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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #4471
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    Yes, I am going to put this one on today, thanks for the pick Bob t.

    We need a box announcement soon. It has been 12 months since the last one and I am freezing my ass off up here.

  • #4473
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    “How sweet it is”

    “The Jackie Gleason Show”

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    Pick today 2/15/73 Dane County Coliseum... Shall we go

    First of 2 shows played in Madison that year. 2 Dark Stars for Madison in 73..... Lots of fun....

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    How Sweet it is!...

    Yuck, yuck, get it...? ; )
    Strider, sweet post, nice vibe, nice memories, I’m going to have to look at that run. I feel like a had a couple sets from that run, but who knows...tight ya say? That’s interesting cause though I recall liking most/all the shows from that year my recollection is they could be intense, fiery, weird, but occasionally sloppy. But I’m learning that many of my memories are no longer relative lol.
    So I think I need to go there...buy the ticket...

    VGUY: girls, girls, girls!
    Wow interesting set...I was @ those Spectrum shows, and I remember Hand jive sorta but that’s about it for that one....dooooaaahhh, stupid memory! Kinda bums me out I don’t recall such a fun set, or maybe I’m just fortunate I’ve seen so much over the years that it all rolls into one....am I the Victim or the crime?

    EDIT: trying to remember now what year/show (86/87?) we saw at the Rectum where they had double booked the venue; WW wrestling followed by the GD....surreal as the meat heads, actually, I remember lots of children with nervous looking Dads LOL, but they had to make their way out through a large, anxious , aaa, “primed” crowd of Dead Heads! Actually very smooth but definitely interesting! Can’t remember what time the band started, but I know we were there well after midnight...Road crew must of loved that shit!

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    Happy Ballentine day , I mean Valentines Day

    2/14/68, truly a relic of the psychedelic. Have not listened in three years as I did for its 50th anniversary .
    But right now I’m traveling back 35 years ago to 2/14/86. Earlier today I glanced at my bulletin board and there was my ticket from that night! Took that as a sign I better relisten and report back.
    As I had been given a backstage pass from Brian Williams who was an assistant to John Cutler I brought an old Japanese poet friend Nanao Sakaki (January 1, 1923 - December 22, 2008) who had been visiting up at Kiskadee outside of Nevada City. I got in early and got a couple seats on the left side close to the stage , of course being the Kaiser, just off the main floor. Right now I’m finishing out the first set. As it had been raining cats and dogs and mountain lions and coyotes the Dead played several songs referencing those elements . What strikes me about this run of Dead shows is how tight they were. Let it Grow was so tight, or like the Sun Ra album title it was “bad and beautiful “. I did go back stage at the end of the first set to grab Bobby Petersen to step out front so he could meet Nanao . I believe I had a signed copy of Nanao’s book Real Play that we gave to Bobby. That was the last time I saw Bobby Petersen who died the following January 1987.
    So second set they opened with Keep on Growin the Derek and the Dominos song. Last time played. Listening to it now it sounds alright and better. I remember Nanao commenting on the Kaiser Auditorium being like a giant space ship. Boy howdy. Nanao was a true free spirit who loved spirits and smoking ganga. Now listening to Lost Sailor. I don’t believe I’ve listened to this concert in over 30 years. Oh yeah I recorded every night of this run with my Sony D-5 by patching in with other tapers. I’ve got those tapes still. Some on metal tape and others Maxell 2S. I have no idea how they may sound now. Decomposing further I reckon . Was going to pass on listening to this show but then finding the old ticket changed my mind. Sure don’t know what I’m going for but I’m gonna go for it for sure. Drums and space really impressed Nanao who many times was the life of the party at drum jams in Taos County in the 80s. Of course Bobby Petersen and Laird Grant lived in the Taos area off and on in the 60s and 70s. Laird at New Buffalo and Morning Star and Bobby up on Lama Mountain. I didn’t move to New Mexico until 1982 so was a late comer. You could say early 80s was the tail end of the old hippie days. Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I met Nanao in Zuni December 7th 1980. I had traveled there with a WW2 Navajo veteran (communications Sargent) but I digress.
    Terrapin sounds awesome at this time. Calling on the elements. Keeping it real. I get goosebumps hearing this show. My God time flies. Anyone who had the opportunity to see the Grateful Dead live even once (and got it) was quite fortunate. I think about the youngest Deadheads (10-11-12?) at some Dead shows in 95 who really became intrigued who may live to 95-101? What 2080? 2085? Who will be the last living Deadhead who actually saw the real Grateful Dead (1995 cutoff thank you) It will perhaps be something like the last Civil War veteran alive or the last WW 1 veteran alive.
    Back to 2/14/86, space sounding expansive. Echos from the stars. ( today from Mars?) Left a smoking crater like my mind was blown away. So here it is Valentines Day 2021. My mind is blown. But I will reiterate from another time, to keep your memory sharp, try not to smoke too much herb and drink too much. Exercise, clean diet ( freedom of choice ) good water. Good friends, love of family, lust for life , rise before dawn, greet the sun, give thanks for another day.
    Ah yes , Wharf Rat, old man down by the docks of the city. I got no dime but I got some time to hear his story.
    So go out and do some good dear readers. Glad I could share this story.
    “I’ll get up and fly away, fly away!”
    “The compass always points to Terrapin”

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    ....Irvine.
    The girls were pretty. That was my first takeaway. I was 16. Sue me.
    Didn't revisit the Dead until July '87. Was still in heavy metal mode then. Not an excuse. Just facts.

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    Killer show.. Garcia's first show back.

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    Early '86 offers up first sets like this....

    ....Spectrum. 3.23.86.
    Gimme Some Loving->
    Deal
    Hand Jive
    Candyman
    Cassidy
    West L.A. Fadeaway
    Mama Tried ->
    Big River ->
    Might As Well
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    Sounds danceable on screen. 🙃

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    GOGD; thanks fir the 7/6/86 reference. I’m not doing Dead today but it’s on my list!
    86 needs some intrepid traveling for sure...I know I liked 86 in 86 lol, but through the years it’s fallen through the cracks. Not remembering spring tour doesn’t help. I know I finally gave those shows a superficial listen on a job sight a couple years ago, but I really need to give them a better look. Still haven’t gotten to the Boxilla show either.

    2/14/68: RT 2.2, one of my most sought shows I don’t have yet. Waiting for Real Gone to hurry up and redo it. They were moving along pretty well at first, probably 4 a year like Dave’s. Then, a couple years ago, they slowed way down...maybe they had to slow down because rhino thought they were competing with DaPs?
    Anyway, been digging the RT 2.4 show from 93 much more then I would have thought. Hopefully sooner than later 2.3, from 74 will be out, since this is another highly anticipated one, hell all of volume 2 is!
    So I’ve purposely not listened to 2/14/68 YET, so I’m hopeful they’ll put that out ASAP this year...until then think that ketchup song...”antici-pa-a-tion, is making me wait”

    BALLANTINE ALE: ah that brings back some memories...don’t recall my impressions about drinking it, probably cause back then it was most once’s for the dollar..but since my initial reaction is not recoil, perhaps it wasn’t too bad?
    But I do fondly recall my pops often giving me 2 dollars to ride my bike down the street to the convenience store so I could get him a sixer of either Gobel or Ballentine, often on sale for 99c a sixer, in the back of the store in a giant pyramid with big sorta starburst price sign, and a pack of smokes (25 or 30c?) which left me a nice little bounty to buy baseball cards etc for the trouble. I’d toss the beer and smokes in my basket and rush home so I could find out if I got anything good! Must of been quite the sight!
    Hey it was a much different time and the manager/staff knew me and my pops and stuff like that happened back then.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 16:32

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Anthem of the Sun, Workingman's Dead, blues music, great bbq, and lots of ice cold beer, the world is always a better place.

To achieve a peace accord the psychedelics would have to be required, and more than 30 minutes of music would probably be needed. But each country could throw out 10 minutes of music (as part of Set 1), then the GD Nation would get Set 2 for 60 min.
I would end it with 5-8-77 Morning Dew.
Somewhere before that a China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider would also be needed. Probably one from E72 since European dignitaries would be present.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 18:53

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The 2021 Camp David Pop Festival. Electrify Camp David.

If we dosed them.. 2.14.68 or Live Dead? After 30 min they will either beg for more or politely ask for a straight jacket and a padded room, the exception might be Kim Jong Un, who will likely ask for a pack of smokes and access to some good American porn.

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Dark Star, after this 43 min blowout, they would have to regroup and sue for peace.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:00

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Although a mind-bending Dark Star sounds good to the experienced, I think it would only take one freak out and nukes would start flying.
Better to ease it in.

So,
start off with Peggy-O (Jim’s choice).

Followed up with a smokin’ China->Rider. Although I previously said a 72, I’m thinking that the situation calls for a 74 with the extra jammy transition.
Now the dignitaries are all up and dancing, with big grins that they can’t wipe off their face.

Time for some grease!
Good Lovin’ or Lovelight with Pigpen on full display.
Now the dignitaries are all happy and hugging.

Follow up with Help/Slip/Franklin’s.
Putin is twirling so fast the sweat is flying off his bare chest.

Now bring them back to earth with Morning Dew.

Who knew that achieving world peace could be so easy. It just takes the Good Ole Grateful Dead and some psychedelics.

Or is it whirled peas?

Almost as soon as I made this post last night.. a 1937 Rolls-Royce Phantom III Sedanca de Ville appeared and parked in front of my house. It really stands out in my neighborhood and people have begun to take notice. It came with an immaculately dressed, elderly Korean man wearing a top hat of all things. License plate reads ODDJOB.

Weird. He gets wigged out easily, got really pissed when I called him Random Task for example.

One caution regarding an incendiary Morning Dew. The song is about nuclear fallout that kills all of humanity. Might save that until after disarmament. Has anyone out there seen the 1959 movie On The Beach which? It inspired the young Ms. Dobson to write the song. A pretty cool flick and it gives you some insight to what inspired the lyrics. Her original version has some haunting vocals that provide, in a sense, some of the same emotional content and feelings of hopeless despair that Jerry brings in his voice and guitar.

Edit: More accurately stated, Jerry brought some of the same emotional content via guitar and vocals as the haunting vocals on Bonnie Dobson original recording. Both send chills up my spine.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 10:53

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The meeting should start with Morning Dew to show how bad things could be.
Then pull them out of despair with a rockin’ Shakedown.

If the negotiations fail then end the meeting with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 11:25

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My favorite is still 12/31/76 - NYE Cow Palace. We were there with several college friends, mostly non-heads. The whole night was full of synchronicity for us - almost magical. More on that another time.

During MD, everyone around us was completely silent, just soaking it all in. A girl with our group whom I didn't know turned to me at the end of the song, tears streaming down her face. She didn't understand why she was crying and asked me what the song was about. When I told her, she put her head on my shoulder and just sobbed. Looking around the folks near us, she wasn't the only one moved to tears. Powerful performance - stunning, really.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 16:20

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Helps to live in the Bay Area - no shortage of GD/JGB/Kingfish/etc. shows here, back in the day

He does a great Kissinger.

I'm pretty sure I discussed this on these threads.. but I had an airplane seat next to Mr. Kissinger 15 or 18 years ago, give or take. What a trip that was... Franken nailed it. The voice.. classic. And an avid taper. Dammit Henry, give me that tape, I'm gonna erase it right now.....

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 21:10

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5/11 at such a late hour. Starting at Scarlet Fire, will hit the highlights of set I after. Work tomorrow will not start at 8 am.

Edit: It's got a Peggy-O

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 04:43

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Has anyone ever brought that show up yet?

If it were me, from '82 it'd be a good recording of Red Rocks 7/28. :-)

Have a Grateful Day all...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 06:31

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@WTJ as far as I can tell, May 1982 hasn't come up.
I thought the greek shows had been discussed, but.. if so I didn't write it down, I guess.
5/21/82 looks fun.

5/11/72 - still working through this puppy. Fun stuff. Pigpen's organ on Good Lovin' is super tasty. Pig must've been feeling pretty good this night, 7 tunes and some nice organ playing.

5/11/77 - Shiz, been diggin' May '77 since the 5/8 anniversary. But I missed this yesterday.. so, gonna try and remedy that. BTW really great liner notes in that May 77 2013 box set. Steve Silberman & Blair's takes on stuff, especially jaded Heads, will give you a chuckle, highly recommended.

And @JiminMD I forgot about that Kissinger story, classic. Ted Koppel tells the funniest Kissinger story I've ever heard to Johnny Carson in his final month hosting the Tonight Show. Makes me laugh out loud every time I've seen it. I can't do it justice, but let's just say Ted Koppel had a great sense of humor.

Good stuff all.

BTW @WTJ what's the MaryE connection to 5/21/82?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 20:07

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Pretty sure she has memorized the transition to UJB so much so that she can sing it. Overall she is also an undervalued writer and dead denizen, as many props as she gets here. Hope ya had fun today all. I know I did! :-) Not too shabby for a Wed.

-edit- https://www.dead.net/show/may-21-1982

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 08:17

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another one of my earliest shows on cassette

I listened to it recently

magnificent show

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 13:23

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Yeah, that 5/21 show is sweet, nice call!
I kinda want to listen to the whole run now.
But I think I like this first night the best, so nice and spacey.

And the MaryE connection puts it over the top!

+1 on props to MaryE.
Mary's interview with Robert Hunter is amazing.
Highly recommended.

Alright, gonna listen to parts of 5/11/72 again.. cause it's just that good.

What's the pick anyhow?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 17:52

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I'm still working my way through 12/31/76.. but I am slow this week. Too many distractions this week.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 20:14

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Let's keep it going Jim. The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. My favorite around and around.

How do you all feel about hitting 8/13/75 tomorrow?

Oh, and where is that box announcement? 15 months and counting.

Stay well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 20:32

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The one that blew us all away in the day. I had an embarrassingly hissy cassette that I thought sounded great and loved labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." One From the Vault floored me when it hit the streets.. was that 1993? Or earlier? What an upgrade. I love the Bill Graham intro, which I believe might have been truncated either on the old cassette I used to have or on the release.. or maybe I've got this confused with another B. G. Intro. After a while it all rolls into one. I seem to recall they truncated this on the official release, but I might be wrong.

So a rocker and a classic... well, it's Friday.

"Good evening.. we welcome you. On behalf of the group..." I hope Bill is looking down and laughing at us right now.. I do miss him, what a great promoter.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 21:33

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Jim, if you can believe it was 91, 30 years ago. I still have my original copy and two years ago I picked up a remastered version they released in 2007 and it was a big upgrade in sound quality. Let me know if you don't have the 2007 release.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 21:38

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..but I am not completely sure which version I ripped.

I guess I will have to re-rip the version from the new box. Thanks Vikes.. I will make sure I have the remastered version in my library to listen to manyatta.

Ah, One from the Vault. My roommate had that back in the day. I got Two. Never managed to pick up my own copy of One. Used to love that. That period was so mellow and sublime. Easin' back into it. I'd have to go plug in to my external drives to see which things I DO have, but it's a lovely breezy Saturday afternoon, and I don't feel like sitting at my desk.

This is goin' back back back, way back in the pick list, but I just noticed that the top page says Dave's Picks 38 "Now Available", but you click and it's sold out, as otherwise expected. Any guesses why don't they offer a download edition?

RE: If the world peace meeting goes bad, end with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore. Too funny!
As much as people say Day Job was hated, I was just listening to 4/13/84 (still!) the other day and the audience is totally singing along joyfully with the refrain.

RE: "The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. " Note taken!

"5/21 Anything." That's an easy order to fill. :)

Way way back in the day, in August 1982 to be (somewhat) exact, following the Alpine shows, I got an audience snippet of a show that to this day blows all (my) doors off. St Louis Arena, 5/15/77 --- St. Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. First Iko!! into ripping NFA. Love this Set II closing sequence, love it love it to this day. Years later discover that it was taped by Steve Maizner. Thank you Steve.

I'm a big fan of the transportive audience, the one that places you "there". For naive me, this was the real deal and still is. To quote Ken Nordine in Eugene '93 - you are the cinematographer. First yelps and yells and shouts of joy on recognition of Stephen. Bob and Donna on the Daydream climax. My freaking God.

Linking the start of that "snippet" here: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=91094.

Whole show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15?source=91094. Its got a Jack a Roe :)

Of course - we've all (hopefully) got the May '77 board to listen to.

Spun 5/11 St Paul - another great May '77 show out of the Midwest. A favorite Scarlet > Fire. Currently Disc 2 of Daves 16 Springfield in the ride. Sounds divine. Plus Buffalo 5/9, good god Help opener (GOAT?) and comes A Time, though 5/8 still is the desert Island for me of the 2 if I got to choose. And back in the old times (last month), the whole Fillmore East April '71 run, plus Bill Graham's (Ratners??) ramble-on interview (which I loved). All that a first for me. For all the years I've seen that set list with the Beach Boys, hearing that show for the first time was something else. Pluses and minuses - ultimately a tough trade off I think.

Another bit of personal history. The friend who scored me the ticket to my first show (2/3/78) was from St. Louis and his older brother, who actually bought the 2/3 tickets, was a long time head who was at 5/15 and I think a whole f*ck ton of other St Louis shows going back who knows how many years. So yeah this show got me in the door in some fashion and made me who I am today :) That plus another visit to the Henry Mountains. Plus some Odell Sippin' Pretty.

Here in Spirit, if not posting presence, day to day.

Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

I will try and fit it in. It's a beautiful day here, lots to do.. and good tunes to see me through.

Have a great weekend all.. be good and be kind.

St. Louis! Alright. Tuscaloosa might be next. I think that show might be a notch above.

Be well.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/15/2021 - 16:07

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I have had a bunch of other stuff in the on deck circle for a while

3 31 73 today
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8 25 72

I need more GD time!!!!!!!!!!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 05/16/2021 - 12:35

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not to belabor a point but 5/15 is an off the hook show. been to the well time and time and time again the past 2 days (I've got my reasons) - Maizner audience, Sir Mick Matrix, Jay Ashley Bertha SBD remaster, HDCD discs from the first round of May shows. yeah I'm sort of obsessed. All excellent and bringing their own flavor. But if anyone is so inclined to go the audience route, put on the Sennheisers (or whatever you got) and listen to the Maizner pull on the Set II closer of St Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. Real deal, pure gold - trust me. And probably stick around for that Uncle Johns encore too :)

cued up 24 bit at relisten - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=90900

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 08:47

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I've been waiting for the right time to hear disc three.

eventually..............

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 09:34

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That show is impeccably tight. The one issue I have if there is one is they forgot to finish off the St.Stephen.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 13:58

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I have this show going now. Love these early versions of Jack A Roe.

5/17/77!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/18/2021 - 08:40

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my potd is 8/2/76

started it the other day

disc three...I arrived at work after the lead section of PITB. The jam awaits after work...

In the immortal words of Flounder in Animal House:

"oh boy, is this great!!!"

I like how that linked right to PITB Jimbo!

I'm in.

As soon as I finish this 6/8/92.
Show popped up on GDHour today, and Gans said his pal Charlie Miller mentioned that he thought this was possibly the best show of 1992.
Couldn't pass up that kinda feedback from those two bros and had to give it the once over.
the jam out of Crazy Fingers sure has some nice sparkle.
Not too shabby dabby do if I do say so myself.

Alright, onward.
Happy Hump Day!

PS - Missed 5/18/72 yesterday, but gonna try and fit that in somewhere too. It's a good problem to have :)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/19/2021 - 10:26

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I am going to check it out Jim. Thanks.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 05/19/2021 - 16:41

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Not sure if I’ve heard 6/8 before, but I was at 6/25,26 and they were pretty good.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/20/2021 - 11:30

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Took a crack at this show Jim. I wasn't able to find a decent version through Relisten.

Decided to go with 4/2/90 today from the Omni. Check it out if have not in a while.

Would love to have some information on that box leak.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/20/2021 - 13:15

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There was only one soundboard on archive.org (what I listened to):

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I think there is an audience patch for the first minute or so then it settled into a nice sounding board.

I don't do relisten much but this might be the same version???
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/04/10/friend-of-the-devil?sourc…

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 05/21/2021 - 08:03

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4/10/83 ✔️ Soundboard, shmoundboard, I listened to a good aud and dug it. Show has good energy and was a nice change up, haven’t done any 83 in a while, but been drawn there lately. Did 4/13/83 too. ✔️ Went with a decent HS matrix, but I enjoyed the show and the aud from 4/10 better.
Hit up 9/2/83 ✔️ the other day. Another good show that suffers from the recording...
Might go with more of this tour? Was at 4/12 & 15 on the rail both nights, big history with 4/12.
Have/have had parts of the meadowlands shows, so not sure where I’ll go?