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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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June 23, 2021 - 3:35pm

#601

Gary Farseer

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Concur

Oro be safe. Hate the west gets so many fires. Hoping for rain your way!
June 23, 2021 - 3:08pm

#602

That Mike

Joined:
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Shouting Fire On A Crowded Dead Site

Hey Oro - How are efforts going to contain that wild fire just beyond your property? How many acres is it now, and are you near an evacuation situation? Stay safe, my friend!

AJS - Two good choices to build a team around. When Seattle comes in next season, like Vegas before them, they should have some premium guys to pick from for Season 1. When I head over to Vancouver to see my son who lives there, I’ll definitely coordinate it so I can make the trek down to Seattle to see the Kraken.

Do or die for the Isles tonight. Tampa Bay is a powerhouse, but the Isles are the proverbial flies at a picnic - pesky, and always in your face. Tomorrow, Vegas has the same challenge, but I keep thinking they are the far superior team, I feel like they just let the Habs get in their head.
Man, I love playoffs.
June 23, 2021 - 1:22pm

#603

Gary Farseer

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Dogon

Deadbase shows they Played 1970/05/25 in London with Fleetwood Mac. I think that is enlickely. I think they planned to go back to London for a couple of days. You know, make the long trip, might as well see the historical sights while there. I mean history of England, and history of the other psychedelic scene. Hunter says on the documentary (which I am going to watch again as I have it on my dvr) that the rest of the entourage went out for the day and left him with a case of wine in his room alone. While looking out on the bustling streets of London he felt a peaceful wave (my words) overcome him and the muse directed him to pen the lyrics to those three songs.

Therefore, I am guessing a promoter at the Hollywood Festival started talking to Jerry (or another) where it was explained they would be in London for some period. It might have only been 2-3 days tops. No one knows for sure. So I think this promoter was trying to set up an impromptu gig for the next day after Hollywood. Maybe it was too much work to get down and get announced and get ticket sales, so it fell through. My guess is the fellas were leaving next day on the 26th, so another date would not work. Workingman's was released within a few days of the Festival, in May.

Deadbase shows the first To Lay Me Down was on 1970/07/30. It only shows an accoustic set so I am assuming an electric set is lost. This show was at the Fillmore West (Avalon Ballroom???, cant remember if that was the previous name) with NRPS. The first Ripple and Brokedown were on 1970/08/18 with NRPS. This occurred at the Matrix, wow what a small venue for that show. Even better, accoustic Ripple into Brokedown.

I have never heard any of these shows. I think when Writing the Book of the Deadheads (Grushkin Basset, Grushken), they along withthe guys at Deadbase began going back to research shows. Who knows. As they went thru the archives of material they put together a lot of the non documented things. So I think these were the folks that probably stumbled on things that didnt have the right documentation. So Stand Lyceum London almost certainly did not happen. You say yourself, you would have made it for sure!!!

Hope that helps from the little bit of knowledge I have. Two England shows before E72. There is still so much to uncover with this band. Sometimes it makes my head swim.

G
June 23, 2021 - 11:44am

#604

Dogon

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A rose by any other name

Gary, I always refer to the festival as Hollywood, Newcastle under Lyme, but all of your additions (aka) are also correct, they simply locate the space more specifically...(and Space is the place!)
But did the Dead play London directly afterwards? My understanding is that prior to72 they only played twice in Europe, the Chateaux in France and later Hollywood. I have read that they played in London, but I have always thought this to be incorrect ( wild horses wouldnt have kept me away if they were to play in my Hood!)
Did they actually play or was this a hastily cobbled together plan which fell through? An urban myth....? We know that the Lyceum shows in 72 were added as the tour progressed, and shows planned for the Rainbow/Finsbury Park Astoria fell through...perhaps Simonrob knows more?
June 23, 2021 - 11:35am

#605

daverock

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Robert Hunter - Jerry Garcia

Interesting to me that all ( well, lets say most, to be on the safe side) of Robert Hunter's songs were definitively interpreted by other people, not himself. His own records always felt more like fringe benefits to me, rather than A1 records.
And of those that sang his songs, Jerry Garcia was surely the one who seemed most in tune with the words he was singing. In fact when he was singing them-at his peak - it seemed he was expressing his own world view in song, rather than someone else's. I guess that is the mark of all great interpretive singers.
June 23, 2021 - 10:29am

#606

proudfoot

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Oroborous....

ouch.

(I depart for the airport at noon)
June 23, 2021 - 9:26am

#607

Angry Jack Straw

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So when I start my next hockey team

My first two picks after Price are going to be Gallagher and Suzuki. They are not marquee names, but those guys are grinders who do the little things that win games.
June 23, 2021 - 9:10am

#608

Gary Farseer

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Mr. Hunter

He is the man.

I think it is own the documentary "From Anthem to Beauty" that Mr. Hunter talks about writing Ripple, To Lay Me Down, and Brokedown Palace in one day while in London with the fellas. I think he said 1970. So is this a on May 25, 1970 when the dead were getting ready to play the The Stand Lyceum in London? Of course this is the day after playing Newcastle-Under-Lyme or Hollywood Festival or Lower Finney Green Farm, Leycett.

Maybe Dogon could help with what the actual title of this venue and festival is. I assume it is just some minor dispute based on land allotment., or something to that effect.
June 23, 2021 - 8:15am

#609

That Mike

Joined:
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Boni Joni

I never saw Joni in concert, but in 2013 she was invited to speak at a New York Times Talks with host Jon Pareles, just prior to a 70th Tribute Concert being held for her by Herbie Hancock et al at Massey Hall. I couldn’t get tix for the musical part (house band had Bill Frisell in it, a favourite), but I got tix for the NY Times talk, held at a small concert hall at the University of Toronto. She appeared with drummer Brian Blade (who I saw a few years later play with Wayne Shorter - WOW!), and it was about a 90 minute talk, and she was quite fascinating. She spoke in depth of her career, how she played coffee houses a block or two away in the 60s, her breakout career in California, her love of jazz, and the art of Emily Carr. She is a fascinating individual, a good songwriter and a very good visual artist. It was a really enjoyable evening, and I got a lot out of it, quite different than a concert. Her health is bad now (she smokes incessantly), but I wish her well, and she was yet another color in the palette that is music.
June 23, 2021 - 7:46am

#610

hendrixfreak

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Robert Hunter

Correction: The Grateful Dead could not have been who they became if it wasn't for Robert Hunter. He was the thought man, the wordsmith, who made them great. Without him? Nothing to catalyze around and nothing for the listeners to truly sink their teeth into, nothing to sing , future uncertain, at best.

Edit: I'm gettin' antsy, wanting to know whether the box announcement will be a pass or fail in my book.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Re/ Listening Dave’s Picks #17 ;)

... been listening to Dave’s pick #17, ;)
Sellland and Arena, Fresno,CA 7/19/74 ! Another primo pick by Dave ! The third disc alone will steal your face right off your head!” OhMan beautiful Jaming , everyone is “on” , I’m still totblown away. Jerry is just Jerry in every way, primo In73-74, either or an icon of excellence with in the musicianexceptship with the “Wall” The sound of his guitar ( who can name the guitar Jerry Garcia used in this performance?!?!) wicked stuff here folks!
SUMMER of 74’! Is Priceless !Theis complete performance and release in the Dave’s Picks Series #17 is a “primo” inclusion of complete recordings! It definitely stands on its own two feet! Loving this pick over & over again. Have a grateful day everyone! If you have some free time today listen to the third Cd from Dave’s picks #17 and feel the love in the air & all around you, peace be with you all’! Be safe be Kind and Please share some More “primo” SUMMEr 74’ This is the first of Nine acrossthe Country! Rock On! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Anthem of the Giants

Kind of surprised to see all the hockey talk around here, when the REAL sports story right now is the amazing SF GIANTS, who despite being projected for yet another losing season, have the best record in the National League! Woohoo!

In the Bay Area, love for the Giants AND the Dead can be almost hereditary, and the Giants are well aware of the cross over. They have been hosting a Grateful Dead Night for decades, and also a Jerry Garcia tribute night, with appearances by band members, special seating sections, various swag. (I’ve got a cool t-shirt with an orange and black SYF on it.) Band members often sing the national anthem for those games.

If anybody ever did a ranking of various Star Spangled Banners by the Dead, like some people have done with Dark Stars and whatnot, I think this version would rank pretty high. Listen to the crowd response at the end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67T_kjc64A

Go Giants!!!

Mike

I can't blame him. Being a Leafs fan is like enduring a Russian winter. He's bereft of hope.

Crow - playoffs always trump regular season. You should know that.

Sorry Mike...

I’m speechless!
My mantra now on that side is ANY ONE BUT BOSTON!
Hopefully someone from Canadaland...

As far as AVs, only five down so far, long way to go, so don’t jinx us ; )

Crow Told Me SSB

Yes, this is one of best versions I haver ever seen, but we are a little biased. I remember showing this to my wife a couple of years ago and she was impressed.

Thanks for posting the link. I miss those days.

GD National Anthem

Thanks Crow for reminding me of that absolutely patriotic moment! First heard it on the David Gans GD hour very near the date of its performance which was the Dead's first. In an attached interview on the GD Hour when asked why it took them so long to be asked to do it Bobby smarts off saying, " Because they knew it would take us a long time to learn it". Jerry takes the more thoughtful approach saying, "We are like bad architecture and old whores. After you've been around long enough you get some respect". Priceless! Vince really nails it and his harmonies get the applause especially on the high note. In another part of the interview Jerry is asked if he is a big Giants fan and again Bob jumps in with the dig, "Well he's not the smallest Giants fan." And again Jerry gives the more thoughtful reply, "Yeah, thanks (asshole). I guess we are like everybody; when they're doing well we start watching them. But I'm a San Francisco fan and they are our team."
How many National Anthems have they done?
P.S. It was not only the Dead's first time but it was opening day and the first female ballpark announcer in the history of baseball was also on her first day. Very historic indeed!

The Grateful Dead Movie

So the Grateful Dead Movie premiered today on June 1,1977. Anyone around here old enough to remember seeing it that summer. I went from Baltimore to DC to see it as the DC theater had an enhanced sound system especially for the movie. The opening animation was spectacular for its time (I actually still think it holds up quite well). The movie is a great tribute to the band and the audience (us deadheads). Captures the Dead concert experience quite well. If I didn't have every scene and line practically memorized I'd watch it again tonight in honor of the premiere. Oh, heck, why not one more time.

Oro

Thanks man. Just typical of this team. Like Jerry said about the Dead when it came to playing the “big” shows like Woodstock, they didn’t bring their A game. Must be the drinking water from Lake Ontario, has the same effect on the Buffalo Sabres, not to mention the “clutch kids”, the Bills.

I’m with you - anyone but Boston. Not to jinx, but the AVs are a pretty dynamic team, all down the lineup, so unless they do a Leaf, the Cup is theirs to lose. Vegas should come back swinging after the debacle the other night. But good luck to the AVs.

Time for a new avatar

the previous picture has me in my "covid shirt"

I want covid to be in the past

Did Miller bring back ponies?

1st for those too you to remember, in the 70's Miller beer brought out a 7oz bottle of Miller called ...you guessed it ponies. If my memory isn't totally gone there were 36 in a case. The idea was they wouldn't get warm at the beach
Where am I going with this? I received the Dave's glass today ( after they told me it was canceled). It's rather small. I like it but I'd like it better if it fit the beer I make

Snafu must have gotten the better paper padding....

....for the glass than I did. Good job!
I'm not buying the other two. I don't like my Mr. Hyde when he gets roused from his sleep. Good thing I didn't have the Workingman's hatchet Sunday. Could've gotten ugly. More for everyone else! Have at em.

Dave's Picks 38 9/8 Is Great

I got my drink on and finally had a shot to listen front to back without interruption. Zowie! I have never heard Bob Weir sound this good before. The audio is ok to me. I understand some people didn't care for it but I don't hear any issues other than the piano being too low. I should say steady issues. There are some spots where the audio drops but that is normal for these old recordings is what I have found.

As good as Bob Weir sounds, Jerry Garcia is playing some excellent stuff too. He always sounded good back then but there are some shows where he plays a little more frequently in a song. Me and My Uncle for example. He plays so many notes. Or Tennessee Jed. He plays an excellent guitar solo. Big River is as good as I have ever heard it. I would take a whole box set of these!

Glass

The Dave's picks glass is great for screwdrivers.

Butch

Did you know butch de feo died a while back? I guess his appeals have run out. I'm listening to veneta pitb and cant get enough.

Guilty Pleasures

Watching the Big Lebowski drinking a white russian.

Robes are underrated....

....see the post below.

Agreed

As long as Marchand is on the team - anyone but Boston.

Oh and by the way...

Happy 80th Birthday to da man, Charlie Watts!!!

Marchand

is like a hemorrhoid on skates

Rut, roh, Canes looking ready for the slaughter...

Yeah, I’ve been thinking it’s the water for a long time lol.

Guten Morgen, liebe Totenkopfen

Heute sollen wir 10/14/76 hoeren
mit
noch ein andere Schau
und noch ein andere
und so weiter

Wo denn ist der die das den dem box?

WAS IST LOS, DAVE?

Die Musik haltet nie

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I bin kein Roboter, du verfluchtes Ding

Stoltzfus,

good to hear you,
du hast absolut recht, wann kommt die Dave's box 2021?
Whatever you say, ich bin auf deiner Seite.
Biergärten are open again. Had my share so far!
Best wishes to all of you.
G.

Box Set

My German's pretty good.

I think what they are saying in the back and forth below is the box set announcement will come today at 4:00 PM EST. The 2021 box set will consist of the June 1973 RFK both the ABB and the Grateful Dead, every note and the Watkins Glen 1973, the complete recordings.

I think I will try my hand a reply.... again in German.

Dos cervezas por favor?

JIMINMD

Jim,
'73 is a good, good year.
Hope, you're right. Will wait till 10 pm our time here.
If so, cervezas are not an obstacle, not at all, tres or more would be more than angemessen.
Cheers
G.

Box set 2021

What I want, 6 random knockout shows from 1969. What I think it will be, 6 shows from 1980.

Box Set

Yeah, well I want a shrubbery! A nice one damnit!

oh yeah, Lockn 2021 cancelled :-(

Is Lockn truly cancelled?

I see online that it will be Oct. 1-3 with a Steal Your Thursday on 9/30.

Here's your shrubbery, Dennis. (I didn't know you were called Dennis...) Hmmmm....nice, green shrubbery.....

11/11/71 is getting a listen currently. Some interesting stage banter early on, but nothing yet has blown my mind.

"WWDS" = what would Doc say?

Well, Mike

Sorry to say, but I am now backing the Habs.

That hit by Scheifele was total BS. Intentional and meant to hurt Evans. It makes Marchand look respectable.

Lockn

Not sure if it was mentioned but...JRAD is now playing 6 sets over 3 nights at the Lockn Farm August 11-13. Tickets go on sale Friday and are reasonable at199$ for such high quality musicians. Frosting on the cake is 2 nights of late night led by John Medeski and Bill Martin...hell yes. Hopefully, they sneak in Wood and make it all out MMW latenight freekfest. I will be attending especially now thats its so small, this will be a special one.

And the answer is...

Dave's not here...

We live in a rainbow of chaos........

Yo rockers!!!

Atlanta. Chaos at the start. Bad vibes............

However, somebody who was there told me that once the radicals were calmed, that the music was good.......

Listening almost 50 years later, while the show has its moments, it pales in comparison to most other shows from November of 1971.

Just one man's opinion.

Hafta run to the morgue and start working..............

Rock on!

Doc
What we imagine is order is merely the prevailing form of chaos

Say It Ain’t So, Angry Jack!

That was a pretty vicious hit by Scheifele, definitely dangerous, and from the book of a Marchand or Kadri, but rooting for ….the Habs!?
Say it ain’t so, Jack!!

My money is on the AVs - these guys are like a steamroller. Pretty damn hard to stop them.

6 down...

I don’t know, the Knights did a pretty good job of slowing em down last night.
Unfortunately perhaps a few “non playoff” penalty’s in the mix, fug dat, let em play..

I don’t mind the Habs, I just like seeing other teams make it, but they sure look good right now.
Don’t think anyone saw that coming.

That hit was brutal, I still hurt!
It’s another one you have to see in real time as slo mo makes it seem worse.
Not justifying it, but if you see how fast they all were going you can maybe understand it?
I mean he was trying to stop a goal, BUT, like Enzo or somebody said, he never tried for the puck, just steamrolled the poor bastard. To me that’s the smoking gun. He wasn’t thinking about the puck.
Hope Evans is ok, cause he literally got run over!

Damn Knights....

....oh well. I'm going to the game on Sunday. They need some vguy luck.

Going to the game

SWEET! Oughta be a gas, especially if Vegas comes out flying like last night.
Bet they’ll win!
At least last night was a good game, though I felt some of the calls were lame and it might of hurt the knights accordingly...damn refs, let em play eh!

Where’s Waldo?

Dave said there were three other releases besides DaP this year...it’s June...?

Dave?

Any chance the shipping fiascos have delayed box set announcement? They might be avoiding a massive clusterfuck of shipping if they delay.

three other releases

S&R redo...coming later in the month

was the AB & 2/18/71 one of 'em?

box set...I really think they are going to wait on the new box until the holiday season. I hope I am wrong...

Lack of balance

It always seems to me to upset the balance of things a bit, announcing two Dave's Picks - and the bonus disc trick- at around the same time, in order to attract subscriptions. There then seems to be months and months with no decent announcements at all.

Box set

I think the box set will be announced next tues, wed, or thurs, from 9a.m. to 10a.m. p.s.t. No inside info, just a guess.

Oroborous

Does that include the Garden Club?

Deadvikes...lol

garden club...wow.

DV

Too funny!
Let’s hope not!

Now I’m losing my mind (what’s left of it), but I coulda swore that Dave said on one of this years videos, perhaps the last one, that there were going to be 3 more releases besides DaP.
Maybe it was for the S&R chat, so I don’t think that one counts, and no it’s not the AB bonus show, this was after all that...
I also seem to recall they used to do more releases for the holidaze, which would make sense from a marketing position. Remember a few years I had already used up my allotment with Santa, them all of a sudden these guys would drop something that I just had to have, which of course pissed Santa off cause now we’re over budget!

If I was in charge, we’d get 1 big (ger) box, 1 smaller i.e. RFK, 5 or 6 Dave’s a year, plus....?
Hell, if I were in charge I’d be spitting out as much of the vault as they can lol.

EDIT: it seems like maybe, finally, they rectified the shipping issues as I don’t recall seeing here too many problems this time, of course that’s DaP, ahem, not glassware etc...

I am really loving these…

I am really loving these Nassau shows. Wish we had all of 9.7. Greedy, I know. 73 really takes me there in general. That bouncing, joyful, tight vibe....pure beauty in my opinion. Cannot wait for Skull Fuck 50! Cheers! Peace and love, friends.

Going to spread some luck

VGuy - That’s awesome you are going to the game Sunday - you’ll see a great one. However, you mention about “ They need some vguy luck”, and then I see your current avatar….
Just saying.

Recommendation:
No - Strong Recommendation: While we await a box set announcement, for those that enjoy their jazz sans horns, the new Dave Holland “Another Land” is amazing! Great guitar by Kevin Eubanks (who used to be in one of the tv talk show house bands), and Holland is incredible, as always.

But What About

But but but what about....Gainesville???
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-11-29.nak700.wagner.miller.90104.sbe…

Someone's gotta toss this out there every now and then to keep things real.
Can't get enough of that Shakedown > Franklin's; its like a warm blanket.

Sixtus

The Next Box...

Anyone else notice how few, if any, delivery problems were reported here for DaP’s 38?

I suspect they’ve quietly addressed the issues that were widely discussed/shared for previous releases. Yes, wishful thinking is involved here.

Gives me confidence that a box set or two could be successfully announced/delivered this year.

My guess is that Rhino has been dealing with the same supplier/distribution issues that many companies are still facing.

Gotta believe Rhino is just as anxious to increase income as any other company during these strange times.

I think we’ll be hearing from Dave soon.

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