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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • alvarhanso
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    Who Summer '72 boots, Miami '74, etc.

    I have several liberated bootlegs of The Who in Summer '72, of course not clean SBDs like we have with the Dead stuff, but most are quite listenable. (A variable term for sure, depends on one's experience listening to hissy audience tapes, but there are definitely decent ones to be found.) And I like collecting them to get those sort of tunes that they played with Moon for very brief periods. Who boots will vary from awful to great, you just gotta poke around.

    If I had a Mt Rushmore of Dead shows, 6/23/74 just about makes it on mine. Maybe not the best show from the Wall of Sound era, but to my ears, it is by far the best sounding tape of that era. Jerry's picks are all a little odder than usual, but all are perfectly chosen. The Ship of Fools (and it's intro Jam) is a fantastic way to get back from the weirdness of Seastones. And that Dark Star> Spanish Jam> US Blues is just magnificent.

    And to the post about the actual Mt Rushmore and FDR over Teddy: we wouldn't have had any sort of President like FDR without TR. We'd likely still be a smallish country with no great impact on the world without Teddy. Similarly, one could say the same of Cornell or Veneta or 2/14/70, because for a lot of people the tapes of legendary shows introduced them to the wonderful music and led to the discovery of the bounties awaiting the collector of more tapes. Those shows may not endure as favorites, but they are still signposts to a new space, to steal a title from a Jerry interview/book. And if I were to switch out a face on Mt Rushmore, it would def be Jefferson for Madison. (In keeping with ones who had served by the end of construction.)

    If I have to choose 4:
    11/8/70 (so wish there was a SBD of this one)
    5/7/72 (just bc Dark Star & The Other One)
    6/23/74
    5/8/77 (my George Washington, where it started for me)

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    I've always had an eye for the oddities in life.....

    Yo! Rockers!!

    “We’re tuning up a little bit for you folks, make it sound better cuz nothing’s too good for you………”

    12/2/71, it's a bit of an oddity. One of only two 71 shows with both Brokedown Palace and Black Peter. The only 71 show with both a Smokestack Lightning and a Lovelight. And unusual for 71 in that it didn't have a Truckin', Good Lovin', The Other One, or Dark Star........

    Back in the very early years of my crazy tape trading daze this was one of the first “local Dead show recordings” I had, so it has a special place in my Grateful Dead heart of hearts. It never seemed like the greatest Dead show ever, yet I still treasured it then---AND now.

    Think I'll listen to it on my way to work.......

    Rock on, my friends!

    Doc
    Odd how the creative power at once brings the whole universe to order......

  • Vguy72
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    I went with the '74 Miami show.....

    ....you know. The one with the best segue from Dark Star into US Blues I have ever heard.
    Majestic....
    I learned to duck

  • KeithFan2112
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    Gratefulgerd - I looked up the set list for your 8/11/72 Who show. That must have been incredible - I would love to hear Relay and Long Live Rock with the gang in their live prime. Those two songs were freshly written at the time, and then quickly dropped from the set list. I doubt any relreasable tapes exist of the '72 tour you saw, but I found a decent YouTube show from later in the month with the same set list. Good stuff.

    Proudfoot - I checked out your 12/2/71 recommendation. Some hot spots in there. I like those late '71 Smokestack Lightnings with Keith in the mix. The piano suits that song. Brokedown Palace is nice - they nail the vocals at the end, which is always the icing on the cake. Also like this UJB. Solid version and Phil really nails the backing vocal on the "crow told me" verse. He used to sing some cool parts in those early days.

    Also checking out other December 1971 shows after Doc's 12/14 recommendation. Currently listening to DaP 22 at the Felt 12/7. After Tennessee Jed someone in the crowd hollers out "St. Fucking Stephen!" and Jerry impatiently responds with "Aw, Fuck your own St. Stephen!" So glad they leave the stage banter in these releases. These guys sounded like they had a LOT of fun at work. What a way to spend your life.

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    :)))

  • daverock
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    Keithfan - yes, thanks, I'll bear your comments in mind next time I listen. I will try the two El Paso's, and look out for the contrast.
    I should say that my immersion in Dicks 36-9/21/72 - has been stimulated by its release on vinyl, and that's the version I listen to now. It sounds amazing to my battle worn ears-but I haven't compared it to the cd version. Price it cost, I'm a bit scared to!

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    Hi Daverock. Yeah, that was a tough choice, DP 23 over DP 36. They have very similar set lists. If I had to choose between one or the other to bring as the only Dead CD to the desert island with the coconut rum and bikini women, I would go with DP 36, based on the Dark Star, Wharf Rat, and Morning Dew. I'm not sure which Bird Song I prefer; maybe I'll put that to the test later. But anyway,
    I like the performances and the recording of DP 23 more. Jerry is consistently loud throughout DP 23. On DP 36 he's certainly not low, but he tends to get washed out a bit when the whole band is playing and he's not swinging away at chords. You can hear what I mean for example with El Paso. If you compare the first minute of DP 23 to DP 36, you can hear Jerry loud and clear on 23 when he's doing all of that cool picking; meanwhile he gets buried by the band on 36. I also hear more flashes of brilliant playing from Jerry on 23. Another thing about DP 23 is the backing vocals sound better to me in a lot of places, like they're "blended" together more evenly. And then there's the monster 40 minute Other One - lots of great jamming here, and they almost jam out The Eleven at one point (Jerry starts it but nobody hops onboard).

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    anybody home?
    5 day sale…

    anybody home?

    5 day sale sign is still on web after a week?

    no box set announcement? No dave's picks announcement?

    is anyone there?

  • Gary Farseer
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    Heavy Metal

    Did it, done it, occasionally revisit for nostalgia. I worked at the movie theater when Heavy Metal came out. Never watched the whole thing thru but saw all of the scenes in pieces. I have the Movie recorded on my DVR. Maybe today will be the day I revisit it. May try to watch twice before I erase it. If memory serves there were some other rock bands I uncertainly wouldn't call heavy metal. Let's see, Journey and Donald Fagan and others on there should never been associated with heavy metal.

    So I started thinking about it. I had written the first paragraph about 5 hours ago. Thinking about metal and some concerts I saw, when I started thinking about Judas Priest. I remember wow it was 1981 when I first saw them. Then it hit me that it was in summer July or August. I have the ticket but chose not to go digging through stuff. I check and 40 years ago right now, this music freak was preparing to go see Judas Priest, with Whitesnake opening and then Iron Maiden, at the Fox theater in Atlanta. Drove into town and heard the concert announcement on the rock radio station the night before. During afternoon next day went down the Fox Box Office and scored tics. Went back to room to chill out. Headed down to the show. All three of the bands were completely known to us. I had copies of British Steele and Point of Entry by Priest. I also had Iron Maiden Killers, and this was on the Killers tour, as well as their first album. Hard to believe 40 years went by like that. It was a true heavy metal concert. Well Whitesnake at this point was a heavier blues unit in the Zep and Purple line of hard rock. But damn did both Maiden and Priest drive that place hard. BTW, Maiden was the original maiden before Dickinson and the second drummer.

    Any way within 12 months I was clearly leaving metal behind and casting my gaze elsewhere.

  • gratefulgerd
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    saw them in Frankfurt, August 11, 1972.
    Wow, the loudest band I've ever heard in concert, indoor Festhalle Frankfurt.
    I mean extreme loud!!!!
    My biggest mistake in '72: I could've seen the Dead in April, 26, Jahrhunderthalle.
    But I didn't. Why?
    Too young and to far away from what was really going on in the international music scene.
    Simply said, I didn't know GD.
    On May 2nd in 1972 I saw John Mayall, at the same location, Jahrhunderthalle Frankfurt.
    Great show, wouldn't mind to trade it for a show a week earlier.
    Life happens

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Carlo, if I had a nickel for every time I thought I heard the show starting, only to find out it was someone's car stereo in the parking lot, well, I could afford 3/10 of 1% of a Dead & Co. ticket. :)

Just last weekend I was at someone's patio party, and they had hooked up a sound system outside for dancing later (all attendees have been vaccinated), and at some point when the music had run out, I went over and cued up all kinds of ABBA; they're always a crowd-pleaser, and definitely one of my guilty pleasures, kind of like a feminine KISS.

I haven't made it to the show from the 8th yet, but thought that the bonus material from the 7th was really top-notch.

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9/30/76

7/17/82

Listen to those without looking at the setlists

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....I would pay top dollar for that double bill. Seriously.
Vegas kicking some Wild ass.
Scored a PS5 and Vegas Phish tix yesterday on my birthday.
Looking for the Golden Knights to complete my circle around the sun trifecta.

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Nice list of birthday shows.... culminating with a hometown show.

05/21/74- Edmundson Pavilion - Seattle, WA
05/21/77- Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL
05/21/82- Greek Theater, University Of California - Berkeley, CA
05/21/92- Cal Expo Amphitheater - Sacramento, CA
05/21/93- Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA
05/21/95- Sam Boyd Silver Bowl - Las Vegas, NV

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Agree.. one celebrates what will become and the other reflects on what was.

These tours are very different yet very well matched.

I saw B.B.King live 4-5 times between about 1983 and 1990. The first time was one of the best gigs I have ever seen. I knew who he was, and had heard a couple of his 1970s albums, but nothing prepared me for the power and presence he had live. I was sitting right at the front, and was transfixed. Everyone I went with after that first occasion was similarly impressed. Apart from the guitar playing, singing and songs he seemed so warm and well meaning as a person. One of the best.

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Thats pretty decisive in hockey, eh?

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a few songs into that one

Several hours later...

Great, great, great show.

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As usual a day late and a dollar short.

JUST found this guy,,, like his sound and was VERY surprised I have none in The Collection.

Any huge fans out there that have everything and might want to do some horse trading?

Hit me up.

Thanks

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As regards BB King, I first saw him in 1969 when he opened for the Stones...also on the bill was Terry Reid and Ike & Tina Turner...two shows on 11-08-69 (my 19th Birthday BTW) at The Forum in Inglewood...I know every one raves (and rightly so) about "Live At The Regal" but my fave is "Live In Japan" done in '71....BB was a STINGING guitar player and had the best voice going...The last time I saw him was at a festival in Sedona AZ he headlined...even sitting in a chair he rocked the joint

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RFK 73

Box it, please, Dave.

May 73

Box it, please, Dave.

Fwiw...I have it on good authority (my own)...

The box announcement will occur on 6 8 21

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49 years. Bobby's greeting to the crowd at the first of four nights at the Lyceum. And then Jerry and Billy rip into one of the best Promised Lands. And it's Dark Star night.

Happy birthday Vguy!

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than taking the dog out to go to the bathroom with a 4-1 lead, only to return minutes later to find the game tied. The Oilers suck.

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I could have been worse..

For example if you had stayed to watch them tie it up, point by point absorbing more pent up aggravation.. and the dog noticing you had given up on him and could wait no longer.. finally relieving himself with much shame on the Persian carpet in the hallway. That would have been worse.

So at least the dog is happy.

Edit: ...or watched them until they lost without walking the dog. I'm with proudfoot on this one. I have my sports and my favorite teams.. it's great when they win but I try hard not to get too invested in it anymore. I remember Elaine's boyfriend on Seinfeld (Puddy??).. the one that painted his face and chest for each game. Just try not to be that person and all is good with the world, especially when they win.

This week in May has a lot of good memories for me...from a weekend at The Shrine Expo Hall in LA with the Dead, Steve Miller and Taj Mahal in'68 to the following year and attending the Santa Clara Pop Festival...I was spoiled...the best was on the third day of the Festival...Chuck Berry opened the show and Jimi closed...pretty much said it all to me at the time and it still does...The sad part of course is that from the group of five of us who drove up the coast (in a VW bug of course) from LA to San Jose only two of us are still around to annoy each other...Around that time was also the beginning of fun and games with the SSS and the government in general for the next couple of years...haha fooled you bureaucratic nitwits, I'm still here...

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Nappy - yes, that is a great BB King live album. It has a lot more guitar playing on than is usually the case with his albums. Another good one is Blues Is King, from 1966 - although the cd I have of it doesn't sound too good. That must be one of the all time legendary tours, when you saw him with The Stones, Ike and Tina and Terry Reid.
I've seen Terry Reid live, too-superb singer. Apparently Jimmy Page's first choice for vocalist with Led Zeppelin.

I've been breaking in Dave's 38. I can't say its the best release from 1973 I've ever heard. In fact, apart from the fact that Dick Latvala told him it was a good show, it's hard to figure why he chose this show over other September 1973 ones. The following ones in Williamsburg look much more interesting. We get what we are given.

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THE greatest songwriter ever. Have a great one, Bob, and I hope, many more.

AJS - I don’t think the Samsonite Business Elite could fold as quickly and efficiently as your Oilers did last night. For all those who picked Connor McDavid in their playoff pools…

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5/24/72 - night two of the Lyceum run, but more notably, the anniversary of Pigpen's last Lovelight. It's my favorite. They streamline it down to a smooth 12 minutes that includes some Allman-like jamming, which was par for the course for Lovelight by '72; but unlike its two counterpart versions from the tour, they get into that great 'doot-doot-doo' melody at10:05. Pigpen's improvised lyrics over this quiet drumless guitar / bass melody are some of the best. Nothing about refrigerator repair men or pocket ball or legs-up-against the-wall. This one is....ahem....closer to the heart. Don't have that E72 show? No problem - it's on Rockin' the Rhein as well (bonus track). To Pigpen.

play Swans' Public Castration is a Good Idea at FULL volume

That lame-ass final play of Seahawks v (that football team in the northeastern region of this wacko nation)....just give the ball to Marshawn. "No, let's pass in tight quarters."

the Mariners got no-hit twice within two weeks or something...and have lost 20 in a row (wait, only 6 or 7)

Sports: BE GONE!!!

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right on dude, no worries - no pressure! Its a fun little course and provides for some excellent outdoor time, super casual. At your leisure! Shoot me a PM if you wish.

Oro - kiss your radio - don't think about, just DO IT!

And there is ALWAYS the possibility for the First Annual Hilltop Disc Golf Tourney, complte with a blaring GD soundtrack outside with multi-beverage stop offs and the like. A fine idea!

KF, glad you found that 6/6/70 jam to be something special. It is pretty hot, they cover a ton of ground in that one.

Enjoy Your Week People
Sixtus

At least I was not there to witness it. I would have thrown the remote through the TV screen. What's even worse, before I went upstairs to put the dog to bed, I told my daughter that while I was gone, the Oilers would lose. Then I hear my youngest yell, "the blue team scored." Damn dog.

Reminds me of the 2013 Leafs game 7 collapse against Boston. All those fans partying out there on Yonge Street thinking they are going on to the next round. 4-1 lead with 10 minutes to go in the game. Exact same outcome.

Sir James - the dog already took care of ruining our Persian rug. No need to wait around for that. Less than a month after we got her, I stepped in something warm and squishy with just my socks on. Looking down, I noticed two big piles. Thanks for that little puppy dog.

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About the Leafs big (and frequent) collapse. Now I have to cover all the mirrors in the hose again.

Just think Proudfoot - you will have the Kraken joining the NHL next season, and like most expansion teams (Vegas, excepted), you may be calling them the Krapen before too long.

For the golfer/disc golfers:

A golf club walks into a local bar and asks the barman for a pint of beer.
The barman refuses to serve him.
"Why not," asks the golf club.
"You'll be driving later," replies the bartender.

A Minster, Priest and Rabbi walk into a bar...
The bartender looks up and says "Is this some kind of joke?"

Glad to help out.

I actually like the Leafs. I've worn a Leafs jersey my entire adult life playing pick-up scrub hockey. In fact, we made the trip up to Maple Leaf Garden in 1993 when they played Gretzky and the L.A. Kings for the right to go to the Cup finals. Tickets were going for $900, so we went across the street to the local pub and partied it up with the locals. Great time.

However, as a long time Red Sox fan, I've learned how to deal with adversity in sports. Better to laugh it off. Like the Red Sox and Cubs, you will have your day in the sun. So hang in there. Until then, just remember the reason why the hockey Hall of Fame is in Toronto is so you guys can see the Stanley Cup.

Good luck against the Habs. I'll jump on board once the Oilers are eliminated tonight.

This is Canadaland's year.

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It could be our year here. I’ll miss the Leaf jokes, though. There’s always the Blue Jays or the Craptors, I guess…

Last one, honest:
An Irishman, Englishman and Scotsman go into a pub and each order a pint of Guinness.
Just as the bartender hands them over, three flies buzz down and one lands in each of the pints.
The Englishman looks disgusted, pushes his pint away and demands another pint.
The Scotsman picks out the fly, shrugs, and takes a long swallow.
The Irishman reaches in to the glass, pinches the fly between his fingers and shakes him while yelling, "Spit it out, ya bastard! Spit it out!"

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https://www.homethreads.com/products/rugs/safavieh-rugs/blg535m-blue-pi…

Found it while shopping for items for a bathroom remodel.

Here in MN, we all understand that other than the long-passed history of the Vikings in the four Super Bowls and the two Twins World Series victories, the teams will never win. Except the Lynx, who won a LOT not too long ago . . .

Ha, yer all a bunch of whiney rookies when it comes to losing! Lol
Try 4 super bowl losses, IN A ROW! and 2 Stanley Cups, one stolen!, and countless other championship games lost, or more accurately, handed over!
But hey, at least the Dead always played good there; )

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No need to tell me. Went to every Sabres game in the ‘99 conference finals against the Leafs and every Cup finals game against the Stars. We were 15 rows off the ice, right in front of where Brett Hull scored the “winning” goal while in the crease. It still hurts.

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....Tom Brady sux. That is all.
And if you are wondering why I think that, click my personal info page. Self explanatory.

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That Mike, some good jokes lately. I forget exactly what you said with the Jeff Norman joke but it was perfect timing. Something like I don't want to hear any trouble out of you.

KeithFan, I'm embarrassed to admit this but I usually skip over Turn on Your Lovelight. I just can't take a half hour! Even 20 minutes is a little rough. But I never like to ignore a strong recommendation from "the reguars" and you are absolutely balls on accurate about Rocking The Rhein. I never was able to get my hands on a copy of 5/24, but thankfully Dave put it on Rhein. I only know a few Allman songs, Jessica and everything from the Fillmore East box set. I hear the similarities in style. That is a great section in Lovelight at 10:05. I must have played it 10 ttimes!

Sorry you guys are having hockey woes. Cubs fan here. Long time Cubs fan.

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I have an odd way of listening to Lovelight. I usually get into the first 5 minutes and the fast forward to the last 5 minutes. By the way Keithfan, I am familiar with the "doot-doot-doo" part. It's hit or miss whether they play it, going back to even the 60s renditions. Therefore I am not surprised they skipped it a couple of time on the Europe tour. What did surprise me was they only played it 3x. I don't know that box set as well as I thought. If you asked me before today I would have said Pig alternated it with Good Lovin'. Shows you what I know (but I do have the original vinyl pressing of Europe '72). I listened to the 5/24 rendition per your instructions and it's a great through and through. Never again will I FF a 1972 Lovelight. Their jam approach is much different than previous years and I ask myself who was influencing who.

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That was the point of the Lovelight post, correct me if I'm wrong KF. A lot of us find it tedious just like you Proudfoot, but this one's different because it's shorter and has a sweet spot, and jams differently. Check it out

So on day two of the festival Jefferson Airplane were the headliner...but since hippies can't do shit right as far as orginization goes the show ran way way over...The Airplane had been on for about 20 minutes when the show went past curfew and the cops pulled the plug on it...the band and the crowd were pretty upset. a minor squabble broke out in front of the stage but overall not too bad and we all filed out...there was an athletic field next to the venue and people were allowed to camp there...back at our spot we partied with others until it was time to crash....a few hours later just before sunrise we were woken by loud noises coming from the baseball field...we went to investigate and there was a large flat bed truck with equipment set up on it and generators firing up for power and the frickin' Airplane did a show for us from the flatbed...amazing...one of the coolest things I ever witnessed...nearly 27 years later I was introduced to Jack Cassidy backstage at the first Furthur Tour stop in Phoenix...My pal that introduced me mentioned to Jack about that show and how I had been in attendence...he laughed and said that doing that gig was one of the nuttiest things they ever did...

As much as I loved Pig and seeing Lovelight live I can understand folks not being able to deal with the lenghty raps he laid on the crwod...but have you folks ever heard the edited version from Live Dead? It first appeared on an annual Warner Bros/Reprise Sampler that was usually a double LP and sold for like $2...each edition would have tunes from the label's roster and an edited seven minute version of Lovelight was included on the one titled "The Big Ball" from 1970....If I'm not mistaken the label ended up using that seven minute version on Skeletons From The Closet too...here's a good article on the Big Ball release
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I have a soft spot for them all. They, well to me at least.., are all very special.
But that's just me. Bickershaw is my favorite.. it just jams nonstop.. the transitional piece from Hundred Year Hall is really special, so I love that one too.. almost as much as Bickershaw. ..and I loved 5/25 on today's listen. I do not think any from the tour suffered from excessive rapping/noodling. They were powerful and went places without any wasted time.

I do get what people are saying, but I don't really hear it in April and May 1972.

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I saw Bobby Blue Bland close out the S.F. Blues Festival one year with Lovelight, it was really cool.

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My favourites are from Europe 1972, too. The one on Hundred Year Hall is the one I am most familiar with - great feel to it.
My least favourite are the ones that go on past the 15 minute mark-same goes for Good Lovin', for that matter. I like the idea of listening to the first and last 5 minutes of the 1969-1971 versions of Lovelight !
It was probably very different if you were hearing them live in the hall, as they were unfolding. As I've said before, there is a massive difference between what makes a great live concert and what makes a great recording of a live concert.

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Did you know, Don Robey, one of the “reputed” authors of “Turn On Your Love Light”, had a very shady reputation, and often published music he stole from writers, using the pseudonym DEADRIC Malone…
Truth is stranger than fiction.

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