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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6841
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    I really enjoyed revisiting this release today. I remember having some mixed feelings about it when it came out, but today it sounded fresh! I've always loved that "Sugaree", and the whole 3rd disc is pure Spring of 77 butter.

    Good pick!

    Peace

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    Thanks for all the great reviews of this show. I now know I will be stuck re-listening to this show for the next couple of weeks. That's the way this thread has worked for me. I can't always keep up with the daily schedule but I've gained a whole new appreciation for some shows, namely, the 2 DP #18 shows(2/3&5/78), DP#5 (12/26/79), the Cow12/31/76. It's just been taking me a couple of weeks to grok each pick. Thanks to everyone for contributing. This thread has been one of the few highlights of this lockdown!

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    Thank You Mr. Garcia!

    Yesterday's 10/12/68 pick definitely took me places.

    Places I'd been before, and new places as well.

    As said here by others, some really wonderful stuff going on throughout this magical show as the band jettisons into a new universe & explores the improvisational music cosmos.

    By October '68 Dark Star has begun to grow larger wings, but it's still a baby bird that will take flight and leave the nest soon. Of note in this version is Bear's recording (I believe) and Mickey's playing of the "Scratcher". It sounds as though Mickey's walking around on stage while he plays, at least that's how it sounds with Headphones, the instrument is truly circling around your head in this recording. How bad ass is that? And this is a bootleg from over 50 years ago!

    However, while Dark Star is just beginning to really gain strength in it's legs, St. Stephen is Standing Proud & Tall and has possibly reached it's greatest height, this is an almost absolutely perfect version of the song, and if you listen to some of the earlier versions from the summer of that year ('68 mystery reels come to mind, possibly from Carousel June '68), it's some amazing growth that this song has gone through in appx 4 months! The audience already loves this song as evident when you put on 9/2/68, within the first notes on that version the crowd starts getting so excited it throws the band off with surprise. St. Stephen, with it's William Tell Bridge, will continue to be this height for a little while longer, but will begin to diminish and shrink with age in the following year. I'm not sure it ever gets much higher than this version.

    That brings us to The Eleven, I think Bolo says it best, this version can convert a non-believer. So imagine what it does to all of us already at the church. This is an absolute ripping version of the song and all the long months of rehearsal are truly evident when you listen to the effortlessness of which they throw this song down.

    And to complete the suite they seg seamlessly into a sultry Death Don’t. Listen to Jerry sing during Death Don't, man could that guy sing a song with emotion. People would criticize that voice, but I always thought it was the most wonderful voice of all ;)

    Oh... and there's a Set 2!!!

    Which just absolutely shreds your face off, if it was still left, hanging there by a thread.

    This is manic air guitar, give you the chills, tears in your eyes, shake your head in wonder stuff here people!! I want to hear it again, and again and again!

    So like I said, it took me places, I dived deep into some '68 after this 10/12 relisten, I had to hear the next night 10/13/68 SBD (not as good, but see for yourself), 10/20/68 30 Trips release (check the difference between the Dark Star’s), and 9/2/68 (interesting recording, I need to check back on this, my mind was melted at this point and life distracted me).

    What a Trip!

    And like mentioned here, this was all during a time when Pigpen & Bobby were on thin ice and "fired" from the band.
    Fascinating.

    I believe a ’68 release or box set was mentioned, it’s hard to think that we’ll get one based on what exists (appx 37 shows / fragments) and quite a few have been released. Sadly most of Summer ’68 is a black hole, as well as the touring at the end of the year. There are definitely shows that were recorded that we don’t have, whether or not they still exist or not is a bigger question, I know Bear recorded more than we have especially in regard to the later part of the year, but for now the trail stops there and I’m afraid it is a bit cold…

    That all being said, if there was a ’68 box style release I’d vote for The Quick And The Dead tour in January - Feb ’68. Always loved that stuff, it’d be repetitive and have some warts and all feel, but shit I love it.

    Love to hear thoughts on what you all would see as potentially release worthy. This 10/12/68 show should be a definite consideration.. if they can make it sound even better I’ll be the first to drop down some cash to get it!

    You’re still here?? Crazy kids..

    After I came to earth from that I continued our little Cal Expo ’90 relisten and loved it too. I think 6/10/90 is my favorite show from the run, but you know Playing In The Band usually makes me say that. The Jack Straw is definitely worth listening too. And Phil saying he’s not gonna quit the band and it’s all a bullshit lie, with Jerry saying yeah, the rest of us are, well.. that’s priceless.

    What’re we gonna listen to today?

    Edit: 5/28/77 you say... looks promising and it's been awhile.

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    What's on tap for today gents?

    FourWinds, where are you?

    I might check out 5/28/77, the last night of the Spring Tour. To Terrapin Release from 2007.

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    1968 - you're fired!

    This was the year that drew me in. Back in the 70s, I had heard a few albums by the Dead, but it was only after I heard Anthem that it all clicked into place. After getting into that one, all the others started to make sense.

    Incidentally, it was in October, as I understand it, that Pigpen and Bob were...strange as it may now seem...sacked. And those Mickey and the Hartbeat shows were played between October and December, without either of them in attendance. I used to think that was why Pigpen didn't play on 10/12/68. But I could clearly be wrong - both he and Bob played a lot of shows with the Dead during the same period as the Mickey and the Hartbeat shows.

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    Right on Bolo!

    I have several buddies that still refer to it as pots and pans.
    They clearly don't get it.

    So much unbelievable music! Still can't explain it to even family members.

    But every day, I still want to listen to the treasuries we have.

    More to come.

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    ....been Relistening for a while. Cool app. The right side sidebar lets you pick the source. Less clunky than the archive for sure. Sacrilege? Maybe.
    10.12.68? I was five months old. Bring it to my diapers!!

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    Here's the thing...

    Today's pick was recorded over 50 years ago - half a century. In 5 decades, no other music created since then comes anywhere close to what I heard today. Normally, I'd probably add "IMHO" to the end of that last sentence. Not this time - it's an indisputable fact.

    I had a non-head musician friend years ago question my over-the-top enthusiasm for the Dead, saying they were slow and sloppy, couldn't rock out, Garcia just "noodles" aimlessly, etc. In other words, the usual misinformed opinions we've all heard and read before.

    I played "The Eleven" from this show for him on a really good sound system, sat back and watched his face morph from surprise to disbelief to joy and wonder. He was literally speechless for a good chunk of time before the expected "WOW" passed his lips. An instant convert! He still blames me for his "incurable disease" on a regular basis.

    Gollum mentioned the drums. While one can intelligently debate the one- vs. two-drummer format from 1975 on, there is probably little dissension regarding the irreplaceable impact of Billy and Mickey abusing their instruments during the"primal" period. The whole band was a flat-out juggernaut during that time and the two drummers had a lot to do with that.

    What a band. So grateful that we here all "get it."

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    The "Jam" before Feedback is cool - starts off in "Other One" territory, then moves to something totally original, then gets very close to "Caution" - I bet they would have gone there if Pig hadn't been missing.

    Feedback... and, goodnight!

    Does anyone know if the "Morning Dew" that starts the set on this recording (at least the one that Bolo posted) is from this show? It doesn't seem to be on the setlist.

    On to Cal Expo!

    Peace

    EDIT: It looks like "Dew" was the opener, but for some reason it was left off the set list.

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    Great show! I don't think I've listened to this in its entirety before. This is also my first time trying the Relisten app -(how nice!) I love the separation of the drummers in this music.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by billy the kid on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 16:32

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Anthem of the Sun, Workingman's Dead, blues music, great bbq, and lots of ice cold beer, the world is always a better place.

To achieve a peace accord the psychedelics would have to be required, and more than 30 minutes of music would probably be needed. But each country could throw out 10 minutes of music (as part of Set 1), then the GD Nation would get Set 2 for 60 min.
I would end it with 5-8-77 Morning Dew.
Somewhere before that a China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider would also be needed. Probably one from E72 since European dignitaries would be present.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 18:53

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The 2021 Camp David Pop Festival. Electrify Camp David.

If we dosed them.. 2.14.68 or Live Dead? After 30 min they will either beg for more or politely ask for a straight jacket and a padded room, the exception might be Kim Jong Un, who will likely ask for a pack of smokes and access to some good American porn.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 06:01

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Dark Star, after this 43 min blowout, they would have to regroup and sue for peace.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 07:00

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Although a mind-bending Dark Star sounds good to the experienced, I think it would only take one freak out and nukes would start flying.
Better to ease it in.

So,
start off with Peggy-O (Jim’s choice).

Followed up with a smokin’ China->Rider. Although I previously said a 72, I’m thinking that the situation calls for a 74 with the extra jammy transition.
Now the dignitaries are all up and dancing, with big grins that they can’t wipe off their face.

Time for some grease!
Good Lovin’ or Lovelight with Pigpen on full display.
Now the dignitaries are all happy and hugging.

Follow up with Help/Slip/Franklin’s.
Putin is twirling so fast the sweat is flying off his bare chest.

Now bring them back to earth with Morning Dew.

Who knew that achieving world peace could be so easy. It just takes the Good Ole Grateful Dead and some psychedelics.

Or is it whirled peas?

Almost as soon as I made this post last night.. a 1937 Rolls-Royce Phantom III Sedanca de Ville appeared and parked in front of my house. It really stands out in my neighborhood and people have begun to take notice. It came with an immaculately dressed, elderly Korean man wearing a top hat of all things. License plate reads ODDJOB.

Weird. He gets wigged out easily, got really pissed when I called him Random Task for example.

One caution regarding an incendiary Morning Dew. The song is about nuclear fallout that kills all of humanity. Might save that until after disarmament. Has anyone out there seen the 1959 movie On The Beach which? It inspired the young Ms. Dobson to write the song. A pretty cool flick and it gives you some insight to what inspired the lyrics. Her original version has some haunting vocals that provide, in a sense, some of the same emotional content and feelings of hopeless despair that Jerry brings in his voice and guitar.

Edit: More accurately stated, Jerry brought some of the same emotional content via guitar and vocals as the haunting vocals on Bonnie Dobson original recording. Both send chills up my spine.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 10:53

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The meeting should start with Morning Dew to show how bad things could be.
Then pull them out of despair with a rockin’ Shakedown.

If the negotiations fail then end the meeting with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 11:25

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My favorite is still 12/31/76 - NYE Cow Palace. We were there with several college friends, mostly non-heads. The whole night was full of synchronicity for us - almost magical. More on that another time.

During MD, everyone around us was completely silent, just soaking it all in. A girl with our group whom I didn't know turned to me at the end of the song, tears streaming down her face. She didn't understand why she was crying and asked me what the song was about. When I told her, she put her head on my shoulder and just sobbed. Looking around the folks near us, she wasn't the only one moved to tears. Powerful performance - stunning, really.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 16:20

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Helps to live in the Bay Area - no shortage of GD/JGB/Kingfish/etc. shows here, back in the day

He does a great Kissinger.

I'm pretty sure I discussed this on these threads.. but I had an airplane seat next to Mr. Kissinger 15 or 18 years ago, give or take. What a trip that was... Franken nailed it. The voice.. classic. And an avid taper. Dammit Henry, give me that tape, I'm gonna erase it right now.....

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 05/11/2021 - 21:10

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5/11 at such a late hour. Starting at Scarlet Fire, will hit the highlights of set I after. Work tomorrow will not start at 8 am.

Edit: It's got a Peggy-O

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 04:43

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Has anyone ever brought that show up yet?

If it were me, from '82 it'd be a good recording of Red Rocks 7/28. :-)

Have a Grateful Day all...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 06:31

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@WTJ as far as I can tell, May 1982 hasn't come up.
I thought the greek shows had been discussed, but.. if so I didn't write it down, I guess.
5/21/82 looks fun.

5/11/72 - still working through this puppy. Fun stuff. Pigpen's organ on Good Lovin' is super tasty. Pig must've been feeling pretty good this night, 7 tunes and some nice organ playing.

5/11/77 - Shiz, been diggin' May '77 since the 5/8 anniversary. But I missed this yesterday.. so, gonna try and remedy that. BTW really great liner notes in that May 77 2013 box set. Steve Silberman & Blair's takes on stuff, especially jaded Heads, will give you a chuckle, highly recommended.

And @JiminMD I forgot about that Kissinger story, classic. Ted Koppel tells the funniest Kissinger story I've ever heard to Johnny Carson in his final month hosting the Tonight Show. Makes me laugh out loud every time I've seen it. I can't do it justice, but let's just say Ted Koppel had a great sense of humor.

Good stuff all.

BTW @WTJ what's the MaryE connection to 5/21/82?

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 05/12/2021 - 20:07

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Pretty sure she has memorized the transition to UJB so much so that she can sing it. Overall she is also an undervalued writer and dead denizen, as many props as she gets here. Hope ya had fun today all. I know I did! :-) Not too shabby for a Wed.

-edit- https://www.dead.net/show/may-21-1982

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 08:17

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another one of my earliest shows on cassette

I listened to it recently

magnificent show

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 13:23

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Yeah, that 5/21 show is sweet, nice call!
I kinda want to listen to the whole run now.
But I think I like this first night the best, so nice and spacey.

And the MaryE connection puts it over the top!

+1 on props to MaryE.
Mary's interview with Robert Hunter is amazing.
Highly recommended.

Alright, gonna listen to parts of 5/11/72 again.. cause it's just that good.

What's the pick anyhow?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 17:52

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I'm still working my way through 12/31/76.. but I am slow this week. Too many distractions this week.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 20:14

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Let's keep it going Jim. The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. My favorite around and around.

How do you all feel about hitting 8/13/75 tomorrow?

Oh, and where is that box announcement? 15 months and counting.

Stay well folks.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 20:32

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The one that blew us all away in the day. I had an embarrassingly hissy cassette that I thought sounded great and loved labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." One From the Vault floored me when it hit the streets.. was that 1993? Or earlier? What an upgrade. I love the Bill Graham intro, which I believe might have been truncated either on the old cassette I used to have or on the release.. or maybe I've got this confused with another B. G. Intro. After a while it all rolls into one. I seem to recall they truncated this on the official release, but I might be wrong.

So a rocker and a classic... well, it's Friday.

"Good evening.. we welcome you. On behalf of the group..." I hope Bill is looking down and laughing at us right now.. I do miss him, what a great promoter.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 21:33

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Jim, if you can believe it was 91, 30 years ago. I still have my original copy and two years ago I picked up a remastered version they released in 2007 and it was a big upgrade in sound quality. Let me know if you don't have the 2007 release.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/13/2021 - 21:38

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..but I am not completely sure which version I ripped.

I guess I will have to re-rip the version from the new box. Thanks Vikes.. I will make sure I have the remastered version in my library to listen to manyatta.

Ah, One from the Vault. My roommate had that back in the day. I got Two. Never managed to pick up my own copy of One. Used to love that. That period was so mellow and sublime. Easin' back into it. I'd have to go plug in to my external drives to see which things I DO have, but it's a lovely breezy Saturday afternoon, and I don't feel like sitting at my desk.

This is goin' back back back, way back in the pick list, but I just noticed that the top page says Dave's Picks 38 "Now Available", but you click and it's sold out, as otherwise expected. Any guesses why don't they offer a download edition?

RE: If the world peace meeting goes bad, end with Throwing Stones and a Day Job encore. Too funny!
As much as people say Day Job was hated, I was just listening to 4/13/84 (still!) the other day and the audience is totally singing along joyfully with the refrain.

RE: "The St. Paul Civic Center 77 show still is hot. Cow Palace 76 rocks. " Note taken!

"5/21 Anything." That's an easy order to fill. :)

Way way back in the day, in August 1982 to be (somewhat) exact, following the Alpine shows, I got an audience snippet of a show that to this day blows all (my) doors off. St Louis Arena, 5/15/77 --- St. Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. First Iko!! into ripping NFA. Love this Set II closing sequence, love it love it to this day. Years later discover that it was taped by Steve Maizner. Thank you Steve.

I'm a big fan of the transportive audience, the one that places you "there". For naive me, this was the real deal and still is. To quote Ken Nordine in Eugene '93 - you are the cinematographer. First yelps and yells and shouts of joy on recognition of Stephen. Bob and Donna on the Daydream climax. My freaking God.

Linking the start of that "snippet" here: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=91094.

Whole show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15?source=91094. Its got a Jack a Roe :)

Of course - we've all (hopefully) got the May '77 board to listen to.

Spun 5/11 St Paul - another great May '77 show out of the Midwest. A favorite Scarlet > Fire. Currently Disc 2 of Daves 16 Springfield in the ride. Sounds divine. Plus Buffalo 5/9, good god Help opener (GOAT?) and comes A Time, though 5/8 still is the desert Island for me of the 2 if I got to choose. And back in the old times (last month), the whole Fillmore East April '71 run, plus Bill Graham's (Ratners??) ramble-on interview (which I loved). All that a first for me. For all the years I've seen that set list with the Beach Boys, hearing that show for the first time was something else. Pluses and minuses - ultimately a tough trade off I think.

Another bit of personal history. The friend who scored me the ticket to my first show (2/3/78) was from St. Louis and his older brother, who actually bought the 2/3 tickets, was a long time head who was at 5/15 and I think a whole f*ck ton of other St Louis shows going back who knows how many years. So yeah this show got me in the door in some fashion and made me who I am today :) That plus another visit to the Henry Mountains. Plus some Odell Sippin' Pretty.

Here in Spirit, if not posting presence, day to day.

Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

I will try and fit it in. It's a beautiful day here, lots to do.. and good tunes to see me through.

Have a great weekend all.. be good and be kind.

St. Louis! Alright. Tuscaloosa might be next. I think that show might be a notch above.

Be well.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 05/15/2021 - 16:07

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I have had a bunch of other stuff in the on deck circle for a while

3 31 73 today
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8 25 72

I need more GD time!!!!!!!!!!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 05/16/2021 - 12:35

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not to belabor a point but 5/15 is an off the hook show. been to the well time and time and time again the past 2 days (I've got my reasons) - Maizner audience, Sir Mick Matrix, Jay Ashley Bertha SBD remaster, HDCD discs from the first round of May shows. yeah I'm sort of obsessed. All excellent and bringing their own flavor. But if anyone is so inclined to go the audience route, put on the Sennheisers (or whatever you got) and listen to the Maizner pull on the Set II closer of St Stephen > Iko > Not Fade Away > Sugar Magnolia. Real deal, pure gold - trust me. And probably stick around for that Uncle Johns encore too :)

cued up 24 bit at relisten - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/05/15/saint-stephen?source=90900

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 08:47

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I've been waiting for the right time to hear disc three.

eventually..............

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 09:34

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That show is impeccably tight. The one issue I have if there is one is they forgot to finish off the St.Stephen.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 05/17/2021 - 13:58

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I have this show going now. Love these early versions of Jack A Roe.

5/17/77!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/18/2021 - 08:40

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my potd is 8/2/76

started it the other day

disc three...I arrived at work after the lead section of PITB. The jam awaits after work...

In the immortal words of Flounder in Animal House:

"oh boy, is this great!!!"

I like how that linked right to PITB Jimbo!

I'm in.

As soon as I finish this 6/8/92.
Show popped up on GDHour today, and Gans said his pal Charlie Miller mentioned that he thought this was possibly the best show of 1992.
Couldn't pass up that kinda feedback from those two bros and had to give it the once over.
the jam out of Crazy Fingers sure has some nice sparkle.
Not too shabby dabby do if I do say so myself.

Alright, onward.
Happy Hump Day!

PS - Missed 5/18/72 yesterday, but gonna try and fit that in somewhere too. It's a good problem to have :)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 05/19/2021 - 10:26

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I am going to check it out Jim. Thanks.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 05/19/2021 - 16:41

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Not sure if I’ve heard 6/8 before, but I was at 6/25,26 and they were pretty good.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/20/2021 - 11:30

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Took a crack at this show Jim. I wasn't able to find a decent version through Relisten.

Decided to go with 4/2/90 today from the Omni. Check it out if have not in a while.

Would love to have some information on that box leak.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 05/20/2021 - 13:15

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There was only one soundboard on archive.org (what I listened to):

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-10.sbd.harrell.16579.sbeok.shnf/gd8…

I think there is an audience patch for the first minute or so then it settled into a nice sounding board.

I don't do relisten much but this might be the same version???
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/04/10/friend-of-the-devil?sourc…

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 05/21/2021 - 08:03

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4/10/83 ✔️ Soundboard, shmoundboard, I listened to a good aud and dug it. Show has good energy and was a nice change up, haven’t done any 83 in a while, but been drawn there lately. Did 4/13/83 too. ✔️ Went with a decent HS matrix, but I enjoyed the show and the aud from 4/10 better.
Hit up 9/2/83 ✔️ the other day. Another good show that suffers from the recording...
Might go with more of this tour? Was at 4/12 & 15 on the rail both nights, big history with 4/12.
Have/have had parts of the meadowlands shows, so not sure where I’ll go?