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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • #531
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    Concert Prices

    I started going to concerts on a regular basis around 73-74, and I saw great acts for $5-$6 in a small 2,500 seat theatre, a little more for arena acts. Often you got your tix minutes before showtime at the box office. Getting tickets was for the dedicated, you lined up and obtained them, no scalper nonsense. Now, bands that are just doing the “remember us?” circuit with no new releases (see: Doobies for example) who are asking $150 for binocular-recommended seats. No. Not a chance.
    Jack - Rooting for the Habs!?!? Hmmmm. Guess who won’t be on Mike’s 2021 Christmas card list…

  • #532
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    I dumped Comcast last fall

    $160 for tv and internet, $44 of it was taxes and fees.

    Replaced it with Verizon Fios gigabit internet (fiber optic was already installed underground on my street and the Verizon equipment was already installed at my house), and an antenna for local tv. There is also an Ethernet cable running from the modem to my tv.

    I bought the Red Wings streaming package from NHL tv so I could watch the regular season. Haven’t been able to watch the playoffs except for games on NBC which I get over the air.
    Starting next season ESPN+ has the NHL, so I’ll get the Red Wings streamed through that. Maybe I’ll be able to get the playoffs streamed too. Otherwise, eventually I might have to get cable again to watch the playoffs, but I won’t do that until the Red Wings will actually be in the playoffs, and who knows how long it will be until that happens.
    Hopefully next season. 🤞

    I also won’t pay the high concert ticket prices, except for Roger Waters, I paid for floor seats in 2010, 2012, and 2017, and it was worth it. Had a good floor seat for 2020 which was postponed, and eventually refunded. Don’t know yet if I will go in 2022.

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    I banged away at this about a month ago. They are totally absurd.

    $300 for D&C. No thanks. Ain’t no dude named Garcia in the lineup. It’s a total joke, but people pay it.

    Oro - I have seen Phil and his band a number of times at the Cap. It didn’t matter who was in lineup, he always put on a good show. You will have a blast.

    Very tough loss for the Isles last night. You don’t give up a shorthanded goal the entire season and that’s how you lose game seven of the conference finals. Brutal.

    Mike - my apologies in advance. Before the Stanley Cup playoffs started I pledged my allegiance to Canadaland, hoping for one of the four teams to win. The last team I ever expected to be there was the Habs. But, I got a back them. Look at it this way. Every team I have backed so far has been eliminated.

    Hoping for a good series.

  • #534
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    Inflated concert tickets....

    ....the Monopoly board version of this started with the first Eagles reunion tour. Promoter inflated the prices thinking "people will pay". And they did. Every other promoter followed suit, and here we are.

  • #535
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    No thanks to all of it

    Concert tickets. No more $150 to sit in the 2nd and 3rd levels. 1st level arena seats in today's inflation shouldn't be more than $99.

    Movie tickets. I'm single so $15 a ticket doesn't sound bad, but take a date and she's going to want milk duds and popcorn and it's more like $40. A family of 5? What a joke, you're looking at $100 outing.

    Sports tickets. Avg NBA salary 8 to 10 million (I looked at a couple sources). Avg baseball salary 4 million. No way I'm feeding that machine.

    Cable / Internet / Phone

    Inflation everywhere.

    All out of control. Literally out of control. I stopped feeding the machine a few years ago, as much as possible. Athletes, musicians, celebrities, television personalities in general. And then they get up on their soap boxes and start preaching their politics. Bunch of overpaid bafoons. Boycott all of it I say. The cable bill is the one thing I'm having trouble getting rid of, but as soon as I can, the $200 a month for internet and four or five channels I actually watch is going bye bye. And who uses the landline anymore? But they don't even really charge you for it anyway they just add it on as a service so it sounds like you're getting more, but you really don't save anything by saying no I don't want the landline. I have to buy a bundle of TV packages with channels I don't want.

    They're sheering us for the long con, and we're bleating all the way.

  • #536
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    Instead of going through the financial

    grinder and paying to support a corrupt system, use that money for party favors and listen to music in your home or car or somewhere.

    I cant think of any artists id like to go see anyway. Thats just me being grumpy grumpkins.

    And hendrixappreciationman, you are correct about chatterers and cells and I WAS THERE WHOZ GOT A BEER OR SOME WEED....

  • #537
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    on the tube, TTB has a great show form 2018-02-02 from the capitol theater. Definitely worth a watch. Then there are segments of earlier this year, their fireside (?) series.

  • #538
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    Oh, California help por favor

    Possibly heading to a wedding in St Helena in August. Was supposed to be last year, with a “vacation” attached, something not experienced since 2012.
    We’re not too comfortable traveling yet, but feel we have to go. My line is if we’re driving all the way out there etc, we have to find a safe way to do something, besides just go to the wedding and back.
    So my question to all you NoCal folks out there is, where can we stay near there (“there’s” expensive and all ready sold out), some place that in turn would be a good home base for some day trips?
    And, what would be some good day trips, stuff we could do mostly outside and avoid crowds etc.
    like we already know Muir Woods will be packed so will avoid...

    Originally wanted to finally get to Anchor Brewing,, Phil’s Place, as well as other, normal, Bay Area tourist stops.
    I’ve been, but Lovey hasn’t so was hopping we could make a big trip outta it, but that was last year....
    Sorry, way off topic but figure who better to ask!
    Shanks!

  • #539
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    It is indeed a shame that concert tickets have gone up in price. I think I paid $5 the first time I saw the Stones in the early '70s. The last time they toured, a friend (?) offered to sell me an extra ticket he'd bought for the face value of $225. To sit in the upper level at Dodger Stadium. No, thank you.

    Red Rocks might be kind of special case, considering how many people are willing to travel there to see shows. I was thinking of doing just that to see TTB this summer, but tickets have been scarce, and expensive on the "secondary market" (ie, legalized scalping services). Part of what's going on is that TTB had to cancel there last year, and they're trying to honor those tickets, so there just aren't that many to go around. But TTB has a whole tour in progress, so there will be plenty of other opportunities to check them out, but sadly for me, it's all in the eastern parts of these United States. C'mon, Derek, whaddya got against us TTB heads on the West Coast, maaaan?

    Anyway, Deadheads should definitely check out the TTB is some way shape or form. I kind of see them as a continuation of the ABB legacy, kind of drawing on the same soul and blues sources with a little country and jazz thrown in. Like the ABB, their jamming is not as wide open as the GOGD, but it's almost always very dynamic and esciting. Derek Trucks is the best guitarist alive (yeah, I said it), the double drummer rhythm sections is always smokin', Susan is a fantastic vocalist, what's not to like? If you need a place to start, I would recommend their Live from the Fox Oakland album, which is a great concert in great sound (and video!). Added bonus: if you closely, you might catch a glimpse of a tall geeky white dude wearing an Eat a Peach t-shirt standing about 30 ft in front of Derek during his spectacular solo on "Keep on Growing."

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    I hear ya HF. Take it your not going to D&C at Fiddlers?
    Another new ticket buying annoyance, you have to buy them so far in advance!

    I skipped D&C, not sure I’d be ready for crowds yet, especially the kind sure to be there you described.
    Remember Folsom the first year was half empty, but 2020 I believe they sold it out!
    Saw exactly what you speak of get worse from year to year as the crowds grew...
    Also, Denver in October...could be awesome, or not so much...would they still have a show after a foot of snow?
    Biggest reason not going, no peeps. None of the gang is going and they live far enough away that it’d be a hassle for someone to drive, but don’t want to hotel etc. Plus, we usually stop risking the White Ribbon of Death from then until spring unless we have to.
    Nope, couldn’t see spending that much cash for something five months away, that chances are fair I wouldn’t end up going...
    Bummed I missed the Wolfs at Vail recently, but too soon and betting that crowd would of been the “I’m at one of the first show” bunch, rather than heads...
    But!,
    Did score Phil tix for Vail in September, so hopefully that works out. Figure if I change my mind I could sell em easy enough. Ahem, Wish I knew what the lineup was though...

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 04:26

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Something's different with the interface here.

Don't we sometimes see changes right before an announcement?

#BoxMe

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 04:38

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Yes, it all looks a bit odd. After logging on a box appeared asking if I wanted to translate from Russian!-despite the fact that the text still seems to be in English.
Then the format is different, and a message appears telling me I can no longer post new messages on the forum. So it will be interesting to see if this message appears.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:04

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Translate to Russian?!

They are going to have to get this box set announcement out the door today. They're going to need many bitcoins to pay the ransom and get their website back!

Sending a PM is nearly impossible.. Count Vlad has taken over the website.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:19

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That the website has been redesigned.

A little disorienting at first. Glad I’m sober or I would have been really confused.

Edit:
reCRAPTCHA appears to be the same.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:23

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Come on Dave,
What’s the hold up?

Time to hire a Vault assistant or two.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 05:38

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soon there won't be anything left of the old guard

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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 06:41

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So they can't even get a website update right. If I scroll down to below the 10 displayed posts so I can add a new post, I first encounter another version of the header text followed by a buttload of posts in ascending order starting with the original Vguy post #1. The avatars on these old posts are huge, so I can now fully appreciate the broken fragments of Vguy's glass. After this multitude of old posts I then come to where I can type this in, but the text box is wider than the screen on my mobile. Tragic really.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 06:46

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I just applied and got an immediate response. It looks like I got the Archivist Intern job at Rhino, my mom is so proud. First things first.. what to do with Dave for the next couple years?... mmmmm

#RFK1973orBust

Edit: You're right SimonRob.. we get a close up view peoples Avatar's when we reply. It looks like someone went to town on VGuy's glass with a WorkingMan's Dead Hatchet!

Speaking of the hatchet.. it's the perfect weapon for an angry mob to wield and take over the vault. Just saying.. how many of us are there with these hatchets that have yet to see our favorite 1973 set of shows released? I'm not sure they thought this one through.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:08

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ConeKid...this show and in particular, the transition of which you speak is as good as you have discovered. Sublime, smooth, like buttaaah. It's just sooooo good, makes me wonder why they didn't do that more often. Love this show, it is release worthy IMHO.

Sixtus

P.S. I feel like I am back on dial-up and using AOL with this new website design. It almost seems as if someone did something half way then just said fuck it.

Sorry about your glass VGuy...the picture says it all. Consider it the most challenging 3-D puzzle ever. And it appears my glass is out for delivery. We shall see if we can swap shards.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:14

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Or Stormy Daniels? It’s too early for this I’m all confused?
Well Jim if it’s obviously ok for a mob of traitors to storm the capital with no repercussions, storming the vault seems like a no brainer!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 07:18

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VGuy.. get some super glue and two part epoxy. You can rebuild it..

better, stonger, faster than it was before.

Oh, right on Oroborous.. alright everyone, get your Workingman's Dead Hatchets.. meet you in Burbank. I'll be the one wearing a tie dye waving my WMD hatchet in the air getting tased by TSA.

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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 09:32

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"Why are things so Strange around here?"

I think it has something to do with Gainsville... obviously.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 10:01

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So what about Gainesville?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 10:44

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Banesville
Canesville
Danesville
Feignsville
Hanesville
Janesville (Wisconsin)
Kanesville
Lanesville
Mainsville
Painsville
Rainsville
Sanesville
Tamesville
Vainsville
Wanesville
Zanesville

Robotsville (eyeroll)

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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 13:27

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"This Florida city heard a sick Shakedown Street at Alligator Alley in Nov., 1980."

"What is Gainesville, Alex?"

"Gainsville is correct. And that transition to Franklin's is pretty dope too".

"Indeed"

"..transition into Franklin's is pretty dope."

Wow.. you cannot edit posts? Fuck.. what if you make a mistake or curse or something.

Edit: Shit. I cursed.

Edit 2: Apparently you can edit and recursively erase your curse worded posts.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 15:22

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But the titles look better in bold than plain text.

The most recent site version didn’t show the post that you were responding to, whereas older site versions did show the post.
It’s helpful when you are typing a post and forget what you were responding to.

Edit:
The box that you type in is still really small on an iPad, hard to see what you are typing.
But the member photo is huge.
The web designer screwed up and switched which box was supposed to be large.

1) The old site was old and outdated.

2) The old site was overloaded with spam and needed a flush.

3) This site is now being hosted by Fancy Bear.

4) A revved up website is needed so that it doesn’t crash with the upcoming Box announcement.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 17:40

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You are correct, sir. Too funny.

...and Conekid, your top 10 list of reasons they needed to update the website is spot on.

PM's are twilight zone weird...

And what's with the Russian thing. I mean, really? How did that get into the mix?

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 19:11

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Been a long time since I spun this one. Not too shabby. I literally type off the side of my phone on this and can't read either margin when I type. Somebody didn't test this on Android phones. Or maybe we're testing it for them. I think they were unprepared for Flash deprecation.

Omg Oroborous your dog is eating his tail.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 21:06

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Let the wheels roll free

Heading south on I5 to Oregon thick traffic

Wife driving

About 100 ft ahead a big collision occurred

She steered through and kept going

Sobering moment, gents

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 06/04/2021 - 22:28

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....but at least Vegas won.
The edit button is on the left.
Got it.
Stoltz's wife can drive!
So can my wife. She drives big rigs for a living! New format is definitely not Android friendly at all.
Why is there an APPLY button on the screen?

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 02:36

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That button is there so that you can apply for membership of the Garden Club.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 09:01

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these guys on this site could fuck up a wet dream, why? why did they do this? Hey, who ever did this, you suck. Oh well, just like the rest of the what's left of the Grateful Dead, fucking awful. Who ever designed this, stick to knitting or gardening, cause you can't redesign a web site, that's for sure. BTW, it can't be UJB when Unkle John has passed on.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 17:50

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I noticed half the gardening items are sold out. I started impulse buying for my kids who have a garden....

As I went on this spending rampage, I noticed there are fewer than 500 PNW box sets left. I wonder how many Winterland 1973 and 1977 box sets they produced? Because I was able to get both of those 5-6 years after release. Either they produced way more than 15K or some of these box sets are doing better than we think.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 19:19

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I have little to say, but repeating that phrase made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I get the feeling they will improve on the interface a bit.. (I hope). I am finding that except for PM's, which are a fucking train wreck, most of the functionality is ok. It's clear to me they outsourced a good bit of this, or we would not have gotten the "would you like to translate this page" bs.

But let's give them a chance to make good.

I feel a need to reach out to HendrixFreak. I hope he is not lost in the back country.

Peace all.. have the best rest of the weekend you can possibly have.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 19:36

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Ever since last week when you steered me toward that Jam on 6/6/70, I have been deep under cover of the night, searching low and high for 1970 soundboard treasures. I began with what I had but seldom visited: Dark Star 3/24/70. It goes straight into an equally mind-bending Other One. Send lawyers guns and money.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 20:30

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Have fun tomorrow. Your boys are looking good.

Nice job Isles.

Playoff hockey is the best.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 05:33

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I have to agree - way to go Isles!! Any time Boston loses, it is a great day. A few good dust ups in the game too. I love the intensity of the playoffs.

Good luck with your AVs today. Prediction: AVs vs Tampa Bay for the Cup. My dark horse is Vegas.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 11:09

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Heeeyyyyyy, I resemble that remark!

Yeah, go Isles eh!
@&&&*&$& you Marchand, ya Hemorrhoid!

Good luck today Vince, it should be a hell of a game/experience.
The only thing better than playoff hockey is live/in person playoff hockey!

Looks like it’s going to be Tampa, and what about those pesky Habs!
There is nothing like a hot goalie in the playoffs and Price is looking strong.
Hell, the whole teams playing well.
I know the league restructured etc, but how the hell is Montreal possibly playing the AVs or Knights in the conference final? Seems like they should be taking it to the Bs or Tampa? Weird...

Today’s games SHOULD be sweet, let’s hope the refs don’t ruin it...
Both games are big ones. If the Habs go up 3-0....
And If the Knights tie it up that series is going to 11! If the AVs win, they “should” be in the drivers seat. Chever way, should be a big, no “HUGE” day of hockey!
But until then, I need to find me some great sounding dead; mamas at work and I’ve been stuck listening on a iPad at work all week, I need a dose of real audio, sorry neighbors ; )

Oh, could this font be any smaller? Ahem, some of us are old and don’t see so well anymore, like if I can’t read it even with glasses it’s to damn small!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 06/06/2021 - 13:51

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Just back from O-Wi-Yu-Kuts, mountains where Utah, Colorado and Wyoming meet... Lots of headroom out there. Working my way through a jar of psilocybin capsules... Not lost, not found. But pretty much coated in dirt after a few days. Back now, checking in on possible box news.

Keen to know whether the box-to-come is fall '72 or spring '69. Loving the latest Dave's, especially the Eyes at the end of first set, 9-8-73, my seventh show to see release. Only 68 more to go.

Cheers, HF

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