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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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September 18, 2023 - 5:10pm

#871

icecrmcnkd

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“Hey Rocky, watch me levitate Garcia”

Per your suggestions, doing the 9-18-87 anniversary.

I suspect that everything in the Vault that sounds good will get digitized, and a lot has probably been done already since the tapes are degrading and the job needs to get completed. Also, storing digital copies at various geographic locations can be an insurance policy against things like the Universal Music warehouse fire, California Earthquake(s), etc. Futhurmore, I assume that when Dave is perusing potential releases he listens to a digital copy, not a cassette copy, then he picks a few shows to discuss at the next business meeting.

Some will get the Full Norman.
Some will even get Plangentized.
Everything that gets digitized will be available for download and/or streaming in the future, we may just not be alive to spend the money on such.
The Vault will become the Catalog.
We are financing the digitization of the Vault by buying the new releases.
So bust out Dennis’ wife’s credit card and keep buying.
(Well, at least Dennis can bust out the credit card)
September 18, 2023 - 2:02pm

#872

Oroborous

Joined:
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Misery loves company, JK

Yeah 1stshow I hadn’t planned to do it.I mean I’ve been meaning to, but, like many things nowadays, always low on roundtoits ; ). Reminds me of this guy we picked up on Ziggy Marley tour doing merch back in 96 I believe.
Flew into DC, met PK from Jersey, counted stuff in at the 9:30 club, then just tried to keep up with ole PK. Out on town all night, then immediately had to drive to next show etc…
Dude knows everyone everywhere and can get you ANYTHING you need in almost any city!
Damn Rastas were asking him to get them weed everywhere as he had better connections lol
Been a road dog forever! Anywho, somewhere in the mayhem we ran into a buddy of his from Virginia who decided one show wasn’t enough fun. He only ment to go to the next one, and every night kept saying “ok, this is the last one, then I have to get back”…we’ll this went on for over a week until finally, after Panama beach show we literally had to make him get on a bus and go home lol. Guy was helpful and we all had big fun, but the poor bastard was wearing the same clothes etc and didn’t have anything with him, totally spontaneous trip. Think after a couple daze we bought him some fresh underwear and gave him a couple tour shirts to change into lol.
So that’s kinda how I started E72 this time, ok, I’ll do one more. Finally, though this isn’t a good time, time wise etc, figured, fug it, buy the ticket, take the ride! So, always more fun with a tour buddy!

Yeah, I’m with you on 5/3. It is a damn good show, but I didn’t get as blown away as some…
But I’ll need to reacquaint with it…top five, good luck. I can’t do it. Their all so good, sure I like some perhaps more, but their just different enough I can’t pick a top dog…
Yeah, what a surprise, the French were the most vocal lol

Yeah DV, im worried about the VIKS, Bills too, though they seemed like their old selves again this week. But like the Viks, ya never know what’s next lol. Rootin for underdog Lions, and Falcons, though I really like this kid Field with Da Bears…
I’ll have to try and find that Dave article. He always says that and he doesn’t do it all the time, and they have mostly stayed clear of anniversaries, but he has been dipping liberally from that early possibilities list he mentioned back at the start of DaP.

Those all sound familiar Jim, but I’m on a job site so can’t look up in my Db.
Tempting all, but I’m on tour in Europe with ole 1stshow and don’t like to listen to other Dead until the trip is over…
1970 is perhaps last frontier I haven’t really got the toe wet yet. Need another roundtoit!
September 18, 2023 - 1:19pm

#873

DeadVikes

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Shows/Relix

Hey OB, not off to a good start here in MN, but actually not that surprised. Go Bills!

There is an interesting article in Relix with Dave L. that was posted last week I believe. Check it out.
Dave claims there is no list and they don't generally release shows or box sets based on anniversaries. This year's box was just a coincidence. So, what does that mean for 2024? Not sure. Would love to see that October 74 Winterland box released. Who wouldn't?
I thought the 74 Winterland shows were recorded by Bill Wolf as part of the Movie production agreement with United Artists. I believe everything is there and based on the material from the 2005 soundtrack, and bonus material, it is fantastic.

Madison Square Garden 87. Those are some good shows Jim. Might have to join you on 9/18 as I have that 30 Trips show handy.
September 18, 2023 - 12:12pm

#874

1stshow70878

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5-3-72 Paris

Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
Cheers
September 18, 2023 - 12:02pm

#875

JimInMD

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Ha

I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

That's all I have for now.
September 18, 2023 - 11:37am

#876

Oroborous

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Ok, back to Europe

Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?
September 18, 2023 - 10:34am

#877

Oroborous

Joined:
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More shows

That’s all I ment.
Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
Like most things, no easy answers.
It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
A well, it’s early still…
September 18, 2023 - 9:17am

#878

DeadVikes

Joined:
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Releases

Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.
September 18, 2023 - 8:46am

#879

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Box discussion

I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
Cheers
Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.
September 18, 2023 - 7:44am

#880

Oroborous

Joined:
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Y’all are missing the point…

I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
Their not going to do this forever!!!
For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
My plan,
25 for primal 67-70
15 for 71
20 for 72
20 for 73 (at least!
? 74 might just be mostly scraps
20? for 76? Maybe
77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
20 for 78
20 for 79 and 80
20 for 81 & 82
20 for 83 & 84
20 for 85 & 86
20 for 87 & 88
20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
20 for 91 & 92
20 for 93-95
These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
You could still make them “limited”…
Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
Tic toc…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

12/10/72

Bolo - I'll be there. Sorry to hear of your brother's passing. Always a funny feeling when memory carved in stone is suddenly shown to be misremembered. Hopefully the rest of the show is in the vault. If so, maybe Dave L. can lay it on us in the tapers section or jam of the week (hint hint). very nice that what we have of Set I includes that 20 minute Playing :)

4/9/83

Thanks for sharing the memories Jim. Great stuff. I could not fit this one in today but will try for tomorrow along with 12/10/72. It will be a busy day.

Thanks for the picks.

Tripping on the beach

Lol, our first time to Hampton we thought we were going to spring break.
As northerners, we assumed it would be beach weather down there and were quite disappointed when we went to the beach and it was cold, windy, and not a bikini in sight.
Did score my one and only Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comic at a head shop there, so all was not lost.

4/9 was hot, did 4/20 yesterday as I wasn’t in the mood for another partial old tape.
Interesting set list and another good spring 83 show.
Today we’ll go for 12/10/72. Unfortunately back at work so not the best listening conditions, but the dead’s always been good for helping the work get done!
ONWARD!

12/10/72

pretty sweet indeed

4/9/83

Hampton 83. Man, did they play some great shows at Hampton. Good pick OB.
12/10/72👍. Wish we had the whole the show.

Tomorrow's pick. I would like to offer up 9/1/79. Great recording is available. The show starts with Half Step and the recording starts out rough but evens out mid way through and stays great throughout the rest of the show.

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Re: 12/10/72

Pretty sweet show is right.. you get more than an hour and a half and it starts with Bertha.. almost like a mini-show in itself even though it's a partial.

Great listen yesterday..

Something seems funky at dead.net, a change in the interface? Anyone else noticing this? A phenomenon that often predates high-profile box set announcements..?

DV likes his 79...

which is fine 👍
In fact, I almost went to this show, but the rents put the kibash on it.
Don’t think I’ve ever heard it?

12/10 was aw-ight overall. Really liked the improve jam weirdness in TOO etc..
Wonder what Lil Bolo thought of all that lol.

Lil Bolo?

Never...I entered the world at 10+ pounds!

I don't recall if it was this 12/10 show or one of the 1973 concerts, but I do remember leaving Winterland after a sizzling show, pausing at the door to peek outside and make sure I was still in San Francisco. Or on Earth, for that matter.

Those Winterland shows were usually really special.

What’s Up?

Anyone else seeing some very odd messages?
Can’t find the DaP 38 comments at all and I’m told I can’t comment on some other threads

Re: Colin

Count Vlad must have hacked Dead.net. Everything is weird...

Our only hope is that all this weirdness preludes the box set announcement we are (hopefully) going to get next week.

This Site, the Lost Years

Yes,what the hell is going on with this site? Seems all messed up. 79, yes Oroborous, the lost years are high on my list 79, 80, and 81. You almost went to this show? No way. You for sure need to check it out, you won't be disappointed.

9/1 Was Fun

Great show.. high energy and a little something extra. Thanks man.. re-hitting some of the parts where distractions pulled me away now.

Nice pick!

Liked the interesting Saint with not yet worked out lyrics etc, a little tentative by the band..Nice S/F, cool space, excellent Rat, fun Bertha with first hand accounts describing the sun going down just as JG sang that line...
Damn, I wish I could of gone, but I was still young and the rents were not there yet and the thought of going “all the way to Rochester” GASP! (An hour and a half at the time)
That would have to wait a year.
Probably didn’t help that the folks I would have gone with were all like 5 years older and full on freaks, some had been busted with over hyped headlines in the local paper (it was all BS and nobody ever got in any real trouble).
I remember they thought the show was just ok, and told of how the Good Rats were a terrible opener and how the crowd was throwing their toy Rats back at them along with other things and literally booed then off lol.
Aw well, missed it by that much 🤌

Good pick, glad I finally got to hear it!

10+ pounds, your poor mother!

Hmmm

I guess since nothings shaking I’ll continue on my spring 83 journey.
Going with 4/23/83...
Hopefully listen to some released, better sounding show to massage my poor ears after listening on device all week...

AHEM, COUOD THIS FONT BE ANY SMALLER
HEY DEAD NET, THERES OLD PEOPLE HERE, SOME OF WHOM CANT SEE SO GOOD ANYMORE!

Sorry OroB

It's hot as balls here, it was a water day.. and from a cold mountain stream with water temps it the 50's. Going to cut the grass though and plan to revisit '79.

Hope you all are having a great weekend. Nice 72 show on SiriusXM today (9/10/72 Hollywood Palladium).. I caught parts of the second set on the drive. Nice Dark Star > Jack Straw. That would be a nice one to hit one day.

Edit: Redit the highlights of 9/1/79. Very nice.. Jerry could still sing in '79, songs I do not normally gel to stand out, like FOTD and others. Lot's of emotion, especially from Jerry. Goes to show, you cannot judge a show by the setlist. One minor issue with the 79 forward recordings.. they either did not mic the drums well or the cassette masters flattened their tone. It is a really good recording but in the first set, sometimes the drums sound like popcorn makers. Again, no drawback from the performance.. but man I wish all the recordings were betty boards.

One last shout-out to '79..I believe Otis gets the 79 vibe.

As you were.. have a great rest of the weekend.

9/1/79

I am having a tough time this weekend with this site. Hard to even read what I am trying to type. What happened to this site? So maybe they have a Betty Board in the vault of this show? Yes, the recordings are never perfect. Really also like the Franklins from 79 and this show. Love the Bob Weir intro into the second set. So good. Oroborous, these guys had so much material to work with after Go to Heaven. It was a great time to get your start. I can't imagine. Would love to see more 79 officially released. 8/31/79 is also worth a listen if you care to continue on with 79.

Dis & Dat

Did 4/23 & 25/83 at work last couple days.
4/23 was good but lost me at the end.
Candyman AND a Peggy O, hell I really liked the whole first set, second was kinda standard fare...
4/25/83: ok show, didn’t resonate as well as the New Havens, especially that 4/22 show. So far I think I’d give the nod to the Providence show on 4/20 as far as the post Meadowlands shows?
Just 4/26/83 to go and I’ll have heard everyone on this tour in some form or another, though I didn’t do the whole everyone in order method...

Well, was hoping to fire up the beast and blast something good sounding, but my server may have issues, not cool Kyle, not cool!
Guess I’ll have to stream some more shows or maybe I’ll break out some vinyl?
So 8/31/79,10/9/72, and 4/26/83 are on the radar...did we do 10/9/72? It seems familiar...if GOGD hadn’t gone and flown the coop we’d know ; )

Yeah Jim, it’s your season eh?
How’s the runoff this year? I believe you said you had a wet spring so should be good...
Get your paddle on and git sum amigo!

Working a +40 in four days after not working for six months was brutal, I’m told old for this shit lol. Gonna lounge to the max, lick my wounds, and nail a retred to my feet.... oh yeah, and hopefully watch the AVs win ; ) (sorry vguy)
y’all have a great WE!

Not cool, Kyle, not cool..

Too funny.

9/2/79 another amazing 79 concert

I just listened to 9/2/79 & I love it!
I’m betting 9/1/79 is another gratefully performance from 1979!
I love 1979, one of my favorite eras. Note , 1978 , is also a primo era from for the boys! 79 into a killer 1980s kick in first 80’s sound, from the gang! 🙏❤️💀🌹

9/2/79

Okay LMG, I am going to check that one out as well. I don't think this site change was temporary. 👎

9/2 Tonight Then...

Sounds good. I have a lot to do.

Having some fun with a house renovation in progress.. got some local, rough cut Cherry a couple years ago and recently milled it into some really incredible looking trim for the upstairs bathroom and kitchen (windows, shower, baseboard, etc.). Just completed the finish and some of the figuring on the boards looks almost tie dyed.. electric. Listening to good ole GD only seems fitting while I plow through the tedious finishing process..... a little buzz and 1979 GD really helps.. and I can't help but think the good ole GD shows up in the end product.

Been putting this off for years, covid finally freed up some time to get it done.

btw, 9/1 was a great recording for the era, good pick dvikes. The drum tones sometimes makes me wish they kept up the dedicated recording resources instead of piggy-backing on the PA and pumping that sound into a cassette deck. I still love them, first world problems I know.

9/2/79

This show has garnered multiple listens from me. Rarer set II Let it Grow. Interesting take on Minglewood from what I remember. Inspired choice, good job guys. So how about 10-14-76 to 10-15-76, a la 9-1-79 to 9-2? Just a thought. Happy Tuesday all...

P.S. Nice to see things back to it's normal weird. :-)

10/15/76

Alright WTJ, looks like we have a pick for today and the full show is available. Thanks!

Jim, you must be extremely handy if you are milling your own wood. Wow!
Do you have a Workingman's Dead axe for that project?

I believe Betty was still recording shows in 1979. Not sure if there are official copies of these shows in the
VAULT.

We haven't had a box announcement for 16 months. The question is will we have Dave's #39 before the next box is announced?

Ha.

I do have the Workingman's Dead hatchet. It's one of the cooler trinkets they have carried. Expensive, but the real deal.

Double Post + In on '76

Really enjoyed both 79 shows this week too. Both were really fun. Will be doing much of the same today so listening is in.

10/15/76

first set underway on car stereo

"Loserus interruptus" since I had to eventually leave the car and go into the school

but I'll pick up right where I left off on the way home

10/15/76

Proud fus...I don't know if you know the setlist, but it is a nice show to do without knowing if it's a virgin listen. Especially set II. Some rarities in there...

10/15/76

I listened a long time ago

I know there is some hot stuff in there

"This mountain majesty
This rediscovery"

- Chicago

10/15/76 rarities

First He's Gone since hiatus, last 'til 5/21/77. Also, Comes a Time>Franklin's...a nice pairing with...Gainesville? :-)

-edit- On the topic of twofers: 10-14 and 15-76 (10-9 and 10-10 for that matter) 9-1 and 9-2-79 we just covered here. 3-9 and 10, 1981 is another good one. Looks like Alpine in 82, 84, 85 and 86 were all twofers. So many more...

10/15/76

Great pick WTJ. I had to finish this one up this morning. Last show before the Cow Palace.
Great show, really like the He's gone, Other One, Comes a Time, Franklins as you mentioned... Sugar Mag closer is decent.

Behind.. again..

Starting 10/15 now. Better late then never...

Might get some serious listening time today though, anything else on tap just in case?

I have two tricks up my sleeve.. the sister show to 3/24/73, Dave's Picks 32 two nights later in Baltimore. I always thought these two shows were partners in crime as Philly is to Baltimore in general. Another we could hit is 1/17/68, the first DS>China Cat>11 sequence.
https://archive.org/details/gd1968-01-17.sbd.cotsman.11795.shnf

Two random picks from the past that don't get too much discussion. For now, setting the wayback to 10/15/76.

3/26/73 Baltimore

3/26/73 Baltimore looks interesting to me Jim.
Thanks for keeping us going.

B Town

Baltimore won't disappoint.

Interesting tidbit.. yesterday the property and business owners in one of the cooler hangs in btown sued the state for neglecting their responsibility to cut crime, gang violence and keeping general misfits out of one of the more eclectic business/bar/restaurant blocks in the city. Actually, they did not sue they just said FU to paying taxes for services that are lackluster.

I don't agree or disagree, their point being their businesses have been increasingly isolated from the rest of the city by some crime infested areas.. such that it is not very safe to walk freely between other parts of the city and Fells Point.

It's a classic part of the city though,, for example, there's only one place to get Bertha's Mussels. Best in the city since 1972. Ever seen the bumper sticker that read, Eat Bertha's Mussels? Bertha don't you come around here anymore....

I have a sneaking suspicion not paying taxes will not furtur their argument.. but hey, don't let me drown out the party.

3/26/73 Baltimore

Still working my way through this show Jim. Great pick and the recording is really good so far.

Spring 73 is so good, well okay all of 73 is hot.

Stay well out there.

Sorry Dudes

This working shit sucks! Lol
I knew coming outta “retirement” was going to be hard, but phew, pant, pant, pant, this is more work than chasing squirrels! So not only too busy to hang with y’all, but I’ve been stuck actually having to work with people, instead of my usual solo, which means no tunes! Uuuugghhhh!
And my servers @#$&(6&& and I don’t have time to take it to its maker 3 hours away....
Hopefully I can listen to this and dat this WE?

Funny B town story, think in that section your speaking of Jimbo.
I was doing merch with my ole buddy LaRoush. Big Head Todd opening for Ziggy and the Melody Makers at what ever that cool amphitheater is that sticks out into the harbor. At the time (mid nighties) we’d been told things were better, but to be cautious late at night. So my number one rule was when it’s time to leave with the cash, be together, don’t dawdle, and get the fug out...so after a count out/pay out in some dark creepy basement with cigar smoking mob like characters totally giving me the fear, I wanted out ASAP, but of course no LaRoush to be found, Dooah!
I venture out to the truck, but he’s not there? So here I am with a large stash of cash in my briefcase, and another nights worth in the truck, and no damn LaRoush? Fuuuuuudddgggeee, only I didn’t say fudge!
Finally after searching high and low, there he is backstage knawing on what’s left of catering because he got too stoned with Ziggys crew guys and now at 2AM has uncontrollable munchies lol.
I shoulda left him there like they used to leave Bobby at rest areas etc.
Only time I had the fear worse doing merch was in Detroit but that’s another story...

Keep the Mother 🌎 rolling

Glad to see this is still happening. Giving my head space more Space. Taking a several month break from ganga. To a much lesser degree with Ted Dape, I mean Dead tapes.
I’m not as think as you stoned I am.

Ha.. this working shit sucks

I hear you man. Hang in there...

Keep the mother rolling one more time.. like from the Here Comes Sunshine near the beginning of the second set, 3/26/73 Baltimore Civic Center? ..and how about that 8 minute Weather Report Suite Prelude into Wharf Rat?

This show seems on par and well matched to DaP 32. Releasable? yes.

Dicks Picks #11

Anybody up for this one? 9/27/72, Dick's Picks #11.

Just In Time

DiP 11 it is.

3/26/73

Great Show!
Another notch in the ole GD gun barrel.
Yeah, that whole second set sequence was sweet, especially that WRS jam!
Good call. Sounded good too!
Perhaps better than that DaP 38 fiasco...
Agree, this would make a good Dave’s.
Might go 4/26/83 next to finish off that tour and change it up.
DP 11 will make a nice Sunday afternoon session. Perhaps some Cheeebas are in order, those DS’ demand it lol.
Onward!

EDIT: make that 4/26/83 ooopps, worth checking out. Hot Shakedown once it gets rolling, LIG, H-S-F, hot Women are, cool jam into Truckin’, nobody’s jam out into Dew etc.
Good sounding Healy board too!

It's Got a Cumberland...

Tasty.

This is one of those shows that I did not immediately get. I was just too busy to get sucked into that second set.

Times have changed and subsequent listens unlocked the mysteries.. that Dark Star > Cumberland Blues stands alone, nothing like it. The Uncle John's Band is tasty too among other highlights. Classic fall 1972 GD. Thanks for suggesting this. '83 tomorrow?

Dick's 11

A pre HDCD release. Solid show, had to turn it up a little more. Great from start to finish. And as you said Jim, Dark Star, Cumberland and Attics is worth a listen.

83 for today you say OB? Let's do it.

Today

Yeah, if you like spring 83, you’ll like 4/26/83. Last show of the tour. Good Healy Board, not matrix...
Play close attention to the Shakedown, it’s cool to hear it unfold and get strong...

I’m actually psyched for Dicks 11. Perhaps my fav 72 show..?..HA! Who am I kidding, picking a favorite 72 is a fools errand, but I really like this show, especially for that sequence you guys mentioned!
I mean it’s got a DS AND a Cumberland, with an Attics for dessert!
Supposed to hit 91 up here today. Might need to eat cheebas, get necked and freak out the neighbors lol.
I think I need one of those kiddie pools to drink beer in ; )
Aw- right chil-rens, everybody into the pewal, oh wait, Jim’s got a big pool right out side his door!
Stay cool with at tall ice cold frosty Fremont Summer Ale and some cool GD!
Onward!

I'm Right There With You

Peak exhaustion setting in here.. Is it ever ok to wake someone up at 6:25 on a Sunday morning to ask a silly question and just say goodbye, I am leaving now? Silly question, no need to answer....

Setting the controls of the wayback to 4/26/83.. cheeba is in play.. I have much to do today that does not involve other people.. solitude and listening often go hand in hand.. I am off. I should feel a little better in about 20 min..

Spring tour 1983.. the first tour we figured out it was advisable to travel to see shows and see more than one show in a tour, although the latter would have to wait until Summer. It was strange to us then.. figuring out that with the Grateful Dead, you need to see more than one show in a tour, preferably consecutive shows in close proximity to maximize music and make your dollars stretch so you can then afford to see more shows. It was not in our vocabulary until that year.. Coincidentally, this was the year I bought my first car.

Have a good one all.. Sunday Sunday Sunday...

Settle back, easy Jim!

Lol, I’m such a bastard I think my poor ole lady would be scared to wake me up too early, for any reason!

SECOND PARAGRAPH: YES!!

Great synopsis of early touring methodology!
I would add trying to find the coolest places versus what would often be the easiest i.e., going to Maine for 2 shows instead of say Meadowlands for four....though that was not fully understood early on.
Personally I found quality over quantity to be more fulfilling, but 8 on one tour was the most we ever did, and in fact sold off our tix to 3 others, for various reasons. So I can’t speak for folks who did whole tours etc...some people lived for that...
I certainly don’t remember as much from the multiple run shows I did...
Three night runs, if you could spread em out, I liked best.
2 nights in a row damn near kills me nowadays lol.

Oh yeah, things don’t hurt so much anymore as the sun is actually shining in my back door, accompanying the music about such...hmmmm,
Almost time for a cool frosty treat!

4/26 Holy Crap

Virgin listen for me and a great show.. I think it sounds better than any of the 83 shows released thus far.. and I prefer it to the 84 Philly released last year.

Right out the gate the get things moving with a ripping Shakedown. ..and you can tell they are having fun, in the dead space between Shakedown and Minglewood someone says, "I like that" (Jerry?Phil??). Nothing that unusual until the thundering set closer, Let It Grow, where Jerry just shreds it. There is some interesting and humorous banter mixed in, again showing they are having some fun.

The Help/Slipknot!/Franklins Tower is on point especially the Slipknot!, but they saved some special sauce for the Truckin'>Nobody's Fault but Mine/Spoonful Jam>Morning Dew. I think Phil must have been hitting the Heinekens for this one, he levels the power grid at the crescendo in the Truckin' outro Jam.. he just levels the place and again in Morning Dew. A really high energy show.. after listening to the whole thing I had to go back and hit the highlights to make sure it wasn't just me, which ended my day and my buzz.

So starts the new week. Great show.

Yeah

I knew nothing of this show, what a nice surprise!

Really enjoyed 9/27/72 (DP 11) yesterday, hadn’t heard it in a while.
Always a favorite. Another awesome 72 DS into....CUMBERLAND?......fo git about it!
Nice pick.
Today probably no tunes : (
but ya never no....

Tunes = Yes Today

...for me at least. I am going to hit Dave's Picks 35, The Spectrum 4/19&20/84 since I sort of compared this to the 4/26/83 show last night. We will see.... If I have extra time I might hit Dave's 36 to round up a mid 80's terror and help cement my understanding of these three somewhat recently released shows as I will probably put them away for a while.

Monday Monday.. Have a good week all.

Edit: Made cleaning the house last night and this morning 'almost' fun. At least it removed most of the boredom and monotony.. I hate cleaning but will likely never hire a cleaning service. I'd rather take the money and buy a Dave's Picks subscription and some edibles and do it myself.

4/26/83

I almost never keep up with this endless list of shows, but cracked the Philly show open and did the opening Shakedown. Very nice. I have the Miller copy.

Jim - I don't see edibles and housework going together! :-)