's time for a 1969 box set. Fall and Winter. DP 16 is a favorite from that period. The sets were beginning to include more variety.

52 years ago today....

The Dead played a free concert in Golden Gate Park, they played Good Lovin for the first time and Garcia sang lead vocals on it.

Hot shows!

Happy Friday,

I finished up my first full round of listening to this release this morning. It is a great one for sure. I hear the band playing with intensity.

After 1 listen, the bonus disc is the highlight for me. Other one jam >Eyes is off the charts. Super intensity. I thought the intro to the Other one was unique and great. Dave was not exaggerating. That disc is top shelf in the whole series.

I listened to all this on my home system - decent amp and good speakers. I have to say I thought the sound quality on the 9/8 show as a little rough, compared with other Dave's picks. The mix felt harsh to me, particularly the first set. The third disc less so. Maybe it was recorded "hot" with high levels coming in?? That's how it sounded to me. I heard a noticeable change in sound quality in the 9/7 show, more what I'm used to.

I will be listening to this one a lot more in the coming days. Have a good weekend everybody! Turn it up!

a wish for the weekend

some uninterrupted time to "get" this show.

with visiting family and Mother's Day in store, I think I might need to wait a bit longer

Estimating Prof

Spot on. I posted the same thing about the sound quality a week or so ago. Great show, but the overall sound is sub-par to DaP5 (UCLA) and Road Trips 4 volume 3 (Denver).

Happy 75 Birthday Bill The Drummer!....

....keep beating it on down the line.

Bonus Disc: The Other One Jam

Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

Jerry's little guitar melody to end it sounds similar to the end of Rain Song.

bonus disc t

The pressing isn't exactly perfect, but I see it's designed that way (based on the photo in the store.) I was going to complain a bit, but I notice it's designed that way. Maybe this helps anyone wondering about it. A reminder to always give it a few moments. :-)

DaP 38 First Listen

I have to preface this with.. this just happened, and it really did happen. but there's a bit of a story here...

So having a less than productive end to the week is enough to piss off anyone.. plus it's been raining non stop for days, the rivers are swollen and no outdoor adventures of any kind for almost a week. So after a pretty shitty day dealing with a yet unsolved plumbing fiasco (any plumbers in the house, please PM me) I got fed up and decided to do a little solo kayak/bike adventure. I basically needed to get out, just me.

The rivers here are pretty pumped.. and I had a great but really freaking cold day. I guess I under dressed and it rained a bunch. Temps in the mid to lower 40's and windy. Anyway.. upon my return.. no wife, the teenage boy unfed and it's getting on 8.. so, still in my wet clothes, I hadn't changed yet,.. I cobble together some dinner and then head out to soak in the hot tub and resume my first listen to the new Dave's Picks. No wife, kid fed.. oh, I was a little stoned and had both a lower cal IPA and a small glass of single malt scotch, because.. well.. cold kayaking and biking your way upstream to get your truck in the rain early in the season when you are not fully in shape (well in shitty shape but you did it anyway) deserves a reward.

Anyway.. to the point. I started where I left off yesterday.. at Row Jimmy.. sublime, great slide leads and the tone and subtle changes were simply amazing. Totally isolated comfortable and finally warm.. listening with good headphones, I get back to my virgin listen. That Weather Report Suite grabs me, really incredible what Jerry pulls out of the wolf, totally focused and a big wake up from a little shaking start to the first set. Eyes starts and just towards the end of the jam before China Doll.. so at about 9:25 PM on the far western boarder of MD on the boarder with WV, I see the lights of a plane just enter my fiend of vision. Then quickly I notice another moving in sequence. Then I look and there is a tight packed series of 'planes' moving in unison in an almost perfect straight line. It is starting to fill up the entire line of sight and they are flying so close together and at exactly the same speed at exactly the same direction.. so I decide to count them.. one, two, three.... soon there is a line that fills up most of the horizon @ approx 10k feet. I believe my count was accurate, there were sixty, flying in amazingly close proximity flying at exactly the same speed.. there was no individual variances these objects were hauling ass and moving in an almost eastly pattern, or East, South East.. East.. East. Living almost equidistant from Pittsburgh and Baltimore/DC. Then the weird part.. no air traffic for a noticeable amount of time, a few minutes before I see the next plane to get some perspective on their altitude. The first commercial jet that flew by after this happened seemed to about twice as high in the sky, so call it 26k feet give or take, then the line of planes would have been somewhere between 10k and 15k in elevation but going much too fast for helicopter drones.

Then they were gone. I have never seen anything like this, probably some military drill or something. Still freaky and wild and a great thing to see just after that amazing Weather Report Suite. Utterly amazing.

Jim....

....this is what you saw. I missed the event here, but yeah. You didn't. Awesome dude.
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/valley-residents-report-seeing…

Yes. This is it, sort of..

but here, where there are few lights, not much ambient light in the sky.. they were much brighter and seemed to be moving both faster and closer together. I thought it important to count the number, there were exactly 60 speedballing across the night sky. In what seemed to be an airspace cleared of other aircraft. They were hauling ass and flying really amazing close together. It was really an amazing sight to see, and in a perfect mood enhanced frame of mind after having a bit of an adventure. I have never seen anything like it before... The amount of computing necessary to pull this off.. well, it would take several Commodore 64's strung closely together in a daisy chain or a really new smart phone. Totally kick ass.

And.. to keep this all related to the Grateful Dead (as it always seems to be) occurred during a monumental part of my first listen to the new release.

Edit: They were in fact 60 Starlink Satellites launched by SpaceX in Florida Tuesday finding their orbits. Wild.

Keith f

Great minds think alike.

What Jim saw...

What was it that Jim saw? I am curious to know but the 8newsnow link that Vguy posted doesn't work in the European Economic Area due to privacy problems so I can't read that. Damn this sort of first world problem. If David L had seen it I would guess that it was a line of geese flying east (?) for the summer. I wanna know!

Sky pollution

It was space x starlink. Unless they can get approved for a higher orbit its "cool" but not cool. Personally I dont want orbiting satellites that obvious in the night sky and from how many countries can we expect these in the future? For me, this is could be the beginning of the end of the beauty of local space. Really sad potentially... but its progress?

Exile.....

Yes...Phil had some of his issues with some of his notes, and they were removed from the Playin' on Dick's picks 1...Google Dave's or Dicks picks overdubs....

Light in the Sky

There's always something magical about seeing lights in the sky at night. But I would tend to agree, the less air pollution and the avoidable air travel that causes it, the better.

Night Lights

I can't even imagine how much single malt would have gone down the hatch if there had been 38 lights in the sky instead of 60 and then a bonus light a minute later....or how quickly a locksmith would have preempted the plumber.

Commodore 64s were tight!

It's finally my turn. First…

It's finally my turn. First time I received a damaged disc and need a replacement. Other than sending the obligatory email to customer service as instructed, is there anything I can do to help speed up the process? thanks!

Recommendations from the Dead

Every once in a while I revisit this Latvala note page:

http://www.agitators.com/gd/

This is what Dick said about our current release:

[Latvala].....right away 9/8/73
sticks out begging for attention. Even the night before (9/7/73)
had fairly thrilling versions of TLEO, Jack Straw, PITB, WRS-
>Let it Grow.There is not a weak moment from "Truckin' "
through the ending tune "Sugar Magnolia". Even as good as this
night must sound, the following night things really explode. I
really can't put my finger on it because from the songlist, there is
nothing apparently compelling. Well, you guys will soon find out
what I mean, since I intend to release this one whenever the time
is right.....

For my part, someone mentioned that Jerry started playing the Wolf on this show. I'm not sure about August (did they play after his birthday?), but I read his last show with a Strat was 8/1. Just wondering what he played in between, and of course I can't find that guitar link I posted a while back. But what I'm getting at is I think when Dick said he couldn't put a finger on what was great about this show, maybe he was hearing the rocked out sound we're hearing from Jerry and Bobby both picking up louder guitars (and Ramrod tripping over Keith's feed to the soundboard)......heh, well that's what I'm hearing.

Daverock - maybe this will shine a light on DaP 21 for you:

[Latvala].....4/2/73- Boston is one of the best, as are versions of "Greatest
Story Ever Told", "Big River", "China Cat->Rider" and "Playing
in the Band". But the highlight has to be the JAM segment
following "Here Comes Sunshine"......

I noticed Dick didn't mention Bird Song. Hmmmm. I become government conspiracy-theory suspicious of Deadheads who gloss over '72/'73 Bird Songs. Like how is this only the 2nd 1973 Bird Song to be released? And the first only came recently with the PNW box set. Suspicious as night lights. 🧐

snapperjoe: I rarely have issues to speak of, and when I do it's invariably a postal issue. When the email customer support folks are busy processing replacements for others having postal issues (underwater CD cases, postal workers crushing the package, etc), I wait a week for an email reply. If they are that tied up I will PM marye. She is a site admin who diligently watches the message boards, I think because she's a DeadHead herself and enjoys the banter; but she also helps facilitate communication with the good Dr Rhino, who sends replacement CDs as needed.

Starlink

SpaceX and Elon Muskrat have a lot to answer for with their low orbit space junk pollution. Why do we need 1500 beer cans flying around the planet disrupting the view of observatory telescopes and more. Isn't there already enough crap flying around up there without this?

Starlink/SpaceX/Dark Star/Weather Report Suite

Doesn't space impact weather, it must somehow.... so Looking up the sky at the conclusion of the first ever performance of Weather Report Suite and seeing a looked like an organized alien takeover of earth seemed appropriate for the setting. Man.. Jerry was on fire.. bending notes with reckless precision, simply an amazing version. I have listened to this show before but did not get out of it what I got last night. You can tell he is taking the Wolf out for a test drive and seeing what he can do. Treating his guitar like an alchemist works his brew. I guess I could say there was a Dark Star in this release after all, and it was spectacular. I can't wait to finish this show and hit the bonus disc today.

Interesting discussion about space craft vs. space trash. I can see good and bad from a move like this.. but I am hesitant to think putting our internet infrastructure in space is a good idea. We do need this discussion. Additionally, if stuff up there starts crashing into each other things we take for granted and rely on might become problematic.

Space junk vs space junk

Hopefully the Chinese rocket will take out Musk’s beer can mobile art.

Musk is supposed to be on SNL tonight. I suspect that the Weekend Update will address the issue?

Snapperjones

I was skeptical about the form but I had email from them in less than 24hrs and they shipped my replacement in a couple days time.

King of the Delta Blues

If no-one else is going to mention it, I think I should point out that today would have been Robert Johnson's 110th birthday.

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1973

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2 15
3 21
3 16
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7 1
8 1
12 18

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Robert Johnson. Last Fair Deal Going Down

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHv0wU8Rnyg Robert Johnson, on my Mt . Rushmore of pre war blues artists, along with Son House, Big Bill Broozy, and Blind Lemon Jefferson. My post war blues Mt. Rushmore would have, T Bone Walker, Muddy Waters, B.B. King, and Paul Butterfield's original blues band with Mike Bloomfield.

Dead Shrimps blues

@Daverock & Billy the Kid
This song really means the blues; Happy Birthday Mr Johnson. I recently revisited Peter Green Splinter group with a lot of R Johnson'songs. The sessions for Robert J by Clapton is exeptional (cd+ dvd).
DP38 is expected in Europe soon. Stay safe everybody.

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I would fire rounds....

....but damn. Ammo is expensive.

To be fair

When my singles mailer arrived empty a month ago, I e-mailed GD customer service, they responded immediately, and a week later I had a replacement in my mailbox.

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