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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 27, 2020 - 6:54am

#6081

JimInMD

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Veneta

I'm in. The funny thing with GD music, and I doubt I am alone.. some songs congeal and some pass right through me at any point in time. The Dark Star was never my favorite, but I love the China>Rider and PITB from this show.

...but all it takes is one receptive moment and the right music playing at the right time and I suddenly 'get' something that used to pass right through me. ..and there are the old songs that used to be key that I have moved on from.

Still, Veneta was always a favorite, I just got sucked into the PITB and the transition in the China Rider more than the Dark Star. I think because Jerry teased Morning Dew and Bob telegraphed El Paso and I always wondered what could have been.

A great show and both well recorded and documented.

So if Strider was wearing his clothes, it should be easy to pick him out. I only recall one person fully clothed in the whole movie, I'll be sure to be looking out for ya tonight, Strider..

Thanks so much for posting and giving us some context.
August 27, 2020 - 6:31am

#6082

Strider 808808

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Pick of the day?

8/27/72 , be it old bootleg cassette, Sunshine Daydream old bootleg VHS, Unofficial DVD, Official Rhino 2013 release CD/DVD or CD/blue ray. Or stream?

Years ago it was a prized and favorite bootleg cassette tape.
Pick of the day was a brilliant idea from Bolo. Keep it rolling.
August 26, 2020 - 4:30pm

#6083

Strider 808808

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Safari So Good

Just got word, test zoom for tomorrow’s Shakedown Stream went well. Pass the word, “Have you heard the Dead brother!!” Or maybe it was more like a satanical puritanical New England upbringing.
August 26, 2020 - 3:50pm

#6084

icecrmcnkd

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Podzilla

It’s a good thing to have.

Mine also has 4 x 256 GB microSDXC cards. Says 953 GB available, so it must be saving quite a few GB’s for storage info.
I also have an iBasso DX80 (worked great for about 2 years then died) and an iBasso DX120 (bought it before the DX80 died). Both have dual microSDXC slots that can each take 1 TB cards, but the iBasso user interface is pretty crappy, glitchy, and often slow to respond.
The iPod software is still superior even though it’s close to 15 years old. Glad I converted it to Podzilla.
August 26, 2020 - 1:37pm

#6085

bob t

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Jim

Glad you are ok!! Bob t
August 26, 2020 - 8:41am

#6086

DeadVikes

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1980 and Veneta

Strider, yes, the Warfield and Radio City shows in fall of 1980 are very special in the Dead's history and I am hoping for a miracle. Do you believe in miracles in 1980? Yes!

Jim, yes we hit up the Lakeland show earlier, but another listen is always welcome.

Veneta tomorrow!

Be well folks.
August 26, 2020 - 7:12am

#6087

Strider 808808

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Pole dude & 1980

I believe that was Gary Jenson. Been passed on a few years. I was real wild as a teenager but not quite that wild. I had my clothes on at both 1972 Veneta and 1982 Veneta. Maybe it was my puritanical New England upbringing.
1980, any complete recordings of the acoustic set Dead shows from that year should be considered holy grail material, Radio City, The Warfield and the two New Orleans shows with acoustic sets. Between the two years 1970 and 1980 plus the two or three December 81 acoustic sets with Joan Baez I have counted 70 something shows with acoustic Dead.
Shakedown Stream tomorrow, I’m preparing like a Saturn Rocket on the launch pad. 🚀
August 26, 2020 - 6:00am

#6088

JimInMD

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This Morning's Listen (for me)

Going with 11/28/80, Lakeland.

If we have already done this show, guessing we did at some point I was absent that day so consider this a makeup test day. Like the sirens sweetly singing, this one called to me this morning.

Hope you all have a great day... I'm off like a prom dress.
August 26, 2020 - 5:19am

#6089

JimInMD

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1980 / Random Musings

Love this year, the halfway point for the band.

Reflected on releases from this year this morning sipping on my Morning Brew:

Deadset, Dead Ahead, Reckoning, etc. all excellent, multitrack recordings.

Go To Nassau, 10/9/80 & 10/10/80 - Same as above

Road Trips, Volume 3 No 4 - Penn State and Barton Hall. Great songs and performances but the recording to me sounds a little thin and tinny. I put that in the Road Trips cassette master snafu category.

11/28/80 Lakeland FL - Sounds a little warmer than Barton Hall and Penn State, but still lacking a touch in fullness and richness. Still, has nice, clean sound and a good feel to it.

11/29/80 - Board segments have surfaced, the second set soundboard circulates and segments of the first set have been played by Lemieux on jam of the week. Some of the audience tapes that circulate are works of art. To be continued I guess, stay tuned. Would love to see a Matrix type effort and become an official release.

11/30/80 Fox Theatre - the Holy Grail of 2 track 1980 recordings/releases. The perfect marriage of the thinner boards of the year with the full sound of a truly great audience master. Hats off and many thanks to Dr. Bob Wagner for his contribution.

I would love to see more efforts like Dave's Picks 8, 11/30 Fox Theatre. That's the best sounding solution to the lacking cassette masters from the year and currently my personal favorite 1980 release or as I started spinning this while writing up this post.. more accurately stated as the last 1980 show I have listened to. As Tony the Tiger would say, It's Great!!!

One last nod goes to the unsung hero, Jim Wise for his audience contributions to I think the Lakeland show which was released and no credit given for his aud patch. Another great 1980 audience tape. I think I have this right.. I think it was Jim Wise and I think it was the Lakeland show, but I could be wrong about the exact show this happened on.

Ok.. coming off a bit of a health scare, thankfully not covid and something modern medicine is quite capable of treating.. I am trying to venture on a little bicycle, music adventure before it gets too hot with my new music toy. I took advantage of my down time by taking up some free advice Cone Kid gave six months or so ago.. I upgraded an old, used IPod Classic I bought of Amazon a couple years ago that unfortunately suffered from a bad heart (battery). I upgraded it myself and replaced both the battery and the hard drive using IFlash Memory instead of the old, standard hard drives they used to contain. Powered by 4, 256 Gig MicroSD Chips that are super small and light. So I now have a 1TB IPod both works like new and has literally every single GD show I have imported / Ripped / downloaded into my digital world. 10,000 songs.. would take more than a year of solid listening 24/7 to get through the whole thing and the sick part.. I still have 450 gigs of free space left.

If you picked the best recording of every show (officially released and the best version that circulates) and stored it as either Flac or ALAC (lossless but compressed) I believe you could fit every single Dead Show that circulates on this device that fits in the palm of my hand. I am calling it Podzilla. Many thanks to Cone Kid for the dead.net tip of the day six months ago. So 30 years of live GD music on the go, and off I go..

Have a great day, stay cool and best of luck to our friends in the Southern Gulf States (and Western Mexico) that are about to get hit with a couple (few) hurricanes any day now. A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall. Did someone say 1972?
August 26, 2020 - 4:39am

#6090

wilfredtjones

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9/3/80

I like Brent's vocals on the outro to Deal on this one. Check out the China>Rider from the day before (Rochester). There's some interesting things going there vocally, too. This time between Jerry and Bob.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Cognitive Diffusion Strategy

I'd select 9/19/70:
St. Stephen >
Not Fade Away >
Darkness Jam >
China Cat Jam >
Not Fade Away

And crank it up!

Anthem of the Sun.......

Anthem of the Sun, Workingman's Dead, blues music, great bbq, and lots of ice cold beer, the world is always a better place.

Bolo

To achieve a peace accord the psychedelics would have to be required, and more than 30 minutes of music would probably be needed. But each country could throw out 10 minutes of music (as part of Set 1), then the GD Nation would get Set 2 for 60 min.
I would end it with 5-8-77 Morning Dew.
Somewhere before that a China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider would also be needed. Probably one from E72 since European dignitaries would be present.

Ha, yes..

The 2021 Camp David Pop Festival. Electrify Camp David.

I'd have to go with 8/13/75 Great American Music Hall

Bolo... The Bill Graham intro and then the Help>Slipknot> Franklins... bob t

I Don't Know

If we dosed them.. 2.14.68 or Live Dead? After 30 min they will either beg for more or politely ask for a straight jacket and a padded room, the exception might be Kim Jong Un, who will likely ask for a pack of smokes and access to some good American porn.

I have it on good authority...

...that Putin sobs uncontrollably every time he hears Peggy-O.

12/6/73

Dark Star, after this 43 min blowout, they would have to regroup and sue for peace.

Psychedelic Camp David

Although a mind-bending Dark Star sounds good to the experienced, I think it would only take one freak out and nukes would start flying.
Better to ease it in.

So,
start off with Peggy-O (Jim’s choice).

Followed up with a smokin’ China->Rider. Although I previously said a 72, I’m thinking that the situation calls for a 74 with the extra jammy transition.
Now the dignitaries are all up and dancing, with big grins that they can’t wipe off their face.

Time for some grease!
Good Lovin’ or Lovelight with Pigpen on full display.
Now the dignitaries are all happy and hugging.

Follow up with Help/Slip/Franklin’s.
Putin is twirling so fast the sweat is flying off his bare chest.

Now bring them back to earth with Morning Dew.

Who knew that achieving world peace could be so easy. It just takes the Good Ole Grateful Dead and some psychedelics.

Or is it whirled peas?

Weird

Almost as soon as I made this post last night.. a 1937 Rolls-Royce Phantom III Sedanca de Ville appeared and parked in front of my house. It really stands out in my neighborhood and people have begun to take notice. It came with an immaculately dressed, elderly Korean man wearing a top hat of all things. License plate reads ODDJOB.

Weird. He gets wigged out easily, got really pissed when I called him Random Task for example.

One caution regarding an incendiary Morning Dew. The song is about nuclear fallout that kills all of humanity. Might save that until after disarmament. Has anyone out there seen the 1959 movie On The Beach which? It inspired the young Ms. Dobson to write the song. A pretty cool flick and it gives you some insight to what inspired the lyrics. Her original version has some haunting vocals that provide, in a sense, some of the same emotional content and feelings of hopeless despair that Jerry brings in his voice and guitar.

Edit: More accurately stated, Jerry brought some of the same emotional content via guitar and vocals as the haunting vocals on Bonnie Dobson original recording. Both send chills up my spine.

Good point Jim

The meeting should start with Morning Dew to show how bad things could be.
Then pull them out of despair with a rockin’ Shakedown.

If the negotiations fail then end the meeting with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore.

RE: Morning Dew

My favorite is still 12/31/76 - NYE Cow Palace. We were there with several college friends, mostly non-heads. The whole night was full of synchronicity for us - almost magical. More on that another time.

During MD, everyone around us was completely silent, just soaking it all in. A girl with our group whom I didn't know turned to me at the end of the song, tears streaming down her face. She didn't understand why she was crying and asked me what the song was about. When I told her, she put her head on my shoulder and just sobbed. Looking around the folks near us, she wasn't the only one moved to tears. Powerful performance - stunning, really.

Bolo Morning Dew

Wow!

Man, you sure were at a lot of legendary shows, lucky guy.

DV

Helps to live in the Bay Area - no shortage of GD/JGB/Kingfish/etc. shows here, back in the day

12/31/76 Tomorrow Then

Great story Bolo.

Guaranteed success at Psychedelic Camp David

Have Al Franken dress up as Henry Kissinger and host the event.
He can even pick the tunes.

Al Franken

He does a great Kissinger.

I'm pretty sure I discussed this on these threads.. but I had an airplane seat next to Mr. Kissinger 15 or 18 years ago, give or take. What a trip that was... Franken nailed it. The voice.. classic. And an avid taper. Dammit Henry, give me that tape, I'm gonna erase it right now.....

Keithfan reminded me on the 38 page....

....that this is the anniversary of St. Paul '77. Been too long since I've listened. Screw peaking at the set list. Firing it up now.

Cow Palace 76

This show is always welcome Jim. A big favorite.

Keithfan and VGuy have sucked me in...

5/11 at such a late hour. Starting at Scarlet Fire, will hit the highlights of set I after. Work tomorrow will not start at 8 am.

Edit: It's got a Peggy-O

5/21/82 for marye

Has anyone ever brought that show up yet?

If it were me, from '82 it'd be a good recording of Red Rocks 7/28. :-)

Have a Grateful Day all...

May '82

@WTJ as far as I can tell, May 1982 hasn't come up.
I thought the greek shows had been discussed, but.. if so I didn't write it down, I guess.
5/21/82 looks fun.

5/11/72 - still working through this puppy. Fun stuff. Pigpen's organ on Good Lovin' is super tasty. Pig must've been feeling pretty good this night, 7 tunes and some nice organ playing.

5/11/77 - Shiz, been diggin' May '77 since the 5/8 anniversary. But I missed this yesterday.. so, gonna try and remedy that. BTW really great liner notes in that May 77 2013 box set. Steve Silberman & Blair's takes on stuff, especially jaded Heads, will give you a chuckle, highly recommended.

And @JiminMD I forgot about that Kissinger story, classic. Ted Koppel tells the funniest Kissinger story I've ever heard to Johnny Carson in his final month hosting the Tonight Show. Makes me laugh out loud every time I've seen it. I can't do it justice, but let's just say Ted Koppel had a great sense of humor.

Good stuff all.

BTW @WTJ what's the MaryE connection to 5/21/82?

marye 5/21/82

Pretty sure she has memorized the transition to UJB so much so that she can sing it. Overall she is also an undervalued writer and dead denizen, as many props as she gets here. Hope ya had fun today all. I know I did! :-) Not too shabby for a Wed.

-edit- https://www.dead.net/show/may-21-1982

5/21/82

another one of my earliest shows on cassette

I listened to it recently

magnificent show

The Greek '82

Yeah, that 5/21 show is sweet, nice call!
I kinda want to listen to the whole run now.
But I think I like this first night the best, so nice and spacey.

And the MaryE connection puts it over the top!

+1 on props to MaryE.
Mary's interview with Robert Hunter is amazing.
Highly recommended.

Alright, gonna listen to parts of 5/11/72 again.. cause it's just that good.

What's the pick anyhow?

Pick

I'm still working my way through 12/31/76.. but I am slow this week. Too many distractions this week.

Pick of the Day

Let's keep it going Jim. The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. My favorite around and around.

How do you all feel about hitting 8/13/75 tomorrow?

Oh, and where is that box announcement? 15 months and counting.

Stay well folks.

5.21 anything....

....passes my litmus test.

8/13

The one that blew us all away in the day. I had an embarrassingly hissy cassette that I thought sounded great and loved labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." One From the Vault floored me when it hit the streets.. was that 1993? Or earlier? What an upgrade. I love the Bill Graham intro, which I believe might have been truncated either on the old cassette I used to have or on the release.. or maybe I've got this confused with another B. G. Intro. After a while it all rolls into one. I seem to recall they truncated this on the official release, but I might be wrong.

So a rocker and a classic... well, it's Friday.

"Good evening.. we welcome you. On behalf of the group..." I hope Bill is looking down and laughing at us right now.. I do miss him, what a great promoter.

8/13/75

Jim, if you can believe it was 91, 30 years ago. I still have my original copy and two years ago I picked up a remastered version they released in 2007 and it was a big upgrade in sound quality. Let me know if you don't have the 2007 release.

I rebought the From the Vault Box..

..but I am not completely sure which version I ripped.

I guess I will have to re-rip the version from the new box. Thanks Vikes.. I will make sure I have the remastered version in my library to listen to manyatta.

I'm doing Arrowhead '78....

....charting my own course.
Come aboard!

Ah, One from the Vault. My…

Ah, One from the Vault. My roommate had that back in the day. I got Two. Never managed to pick up my own copy of One. Used to love that. That period was so mellow and sublime. Easin' back into it. I'd have to go plug in to my external drives to see which things I DO have, but it's a lovely breezy Saturday afternoon, and I don't feel like sitting at my desk.

This is goin' back back back, way back in the pick list, but I just noticed that the top page says Dave's Picks 38 "Now Available", but you click and it's sold out, as otherwise expected. Any guesses why don't they offer a download edition?

RE: If the world peace meeting goes bad, end with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore. Too funny!
As much as people say Day Job was hated, I was just listening to 4/13/84 (still!) the other day and the audience is totally singing along joyfully with the refrain.

RE: "The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. " Note taken!

"5/21 Anything." That's an easy order to fill. :)

so, how about 5/15/77??

Way way back in the day, in August 1982 to be (somewhat) exact, following the Alpine shows, I got an audience snippet of a show that to this day blows all (my) doors off. St Louis Arena, 5/15/77 --- St. Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. First Iko!! into ripping NFA. Love this Set II closing sequence, love it love it to this day. Years later discover that it was taped by Steve Maizner. Thank you Steve.

I'm a big fan of the transportive audience, the one that places you "there". For naive me, this was the real deal and still is. To quote Ken Nordine in Eugene '93 - you are the cinematographer. First yelps and yells and shouts of joy on recognition of Stephen. Bob and Donna on the Daydream climax. My freaking God.

Linking the start of that "snippet" here: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=91094.

Whole show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15?source=91094. Its got a Jack a Roe :)

Of course - we've all (hopefully) got the May '77 board to listen to.

Spun 5/11 St Paul - another great May '77 show out of the Midwest. A favorite Scarlet > Fire. Currently Disc 2 of Daves 16 Springfield in the ride. Sounds divine. Plus Buffalo 5/9, good god Help opener (GOAT?) and comes A Time, though 5/8 still is the desert Island for me of the 2 if I got to choose. And back in the old times (last month), the whole Fillmore East April '71 run, plus Bill Graham's (Ratners??) ramble-on interview (which I loved). All that a first for me. For all the years I've seen that set list with the Beach Boys, hearing that show for the first time was something else. Pluses and minuses - ultimately a tough trade off I think.

Another bit of personal history. The friend who scored me the ticket to my first show (2/3/78) was from St. Louis and his older brother, who actually bought the 2/3 tickets, was a long time head who was at 5/15 and I think a whole f*ck ton of other St Louis shows going back who knows how many years. So yeah this show got me in the door in some fashion and made me who I am today :) That plus another visit to the Henry Mountains. Plus some Odell Sippin' Pretty.

Here in Spirit, if not posting presence, day to day.

Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

5.15

I will try and fit it in. It's a beautiful day here, lots to do.. and good tunes to see me through.

Have a great weekend all.. be good and be kind.

5/15/77

St. Louis! Alright. Tuscaloosa might be next. I think that show might be a notch above.

Be well.

Gotta hear that summer 78 box

I have had a bunch of other stuff in the on deck circle for a while

3 31 73 today
and
8 25 72

I need more GD time!!!!!!!!!!

Rockthing

check your PM's

so, yes, 5/15/77

not to belabor a point but 5/15 is an off the hook show. been to the well time and time and time again the past 2 days (I've got my reasons) - Maizner audience, Sir Mick Matrix, Jay Ashley Bertha SBD remaster, HDCD discs from the first round of May shows. yeah I'm sort of obsessed. All excellent and bringing their own flavor. But if anyone is so inclined to go the audience route, put on the Sennheisers (or whatever you got) and listen to the Maizner pull on the Set II closer of St Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. Real deal, pure gold - trust me. And probably stick around for that Uncle Johns encore too :)

cued up 24 bit at relisten - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=90900

5/15/77

I've been waiting for the right time to hear disc three.

eventually..............

5/15/77

That show is impeccably tight. The one issue I have if there is one is they forgot to finish off the St.Stephen.

Tuscaloosa AL

I have this show going now. Love these early versions of Jack A Roe.

5/17/77!

I say...

my potd is 8/2/76

started it the other day

disc three...I arrived at work after the lead section of PITB. The jam awaits after work...

In the immortal words of Flounder in Animal House:

"oh boy, is this great!!!"

Palate Cleanse Perhaps?

This one's way off the beaten path.

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I hear banjo music...

Playing hooky from work today. An adventure is in order. (Don't tell my boss)

PITB

I like how that linked right to PITB Jimbo!

I'm in.

As soon as I finish this 6/8/92.
Show popped up on GDHour today, and Gans said his pal Charlie Miller mentioned that he thought this was possibly the best show of 1992.
Couldn't pass up that kinda feedback from those two bros and had to give it the once over.
the jam out of Crazy Fingers sure has some nice sparkle.
Not too shabby dabby do if I do say so myself.

Alright, onward.
Happy Hump Day!

PS - Missed 5/18/72 yesterday, but gonna try and fit that in somewhere too. It's a good problem to have :)

4/10/83

I am going to check it out Jim. Thanks.

92

Not sure if I’ve heard 6/8 before, but I was at 6/25,26 and they were pretty good.

4/10/83

Took a crack at this show Jim. I wasn't able to find a decent version through Relisten.

Decided to go with 4/2/90 today from the Omni. Check it out if have not in a while.

Would love to have some information on that box leak.

Morgantown '83

There was only one soundboard on archive.org (what I listened to):

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I think there is an audience patch for the first minute or so then it settled into a nice sounding board.

I don't do relisten much but this might be the same version???
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/04/10/friend-of-the-devil?sourc…

Path Beaten...

4/10/83 ✔️ Soundboard, shmoundboard, I listened to a good aud and dug it. Show has good energy and was a nice change up, haven’t done any 83 in a while, but been drawn there lately. Did 4/13/83 too. ✔️ Went with a decent HS matrix, but I enjoyed the show and the aud from 4/10 better.
Hit up 9/2/83 ✔️ the other day. Another good show that suffers from the recording...
Might go with more of this tour? Was at 4/12 & 15 on the rail both nights, big history with 4/12.
Have/have had parts of the meadowlands shows, so not sure where I’ll go?