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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • Vguy72
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    Mama told me life is like a box of chocolates....

    ....but $350?!? C'mon Mama!

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    DaP #38 is here!

    Hey now my friends and freaks! DaP #38 was waiting for me in my my mailbox when I got home last night. And it's number 1780. I don't think I've ever gotten a lower number since I've been subscribing to the series. There is truly no rhyme or reason to the way the releases are allocated and I don't really care about that. It's all about the music and the memories!

    Anyway, I'm downloading it now so I can listen to it today at work. What I've heard in the Listening Party and on Dave's SiriusXM special is awesome. This might have been a show I attended. The 60s and 70s are such a blur but I got to a ton of shows in the NYC/Philly area back in the day. Nassau was one of the venues I saw lots of shows at.

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    Define "wee bit of time" for me. The release date is now 3 days gone. My shipment hit my local Post Office a week ago. They have flat out told me they have no clue where the package is. I got email yesterday from Dead.net customer service asking for my info so they could look into it. Hopeful there at least.
    Is this mail innovations thing just about the $? This must be the 4th or 5th DP I waited for long after the tracking showed a transfer to the PO. A couple made it. I'm pretty sure I had to have help from Mary on this forum to get a couple of them replaced. I'll pay extra money for UPS or Fed Ex. PLEASE anyone who has influence suggest this option. Put a big handling fee on there so you can do more free shipping to people who need it.
    When the announcement of DP 38 on sale hit my inbox I ordered a copy just in case I never see my replacement order. I'd be out the bonus disc but surely could find that music somewhere.
    If dead.net makes this right so I get the subscription order I will give the other copy to someone on here who missed out. I'll even pay shipping because I'll be so happy to get my proper copy.

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    Interesting comments on Daves 38, which I haven't heard yet. Bob's apparent presence seems to echo a discussion from last week concerning lead and rhythm guitar. Maybe its a bit misleading to regard a guitarist who favours a chordal approach as rhythm and someone who plays single lines as lead. I vaguely remember reading an interview with Jerry somewhere, in which he said that many times he followed rather than led, when he was playing. But because he was (usually) louder, it seemed as though he was the one doing the leading. To be sure, he often would have been-but not always.

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    actually i think jerry is in left channel to simulate his location from the perspective of an audience member in 73, bob is certainly loud but i think there is plenty of jerry, i really like the mixes with guitars on either side, sometimes the recordists (or mixers for multitrack) put bob and keith on either side with jerry in the middle which also makes sense in a way, bob's sound in here comes sunshine is extra...

    i will echo earlier comments about the rarity of keith on a hammond sounding organ, did they just have one at nassau and decided to give it a try? also i def thought it sounded like miracle at one point in the truckin jam, not too surprising for a driving E blues jam

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    https://www.vosgeschocolate.com/collections/grateful-dead-x-vosges?gcli…

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    I'm absolutely loving DaP 38. It doesn't get much better than '73 Dead. Mine arrived yesterday, just days after the official release, and glory glory hallejuah, all the discs actually play! I've only had time to listen to discs 1 and 2, and they're as great as others have said. This is right in my sweet spot, a 10 out of 10, AFAIC.

    I'll probably write more about the music at some point, but for now I just want to mention a couple things about the audio: one is that this is indeed one of the few shows where Bob's guitar is as loud or louder than Jerry's in the mix. In some ways, this is great, and I didn't really mind having the chance to really savor Bob's amazing, ridiculously under-rated guitar playing. BUT for anyone who's interested, I did notice that you can adjust this to a significant degree but adjusting the balance between your stereo channels. Bob's in the left channel, Jer in the right, and for me, putting the "balance" nob at about 1 o'clock brought Jerry up a little and, I thought, improved the stereo image.

    Also, as some others have noticed, there is some weirdness is the extreme low frequencies at a couple points, and I could see how it could sound like a defect on some systems, but to my ears it sounded like something Phil was doing intentionally: not a classic Phil Bomb, but more like maybe his amp was distorting just a little at peak passages and he decided to just go with it and try to make something out of it? You now Phil. Remember that scene in the Grateful Dead Movie, where his bass starts making weird sounds as the guy holds the move camera near it, and instead of getting annoyed or freaking out, Phil tells him to keep doing it, and he immediately starts twisting nobs on his amp just to see what weird noises he can get? Love that guy.

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    I thought it was the top of a cats head. After the crow, the china cat. Ears don't look right for a wolf?.?

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    I saw an article recently about the woman/girl in the iconic photo. That photo really f'd up her life. She was identified, and people spewed hate on her. Sickening.

    She was apparently a 14 year old runaway when the pic was taken.

    America, you wonderful, digusting, admirable, foul entity...

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    Thank you! Smacking myself on the forehead wondering how I missed that. :-)

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I'm listening to 5/13/72 and the Hurts Me Too is particularly good. Jerry has some great solos in there.

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Dave's Picks 12. A fine little show if you ask me. Give it some love, Dave.. The Jones Brothers Band..

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? ok, sure, whatever.. have fun.

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D&C chose not to come to Vegas because they figured that you would be to tired to see them after all those Phish shows.

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Good call Jimbo. DaP 12 is the first Dave's Picks that I didn't have to buy off of eBay :D

Shows vs releases gets a litttle dicey, but I think of DaP 12 as one show in my head, even though all of Disc Three is from Seneca. Daverock I highly recommend it - this thing's a powerhouse, especially if you gloss over Roses and Sunrise. Stella Blue has this ethereal intro like nothing I've heard.

A fine show indeed. The only misstep is that it should have been the 13th release. Colgate folks will know why. A very interesting backstory on how the concert came about if you haven’t already read it.

Our daughter will be attending that fine institution in the fall. A tough grab for a college with an already low acceptance rate in a year when applications for admission more than doubled. I played 11/4/77 for a week straight after we got the news. It felt like scoring NYE tickets back in the day.

She could not be happier and we could not be more proud. I’ve already told her that I will be wearing my DaP 12 T-shirt on drop off day. She’s less than thrilled about that.

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....congratulations! I also own a Dave's 12 tee. I don't bust it out too much anymore because signs of wear are appearing. Besides! I got my Dave's 38 shirt today. Going into rotation. Dave's 12 tee is sized a little small, but this new shirt is like a glove.

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First.. a huge congrats, AJ. A huge win.

Second.. I bought two Colgate T's.. one I have worn and one I will wear when this one wears out. I get nonstop shit for the CD's and T Shirts I buy. I don't get it.. if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad (not to be played in front of a heroin junkie crowd)..

Anyway.. a huge congratulations are in order and an even bigger one when she graduates. Great news.

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Thank you both. Downstairs listening to the show again right now. One of my favorite versions of BEW and Let It Grow.

I love that T-Shirt and get comments on it all the time. I purchased two as well and the size does run small. The Large barley fits me.

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Those that did -thanks for highlighting this show - obviously it got lost in the shuffle a bit with me. I'll check it out again soon. With 1977, I start each year playing available shows, but I rarely get passed June - maybe September.
I should also say that some Daves Picks, post 1974, late Keith shows, do appeal - 2/26/77, 5/25/77 and 1/22/78 come to mind. One of the April 78 shows is pretty good, too,

I'm not really into the "rock n' roll hall of fame" or whatever its called. Maybe the best rock n 'roll band I saw in the 80s and 90s were The Cramps -clearly in a different orbit from award type bands. Similarly Hawkwind in the 70s.
I always liked the quote by Memphis musician Jim Dickinson -
" The best songs don't get recorded, the best recordings don't get released and the best releases don't get played." If you win an award - at anything - you are clearly doing something wrong.

And coincidentally, since typing the above, I have received an email to tell me that the North Mississippi Allstars, featuring Jim Dickinson's sons, have their 2020 show in London, of which I have a ticket, rescheduled to June 2022. Worth staying alive for.

Every time I read that name I flash back to an old toothpaste commercial

Colgate flouride MFP
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and it tastes great naturally

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As always, thank you for the awesome service of getting us heads those cover art scans.

Looking at them all together...

Best cover art - Volume 26 - Albq. 11/17/71
Worst - Volume 4 - W&M 9/24/76

Love to hear your thoughts!

Peace

Edit: Other tops: Vols. 8, 10, 20, and 27 - Other bottoms: 4, 13, 17, 21, 22 - Best Bonus - 2018 (along w/ my favorite cover) - Worst Bonus - 2015 (Sorry, I made a whole list and I couldn't resist...)

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The best is a tough one, and my choice is a dead heat (pun intended) between Vol 31 - Chicago, and Vol 32 - Philly.
It’s hard to pick a “worst”, because these artists really are masters, but I’d say maybe Vol 13, Winterland.
Bonus Discs - Best was 2018, the worst was 2015.

...beards on Skeletons. That's my only complaint. On the bright side.. at least we didn't get any skeletal under arm hair or hair down there.

In all honesty I liked McDougall but he's long gone. More on the Road Trips and E72 than the Dave's Picks. I liked the Dave's Picks 10 guy too, wasn't that Tony Millionaire?? Colors are good in some of the later ones. Ok.. you can dist the cover art for DaP 13, but the quality of the show underneath should be enough to absolve the skeletal skaters..

It must be happy hour somewhere.. time to catch up.

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And us

I would love to have it for summer break

But probably for return to school in the fall

Cest la vie

6 18 74 plays currently

Eyes of the World

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I like the DaP 13 cover, but not really any of the others by that artist. Also like Tony Millionaire covers DaP 9 - 12 are all great. He also did the Grateful Dead ship in the ocean, which I think was an RSD cover.

Favorite might be DaP 1. Great colors, great show, and great tie-in to historical date of the show. DaP 10 might be my favorite too - love the Alligator and those colors. Oh, and Close Encounters with the Grateful Dead. Dave's Picks 23!

Least favorite...hmm. Maybe 14, 15 or the bicycle one.

AJS - congrats on your daughter's acceptance - great stuff. What is the significance of 13 with that show?

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....partial to Truman's, but I enjoyed Tim's work in comics long before Dead releases.
Does the July '78 box count? Because that one is the bestest.
Sigh.....reminded me of the Arrowhead show. Going in.

I been thinkin bout that box too

I gotta listen to that again

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26 is the best for sure.

Top 3 would be: 26, 30 and 23

Bottom 3 would be: 20, 13 and 17

Keithfan - thank you for the kind words. Colgate has a unique affiliation with the number 13. Founded by 13 men, mostly Baptist ministers, who each contributed $1 to fund the college, who then said 13 prayers. The University still celebrates the number 13 today. It just would have been cool if it were DaP13.

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Stumbled upon this on on YouTube. I didn't know this kind of really good footage existed. I've seen a couple of short clips similar to this in various documentaries, but certainly never this. This is from the Download Series:

https://youtu.be/sjzNsjOnX0M

To think they played those awesome shows at the Fillmore East a week after this.

AJS - speaking of Fillmore East, I am a big fan of the Dave's Picks 30 cover art. Very original, and cool that it's the Fillmore East. Definitely one of my preferred covers. 26 is cool too - very relaxing and original as well. I forgot about the bonus disc art the number 26. I like that one a whole lot. There are some really good ones. I forgot about Dave's Picks 6 - that's pretty good for having a skeleton. I kind of dig 17 too, with the Wall of Sound skeltons in coattails (but the Road Trips Wall of Sound cover is better looking to me). Thanks for the info on Colgate, that's a really cool story actually. I'll have to check it out on a map one of these days. My whole extended family is spread out across different areas of New York.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvTW5s9_Pk. One of my all time favorite shows , thank goodness they still have the recording. 5/15/70, 5/2/70, & 9/20/70 are all killer acoustic sets, hopefully 9/20/70. will be released someday. The box set should be out anytime now, I hope it is something from 1969 or 1970
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Coming on here regularly, its hard to forget what a great cover Skull and Roses has. In fact a lot of those album covers were great. I remember they used to stand out when I flipped through record sleeves in shops, back in the early 70s, before I knew who they were.

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Billy the Kid it's really funny that you mention the acoustic stuff, because five minutes ago I put on Dick's Picks 8 Uncle John's Band as a prelude to the electric set on an hour-long car ride. The funny part is I've never listened to acoustic Dead before, except for that1980 PBS video. I don't know why. It's one of those deals I guess where I've been catching up on electric Dead for so long that I was just waiting for the right mood to hit me. This is a great Uncle John's Band!

Agree Daverock, the Dead had outstanding album art in the 70s. Tough to pick a favorite there. I guess I would go with Shakedown Street, and Blues for Allah as a second choice.

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It's been awhile since I've listened to any 1977, but I've been hitting these May shows from the original box set. Shows seem to sound better when I listen on their anniversary date.

First Estimated => Eyes on this one. I love when those opening chords to Eyes of the World kick in. I'm going with Dick's Picks 18 as my favorite (more for the Estimated Prophet than the Eyes). It was also the first Estimated I ever laid ears on, and the only one I had until they released To Terrapin: Hartford '77. Actually, come to think if it, I first heard it in person at JFK 7/7/89. I'm declaring it National Estimated Eyes day. Who has a favorite Estimated => Eyes?

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I've been impressed with just about all of the artists' efforts on the Dave's series. They've each applied their own styles to the Grateful Dead mystique. It's interesting to read how some folks favorites make other's 'worst list' and vice versa. I thought it was pretty cool when the artwork for Dave's 18 (Orpheum 7/17/76) continued on the 2016 Bonus CD – together they sort of echo the opened up Skull & Roses cover. And, altho some have them on their 'worst of list', I always kinda liked the painterly, melty, trippy approach Micah Nelson took with Dave's 13-16. Like the music they contain, my favorite cover art is usually on the Dave's I just looked at. . .

Nicely done Copperdomebodhi! Thanks! You inspired me to go back and add a little more Gaussian Blur to my Dave's 38 attempt. The fine linework in Helen's original art (hair, clouds, etc.) look like jagged lightning bolts when you zoom in on the printed separation on the CD cover. Your balance between sharpness and blur is spot on!

Onward.

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Keithfan, not sure if it's my favorite, but I gotta shout out the filler on Dick's 10 from 12/30/77. Love the jam between the tunes. Garcia builds and builds the tension like some great bird trapped in a tall glass building, slamming against the glass as he flies higher and higher until finally around the 9:50 mark he breaks through. Reminds me of Coltrane in the first act of Love Supreme.

Oh, and the eyes is followed by a nice St. Stephen.

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The July 5th '78 Omaha version is no slouch. I haven't really give much thought to my favorite. I think you might have to open up the discussion to Eyes > China Doll and really make it interesting. There's a few Eyes Estimated's that rank too. We could be here all week on this one.

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I like the one from 9/15/78 at Egypt. Heard by me on the bonus disc of Rocking The Cradle.

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The Estimated>Eyes from 9/2/83 might just be my favorite. 10/29/77, 4/12/78, and 11/26/80 are also very good. There’s just something about 9/2/83 that I really enjoy. The Estimated is probably the better of the two; extra jazzy and funky. Good Bob vocals. The Dave’s mix for the show is alright, but the Hunter Seamons matrix for the show is much better as far as sound quality, but both are good. There’s video for 4/12/78 too.

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The only one mentioned that I know well is Rocking the Cradle bonus. My first dead.net post was to see if anyone knew of another '78 Estimated Prophet other than DP 18 and DP 25. Was interested in '78 because Jerry extended his solo that begins around the 3:30 mark from 20 seconds to almost 2 minutes. At the time, Rocking the Cradle bonus and Road Trips were the only other '78 versions. There are many now. We've come a long way. Going to listen to these tonight.

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KF - though 5/15 has long been a favorite I did not realize that was the first pairing of Estimated > Eyes. Thanks for that bit of history.

Hands down my favorite cover art of the Dave's series is No. 11 - 11/17/72 Wichita, KS. Tony Millionaire knocked that one out of the park.

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Eyes=> China Doll I'm going with DaP 17 from July '74, Selland. The Eyes of the World is top-shelf 1974 (the vocal mix on this show I recall being exceptionally awesome). The China Doll has a beer bottle clinkering around at one point. You can almost see a dark alley with misty rain under a distant street light, when tragedy strikes.

Bluecrow, when I was writing up favorites my daughter said she liked the Wizard of Oz cover best. That one's a classic.

Lebowski, that's an enticing description of the DP 10 version. I haven't put that release on in ages.

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4/2/73 Dave’s 21……..you can hear a pin drop during China Doll…..haunting version

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All the 1970s talk and I didn't pay homage to Road Trips 5/15/70. Time to get on it. I threw all of the electric stuff together in the order they played it. I recall there's about 3 minutes of Dark Star where Jerry sounds like he's in Orbit. Maybe around 11 or 12 minutes. Attics of My Life is up there with Brokedown Palace in my book. We could use a few more versions of that one. I think for the 70s it's this one and DP 11 only.

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The NHL playoffs start today. The single best sporting event on the planet.

Good luck to your Golden Knights. I am all over Canadaland this year. Edmonton and Connor McDavid are my team.

The big money is on Colorado. They are young and fast, as I said last year. Will be tough to beat.

I know you are hoping for a Leafs joke, but I will forgo one until they actually fold.

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....Vegas has injuries. Got Minnesota.
Should be fun.
Had a $50 bet with my Avalanche loving cousin for most points.
Ended up a damn tie.
Four months of trash talk for a TIE!
Good times.
Drop the damn puck already.
And yes AJS. The NHL playoffs IS the best sporting event on the planet.

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An old friend

Sounds really good

Lots of Phil

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But I don't know a damn thing about hockey, even though I live in The State of Hockey, about five miles from where the Wild play! Perhaps DeadVikes would like to bet with you . . . ?

I do know that Minnesota playing Las Vegas in hockey is such an odd juxtaposition that it boggles my mind. :) Here we have tons of water and uptight old people, and it's bitter cold much of the year. Vegas? Likely the opposite? I was there once, to see the GD in 1993.

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Settling into 5/16/72, Radio Luxembourg. Has one of the best Promised Lands of 1972 I think. There is also a soundcheck of Big River, with a cool mellow Jerry intro. Bertha is one of the better tour versions (and the last for E72). Small radio audience, 400 - 500 DeadHeads only.

Lost track of hockey several years ago. Grew up with the Broad Street Bullies. Lived next door to Machine Gun Kelly until I was 5, but the only recollection I have is the pool party at his house. Watching the Flyers lose it all in '87 against Gretzky in 7 ripped my soul out for a while. It was such a grind to get there and almost beat The Great One in his prime. Tough being a Philly-ite.

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...a little late to the game but heck yeah, some of my favorite GD segments of all time are these two tunes smooshed up together.

April 16, 1978 - just a really great version of both tunes; the Estimated gets a little spooky in there for a bit as Bobby plays some slightly off sounding chords there toward the end of the segue....followed by a nicely played, relatively fast Eyes. Love how at the every end, they come back to the Eyes theme one final time before splatting away into drums: https://archive.org/details/gd1978-04-16.sbd.miller.82273.sbeok.flac16

October 15, 1989 - this one seems to get overlooked due to its proximity to the 'Nightfall of Diamonds' official release, but it is a great sounding show (and recorded to 24 track, I believe). The Estimated>Eyes is a standout section of the second set; Bobby plays some really interesting midi-stuff during the segue covering several different sounding instruments (including a xylophone at one point (!); it then drops right into a fast paced, blistering Eyes....just a really nice but more modern take on the duo if that suits you:

https://archive.org/details/gd1989-10-15.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8329…

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