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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 9, 2021 - 5:54am

#321

Deadheadbrewer

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Curator Duties

It should be pointed out that when I picked 3/1/69, 8/27/72, 5/8/77, and 7/8/78 for enshrinement on the mountain, I was doing so with an eye toward the museum being accessible to any and all visitors, not just to the hard-core Heads. Are there shows I enjoy more than some of the shows I picked? Yes. But if I were to hold up the entirety of the Grateful Dead's live legacy to the general public, then I would tend toward representing it with shows that held instant appeal, that had stood the test of time, and that had other intriguing qualities about them besides the music.

Similarly, the Presidents enshrined on Mt. Rushmore (which I visited last fall) are not necessarily the BEST Presidents of all time, but are very famous Presidents with many intriguing stories and qualities about them. They were Presidents during exciting historical eras, and so got a bump in the standings partially by being around when times got interesting.

The four concerts I mentioned have great sound quality, which makes them accessible to all. The 1969 show demonstrates Primal Dead without scaring off the uninitiated, as an earlier show might. Veneta has the "sound" of LSD imprinted on it, plus has a groovy video to draw in those who need to view things to understand them. Cornell has volumes written about it, which allows a newbie to take a further historical dive after being drawn in, and Red Rocks has the amazing physical setting, which a newcomer could still visit or has visited.

PERSONAL Mt. Rushmore? Well, then, I might say 11/10/67, 11/17/73, 10/29/77, and 1/22/78. But then I would regret not having 2/14/68 or something from the Fillmore West Feb./March run . . .
July 9, 2021 - 5:15am

#322

Forensicdoceleven

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Providence was well aware what lay ahead for me.....

Well, if there has to be a 74, obviously it's Providence...........

Second tier:
10/13/68
11/8/69
9/20/70
12/14/71
5/3/72

See ya in the morgue,

Rock on!!

Doc
Providence has its appointed hour for everything. We cannot command results, we can only strive.....
July 9, 2021 - 5:02am

#323

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Agree.. I like my GD a little less refined

Warts and all..

I like seeing 2/14/68 on that list. I have an affinity for 5/26/72 as well.

I am not sure perfection really suited the Grateful Dead.. it was more the journey than the destination.. the long strange trip.

Good conversation though.. I am not much for picking winners and losers, more the last thing I listened too.. what I am listening to now and what may (or may not) come tomorrow.

So glad they recorded so much, very thankful for that. We might have to figure a way to carve a 74 show on that mountain too.. but we would never be able to agree on which one.
July 9, 2021 - 4:13am

#324

daverock

Joined:
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Big Beats from Badsville

Gary - the first book I read concerning the Beats was about them, rather than by one of them. Called "Kerouac" by Ann Charters ( I don't think she was "one" herself, but I may be wrong) Anyway-its a fascinating account of the real life events and characters and seemed to form the basis of many of Kerouac's best novels. Dharma Bums was the first novel I read by him. You have a treat in store!

Of the others, to me, William Burroughs seems the most interesting-although he is no one's idea of a hippy. My favourite book by him isn't a novel, its a collection of his letters from 1945-1959. There's also a great biography of him, by Barry Miles called simply "William S.Burroughs A Life". He also had a great voice - so its fascinating to hear him read his work on recordings.

Hendrixfreak - yes, it can be a bit meaningless comparing great shows from different eras. Even-especially- on their recordings. My two favourites by the Dead are "Anthem of the Sun" and "American Beauty". Good luck comparing the merits of those two before trying to decide which is best.
July 9, 2021 - 3:42am

#325

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
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The mountains are calling and I must go……

Yo! Rockers!!!

Let’s poke the bear, beat the beehive, stir up controversy, and then run for cover……..

My personal Mt Rushmore:
2/14/68
2/28/69
5/15/70
4/28/71
5/26/72

Of course, we need a larger mountain, so we can all add four or five shows to our list…..

Never particularly cared for Cornell. Possibly biased due to actually attending the show the previous night, and having an excellent soundboard recording of the following night. Not a bad show, per se, but I think that, like 4/29/71 and 8/27/72, one of the great overrated shows in Grateful Dead history.

There, I said it. I shall now go hide under a rock……………..

Rock on!!!

Doc
In the presence of eternity, the mountains are as transient as the clouds…..
July 8, 2021 - 9:01pm

#326

Vguy72

Joined:
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Gonna squeeze in the 1st set of 7.8.78....

....it's been a year since I've checked it out for dangs sake.
I'm waiting for a box packaging and art that tops July '78. Maybe the next one?
Edit....
I remember this Must Have Been The Roses. Very nice.
Edit again.....Mount Rushmore talk?
That's only 4. I'm good.
July 8, 2021 - 8:14pm

#327

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

The Stanley Cup finals sucked ass....

....but GarciaLive 16 more than makes up for it.
Time for baseball!! (Checks the NL East standings). Anywho....
July 8, 2021 - 7:16pm

#328

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Garcia 16

Sounds awesome.
I have the show on DVD with AUD sound.
Nice to hear a SBD recording.
July 8, 2021 - 5:59pm

#329

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Nikita Kucherov

His post game interview with the highlight of the night. A pretty boring game to end the season. Too bad.
July 8, 2021 - 5:34pm

#330

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Rushing more...

Just to toss in a grenade: I've never been impressed much by 5-8-77, Cornell. At all. It's a good show, but one of the ones in the box that precede impressed me more. But then I'm a died-in-the-wool Greaseman.

Personally I can't get into ranking stuff. I like "tiers," if you will: top-tier, mid-tier, etc. Even then, you groove with parts of a show, a whole show, is tonight vanilla bean ice cream or mint chip? Which flavor of Jerome do you like best? Is it an era? A specific guitar? What about the ensemble? Is Phil monstering and/or Billy? Is the tape exquisite cuz Bobby's high in the mix?

I guess for me it's a wonderful swirl of variables, any one or two or three that bubble to the top in a song, a sequence. And that's -- to me -- how it should be in a band of multiple humans (presumably) over time, using different instruments, playing different setlists in different venues and cities under various "conditions" (mine and theirs).

In short: Good Old Grateful Dead, a fascinating amalgam of elements, fired in the crucible of sound and time.

And I haven't hit the pipe yet............

John Perry Barlow

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Re/ Listening Dave’s Picks #17 ;)

... been listening to Dave’s pick #17, ;)
Sellland and Arena, Fresno,CA 7/19/74 ! Another primo pick by Dave ! The third disc alone will steal your face right off your head!” OhMan beautiful Jaming , everyone is “on” , I’m still totblown away. Jerry is just Jerry in every way, primo In73-74, either or an icon of excellence with in the musicianexceptship with the “Wall” The sound of his guitar ( who can name the guitar Jerry Garcia used in this performance?!?!) wicked stuff here folks!
SUMMER of 74’! Is Priceless !Theis complete performance and release in the Dave’s Picks Series #17 is a “primo” inclusion of complete recordings! It definitely stands on its own two feet! Loving this pick over & over again. Have a grateful day everyone! If you have some free time today listen to the third Cd from Dave’s picks #17 and feel the love in the air & all around you, peace be with you all’! Be safe be Kind and Please share some More “primo” SUMMEr 74’ This is the first of Nine acrossthe Country! Rock On! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Anthem of the Giants

Kind of surprised to see all the hockey talk around here, when the REAL sports story right now is the amazing SF GIANTS, who despite being projected for yet another losing season, have the best record in the National League! Woohoo!

In the Bay Area, love for the Giants AND the Dead can be almost hereditary, and the Giants are well aware of the cross over. They have been hosting a Grateful Dead Night for decades, and also a Jerry Garcia tribute night, with appearances by band members, special seating sections, various swag. (I’ve got a cool t-shirt with an orange and black SYF on it.) Band members often sing the national anthem for those games.

If anybody ever did a ranking of various Star Spangled Banners by the Dead, like some people have done with Dark Stars and whatnot, I think this version would rank pretty high. Listen to the crowd response at the end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67T_kjc64A

Go Giants!!!

Mike

I can't blame him. Being a Leafs fan is like enduring a Russian winter. He's bereft of hope.

Crow - playoffs always trump regular season. You should know that.

Sorry Mike...

I’m speechless!
My mantra now on that side is ANY ONE BUT BOSTON!
Hopefully someone from Canadaland...

As far as AVs, only five down so far, long way to go, so don’t jinx us ; )

Crow Told Me SSB

Yes, this is one of best versions I haver ever seen, but we are a little biased. I remember showing this to my wife a couple of years ago and she was impressed.

Thanks for posting the link. I miss those days.

GD National Anthem

Thanks Crow for reminding me of that absolutely patriotic moment! First heard it on the David Gans GD hour very near the date of its performance which was the Dead's first. In an attached interview on the GD Hour when asked why it took them so long to be asked to do it Bobby smarts off saying, " Because they knew it would take us a long time to learn it". Jerry takes the more thoughtful approach saying, "We are like bad architecture and old whores. After you've been around long enough you get some respect". Priceless! Vince really nails it and his harmonies get the applause especially on the high note. In another part of the interview Jerry is asked if he is a big Giants fan and again Bob jumps in with the dig, "Well he's not the smallest Giants fan." And again Jerry gives the more thoughtful reply, "Yeah, thanks (asshole). I guess we are like everybody; when they're doing well we start watching them. But I'm a San Francisco fan and they are our team."
How many National Anthems have they done?
P.S. It was not only the Dead's first time but it was opening day and the first female ballpark announcer in the history of baseball was also on her first day. Very historic indeed!

The Grateful Dead Movie

So the Grateful Dead Movie premiered today on June 1,1977. Anyone around here old enough to remember seeing it that summer. I went from Baltimore to DC to see it as the DC theater had an enhanced sound system especially for the movie. The opening animation was spectacular for its time (I actually still think it holds up quite well). The movie is a great tribute to the band and the audience (us deadheads). Captures the Dead concert experience quite well. If I didn't have every scene and line practically memorized I'd watch it again tonight in honor of the premiere. Oh, heck, why not one more time.

Oro

Thanks man. Just typical of this team. Like Jerry said about the Dead when it came to playing the “big” shows like Woodstock, they didn’t bring their A game. Must be the drinking water from Lake Ontario, has the same effect on the Buffalo Sabres, not to mention the “clutch kids”, the Bills.

I’m with you - anyone but Boston. Not to jinx, but the AVs are a pretty dynamic team, all down the lineup, so unless they do a Leaf, the Cup is theirs to lose. Vegas should come back swinging after the debacle the other night. But good luck to the AVs.

Time for a new avatar

the previous picture has me in my "covid shirt"

I want covid to be in the past

Did Miller bring back ponies?

1st for those too you to remember, in the 70's Miller beer brought out a 7oz bottle of Miller called ...you guessed it ponies. If my memory isn't totally gone there were 36 in a case. The idea was they wouldn't get warm at the beach
Where am I going with this? I received the Dave's glass today ( after they told me it was canceled). It's rather small. I like it but I'd like it better if it fit the beer I make

Snafu must have gotten the better paper padding....

....for the glass than I did. Good job!
I'm not buying the other two. I don't like my Mr. Hyde when he gets roused from his sleep. Good thing I didn't have the Workingman's hatchet Sunday. Could've gotten ugly. More for everyone else! Have at em.

Dave's Picks 38 9/8 Is Great

I got my drink on and finally had a shot to listen front to back without interruption. Zowie! I have never heard Bob Weir sound this good before. The audio is ok to me. I understand some people didn't care for it but I don't hear any issues other than the piano being too low. I should say steady issues. There are some spots where the audio drops but that is normal for these old recordings is what I have found.

As good as Bob Weir sounds, Jerry Garcia is playing some excellent stuff too. He always sounded good back then but there are some shows where he plays a little more frequently in a song. Me and My Uncle for example. He plays so many notes. Or Tennessee Jed. He plays an excellent guitar solo. Big River is as good as I have ever heard it. I would take a whole box set of these!

Glass

The Dave's picks glass is great for screwdrivers.

Butch

Did you know butch de feo died a while back? I guess his appeals have run out. I'm listening to veneta pitb and cant get enough.

Guilty Pleasures

Watching the Big Lebowski drinking a white russian.

Robes are underrated....

....see the post below.

Agreed

As long as Marchand is on the team - anyone but Boston.

Oh and by the way...

Happy 80th Birthday to da man, Charlie Watts!!!

Marchand

is like a hemorrhoid on skates

Rut, roh, Canes looking ready for the slaughter...

Yeah, I’ve been thinking it’s the water for a long time lol.

Guten Morgen, liebe Totenkopfen

Heute sollen wir 10/14/76 hoeren
mit
noch ein andere Schau
und noch ein andere
und so weiter

Wo denn ist der die das den dem box?

WAS IST LOS, DAVE?

Die Musik haltet nie

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I bin kein Roboter, du verfluchtes Ding

Stoltzfus,

good to hear you,
du hast absolut recht, wann kommt die Dave's box 2021?
Whatever you say, ich bin auf deiner Seite.
Biergärten are open again. Had my share so far!
Best wishes to all of you.
G.

Box Set

My German's pretty good.

I think what they are saying in the back and forth below is the box set announcement will come today at 4:00 PM EST. The 2021 box set will consist of the June 1973 RFK both the ABB and the Grateful Dead, every note and the Watkins Glen 1973, the complete recordings.

I think I will try my hand a reply.... again in German.

Dos cervezas por favor?

JIMINMD

Jim,
'73 is a good, good year.
Hope, you're right. Will wait till 10 pm our time here.
If so, cervezas are not an obstacle, not at all, tres or more would be more than angemessen.
Cheers
G.

Box set 2021

What I want, 6 random knockout shows from 1969. What I think it will be, 6 shows from 1980.

Box Set

Yeah, well I want a shrubbery! A nice one damnit!

oh yeah, Lockn 2021 cancelled :-(

Is Lockn truly cancelled?

I see online that it will be Oct. 1-3 with a Steal Your Thursday on 9/30.

Here's your shrubbery, Dennis. (I didn't know you were called Dennis...) Hmmmm....nice, green shrubbery.....

11/11/71 is getting a listen currently. Some interesting stage banter early on, but nothing yet has blown my mind.

"WWDS" = what would Doc say?

Well, Mike

Sorry to say, but I am now backing the Habs.

That hit by Scheifele was total BS. Intentional and meant to hurt Evans. It makes Marchand look respectable.

Lockn

Not sure if it was mentioned but...JRAD is now playing 6 sets over 3 nights at the Lockn Farm August 11-13. Tickets go on sale Friday and are reasonable at199$ for such high quality musicians. Frosting on the cake is 2 nights of late night led by John Medeski and Bill Martin...hell yes. Hopefully, they sneak in Wood and make it all out MMW latenight freekfest. I will be attending especially now thats its so small, this will be a special one.

And the answer is...

Dave's not here...

We live in a rainbow of chaos........

Yo rockers!!!

Atlanta. Chaos at the start. Bad vibes............

However, somebody who was there told me that once the radicals were calmed, that the music was good.......

Listening almost 50 years later, while the show has its moments, it pales in comparison to most other shows from November of 1971.

Just one man's opinion.

Hafta run to the morgue and start working..............

Rock on!

Doc
What we imagine is order is merely the prevailing form of chaos

Say It Ain’t So, Angry Jack!

That was a pretty vicious hit by Scheifele, definitely dangerous, and from the book of a Marchand or Kadri, but rooting for ….the Habs!?
Say it ain’t so, Jack!!

My money is on the AVs - these guys are like a steamroller. Pretty damn hard to stop them.

6 down...

I don’t know, the Knights did a pretty good job of slowing em down last night.
Unfortunately perhaps a few “non playoff” penalty’s in the mix, fug dat, let em play..

I don’t mind the Habs, I just like seeing other teams make it, but they sure look good right now.
Don’t think anyone saw that coming.

That hit was brutal, I still hurt!
It’s another one you have to see in real time as slo mo makes it seem worse.
Not justifying it, but if you see how fast they all were going you can maybe understand it?
I mean he was trying to stop a goal, BUT, like Enzo or somebody said, he never tried for the puck, just steamrolled the poor bastard. To me that’s the smoking gun. He wasn’t thinking about the puck.
Hope Evans is ok, cause he literally got run over!

Damn Knights....

....oh well. I'm going to the game on Sunday. They need some vguy luck.

Going to the game

SWEET! Oughta be a gas, especially if Vegas comes out flying like last night.
Bet they’ll win!
At least last night was a good game, though I felt some of the calls were lame and it might of hurt the knights accordingly...damn refs, let em play eh!

Where’s Waldo?

Dave said there were three other releases besides DaP this year...it’s June...?

Dave?

Any chance the shipping fiascos have delayed box set announcement? They might be avoiding a massive clusterfuck of shipping if they delay.

three other releases

S&R redo...coming later in the month

was the AB & 2/18/71 one of 'em?

box set...I really think they are going to wait on the new box until the holiday season. I hope I am wrong...

Lack of balance

It always seems to me to upset the balance of things a bit, announcing two Dave's Picks - and the bonus disc trick- at around the same time, in order to attract subscriptions. There then seems to be months and months with no decent announcements at all.

Box set

I think the box set will be announced next tues, wed, or thurs, from 9a.m. to 10a.m. p.s.t. No inside info, just a guess.

Oroborous

Does that include the Garden Club?

Deadvikes...lol

garden club...wow.

DV

Too funny!
Let’s hope not!

Now I’m losing my mind (what’s left of it), but I coulda swore that Dave said on one of this years videos, perhaps the last one, that there were going to be 3 more releases besides DaP.
Maybe it was for the S&R chat, so I don’t think that one counts, and no it’s not the AB bonus show, this was after all that...
I also seem to recall they used to do more releases for the holidaze, which would make sense from a marketing position. Remember a few years I had already used up my allotment with Santa, them all of a sudden these guys would drop something that I just had to have, which of course pissed Santa off cause now we’re over budget!

If I was in charge, we’d get 1 big (ger) box, 1 smaller i.e. RFK, 5 or 6 Dave’s a year, plus....?
Hell, if I were in charge I’d be spitting out as much of the vault as they can lol.

EDIT: it seems like maybe, finally, they rectified the shipping issues as I don’t recall seeing here too many problems this time, of course that’s DaP, ahem, not glassware etc...

I am really loving these…

I am really loving these Nassau shows. Wish we had all of 9.7. Greedy, I know. 73 really takes me there in general. That bouncing, joyful, tight vibe....pure beauty in my opinion. Cannot wait for Skull Fuck 50! Cheers! Peace and love, friends.

Going to spread some luck

VGuy - That’s awesome you are going to the game Sunday - you’ll see a great one. However, you mention about “ They need some vguy luck”, and then I see your current avatar….
Just saying.

Recommendation:
No - Strong Recommendation: While we await a box set announcement, for those that enjoy their jazz sans horns, the new Dave Holland “Another Land” is amazing! Great guitar by Kevin Eubanks (who used to be in one of the tv talk show house bands), and Holland is incredible, as always.

But What About

But but but what about....Gainesville???
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-11-29.nak700.wagner.miller.90104.sbe…

Someone's gotta toss this out there every now and then to keep things real.
Can't get enough of that Shakedown > Franklin's; its like a warm blanket.

Sixtus

The Next Box...

Anyone else notice how few, if any, delivery problems were reported here for DaP’s 38?

I suspect they’ve quietly addressed the issues that were widely discussed/shared for previous releases. Yes, wishful thinking is involved here.

Gives me confidence that a box set or two could be successfully announced/delivered this year.

My guess is that Rhino has been dealing with the same supplier/distribution issues that many companies are still facing.

Gotta believe Rhino is just as anxious to increase income as any other company during these strange times.

I think we’ll be hearing from Dave soon.

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