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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #1381
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    Oroborous, I found exactly what you're describing to be what I hear on the 1973 PNW shows. The 1974 shows are fine; it's just 1973. Let me preface this by saying this is by no means any reason not to get the box set - it's an awesome triple dose of '73, Dark Star a la mode, plus the three 1974 shows that sound better than any 1974 show I've heard.

    So what I hear on those 73 shows sounds like what you're describing. Unevenness. Artifacts. Loud symbols. Dropouts. Hiss. Certainly not throughout the entire three shows, but enough to get on the radar of someone who listens to shows with headphones most of the time. And the odd thing is that I don't think anyone else took this from the 1973 revordings on PNW.

    I didn't catch this on Dave's Picks 38, except for the warm-up tune Bertha, which I'm good with, because it's the first song. I listen to Dave's Picks 38 about half a dozen times and then put it down for the last week. I'm putting it back on to see if I hear anything differently. Where are some places that you hear it in the show? Also I'm curious if Playing in the Band and Birdsong are doing it?

    Edit - just listened to a few tracks from Pacific Northwest 73 in the car on the way to get some pizza and it's not nearly as noticeable on regular speakers. DaP 38 sounds better still on the couple of tracks I had time to compare a little bit of. Not that I want to hear anything bad on Dave's Picks 38, but I would be willing to take a listen to whatever tracks you're hearing things on.

  • #1382
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    A Music Archivist Walks Into A Bar…

    Dave L walks into a bar, and has a seat at the front. “I’ll have a beer, bartender”
    The bartender replies “What!? No 2021 Box Set!?”

    Put down the fishing pole, DL, and release that Box!!

  • #1383
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    box box box PLEASE

    #38 sound is wobbly here and there

    I just go with it....but it is uneven, fo' sho'

  • #1384
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    53 years ago today..........

    The Dead played at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, along with Big Brother and the Jefferson Airplane. The Dead played a great version of Alligator , hopefully they have a tape of this in the vault and will release it as part of a 1968 box set. My brothers friend went to this show.

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    In some places it’s noticeable enough most people should be able to tell with at least a moderate volume, and being top notch GOGD I’m sure many have cranked it lol. It’s prevalent enough I’m guessing you’d have noticed it even with just a casual listen. I only hope I don’t ruin this for others who haven’t heard it, but go looking for it and then can’t not hear it LOL.
    But I’m thinking it has to be a small sample problem, though I find it hard to believe only 3 of us have had it?

    EDIT: I hear ya 1st SHOW, and truth be told there are many shows I wouldn’t care so much, but these shows, though I don’t agree with best of year hyperbole, are so up my wheelhouse, and otherwise sound so good, that it just bums me out. But hey, just like most dead “worts and all” ; )
    PS: love that if you don’t mind quote!

    DBL EDIT: wonder if they used any compression/limiting on the original tape feed? If said device was not set well it might explain...it’s puzzling that they’d use such a tape? Perhaps they felt it the benefit out weighed the negative and figured most folks wouldn’t notice? Interesting what ever the case.

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    I'm glad you brought that back up Oro

    I recently got a new amp in my system and am hearing details like never before. You have covered all the sonic equipment possibilities thoroughly so I have to go with operator error on the original recording that could not be Normanized away. Maybe the sound quality is why this took so long to get released. It doesn't seem as bad on the 9/7 material. Worth putting up with for sure but it kind of spoils playing it really loud. The old church of the IDM. (It Don't Matter) From ancient Denver AM radio with Charley & Barney in the morning. They had their own religion: "If you don't mind, then it don't matter". The 9/7 second set is worth it with that amazing Eyes jam.
    Cheers!

  • #1387
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    Wait, we are supposed to listen to these releases??

    I just got my copy last week and have been able to listen to it once. I think it is a great release. Sound quality is not as good as say Dave's #21 or #5, but still good. I have a good old wired system in my basement that I am sure it is nothing like yours, but it is still good. Anyway, I will have to put this one again and try to see if I hear what you are talking about. Typically if there are issues with the recording I usually pick it up on the first listen. I didn't on this one. Is it perfect, no, but like I said I still think it sounds really good and the performance is stellar.

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    Schizophrenic 38 (production issues?)

    On one hand, most of the music on here (and Bonus) is awesome! Even the complicated new stuff is hot...
    On the other hand, I can’t believe Angry Jack Straw, DCVMT, and I are the only ones having issues or hearing???, not even sure what the hell it is?.....
    I’ve purposely held off on posting about this until I spent significant time on this first...
    I’ve tried the actual discs in different players, server playing on several different systems,... same weird results?
    Worst part is not being able to figure out what it is?...
    The overall levels are not too hot, peaks set at -1 dB which is how I like it; no need to chance over saturation by going 0 db (that’s what a volume control is for...). So don’t think the mastering level is too hot...
    My guess is something in processing/mastering? Perhaps a synchronicity issue between processors?
    Perhaps some hard compression/limiting. I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time which would lean towards some kind of overall level problem. It’s only on individual sources at mostly individual instances, though there times when more then one source distorts...
    Don’t think it’s original tape over saturation because it would be highly unlikely that that would of gone unnoticed by recordist and wouldn’t have been so prevalent on so many different sources. Meaning you might have one guy who’s level is too hot because he turned up extra and the recordist didn’t catch it and adjust right away, but I’ve never heard a tape with basically, potentially, all the sources distorting like this.
    It’s often very subtle, other times it’s not. Haven’t noticed it as much on the bonus disc. Seems to start a little as LIG picks up volume, only the louder parts of Stella, but from then on its more prevalent.
    38 itself is pretty much riddled with these distortion artifacts.
    Complicating things are other variables like Bob using some kind of distortion peddle, which I’ve never heard from him this early on? Kieth occasionally has some noisy stuff kick in/out? Cymbals often trigger it, but everything, including occasionally vocals too.
    Agree with All that you can really hear and appreciate Bobs playing on all of this, in fact I liked the overall mix. I can see why this show was regarded by DL so highly, which makes this ?? all the more annoying.
    Oh, and I don’t think it’s my gear as all my previous stuff still sounds the same, so it’s something going on with the production of this release.
    Don’t know any of the specifics about plangent, but wouldn’t think that processing would alter volume peaks like this?
    My guess is that perhaps there were signal to noise issues on the original tape, or inconsistent levels between instruments (one significantly loader than another), where some compression was used to bring the overall level up, which then caused certain, individual sources to occasionally, noticeably, distort due to hard compression, but that would usually be more quick, arrack only phenomena.
    And you wouldn’t think that pros of this caliber, with the gear they have access to would do such a thing?
    I’m just desperate to figure out what the hell is going on since it’s driving me nuts and ruining what would otherwise be a long term, go to release, maddening! It’s no secret I’m a fall/winter 73 nut, so this of all releases being almost unlistenable is Murphy on 11!
    I’ve listened to this at least a dozen times already trying to just enjoy the awesome shows/music, but this phenomena keeps rearing its ugly head, uggggggg!
    It really freaked me out the first virgin spin as I was really psyched for some killer fall 73 so prepped accordingly, including firing up the big boy system extra loud and putting on the ole proverbial seat belt. So when it started to become unmistakable it really freaked me out! Now it’s just an unfortunate, un-ignorable annoyance.
    But mostly, this is deeply disappointing that such a great show, from one of the best eras is basically unlistenable.
    This is so frustrating too, as I’m sure many of you are scratching your heads wondering what the hell im taliking about lol. But at least 2 others; Angry Jack, and DCVT have experienced the same thing, so it’s not just me.

    The question then; is this a product defect, if so, is it comprehensive or just a small sample, and thus should we be asking for replacements?
    I’m guessing unfortunately/fortunately it’s a small sample problem or this board would be filled with displeasure!
    Possibly many folks listening on “normal” modest gear, at lower volumes, with normal ears might not notice much of it, but not everyone! I have to believe if this was a comprehensive problem more folks would be noticing it?
    So fortunately it’s probably not a problem for most, and unfortunately, because it’s sometimes hard for just a few to get acknowledgment of such a unusual idiosyncrasy.
    Ugggggg, my brain hurts from this release pulling me in two such diverse directions!
    Luckily I have several hundred other shows to listen too ; )
    Would love to hear if anyone else out there is experiencing this same problem?

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    Got my replacement Daves 38, big thanks to MaryE and Doc Rhino for taking care of me.....Have listened to it all three times and this is an AWESOME release. One of the best Birdsongs ever, can’t stop playing it. Great first version of WRS and Let it Grow. The bonus disc is fantastic, been listening to that eyes almost every night for the last week, killer version.
    I agree with the calls foe a fall 72 box or the Ark.....please Dave😊

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    Fun story about the duck "calls". Never even noticed or heard about it. To me what is famous about the show is Bobby's intro to Jack-a-Roe. Very inventive and the kind of stuff Jerry was probably watching and listening closely to and would weave into the fills. Not sure I even caught the significance of it until Phil brought it up in the "Phil Zone" CD.
    Latvala! And cheers!
    EDIT: Listening to Fox Theatre Atlanta 5-18-77 now and blown away by The Other One > Brokedown. Source is a tape recorded in 1994 from the GD Hour radio show. David Gans must have been using DAT direct from the vault source as the sound is amazing for a TDK DS-X100 tape. (recorded in Dolby C, but I don't often use the Dolby on replay as it dulls the treble too much) Unfortunately David Gans was not allowed to offer whole shows back then as I recall.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 07:30

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Billy The Kid thanks for the Big Rock Pow-Wow reminder. Totally forgot about those shows. At some point I need to get in Disc 3 of the Lyceum 5/25 show today. One of my favorite discs in the whole box. Uncle John's Band => Wharf Rat => Dark Star => Sugar Magnolia.

Yeah dreading, something like that. Jim & Daverock I do love the Bickershaw and HYH performances too. More great jamming....they just could do no wrong on this tour.

I'm still back at the 5/23 Dark Star, wondering why jobs are so time consuming. I mean really....they couldn't figure out how to make all of this work with a four-day weekend? There's Dead to be heard all day every day. But yeah this Dark Star- whooooa - some serious meltdownage. Great Morning Dew. One of these days I have to compare all of the E72 ones to each other. Is 5/26 the best? I just don't know. I suspect they all have their own charm, as usual.

Sixtus if you get a chance to repost your E72 Dark Star breakdowns, I would love to copy those down for reference. That was some good stuff.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 08:02

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....and he says "look son, first you swim full force at the human but at the last second, you turn away. Then you swim at him full force again, but again at the last second you swim away. Then you can go back and eat the human."

The son looks confused and asks, "But dad, why can't we just go eat the human the first time?"

Dad replies "Well, you can but why would you want to eat him when he's still full of shit?"

Pehehehehehehggy-o

after that 7/26/72
then 3/26/72
then 7/25/74
then 11/5/79
then
then
then

Summer Break will give me the time I need to get DEEP with this stuff

(uh...Dave....Dave...?)

WHERE'S THAT BOX AT?????!!!!!?????

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 08:52

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Hey dude, I actually DID post the E'72 Dark Star summaries a few weeks back. Check your PM - you should find them waiting for your uptake once again.

And as for the E'72 Lovelights, the Hundred Year Hall Lovelight will forever go down as epic in my book. The jamming is off the charts; I mean, in just that first little jam break Jerry takes, he goes off the charts for like 3 minutes, never even coming up for air. It sets the tone all the way to Jamville and back again. Just ask Bilbo.

Be Well Folks!
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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:07

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Very nice win by our beloved Leafs last night. Looking forward to taking on the Jets.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:40

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Got it, thanks! Perfect timing. I'm about to tune into 5/25...These are great concise descriptions, complete with clock markers. A Dark Star or two a day and some Bird Songs, and I'm on my way :D

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 09:50

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I am quietly proud at this particular moment.

As Pigpen might say
“Turn on your goal lights, let it shine on me, shine on your goal light!”

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 15:40

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@ Dennis
a bit late to answer but...
closer to the Truth is a great album, and there is a collection exactly named "collected" wich is interesting.
TJ white is a kind of JJ cale of the swamp...

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 17:11

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...this has just fallen onto my radar and woooo-boooooiiy it's knocked my socks off.
A gem unearthed, at least to these ears.
The jazzy-infused utterly endless jamming appears in many places.
Note that jam following drums is a Feelin' Groovy snuck in there as a jam in this era is wont to do:

https://archive.org/details/gd1972-10-02.sbd.gans.miller.112864.flac16

I blame KeithFan for this '72 dive.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 19:10

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It's a real bitch they didn't polish up Bird Song in time for the E72 tour. We didn't get the revamped arrangement until July. I mentioned a few weeks back, my favorite Bobby-Jerry opening duo is Dick's Picks 36 Promised Land / Bird Song. So as I was preparing to tear into 5/23 the other day (which features one of the best Promised Lands my ears have heard), I decided to throw a little extra cowbell in there. That's right- Bird Song 10/2/72. It's such a great soundboard recording it almost fits in seamlessly (the EQ helps out a lot in keeping it together). When I read your post about 10/2, I thought yep....Planet Deadhead is aligned. As far as '72 is concerned- guilty as charged! 10/2 is fantastic. For cover art I used a Dead skeleton in an astronaut suit with the name tag Charlie, and an arm patch with the Charlie Brown black on yellow stripe. Truth be told I just noticed the Charlie Brown reference. It's great cover art, and so I named this soundboard album "Spaced Out in Springfield". Thanks to Jim for hooking me up with this show.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 20:07

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I see the Wayback is already course set for 10/2/72. How can I not tune in that show from start to finish now? I have to say, Bird Song I know (and Keith does some amazing piano shit I've not heard before - lots of quick little runs), but I can't speak to the rest of it. The Feeling Groovy Jam sounds enticing, and I love an opening Cold Rain & Snow. Not sure if you caught the addendum to my last post Jim, but this show came from you many moons ago. Sometimes I think it would be cool to live like a dude in the Matrix pods for a few weeks, before they get rescued.
Except the pod is infused with N2O and the Dead plays loudly in perfect surround sound. Now that's freedom.

Here's another rabbit hole I'm currently diving into in freefall:

https://archive.org/details/gd1972-10-18.132378.sbd.miller.flac16

And good god, this Playin >Drums > Dark Star > Morning Dew > Playin is ....wut
And, uhh, 15 minute Bird Song.
Keith is like sticky on rice everywhere...pie-anner romping and leading.
Pardon me for not having hit this stuff before, but Holy Moses Malone Batman.

Ouvre & OOOOt
Sixctus

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So 47 years ago today we drove up the coast to Santa Barbara to catch the Dead at the UCSB Campus Stadium for my buddy John's Bachelor Party...we fried and so did the boys...John got married the following weekend and he and Gloria are still together...we kind of messed up the wedding plans a bit though...we were going into the stadium grounds and there was a guy ringing a tiny bell saying doses, hash, doses...I told him four hits please and a gram...he pulled out a small box of very small band-aids....they were on a roll and he tore off four of them and gave them to me...I was a bit puzzled and he told me open one...I tore the paper covering off and peeled back the tape and there was a hit of a smokey amber colored windowpane...well smack me sideways, the greatest packaging job I have ever seen in my life...I think I paid $20 in all for everything and we sauntered on into the stadium proper...as I posted earlier I had taken a folding lawn chair with me and I was allowed to take it in...we set up on the center of the field about 50 ft from the stage...I handed out the doses and we each took one and after placed the band aids on our hats...that is, we all did that except for John who hadn't brought a hat so he put it on his forehead...harsh bright sunlight for over five hours...by the end of the show Johnny was a bright red (he was the Gringo of the group) and I looked at him and reached over and peeled the band-aid off of his forehead..BAM! the skin that had been under the tape looked like it was glowing white compared to the rest of his face...like light was pouring out or where you'd put a quarter in...by the following week he had peeled and healed somewhat but that small rectangle on his forehead was still there...Gloria was a little peeved but not too bad YIKES!

And visual footage only no sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYt8RQQoMjA

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 05/25/2021 - 22:31

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The Third day of The Santa Clara Pop Festival...Not much to add on a show that opened with Chuck Berry and closed with Jimi Hendrix...Yeow! Also on this date in '64 Cassius Clay knocked out Sonny Liston in the 1st Rd with the infamous phantom punch...heady times...I ain't a hockey guy...no ice in East LA where I grew up...it was a big deal when Gretzky came to town but I wasn't paying attention with Showtime still in progress and Gibson's home run in the Series...

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 06:09

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In the fog of the '72 delirium, I forgot yesterday was the anniversary of that exceptional '77 show at The Mosque; the Flagship of the Dave's Picks Series; the Star Wars Show; Hokey Religions & Ancient Weapons; My Favorite DaP Album Cover From Last Week's Survey; the Sultan of ....Something.

I'm not sure how this slipped my mind (N2O), but this show is truly on par with the best of '77 and a cut above the rest IMHO.

Oh wait...right, last night is slowly coming back to me. It wasn't that the anniversary slipped under my radar....

https://youtu.be/QZqfxoCYfxw

stand alone or box, Dave...you gotta release that.

I'm sure it was a blast to be there.

Waylon Jennings opened as well as NRPS ("nerps").

and then Led Zeppelin played there June 2!!!

"gone are the days..."

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 12:07

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The sports guy for a local Bay Area TV station has been reporting from the "vinyl room" at his home during Covid. He has albums lining 2 walls that he changes out every day.

I couldn't help but notice the absence of a certain San Francisco band that people seem to like around here. Just figured they weren't his cup of tea.

Wrong - check this out (scroll until you get to the panel under the 10:53 PM marker, then play). Get ready to hit the pause button after the ads to check out his display!

https://archive.org/details/KTVU_20210526_050000_The_Ten_Oclock_News_on…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 13:29

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quite a display

my vinyl copies were attacked over the years by cats, and aren't pristine enough to show on camera...

A hot one gets you the Cup.

A bad one gets you an early tee time.

Thanks Jarry for the game 5 gift. Well done Isles.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 21:40

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this morning and there's the May 2021 GD Bulletiin...I get a little rush of excitement as I think it's gotta be this year's box set annuncement...I open it and WHAT???? marketing a bunch of gardening BS? Horrid, simply horrid...

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 21:58

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Not a bloomin' apron

Appallin'

What focus group did they conduct?

"Who's in charge here?"

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/26/2021 - 22:24

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Blah blah.. I get that. They need to upgrade their t shirt quality.. paper thin and the sizing is weird.. like third world weird.

I got the GD bulletin email too... like several of them. If you somehow check the box that is auto-filled to begin with that you would like to receive email updates, you get another email from them. I get like six of them. They need to reduce this list by checking for duplicates.

DO NOT CHECK THAT BOX!! EVER!!

If they had higher quality stuff it would be easier to be ok with the mass mailings. The only thing they seem to peddle that is good seems to be their stoneware mugs and according to some the Dave's Picks glasses (which for some god forsaken reason are also "limited editions" Isn't everything limited.. even water and gasoline but I digress).. As for the stoneware mugs, I think I have them all, just one is a little quirky. The rest are legit. I miss my Morning Brew insulated stainless steel mug.

Well, they are going to try and peddle us merch which is ok - I expect it, I just wish they stopped taking us for suckers and upped the quality a bit. The stuff is not cheap and it would be worth every penny if they simply stepped up the quality and scaled back a little on greed.

Sorry for the negative comments.. it's not like me.. now I feel guilty. As you were.

Edit: Oh, and the Workingman's Hatchet is very cool also.. pricey, but I believe it to be well made and high quality (again, legit). I think the next time I stroll into a redneck bar in the scary parts of the backwoods... I will bring along my little friend. The hatchet is bad ass. Also when are they going to market the Dave's Picks Sasquatch Hunting Vest? Like the one he was wearing on the 'fly fishing' release video...

Ok rant over..

Back to your regularly scheduled Smokestack Lightning > TOYLL.

I agree about the silliness in making the glasses ltd ed. I missed the 1st altogether, ordered the second only to have it cancelled. Guess the missed one of the family. As for the shirts living on the coast south of SF t-shirts are a waste of time. It hasn't gone over 60 yet. But I am very happy with the sweat shirts. Peace
Edit I guess is all you have to do is bitch a little. I just got an email they're sending it after all

I'm not a big fan of all the merchandise being flogged around The Dead...or other artists, for that matter. For me music, films and books are where its at.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 07:49

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....other than that terrapin garden statue, everything else looks like hot garbage. Reminds me of the Golden Knights last night. 🤮

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 07:56

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WTF happened? As tough as the knights are, I do not want to play the Wild! Some how they always seem to beat us? Every team has a “that team”, for the AVs it’s the Wild...so Go Knights! and,
GO LEAFS! and,
Na, na, naaaaa, na, hey eh a, good bye Sydney 😢

EDIT: I’m with you about that Garden Statue ; )

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 08:30

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Why are they touting all of this “garden stuff” when in fact they haven’t even shipped the Dave’s Glass yet?
At least they haven’t shipped my glass as of yet…….

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 09:19

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I thought the Astrology “Series” (really!?) blew! I guess if you have a Great Aunt that is a Dead Head and a gardener, ok on the apron, but if I even considered those garden ceramics (I won’t), they’d have a life expectancy of exactly one night before neighborhood kids turn them into road dust (see: Pumpkins, Snowmen; Christmas lights, etc).

Vegas is getting schooled by the Wild, not what I was expecting. But things can turn on a dime…

Oro - Your AVs are resting up, and whichever team they get next is going to be tired and banged up…as long as they don’t get overconfident…we may see you come the finals!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 10:20

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peddle merchandise that I have no interest in purchasing, ask me to join your mailing list every time I visit the site and force me to identify palm trees on top of mountains with motorcycles towing boats jumping over chimneys that land on stairs before I post, at least hire an intern to write an algorithm that allows me to search your chatrooms.

I can't tell you how many times I have attempted to find a prior post with no success. Usually, I scroll back four or five pages before I give up in frustration.

It's not that hard guys.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 11:00

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The below jig always comes to mind on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mup9CcPNs

Unsurprisingly, I find the Terrapin garden gnomes rather charming, I could see'em serenading goldfish in the fish pond out back...

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 15:16

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I draw the line at garden bear ceramic statues.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 15:47

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so silly.

who thought this up? gardening club?

"we are a bunch of people who love the music of a specific band. we get extremely happy with new releases by this band. we have happy memories, current fun, and future enjoyment of this band's music. we will GIVE you money for musical releases by this band."

"hey, fans of the specific band , how about buying some tutus, tiaras, clam juice, pencils, bottle caps, shovels, etc., instead?"

Proudfoot is now done with this topic. promise.

On the way home today: 5/19/77

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 05/27/2021 - 17:00

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X01lIQiqh3k. Great introduction, after a less then enthusiastic introduction the previous nights. Hey Dave , please release a 1969 box set , April 1969 , Avalon Ballroom and Ark. If not this year, consider it for an up coming year.

I really think I need a better sasquatch hunting vest. Try as I might.. I have yet to see one. Clearly I need some better gear.

Now if the Dave's Picks Bigfoot Hunting Vest (C) TM (R) was part of their springtime merch, needless to say I'd be all in.
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Ark Ark (who's there?)
Bigfoot
Bigfoot Who
Better get that big foot out of your ass and give us the 2021 Box Set announcement or we're gonna storm the vault and free April '69 and June '73.

Just sayin' Dave, box us this week.... or I will be forced to taunt you a second time.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 04:20

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Is shipping. Winterland is calling.

I would be happy with either. Every now and then he surprises us too.. which would be fine. I don't think we have a great accounting of what multi-tracks exist. For example, who ever knew we had a 48 track master from '91?

It's Happy Friday.. enjoy the day all.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 06:19

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I have nothing against them taking some time (within reason of course) to get everything just exactly perfect.

Ark Box, Fall 72, Feb 73 and perhaps another Winterland set would all be fine by me.

Carpe diem everybody, 'tis Friday! :-)

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 09:14

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That Skull & Roses is showing on the Big A for $21.99 and free S & H for us Prime folk...just Sayin'...I've always done it this way AND they've always been the lenticular covers too...

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 09:30

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39 years ago today, I was at the Moscone Center in S.F. to see the Dead play a benefit concert for Vietnam veterans. John Cippolina, and Boz Scaggs played with the Dead. Country Joe was also on the bill. It was a good show.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 12:37

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I was at the Moscone show that BtK mentions. I don’t remember much about the show, but I remember being really proud of myself for sneaking in.

In those days I used to pick up money doing under-the-table house painting jobs, and my friend and co-conspirator Dave somehow got a gig painting a building in the Haight that was owned by somebody his dad knew. So we were kind of living in this empty building while we did the work, and doing whatever at night. And on the night of the Moscone show we decided to head down there even though we had no tickets. We got there after the Dead had already started their set, but fortunately, I had devised a brilliant scheme.

“Dude, here’s what we do: let’s just walk up to the turnstiles and climb over like that’s just a totally normal thing to do. And if a security guy stops you, just say you’re looking for the bathroom and act like you can’t understand what the guy is saying because you’re really really stoned.”

(Which was not actually that much of a challenge. We had stopped off on the way to visit Dave's mom, who had affiliations with a well-known local biker gang--you can see in some of the Altamont scenes in Gimme Shelter. Suffice to say, she had access to the Good Stuff.)

So we get to the Moscone, and Dave and I just calmly climb over the turnstile right next to a bunch of security, like no big deal, so right away one of ‘em comes and asks to see our tickets. So I just started looking around with a puzzled expression on face and spouting gibberish. “Woah huh wah tickets? Aw gawd I gotta pee, right nooow! Where the bathroom at maaaan?” And the guy just sighed, rolled his eyes, and pointed me to the men’s room.

Probably I should feel bad about sneaking into a benefit. That’s gotta be some negative karma points.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/28/2021 - 19:11

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What shows would an Ark box consist of?

To Terrapin: Hartford 1977 anniversary today. My favorite Samson & Delilah is on there. Great God Alright talk wood! Also that 19 minute Sugaree. Now there's song I can take pre or post hiatus. Those E72 performances with Pigpen on the Hammond are perfect. But I can also settle into the long solo on this 5/28/77 show. The recording captures a bit more of something...crowd noise and instruments both I recall. I remember when this one came out. In hindsight it's an odd set list. None of the big combo songs like Estimated-Eyes, Scarlet-Fire,
Help-Slip-Franklin's. No Mississippi Half-Step. Maybe I'll put it on, it's been a while. As soon as the post-Alligator Jam from 3/2/69 is over.

Classic story Crow Told Me. I like how you were "kind of living" in the building you were painting :D

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