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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #1351
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    Get a pair of the Dominator MX-10s. That will solve the problem.

  • #1352
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    Carlo,

    Ha!

    Man, we need a box announcement. How about tomorrow or today depending on your time zone. Let's get it out Thursday, May 20.

    And stop yelling out songs we already played tonight.

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    I remember once at a giant's stadium show, I meet this chick who offered me some mushroom tea and being new to this way of consuming shrooms, I sat in my car staring up at the ceiling and realizing I swigged too much. I then started to hear the show beginning but I waited it out till I could contain myself. I finally got out of the car feeling enough time had passed and realized that the music was only a boom box playing a dead tape next to my car. I felt like a total doorknob and never mentioned it to anyone till now.

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    It sounds to me like your bass cabinets are not tall enough. A standing bass wave is 17 meters in height.. you need bigger speakers, stacks of them, preferably able to play in quadraphonic.. one 17 meter stack for each string of the bass guitar.

    That is all. See my previous post on what measures to take to make this problem go away. Don't forget to destroy the credit card.

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    It's the tapes man...

    Great discussion going here. I can't resist getting drawn in with my own 2 cents.

    Caveat emptor - I am not an audio engineer or expert in such areas. I do listen to a lot of music and grateful dead shows.

    My two cents is the audio "distortions" that we have commented on here are in the source recordings of Sept 8 1973.

    Why do I think this?

    - Dick talked about releasing this show in the 90s and Dave says it's one of his favorite 73 shows, and it was just now released 20 some years later. If you've followed Dave for any length of time, you know that he doesn't release shows with lesser audio quality unless he really has to. He's also too good of a salesman to come out and say "we didn't release this until now because the tape has some issues. Jeffrey worked on it again and says it's as good as it's gonna get, so we're releasing it because it's A Tremendous Show"...Right?

    - Seems to me on any given night a recording of a grateful dead concert might not be perfect because those involved in making it were distracted - for any number of reasons.
    In the grand scheme of things, it's seems to me much less likely that we would end up with as many really good recordings as we have. They stopped caring about recordings for a lot of the 80s and a lot of those tapes don't have good audio - compared to a Betty board.

    - My experience with this release is that the recording of 9/8 sounds significantly different than 9/7.
    9/8 was indeed jarring when I first put it on.

    All that said, it really is a fantastic and unique show. I've been loving it. I listened to discs 2 and 3 at proper volume with some beverages last weekend and it knocked my socks off again.

    Just can't resist a good mystery.

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    I bow to my new sound technician overlord.
    What a fantastic and forensic analysis.
    Bravo.

    Sixtus

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    Nice work detective Oro

    Caveat emptor indeed needed

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    Sorry/thanks..

    I’ll go back to lurking now ; )
    GO AVs!

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    Caveat Emptor Indeed!

    DaP 38
    No doubt Mike, but I think some of us were concerned it was a production issue versus usual GOGD zits and all..
    But!,

    After furthur review, I think this is just a perfect storm of normal, smaller issues that combined can be very noticeable and thus annoying.
    I think perhaps this was a case of a great show, but not the best source? Perhaps the ravages of time were more than they considered, but bye the ticket...once committed, they had to see it through?

    Examples you say? Since I spent all day...
    $ = quick and dirty references if you don’t want the full report lol ; )
    BERTHA starts with usual opening idiosyncrasies that are not part of our focus except in how these “usual” suspects interact and combine with our target issues. Listen though to the snare, and eventually the Hi Hat (that shows up more later). Part of the problem is the snare wires resonating and bleeding through other mics. Then you throw in Bob who’s really loud. It seems his speakers must be set up in front of Billy somewhat as Bobs guitar seems to exasperate the snare problem...
    You can really hear this in the quiet just after the song when Bobs banging some chords, listen to the snare wire rattle etc! It gets better but I think it’s a reoccurring ingredient of this aural stew. Bobs level and distortion (both intended and otherwise) are another stew ingredient.
    Listen to both guitars and keys during the instrumental section. Think this is more normal type distortion but again, adds sometimes to the stew...

    ME & MY UNCLE: more of the same early in especially...I found it useful to use my balance control throughout and it’s often the right channel where the problems mostly live.
    By SUGAREE it sounds like maybe some kind of processing added for the snare issue? Early on not too bad, occasionally usual type moments of old R& R tape and/or guitar distortion, but around 6:18 you can hear some noise on the snare roll etc, by 6:23 through 6:33 you can get a good taste of the overall phenomena. But generally the song wasn’t bad.
    Status quo fir next couple, LL RAIN I seemed to notice the Hi Hat more prevalent and adding to and getting snare bleed etc. Made me think there’s something up with one of the Drum overhead mics? If so, bleed from everything! would exasperate an issue there? Perhaps another stew ingredient...Bob has some noticeable distortion, perhaps “normal” around 3:45 or so and 4:40+. It overall kind of kicks in on the end chorus’, but not too bad overall.
    JACK STRAW not so bad, a little somethin round 3:40 with snare/hat/cymbals?
    Also, I think this show suffers overall from the goofy custom condenser vocal mics that add to our stew. Listen to the end of Row J between the 8:30 and 9:00 mark...
    Let It Grow is overall not too bad. Get usual Phil spikes occasionally on peaks, and my notes suggest that I’m convinced much of the “problem” here and throughout is Bobs too loud? Not sure if too loud is correct, perhaps he’s playing really loud (it was a big hall with loud NY crowd for that period?) and the recordings fine, your just hearing his rig distort? But though I really dig his sound and prevalence in the mix, cause he’s killing it, perhaps he’s occasionally a tad loud relative to other sources? (Good example in upcoming tape splice)
    Oh, and what the hell was that weird “organ” sound starting around 12:55 or so lol, certainly not a B3! Pretty wild whatever it was.
    ROLLL OUT the Barrel sounded pretty good lol.
    EYES you can get a good taste during the instrumental section around 2:30..and a good example of normal piano clipping (sensitive pickups), but then he switches to ? guessing the Rhodes, which occasionally has its own distortion characteristics, but this is more of what I call normal stuff.
    Listen around 9:40+ for what I call FM like static. This is another stew ingredient that is harder to hear, not always there, but there on occasion?
    More of the same minor stuff through to about 3:30 in BIG RIVER, though Bob goes way outta tune at 2:25 in GSET and seems to take a few tunes to fully get back lol.
    $ LET ME SING is perhaps the best overall example of many things going on on this release. This and $ CHINA CAT are the most obvious examples of the idiosyncrasies on this release. Check out LMS at 2:00 mark and at the end etc.
    check out Weirs intro licks to China Cat and some of that drum stuff at 1:30+...eventually it gets better and by RIDER it’s sorta status quo again (meaning instances but nothing huge).
    From there on I mostly stopped with notes and just listened, though $ Trucking, GDTRFB etc are good examples of the “stew” especially the blending of the cymbally snare FM static with Bobs distortion whether intentional or not, it all adds up.
    EDIT: $$$ end of show especially One Mo Sat is really dirty all the way around, and
    TRUCKIN’ TAPE SPLICE? $$ Check out how “it” almost disappears at 4:56, actually something starts to be tweaked a little before that? Bobs not there at all until around 6:00 but he’s back at 6:22. Sounds like a tape splice, perhaps using a cassette, or perhaps some processor kicked in and out, but what’s most interesting is listen to Bob comparatively during these 2 sections, before, during, and after, it’s amazing how much different the 2 sound, especially Bob, and seemingly our phenomena too!
    By George I think we’ve figured most of this out!

    Conclusion: it’s the battered old tape, complicated by a perfect storm of minor, often normal anomalies, and an unusual Weir mix for good or for ill, and when occurring simultaneously, often during song peaks, it can unfortunately be distracting.
    Listening equipment, environment, and personal habits no doubt play a roll in individual experiences. I can see how many folks might not notice much of this.
    But on revealing equipment with certain ears it can be so obvious as to be jarring on first occasion.
    Like many uncertainties, once the knowledge is gained, the dissonance is usually manageable. Getting better with every listen, though at low volume : (
    VERDICT: Caveat Emptor indeed, but with perhaps an extra pinch...

    EDIT: this in no way shape or form describes the musical content, which is superb!

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    Oro - That is quite a great dissertation on sound production! You know your stuff!
    I’ve never had the ear of a Brian Wilson/George Martin, and I know Dick’s & Dave’s come with the odd hiccup and blemish, but at the end of the day, it’s The Grateful Dead.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 07:30

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Billy The Kid thanks for the Big Rock Pow-Wow reminder. Totally forgot about those shows. At some point I need to get in Disc 3 of the Lyceum 5/25 show today. One of my favorite discs in the whole box. Uncle John's Band => Wharf Rat => Dark Star => Sugar Magnolia.

Yeah dreading, something like that. Jim & Daverock I do love the Bickershaw and HYH performances too. More great jamming....they just could do no wrong on this tour.

I'm still back at the 5/23 Dark Star, wondering why jobs are so time consuming. I mean really....they couldn't figure out how to make all of this work with a four-day weekend? There's Dead to be heard all day every day. But yeah this Dark Star- whooooa - some serious meltdownage. Great Morning Dew. One of these days I have to compare all of the E72 ones to each other. Is 5/26 the best? I just don't know. I suspect they all have their own charm, as usual.

Sixtus if you get a chance to repost your E72 Dark Star breakdowns, I would love to copy those down for reference. That was some good stuff.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 08:02

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....and he says "look son, first you swim full force at the human but at the last second, you turn away. Then you swim at him full force again, but again at the last second you swim away. Then you can go back and eat the human."

The son looks confused and asks, "But dad, why can't we just go eat the human the first time?"

Dad replies "Well, you can but why would you want to eat him when he's still full of shit?"

Pehehehehehehggy-o

after that 7/26/72
then 3/26/72
then 7/25/74
then 11/5/79
then
then
then

Summer Break will give me the time I need to get DEEP with this stuff

(uh...Dave....Dave...?)

WHERE'S THAT BOX AT?????!!!!!?????

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 08:52

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Hey dude, I actually DID post the E'72 Dark Star summaries a few weeks back. Check your PM - you should find them waiting for your uptake once again.

And as for the E'72 Lovelights, the Hundred Year Hall Lovelight will forever go down as epic in my book. The jamming is off the charts; I mean, in just that first little jam break Jerry takes, he goes off the charts for like 3 minutes, never even coming up for air. It sets the tone all the way to Jamville and back again. Just ask Bilbo.

Be Well Folks!
Sixtus

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:07

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Very nice win by our beloved Leafs last night. Looking forward to taking on the Jets.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:40

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Got it, thanks! Perfect timing. I'm about to tune into 5/25...These are great concise descriptions, complete with clock markers. A Dark Star or two a day and some Bird Songs, and I'm on my way :D

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:50

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I am quietly proud at this particular moment.

As Pigpen might say
“Turn on your goal lights, let it shine on me, shine on your goal light!”

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 15:40

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@ Dennis
a bit late to answer but...
closer to the Truth is a great album, and there is a collection exactly named "collected" wich is interesting.
TJ white is a kind of JJ cale of the swamp...

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 17:11

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...this has just fallen onto my radar and woooo-boooooiiy it's knocked my socks off.
A gem unearthed, at least to these ears.
The jazzy-infused utterly endless jamming appears in many places.
Note that jam following drums is a Feelin' Groovy snuck in there as a jam in this era is wont to do:

https://archive.org/details/gd1972-10-02.sbd.gans.miller.112864.flac16

I blame KeithFan for this '72 dive.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 19:10

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It's a real bitch they didn't polish up Bird Song in time for the E72 tour. We didn't get the revamped arrangement until July. I mentioned a few weeks back, my favorite Bobby-Jerry opening duo is Dick's Picks 36 Promised Land / Bird Song. So as I was preparing to tear into 5/23 the other day (which features one of the best Promised Lands my ears have heard), I decided to throw a little extra cowbell in there. That's right- Bird Song 10/2/72. It's such a great soundboard recording it almost fits in seamlessly (the EQ helps out a lot in keeping it together). When I read your post about 10/2, I thought yep....Planet Deadhead is aligned. As far as '72 is concerned- guilty as charged! 10/2 is fantastic. For cover art I used a Dead skeleton in an astronaut suit with the name tag Charlie, and an arm patch with the Charlie Brown black on yellow stripe. Truth be told I just noticed the Charlie Brown reference. It's great cover art, and so I named this soundboard album "Spaced Out in Springfield". Thanks to Jim for hooking me up with this show.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 20:07

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I see the Wayback is already course set for 10/2/72. How can I not tune in that show from start to finish now? I have to say, Bird Song I know (and Keith does some amazing piano shit I've not heard before - lots of quick little runs), but I can't speak to the rest of it. The Feeling Groovy Jam sounds enticing, and I love an opening Cold Rain & Snow. Not sure if you caught the addendum to my last post Jim, but this show came from you many moons ago. Sometimes I think it would be cool to live like a dude in the Matrix pods for a few weeks, before they get rescued.
Except the pod is infused with N2O and the Dead plays loudly in perfect surround sound. Now that's freedom.

Here's another rabbit hole I'm currently diving into in freefall:

https://archive.org/details/gd1972-10-18.132378.sbd.miller.flac16

And good god, this Playin >Drums > Dark Star > Morning Dew > Playin is ....wut
And, uhh, 15 minute Bird Song.
Keith is like sticky on rice everywhere...pie-anner romping and leading.
Pardon me for not having hit this stuff before, but Holy Moses Malone Batman.

Ouvre & OOOOt
Sixctus

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 22:24

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So 47 years ago today we drove up the coast to Santa Barbara to catch the Dead at the UCSB Campus Stadium for my buddy John's Bachelor Party...we fried and so did the boys...John got married the following weekend and he and Gloria are still together...we kind of messed up the wedding plans a bit though...we were going into the stadium grounds and there was a guy ringing a tiny bell saying doses, hash, doses...I told him four hits please and a gram...he pulled out a small box of very small band-aids....they were on a roll and he tore off four of them and gave them to me...I was a bit puzzled and he told me open one...I tore the paper covering off and peeled back the tape and there was a hit of a smokey amber colored windowpane...well smack me sideways, the greatest packaging job I have ever seen in my life...I think I paid $20 in all for everything and we sauntered on into the stadium proper...as I posted earlier I had taken a folding lawn chair with me and I was allowed to take it in...we set up on the center of the field about 50 ft from the stage...I handed out the doses and we each took one and after placed the band aids on our hats...that is, we all did that except for John who hadn't brought a hat so he put it on his forehead...harsh bright sunlight for over five hours...by the end of the show Johnny was a bright red (he was the Gringo of the group) and I looked at him and reached over and peeled the band-aid off of his forehead..BAM! the skin that had been under the tape looked like it was glowing white compared to the rest of his face...like light was pouring out or where you'd put a quarter in...by the following week he had peeled and healed somewhat but that small rectangle on his forehead was still there...Gloria was a little peeved but not too bad YIKES!

And visual footage only no sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYt8RQQoMjA

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The Third day of The Santa Clara Pop Festival...Not much to add on a show that opened with Chuck Berry and closed with Jimi Hendrix...Yeow! Also on this date in '64 Cassius Clay knocked out Sonny Liston in the 1st Rd with the infamous phantom punch...heady times...I ain't a hockey guy...no ice in East LA where I grew up...it was a big deal when Gretzky came to town but I wasn't paying attention with Showtime still in progress and Gibson's home run in the Series...

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 06:09

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In the fog of the '72 delirium, I forgot yesterday was the anniversary of that exceptional '77 show at The Mosque; the Flagship of the Dave's Picks Series; the Star Wars Show; Hokey Religions & Ancient Weapons; My Favorite DaP Album Cover From Last Week's Survey; the Sultan of ....Something.

I'm not sure how this slipped my mind (N2O), but this show is truly on par with the best of '77 and a cut above the rest IMHO.

Oh wait...right, last night is slowly coming back to me. It wasn't that the anniversary slipped under my radar....

https://youtu.be/QZqfxoCYfxw

stand alone or box, Dave...you gotta release that.

I'm sure it was a blast to be there.

Waylon Jennings opened as well as NRPS ("nerps").

and then Led Zeppelin played there June 2!!!

"gone are the days..."

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 12:07

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The sports guy for a local Bay Area TV station has been reporting from the "vinyl room" at his home during Covid. He has albums lining 2 walls that he changes out every day.

I couldn't help but notice the absence of a certain San Francisco band that people seem to like around here. Just figured they weren't his cup of tea.

Wrong - check this out (scroll until you get to the panel under the 10:53 PM marker, then play). Get ready to hit the pause button after the ads to check out his display!

https://archive.org/details/KTVU_20210526_050000_The_Ten_Oclock_News_on…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 13:29

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quite a display

my vinyl copies were attacked over the years by cats, and aren't pristine enough to show on camera...

A hot one gets you the Cup.

A bad one gets you an early tee time.

Thanks Jarry for the game 5 gift. Well done Isles.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 21:40

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this morning and there's the May 2021 GD Bulletiin...I get a little rush of excitement as I think it's gotta be this year's box set annuncement...I open it and WHAT???? marketing a bunch of gardening BS? Horrid, simply horrid...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 21:58

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Not a bloomin' apron

Appallin'

What focus group did they conduct?

"Who's in charge here?"

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 22:24

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Blah blah.. I get that. They need to upgrade their t shirt quality.. paper thin and the sizing is weird.. like third world weird.

I got the GD bulletin email too... like several of them. If you somehow check the box that is auto-filled to begin with that you would like to receive email updates, you get another email from them. I get like six of them. They need to reduce this list by checking for duplicates.

DO NOT CHECK THAT BOX!! EVER!!

If they had higher quality stuff it would be easier to be ok with the mass mailings. The only thing they seem to peddle that is good seems to be their stoneware mugs and according to some the Dave's Picks glasses (which for some god forsaken reason are also "limited editions" Isn't everything limited.. even water and gasoline but I digress).. As for the stoneware mugs, I think I have them all, just one is a little quirky. The rest are legit. I miss my Morning Brew insulated stainless steel mug.

Well, they are going to try and peddle us merch which is ok - I expect it, I just wish they stopped taking us for suckers and upped the quality a bit. The stuff is not cheap and it would be worth every penny if they simply stepped up the quality and scaled back a little on greed.

Sorry for the negative comments.. it's not like me.. now I feel guilty. As you were.

Edit: Oh, and the Workingman's Hatchet is very cool also.. pricey, but I believe it to be well made and high quality (again, legit). I think the next time I stroll into a redneck bar in the scary parts of the backwoods... I will bring along my little friend. The hatchet is bad ass. Also when are they going to market the Dave's Picks Sasquatch Hunting Vest? Like the one he was wearing on the 'fly fishing' release video...

Ok rant over..

Back to your regularly scheduled Smokestack Lightning > TOYLL.

I agree about the silliness in making the glasses ltd ed. I missed the 1st altogether, ordered the second only to have it cancelled. Guess the missed one of the family. As for the shirts living on the coast south of SF t-shirts are a waste of time. It hasn't gone over 60 yet. But I am very happy with the sweat shirts. Peace
Edit I guess is all you have to do is bitch a little. I just got an email they're sending it after all

I'm not a big fan of all the merchandise being flogged around The Dead...or other artists, for that matter. For me music, films and books are where its at.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 07:49

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....other than that terrapin garden statue, everything else looks like hot garbage. Reminds me of the Golden Knights last night. 🤮

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 07:56

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WTF happened? As tough as the knights are, I do not want to play the Wild! Some how they always seem to beat us? Every team has a “that team”, for the AVs it’s the Wild...so Go Knights! and,
GO LEAFS! and,
Na, na, naaaaa, na, hey eh a, good bye Sydney 😢

EDIT: I’m with you about that Garden Statue ; )

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 08:30

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Why are they touting all of this “garden stuff” when in fact they haven’t even shipped the Dave’s Glass yet?
At least they haven’t shipped my glass as of yet…….

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 09:19

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I thought the Astrology “Series” (really!?) blew! I guess if you have a Great Aunt that is a Dead Head and a gardener, ok on the apron, but if I even considered those garden ceramics (I won’t), they’d have a life expectancy of exactly one night before neighborhood kids turn them into road dust (see: Pumpkins, Snowmen; Christmas lights, etc).

Vegas is getting schooled by the Wild, not what I was expecting. But things can turn on a dime…

Oro - Your AVs are resting up, and whichever team they get next is going to be tired and banged up…as long as they don’t get overconfident…we may see you come the finals!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 10:20

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peddle merchandise that I have no interest in purchasing, ask me to join your mailing list every time I visit the site and force me to identify palm trees on top of mountains with motorcycles towing boats jumping over chimneys that land on stairs before I post, at least hire an intern to write an algorithm that allows me to search your chatrooms.

I can't tell you how many times I have attempted to find a prior post with no success. Usually, I scroll back four or five pages before I give up in frustration.

It's not that hard guys.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 11:00

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The below jig always comes to mind on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mup9CcPNs

Unsurprisingly, I find the Terrapin garden gnomes rather charming, I could see'em serenading goldfish in the fish pond out back...

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 15:16

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I draw the line at garden bear ceramic statues.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 15:47

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so silly.

who thought this up? gardening club?

"we are a bunch of people who love the music of a specific band. we get extremely happy with new releases by this band. we have happy memories, current fun, and future enjoyment of this band's music. we will GIVE you money for musical releases by this band."

"hey, fans of the specific band , how about buying some tutus, tiaras, clam juice, pencils, bottle caps, shovels, etc., instead?"

Proudfoot is now done with this topic. promise.

On the way home today: 5/19/77

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 17:00

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X01lIQiqh3k. Great introduction, after a less then enthusiastic introduction the previous nights. Hey Dave , please release a 1969 box set , April 1969 , Avalon Ballroom and Ark. If not this year, consider it for an up coming year.

I really think I need a better sasquatch hunting vest. Try as I might.. I have yet to see one. Clearly I need some better gear.

Now if the Dave's Picks Bigfoot Hunting Vest (C) TM (R) was part of their springtime merch, needless to say I'd be all in.
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Ark Ark (who's there?)
Bigfoot
Bigfoot Who
Better get that big foot out of your ass and give us the 2021 Box Set announcement or we're gonna storm the vault and free April '69 and June '73.

Just sayin' Dave, box us this week.... or I will be forced to taunt you a second time.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 04:20

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Is shipping. Winterland is calling.

I would be happy with either. Every now and then he surprises us too.. which would be fine. I don't think we have a great accounting of what multi-tracks exist. For example, who ever knew we had a 48 track master from '91?

It's Happy Friday.. enjoy the day all.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 06:19

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I have nothing against them taking some time (within reason of course) to get everything just exactly perfect.

Ark Box, Fall 72, Feb 73 and perhaps another Winterland set would all be fine by me.

Carpe diem everybody, 'tis Friday! :-)

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 09:14

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That Skull & Roses is showing on the Big A for $21.99 and free S & H for us Prime folk...just Sayin'...I've always done it this way AND they've always been the lenticular covers too...

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 09:30

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39 years ago today, I was at the Moscone Center in S.F. to see the Dead play a benefit concert for Vietnam veterans. John Cippolina, and Boz Scaggs played with the Dead. Country Joe was also on the bill. It was a good show.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 12:37

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I was at the Moscone show that BtK mentions. I don’t remember much about the show, but I remember being really proud of myself for sneaking in.

In those days I used to pick up money doing under-the-table house painting jobs, and my friend and co-conspirator Dave somehow got a gig painting a building in the Haight that was owned by somebody his dad knew. So we were kind of living in this empty building while we did the work, and doing whatever at night. And on the night of the Moscone show we decided to head down there even though we had no tickets. We got there after the Dead had already started their set, but fortunately, I had devised a brilliant scheme.

“Dude, here’s what we do: let’s just walk up to the turnstiles and climb over like that’s just a totally normal thing to do. And if a security guy stops you, just say you’re looking for the bathroom and act like you can’t understand what the guy is saying because you’re really really stoned.”

(Which was not actually that much of a challenge. We had stopped off on the way to visit Dave's mom, who had affiliations with a well-known local biker gang--you can see in some of the Altamont scenes in Gimme Shelter. Suffice to say, she had access to the Good Stuff.)

So we get to the Moscone, and Dave and I just calmly climb over the turnstile right next to a bunch of security, like no big deal, so right away one of ‘em comes and asks to see our tickets. So I just started looking around with a puzzled expression on face and spouting gibberish. “Woah huh wah tickets? Aw gawd I gotta pee, right nooow! Where the bathroom at maaaan?” And the guy just sighed, rolled his eyes, and pointed me to the men’s room.

Probably I should feel bad about sneaking into a benefit. That’s gotta be some negative karma points.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 19:11

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What shows would an Ark box consist of?

To Terrapin: Hartford 1977 anniversary today. My favorite Samson & Delilah is on there. Great God Alright talk wood! Also that 19 minute Sugaree. Now there's song I can take pre or post hiatus. Those E72 performances with Pigpen on the Hammond are perfect. But I can also settle into the long solo on this 5/28/77 show. The recording captures a bit more of something...crowd noise and instruments both I recall. I remember when this one came out. In hindsight it's an odd set list. None of the big combo songs like Estimated-Eyes, Scarlet-Fire,
Help-Slip-Franklin's. No Mississippi Half-Step. Maybe I'll put it on, it's been a while. As soon as the post-Alligator Jam from 3/2/69 is over.

Classic story Crow Told Me. I like how you were "kind of living" in the building you were painting :D

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