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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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July 7, 2020 - 8:39pm

#6571

bluecrow

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historic photo

somewhere in my "vault" is a crisp, 8 x 10(?), home darkroom printed, b/w photo ca. summer 1978 of friends and I posing by the sign for the Bong Motel. a pleasant Saturday drive up into the land of cheap beer. Anybody here ever pay tribute to the Andy Gump statue in Lake Geneva?

DeadVikes - yeah the ultramatrix for 7/6/87 ain't too good. if you're still looking for a good source, try this on for size when you have the time. I thought this was a sweet sounding audience on the headphones last night. (Thank you taper Lucien Zaleski! - source 8 of 10 at relisten).

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1987/07/06?source=95912

thanks for more Pittsburgh stories Jim and GOGD! yep 1987 was a fun year! first show for me that spring was the somewhat obscure UIC Pavillion 4-9-87 - watched it from the penalty box (no lie!) blazing scarlet - fire and whole 2nd set. jerry reborn!!
July 7, 2020 - 7:15pm

#6572

Vguy72

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7.7.84....

....twas a good show. Back when there were more 🌳's on the lawn.
July 7, 2020 - 4:31pm

#6573

wilfredtjones

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4.4.87

Somehow it seemed to me to be related to Alpine 7.7.84, so I went there today after the Alpine show. There's a Playing Reprise and I'm hitting the epic Dew right now. No hearty post-Space Terrapin though. It's nice to know as a Wisconsinite that we have places like Bong right nearby. :-)
July 7, 2020 - 4:20pm

#6574

JimInMD

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Alpine

Ha.. yes, I stayed there in 87.
July 7, 2020 - 10:48am

#6575

wilfredtjones

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Alpine

Is that anywhere near Bong Rec? :-P
July 7, 2020 - 10:46am

#6576

Thats_Otis

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Alpine 84?

Sounds good to me!

And I will second Jim's 4/23/69 Ark pick for tomorrow - should be an interesting contrast.

Since there wasn't yet a pick for today, I loaded up Beacon Theater 6/14/76 from the box, after a morning appetizer of Disc 3 from 4/8/72 Wembley. I got through the first two discs of that one last evening, but HAD to listen to the third before putting it back on the shelf. Favorite Dark Star ever? I dunno, but it is certainly up there! The Beacon Theater show is nice, but it was a little unfair coming right on the heels of that Europe 72 show, as most things are.

Back to the 80s madness! I've actually been to Alpine - the steepest lawn I've ever been on!

Peace
July 7, 2020 - 8:42am

#6577

JimInMD

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84

Funny, I was going to toss out an 84 option since we seem to be on an 80's terror.

Perhaps we can squeeze in something primal soon and something in the 7 1 through 74 range too.

As for primal, perhaps later this week?? It's been years since I listened to 4/23/69.
July 7, 2020 - 8:11am

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The Good Ole G…

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While Walkin’ Around Pittsburgh One Day

What a fun night!

The Scene:
We'd gotten home from Alpine and kicked around for a week or so and then headed over to Pittsburgh for our last taste of the Dead for the summer of '87. I guess it was a Monday night, but felt like a party. The only time we stayed in a hotel, and a bunch of our friends from Ohio had the room nextdoor. The rooms had a connecting walk through party door and we walked through it and partied all night long! It was off the hook. I can't remember if that was planned or coincidence, but feel like we didn't know until we got to the room. The hotel was taken over by Dead Heads and a party raged the whole time before and after. There was a Park & Eat diner up the road and we went there in shifts throughout the night, high out of our minds, laughing and shit like we were on a different planet, and we were. All these stoned out hippies flooding the place. We made up all these names for it, the barf & puke, the stop & ralph, we were rolling. I think there was a pool and the balcony circled around the pool.. but yeah it was 33 years ago, and we were all blotto.

The Music:
You ever been to a show with a friend and the band plays ALL of their favorites? That was this night for me and my buddy Walling. The place was electric and everybody was ready to party and so was the band. If I remember correctly, which is highly suspect, but mentioned elsewhere, there were guest musician rumors going around that day, so we were taking guesses on who it’d be, I was pretty sure it’d be Dylan, since they’d just played with him. I think that happened, but again the mind can do funny things. The show had that kind of extra excitement. There was magic in the air. And the band was on, Jerry was stomping around and belting it out and it had that ’87 energy of renewal. We’d seen it at Hampton, and felt it at Alpine (somewhat) but couldn’t see it there. So it was GREAT to have it confirmed in Pittsburgh. We had a great view of the happenings and just boogied down all night. If you weren’t hip before, when the Neville Brothers joined the band, everybody knew they were experiencing something special! I had definitely figured it out when Jerry started belting out Whoa’s during Shakedown Street, it was electric. What a fun show. It was my first & only Shakedown, and man it’s still my favorite. The first Knockin’ out of space was pretty epic to witness, by then we had been on such an adventure we just watched in awe, and then they revved up like a deuce with a couple more rockers to send us home or in our case, back to a raging hotel party that continued all night. Throughout, the band played my best friend & traveling partner’s favorite tunes that we didn’t see at Hampton or Alpine. The Shakedown > Samson, Iko > Day-O (he also loved that song, it was cosmically weird) > Women & closing Good Lovin’ & JBG encore, felt like it had been dreamed / willed up by my pal Harvey Wallbanger and we danced our asses off. Good times huh bro?!?!

33 years later it still gives me the chills looking back on it and remembering

Never Had Such A Good Time.

Thanks to BLUECROW & JIMINMD for sharing their tales as well. And thanks to all for listening in with me, this one holds a special place in my heart. The band came to have an electric rock n’ roll party and that’s just what we did.
EDIT: Ironic that In The Dark was released this day as well, and the band didn't play a single tune off the album, bad ass ;)

What a band!

Alright, what’s on tap for today?
EDIT 2: Alpine Valley 7/7/84 you say...
July 7, 2020 - 8:07am

#6579

Vguy72

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My turn!.....

https://archive.org/details/gd1984-07-07.sbd.miller.94379.sbeok.flac16/…
Alpine Valley 7.7.84. Welcoming Lovelight back into the fold! Let's do this!!!
July 6, 2020 - 9:59pm

#6580

DeadVikes

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7/6/87, etc.

Jim and Bluecrow, thanks for sharing your memories of the Igloo! Really cool. Jim, yes, I do know what you mean, about the changes that occurred after In the Dark. The Dead achieved big time success, which I think was great for them, but of course it changed the scene forever.

The ultra matrix I pulled up on Relisten was marginal. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

Official releases versus bootlegs. I will say, this site would not exist if it wasn't for the official releases. Professional recordings, mixing and mastering take a ton of time and effort and in most cases sound way better than unofficial releases. If they didn't, Grateful Dead Productions and Rhino would not brother with these releases. I am sure glad they do, it has been tons of fun.
I have also been surprised how good some of the shows on The archive or Relisten sound. Miller seems to do a fantastic job, however, it is still no guarantee that the recordings themselves were very good.

Long live the Vault!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Cognitive Diffusion Strategy

I'd select 9/19/70:
St. Stephen >
Not Fade Away >
Darkness Jam >
China Cat Jam >
Not Fade Away

And crank it up!

Anthem of the Sun.......

Anthem of the Sun, Workingman's Dead, blues music, great bbq, and lots of ice cold beer, the world is always a better place.

Bolo

To achieve a peace accord the psychedelics would have to be required, and more than 30 minutes of music would probably be needed. But each country could throw out 10 minutes of music (as part of Set 1), then the GD Nation would get Set 2 for 60 min.
I would end it with 5-8-77 Morning Dew.
Somewhere before that a China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider would also be needed. Probably one from E72 since European dignitaries would be present.

Ha, yes..

The 2021 Camp David Pop Festival. Electrify Camp David.

I'd have to go with 8/13/75 Great American Music Hall

Bolo... The Bill Graham intro and then the Help>Slipknot> Franklins... bob t

I Don't Know

If we dosed them.. 2.14.68 or Live Dead? After 30 min they will either beg for more or politely ask for a straight jacket and a padded room, the exception might be Kim Jong Un, who will likely ask for a pack of smokes and access to some good American porn.

I have it on good authority...

...that Putin sobs uncontrollably every time he hears Peggy-O.

12/6/73

Dark Star, after this 43 min blowout, they would have to regroup and sue for peace.

Psychedelic Camp David

Although a mind-bending Dark Star sounds good to the experienced, I think it would only take one freak out and nukes would start flying.
Better to ease it in.

So,
start off with Peggy-O (Jim’s choice).

Followed up with a smokin’ China->Rider. Although I previously said a 72, I’m thinking that the situation calls for a 74 with the extra jammy transition.
Now the dignitaries are all up and dancing, with big grins that they can’t wipe off their face.

Time for some grease!
Good Lovin’ or Lovelight with Pigpen on full display.
Now the dignitaries are all happy and hugging.

Follow up with Help/Slip/Franklin’s.
Putin is twirling so fast the sweat is flying off his bare chest.

Now bring them back to earth with Morning Dew.

Who knew that achieving world peace could be so easy. It just takes the Good Ole Grateful Dead and some psychedelics.

Or is it whirled peas?

Weird

Almost as soon as I made this post last night.. a 1937 Rolls-Royce Phantom III Sedanca de Ville appeared and parked in front of my house. It really stands out in my neighborhood and people have begun to take notice. It came with an immaculately dressed, elderly Korean man wearing a top hat of all things. License plate reads ODDJOB.

Weird. He gets wigged out easily, got really pissed when I called him Random Task for example.

One caution regarding an incendiary Morning Dew. The song is about nuclear fallout that kills all of humanity. Might save that until after disarmament. Has anyone out there seen the 1959 movie On The Beach which? It inspired the young Ms. Dobson to write the song. A pretty cool flick and it gives you some insight to what inspired the lyrics. Her original version has some haunting vocals that provide, in a sense, some of the same emotional content and feelings of hopeless despair that Jerry brings in his voice and guitar.

Edit: More accurately stated, Jerry brought some of the same emotional content via guitar and vocals as the haunting vocals on Bonnie Dobson original recording. Both send chills up my spine.

Good point Jim

The meeting should start with Morning Dew to show how bad things could be.
Then pull them out of despair with a rockin’ Shakedown.

If the negotiations fail then end the meeting with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore.

RE: Morning Dew

My favorite is still 12/31/76 - NYE Cow Palace. We were there with several college friends, mostly non-heads. The whole night was full of synchronicity for us - almost magical. More on that another time.

During MD, everyone around us was completely silent, just soaking it all in. A girl with our group whom I didn't know turned to me at the end of the song, tears streaming down her face. She didn't understand why she was crying and asked me what the song was about. When I told her, she put her head on my shoulder and just sobbed. Looking around the folks near us, she wasn't the only one moved to tears. Powerful performance - stunning, really.

Bolo Morning Dew

Wow!

Man, you sure were at a lot of legendary shows, lucky guy.

DV

Helps to live in the Bay Area - no shortage of GD/JGB/Kingfish/etc. shows here, back in the day

12/31/76 Tomorrow Then

Great story Bolo.

Guaranteed success at Psychedelic Camp David

Have Al Franken dress up as Henry Kissinger and host the event.
He can even pick the tunes.

Al Franken

He does a great Kissinger.

I'm pretty sure I discussed this on these threads.. but I had an airplane seat next to Mr. Kissinger 15 or 18 years ago, give or take. What a trip that was... Franken nailed it. The voice.. classic. And an avid taper. Dammit Henry, give me that tape, I'm gonna erase it right now.....

Keithfan reminded me on the 38 page....

....that this is the anniversary of St. Paul '77. Been too long since I've listened. Screw peaking at the set list. Firing it up now.

Cow Palace 76

This show is always welcome Jim. A big favorite.

Keithfan and VGuy have sucked me in...

5/11 at such a late hour. Starting at Scarlet Fire, will hit the highlights of set I after. Work tomorrow will not start at 8 am.

Edit: It's got a Peggy-O

5/21/82 for marye

Has anyone ever brought that show up yet?

If it were me, from '82 it'd be a good recording of Red Rocks 7/28. :-)

Have a Grateful Day all...

May '82

@WTJ as far as I can tell, May 1982 hasn't come up.
I thought the greek shows had been discussed, but.. if so I didn't write it down, I guess.
5/21/82 looks fun.

5/11/72 - still working through this puppy. Fun stuff. Pigpen's organ on Good Lovin' is super tasty. Pig must've been feeling pretty good this night, 7 tunes and some nice organ playing.

5/11/77 - Shiz, been diggin' May '77 since the 5/8 anniversary. But I missed this yesterday.. so, gonna try and remedy that. BTW really great liner notes in that May 77 2013 box set. Steve Silberman & Blair's takes on stuff, especially jaded Heads, will give you a chuckle, highly recommended.

And @JiminMD I forgot about that Kissinger story, classic. Ted Koppel tells the funniest Kissinger story I've ever heard to Johnny Carson in his final month hosting the Tonight Show. Makes me laugh out loud every time I've seen it. I can't do it justice, but let's just say Ted Koppel had a great sense of humor.

Good stuff all.

BTW @WTJ what's the MaryE connection to 5/21/82?

marye 5/21/82

Pretty sure she has memorized the transition to UJB so much so that she can sing it. Overall she is also an undervalued writer and dead denizen, as many props as she gets here. Hope ya had fun today all. I know I did! :-) Not too shabby for a Wed.

-edit- https://www.dead.net/show/may-21-1982

5/21/82

another one of my earliest shows on cassette

I listened to it recently

magnificent show

The Greek '82

Yeah, that 5/21 show is sweet, nice call!
I kinda want to listen to the whole run now.
But I think I like this first night the best, so nice and spacey.

And the MaryE connection puts it over the top!

+1 on props to MaryE.
Mary's interview with Robert Hunter is amazing.
Highly recommended.

Alright, gonna listen to parts of 5/11/72 again.. cause it's just that good.

What's the pick anyhow?

Pick

I'm still working my way through 12/31/76.. but I am slow this week. Too many distractions this week.

Pick of the Day

Let's keep it going Jim. The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. My favorite around and around.

How do you all feel about hitting 8/13/75 tomorrow?

Oh, and where is that box announcement? 15 months and counting.

Stay well folks.

5.21 anything....

....passes my litmus test.

8/13

The one that blew us all away in the day. I had an embarrassingly hissy cassette that I thought sounded great and loved labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." One From the Vault floored me when it hit the streets.. was that 1993? Or earlier? What an upgrade. I love the Bill Graham intro, which I believe might have been truncated either on the old cassette I used to have or on the release.. or maybe I've got this confused with another B. G. Intro. After a while it all rolls into one. I seem to recall they truncated this on the official release, but I might be wrong.

So a rocker and a classic... well, it's Friday.

"Good evening.. we welcome you. On behalf of the group..." I hope Bill is looking down and laughing at us right now.. I do miss him, what a great promoter.

8/13/75

Jim, if you can believe it was 91, 30 years ago. I still have my original copy and two years ago I picked up a remastered version they released in 2007 and it was a big upgrade in sound quality. Let me know if you don't have the 2007 release.

I rebought the From the Vault Box..

..but I am not completely sure which version I ripped.

I guess I will have to re-rip the version from the new box. Thanks Vikes.. I will make sure I have the remastered version in my library to listen to manyatta.

I'm doing Arrowhead '78....

....charting my own course.
Come aboard!

Ah, One from the Vault. My…

Ah, One from the Vault. My roommate had that back in the day. I got Two. Never managed to pick up my own copy of One. Used to love that. That period was so mellow and sublime. Easin' back into it. I'd have to go plug in to my external drives to see which things I DO have, but it's a lovely breezy Saturday afternoon, and I don't feel like sitting at my desk.

This is goin' back back back, way back in the pick list, but I just noticed that the top page says Dave's Picks 38 "Now Available", but you click and it's sold out, as otherwise expected. Any guesses why don't they offer a download edition?

RE: If the world peace meeting goes bad, end with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore. Too funny!
As much as people say Day Job was hated, I was just listening to 4/13/84 (still!) the other day and the audience is totally singing along joyfully with the refrain.

RE: "The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. " Note taken!

"5/21 Anything." That's an easy order to fill. :)

so, how about 5/15/77??

Way way back in the day, in August 1982 to be (somewhat) exact, following the Alpine shows, I got an audience snippet of a show that to this day blows all (my) doors off. St Louis Arena, 5/15/77 --- St. Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. First Iko!! into ripping NFA. Love this Set II closing sequence, love it love it to this day. Years later discover that it was taped by Steve Maizner. Thank you Steve.

I'm a big fan of the transportive audience, the one that places you "there". For naive me, this was the real deal and still is. To quote Ken Nordine in Eugene '93 - you are the cinematographer. First yelps and yells and shouts of joy on recognition of Stephen. Bob and Donna on the Daydream climax. My freaking God.

Linking the start of that "snippet" here: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=91094.

Whole show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15?source=91094. Its got a Jack a Roe :)

Of course - we've all (hopefully) got the May '77 board to listen to.

Spun 5/11 St Paul - another great May '77 show out of the Midwest. A favorite Scarlet > Fire. Currently Disc 2 of Daves 16 Springfield in the ride. Sounds divine. Plus Buffalo 5/9, good god Help opener (GOAT?) and comes A Time, though 5/8 still is the desert Island for me of the 2 if I got to choose. And back in the old times (last month), the whole Fillmore East April '71 run, plus Bill Graham's (Ratners??) ramble-on interview (which I loved). All that a first for me. For all the years I've seen that set list with the Beach Boys, hearing that show for the first time was something else. Pluses and minuses - ultimately a tough trade off I think.

Another bit of personal history. The friend who scored me the ticket to my first show (2/3/78) was from St. Louis and his older brother, who actually bought the 2/3 tickets, was a long time head who was at 5/15 and I think a whole f*ck ton of other St Louis shows going back who knows how many years. So yeah this show got me in the door in some fashion and made me who I am today :) That plus another visit to the Henry Mountains. Plus some Odell Sippin' Pretty.

Here in Spirit, if not posting presence, day to day.

Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

5.15

I will try and fit it in. It's a beautiful day here, lots to do.. and good tunes to see me through.

Have a great weekend all.. be good and be kind.

5/15/77

St. Louis! Alright. Tuscaloosa might be next. I think that show might be a notch above.

Be well.

Gotta hear that summer 78 box

I have had a bunch of other stuff in the on deck circle for a while

3 31 73 today
and
8 25 72

I need more GD time!!!!!!!!!!

Rockthing

check your PM's

so, yes, 5/15/77

not to belabor a point but 5/15 is an off the hook show. been to the well time and time and time again the past 2 days (I've got my reasons) - Maizner audience, Sir Mick Matrix, Jay Ashley Bertha SBD remaster, HDCD discs from the first round of May shows. yeah I'm sort of obsessed. All excellent and bringing their own flavor. But if anyone is so inclined to go the audience route, put on the Sennheisers (or whatever you got) and listen to the Maizner pull on the Set II closer of St Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. Real deal, pure gold - trust me. And probably stick around for that Uncle Johns encore too :)

cued up 24 bit at relisten - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=90900

5/15/77

I've been waiting for the right time to hear disc three.

eventually..............

5/15/77

That show is impeccably tight. The one issue I have if there is one is they forgot to finish off the St.Stephen.

Tuscaloosa AL

I have this show going now. Love these early versions of Jack A Roe.

5/17/77!

I say...

my potd is 8/2/76

started it the other day

disc three...I arrived at work after the lead section of PITB. The jam awaits after work...

In the immortal words of Flounder in Animal House:

"oh boy, is this great!!!"

Palate Cleanse Perhaps?

This one's way off the beaten path.

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I hear banjo music...

Playing hooky from work today. An adventure is in order. (Don't tell my boss)

PITB

I like how that linked right to PITB Jimbo!

I'm in.

As soon as I finish this 6/8/92.
Show popped up on GDHour today, and Gans said his pal Charlie Miller mentioned that he thought this was possibly the best show of 1992.
Couldn't pass up that kinda feedback from those two bros and had to give it the once over.
the jam out of Crazy Fingers sure has some nice sparkle.
Not too shabby dabby do if I do say so myself.

Alright, onward.
Happy Hump Day!

PS - Missed 5/18/72 yesterday, but gonna try and fit that in somewhere too. It's a good problem to have :)

4/10/83

I am going to check it out Jim. Thanks.

92

Not sure if I’ve heard 6/8 before, but I was at 6/25,26 and they were pretty good.

4/10/83

Took a crack at this show Jim. I wasn't able to find a decent version through Relisten.

Decided to go with 4/2/90 today from the Omni. Check it out if have not in a while.

Would love to have some information on that box leak.

Morgantown '83

There was only one soundboard on archive.org (what I listened to):

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I think there is an audience patch for the first minute or so then it settled into a nice sounding board.

I don't do relisten much but this might be the same version???
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/04/10/friend-of-the-devil?sourc…

Path Beaten...

4/10/83 ✔️ Soundboard, shmoundboard, I listened to a good aud and dug it. Show has good energy and was a nice change up, haven’t done any 83 in a while, but been drawn there lately. Did 4/13/83 too. ✔️ Went with a decent HS matrix, but I enjoyed the show and the aud from 4/10 better.
Hit up 9/2/83 ✔️ the other day. Another good show that suffers from the recording...
Might go with more of this tour? Was at 4/12 & 15 on the rail both nights, big history with 4/12.
Have/have had parts of the meadowlands shows, so not sure where I’ll go?