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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

     *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    It should be pointed out that when I picked 3/1/69, 8/27/72, 5/8/77, and 7/8/78 for enshrinement on the mountain, I was doing so with an eye toward the museum being accessible to any and all visitors, not just to the hard-core Heads. Are there shows I enjoy more than some of the shows I picked? Yes. But if I were to hold up the entirety of the Grateful Dead's live legacy to the general public, then I would tend toward representing it with shows that held instant appeal, that had stood the test of time, and that had other intriguing qualities about them besides the music.

    Similarly, the Presidents enshrined on Mt. Rushmore (which I visited last fall) are not necessarily the BEST Presidents of all time, but are very famous Presidents with many intriguing stories and qualities about them. They were Presidents during exciting historical eras, and so got a bump in the standings partially by being around when times got interesting.

    The four concerts I mentioned have great sound quality, which makes them accessible to all. The 1969 show demonstrates Primal Dead without scaring off the uninitiated, as an earlier show might. Veneta has the "sound" of LSD imprinted on it, plus has a groovy video to draw in those who need to view things to understand them. Cornell has volumes written about it, which allows a newbie to take a further historical dive after being drawn in, and Red Rocks has the amazing physical setting, which a newcomer could still visit or has visited.

    PERSONAL Mt. Rushmore? Well, then, I might say 11/10/67, 11/17/73, 10/29/77, and 1/22/78. But then I would regret not having 2/14/68 or something from the Fillmore West Feb./March run . . .

  • #322
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    Providence was well aware what lay ahead for me.....

    Well, if there has to be a 74, obviously it's Providence...........

    Second tier:
    10/13/68
    11/8/69
    9/20/70
    12/14/71
    5/3/72

    See ya in the morgue,

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    Providence has its appointed hour for everything. We cannot command results, we can only strive.....

  • #323
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    Agree.. I like my GD a little less refined

    Warts and all..

    I like seeing 2/14/68 on that list. I have an affinity for 5/26/72 as well.

    I am not sure perfection really suited the Grateful Dead.. it was more the journey than the destination.. the long strange trip.

    Good conversation though.. I am not much for picking winners and losers, more the last thing I listened too.. what I am listening to now and what may (or may not) come tomorrow.

    So glad they recorded so much, very thankful for that. We might have to figure a way to carve a 74 show on that mountain too.. but we would never be able to agree on which one.

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    Gary - the first book I read concerning the Beats was about them, rather than by one of them. Called "Kerouac" by Ann Charters ( I don't think she was "one" herself, but I may be wrong) Anyway-its a fascinating account of the real life events and characters and seemed to form the basis of many of Kerouac's best novels. Dharma Bums was the first novel I read by him. You have a treat in store!

    Of the others, to me, William Burroughs seems the most interesting-although he is no one's idea of a hippy. My favourite book by him isn't a novel, its a collection of his letters from 1945-1959. There's also a great biography of him, by Barry Miles called simply "William S.Burroughs A Life". He also had a great voice - so its fascinating to hear him read his work on recordings.

    Hendrixfreak - yes, it can be a bit meaningless comparing great shows from different eras. Even-especially- on their recordings. My two favourites by the Dead are "Anthem of the Sun" and "American Beauty". Good luck comparing the merits of those two before trying to decide which is best.

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    The mountains are calling and I must go……

    Yo! Rockers!!!

    Let’s poke the bear, beat the beehive, stir up controversy, and then run for cover……..

    My personal Mt Rushmore:
    2/14/68
    2/28/69
    5/15/70
    4/28/71
    5/26/72

    Of course, we need a larger mountain, so we can all add four or five shows to our list…..

    Never particularly cared for Cornell. Possibly biased due to actually attending the show the previous night, and having an excellent soundboard recording of the following night. Not a bad show, per se, but I think that, like 4/29/71 and 8/27/72, one of the great overrated shows in Grateful Dead history.

    There, I said it. I shall now go hide under a rock……………..

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    In the presence of eternity, the mountains are as transient as the clouds…..

  • #326
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    Gonna squeeze in the 1st set of 7.8.78....

    ....it's been a year since I've checked it out for dangs sake.
    I'm waiting for a box packaging and art that tops July '78. Maybe the next one?
    Edit....
    I remember this Must Have Been The Roses. Very nice.
    Edit again.....Mount Rushmore talk?
    That's only 4. I'm good.

  • #327
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    The Stanley Cup finals sucked ass....

    ....but GarciaLive 16 more than makes up for it.
    Time for baseball!! (Checks the NL East standings). Anywho....

  • #328
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    Garcia 16

    Sounds awesome.
    I have the show on DVD with AUD sound.
    Nice to hear a SBD recording.

  • #329
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    Nikita Kucherov

    His post game interview with the highlight of the night. A pretty boring game to end the season. Too bad.

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    Just to toss in a grenade: I've never been impressed much by 5-8-77, Cornell. At all. It's a good show, but one of the ones in the box that precede impressed me more. But then I'm a died-in-the-wool Greaseman.

    Personally I can't get into ranking stuff. I like "tiers," if you will: top-tier, mid-tier, etc. Even then, you groove with parts of a show, a whole show, is tonight vanilla bean ice cream or mint chip? Which flavor of Jerome do you like best? Is it an era? A specific guitar? What about the ensemble? Is Phil monstering and/or Billy? Is the tape exquisite cuz Bobby's high in the mix?

    I guess for me it's a wonderful swirl of variables, any one or two or three that bubble to the top in a song, a sequence. And that's -- to me -- how it should be in a band of multiple humans (presumably) over time, using different instruments, playing different setlists in different venues and cities under various "conditions" (mine and theirs).

    In short: Good Old Grateful Dead, a fascinating amalgam of elements, fired in the crucible of sound and time.

    And I haven't hit the pipe yet............

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 04:26

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Something's different with the interface here.

Don't we sometimes see changes right before an announcement?

#BoxMe

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 04:38

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Yes, it all looks a bit odd. After logging on a box appeared asking if I wanted to translate from Russian!-despite the fact that the text still seems to be in English.
Then the format is different, and a message appears telling me I can no longer post new messages on the forum. So it will be interesting to see if this message appears.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:04

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Translate to Russian?!

They are going to have to get this box set announcement out the door today. They're going to need many bitcoins to pay the ransom and get their website back!

Sending a PM is nearly impossible.. Count Vlad has taken over the website.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:19

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That the website has been redesigned.

A little disorienting at first. Glad I’m sober or I would have been really confused.

Edit:
reCRAPTCHA appears to be the same.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:23

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Come on Dave,
What’s the hold up?

Time to hire a Vault assistant or two.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:38

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soon there won't be anything left of the old guard

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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 06:41

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So they can't even get a website update right. If I scroll down to below the 10 displayed posts so I can add a new post, I first encounter another version of the header text followed by a buttload of posts in ascending order starting with the original Vguy post #1. The avatars on these old posts are huge, so I can now fully appreciate the broken fragments of Vguy's glass. After this multitude of old posts I then come to where I can type this in, but the text box is wider than the screen on my mobile. Tragic really.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 06:46

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I just applied and got an immediate response. It looks like I got the Archivist Intern job at Rhino, my mom is so proud. First things first.. what to do with Dave for the next couple years?... mmmmm

#RFK1973orBust

Edit: You're right SimonRob.. we get a close up view peoples Avatar's when we reply. It looks like someone went to town on VGuy's glass with a WorkingMan's Dead Hatchet!

Speaking of the hatchet.. it's the perfect weapon for an angry mob to wield and take over the vault. Just saying.. how many of us are there with these hatchets that have yet to see our favorite 1973 set of shows released? I'm not sure they thought this one through.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:08

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ConeKid...this show and in particular, the transition of which you speak is as good as you have discovered. Sublime, smooth, like buttaaah. It's just sooooo good, makes me wonder why they didn't do that more often. Love this show, it is release worthy IMHO.

Sixtus

P.S. I feel like I am back on dial-up and using AOL with this new website design. It almost seems as if someone did something half way then just said fuck it.

Sorry about your glass VGuy...the picture says it all. Consider it the most challenging 3-D puzzle ever. And it appears my glass is out for delivery. We shall see if we can swap shards.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:14

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Or Stormy Daniels? It’s too early for this I’m all confused?
Well Jim if it’s obviously ok for a mob of traitors to storm the capital with no repercussions, storming the vault seems like a no brainer!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:18

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VGuy.. get some super glue and two part epoxy. You can rebuild it..

better, stonger, faster than it was before.

Oh, right on Oroborous.. alright everyone, get your Workingman's Dead Hatchets.. meet you in Burbank. I'll be the one wearing a tie dye waving my WMD hatchet in the air getting tased by TSA.

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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 09:32

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"Why are things so Strange around here?"

I think it has something to do with Gainsville... obviously.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 10:01

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So what about Gainesville?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 10:44

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Banesville
Canesville
Danesville
Feignsville
Hanesville
Janesville (Wisconsin)
Kanesville
Lanesville
Mainsville
Painsville
Rainsville
Sanesville
Tamesville
Vainsville
Wanesville
Zanesville

Robotsville (eyeroll)

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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 13:27

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"This Florida city heard a sick Shakedown Street at Alligator Alley in Nov., 1980."

"What is Gainesville, Alex?"

"Gainsville is correct. And that transition to Franklin's is pretty dope too".

"Indeed"

"..transition into Franklin's is pretty dope."

Wow.. you cannot edit posts? Fuck.. what if you make a mistake or curse or something.

Edit: Shit. I cursed.

Edit 2: Apparently you can edit and recursively erase your curse worded posts.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 15:22

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But the titles look better in bold than plain text.

The most recent site version didn’t show the post that you were responding to, whereas older site versions did show the post.
It’s helpful when you are typing a post and forget what you were responding to.

Edit:
The box that you type in is still really small on an iPad, hard to see what you are typing.
But the member photo is huge.
The web designer screwed up and switched which box was supposed to be large.

1) The old site was old and outdated.

2) The old site was overloaded with spam and needed a flush.

3) This site is now being hosted by Fancy Bear.

4) A revved up website is needed so that it doesn’t crash with the upcoming Box announcement.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 17:40

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You are correct, sir. Too funny.

...and Conekid, your top 10 list of reasons they needed to update the website is spot on.

PM's are twilight zone weird...

And what's with the Russian thing. I mean, really? How did that get into the mix?

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 19:11

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Been a long time since I spun this one. Not too shabby. I literally type off the side of my phone on this and can't read either margin when I type. Somebody didn't test this on Android phones. Or maybe we're testing it for them. I think they were unprepared for Flash deprecation.

Omg Oroborous your dog is eating his tail.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 21:06

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Let the wheels roll free

Heading south on I5 to Oregon thick traffic

Wife driving

About 100 ft ahead a big collision occurred

She steered through and kept going

Sobering moment, gents

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 22:28

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....but at least Vegas won.
The edit button is on the left.
Got it.
Stoltz's wife can drive!
So can my wife. She drives big rigs for a living! New format is definitely not Android friendly at all.
Why is there an APPLY button on the screen?

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 02:36

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That button is there so that you can apply for membership of the Garden Club.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 09:01

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these guys on this site could fuck up a wet dream, why? why did they do this? Hey, who ever did this, you suck. Oh well, just like the rest of the what's left of the Grateful Dead, fucking awful. Who ever designed this, stick to knitting or gardening, cause you can't redesign a web site, that's for sure. BTW, it can't be UJB when Unkle John has passed on.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 17:50

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I noticed half the gardening items are sold out. I started impulse buying for my kids who have a garden....

As I went on this spending rampage, I noticed there are fewer than 500 PNW box sets left. I wonder how many Winterland 1973 and 1977 box sets they produced? Because I was able to get both of those 5-6 years after release. Either they produced way more than 15K or some of these box sets are doing better than we think.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 19:19

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I have little to say, but repeating that phrase made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I get the feeling they will improve on the interface a bit.. (I hope). I am finding that except for PM's, which are a fucking train wreck, most of the functionality is ok. It's clear to me they outsourced a good bit of this, or we would not have gotten the "would you like to translate this page" bs.

But let's give them a chance to make good.

I feel a need to reach out to HendrixFreak. I hope he is not lost in the back country.

Peace all.. have the best rest of the weekend you can possibly have.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 19:36

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Ever since last week when you steered me toward that Jam on 6/6/70, I have been deep under cover of the night, searching low and high for 1970 soundboard treasures. I began with what I had but seldom visited: Dark Star 3/24/70. It goes straight into an equally mind-bending Other One. Send lawyers guns and money.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 20:30

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Have fun tomorrow. Your boys are looking good.

Nice job Isles.

Playoff hockey is the best.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 05:33

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I have to agree - way to go Isles!! Any time Boston loses, it is a great day. A few good dust ups in the game too. I love the intensity of the playoffs.

Good luck with your AVs today. Prediction: AVs vs Tampa Bay for the Cup. My dark horse is Vegas.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 11:09

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Heeeyyyyyy, I resemble that remark!

Yeah, go Isles eh!
@&&&*&$& you Marchand, ya Hemorrhoid!

Good luck today Vince, it should be a hell of a game/experience.
The only thing better than playoff hockey is live/in person playoff hockey!

Looks like it’s going to be Tampa, and what about those pesky Habs!
There is nothing like a hot goalie in the playoffs and Price is looking strong.
Hell, the whole teams playing well.
I know the league restructured etc, but how the hell is Montreal possibly playing the AVs or Knights in the conference final? Seems like they should be taking it to the Bs or Tampa? Weird...

Today’s games SHOULD be sweet, let’s hope the refs don’t ruin it...
Both games are big ones. If the Habs go up 3-0....
And If the Knights tie it up that series is going to 11! If the AVs win, they “should” be in the drivers seat. Chever way, should be a big, no “HUGE” day of hockey!
But until then, I need to find me some great sounding dead; mamas at work and I’ve been stuck listening on a iPad at work all week, I need a dose of real audio, sorry neighbors ; )

Oh, could this font be any smaller? Ahem, some of us are old and don’t see so well anymore, like if I can’t read it even with glasses it’s to damn small!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 13:51

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Just back from O-Wi-Yu-Kuts, mountains where Utah, Colorado and Wyoming meet... Lots of headroom out there. Working my way through a jar of psilocybin capsules... Not lost, not found. But pretty much coated in dirt after a few days. Back now, checking in on possible box news.

Keen to know whether the box-to-come is fall '72 or spring '69. Loving the latest Dave's, especially the Eyes at the end of first set, 9-8-73, my seventh show to see release. Only 68 more to go.

Cheers, HF

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