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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 14, 2021 - 10:11am

#241

Mr. Ones

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DHBrewer

It's difficult to recommend a particular album, or even era of this band. Every time the line-up changed, so did the music. The only consistent thing of the 69-75 version was that every line-up would perform Improvisations, and those could go anywhere. For the song oriented material, I guess I would recommend albums Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Red, and possibly Starless And Bible Black.
For the 80-2021 version(s), the improvs were still there, less so in the 80's-early 90's. Again many different line-ups after Belew/Bruford left. I really like Discipline and Thrak as starters for later era Crimson. But, ask 6 other people, you'll get 6 differing opinions.

Music is the Beast!! And The Best!!
July 14, 2021 - 8:44am

#242

Deadheadbrewer

Joined:
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King Crimson--help on the way?

So many many moons ago when it first came out, I purchased the box set "The Great Deceiver" by King Crimson, having heard NOTHING by them. For those who don't know, it's live material from 1973-74. I just could not get into it, despite having just become a Deadhead/Phishhead.

I've put it on here and there in the intervening 29 years, but just can't get excited about it.

Is this what one should listen to, to get into King Crimson? Is there something else I should be listening to? Should I make a point of seeing them live?
July 14, 2021 - 8:41am

#243

simonrob

Joined:
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King Crimson

As far as I can remember I only got to see King Crimson live on two occasions, namely at Weeley Festival near Clacton in August 1971 and Bournemouth Winter Gardens in October 1971. Both occasions were notable for very different reasons. The Weeley Festival was where I got busted for the first time so my memories of that event are somewhat tainted by that unfortunate event. At the Winter Gardens me, my brother and his friend arrived in the afternoon, far too early for the evening show, but the band were already present so we passed the time having a football kick-about in the venue's car park with Mr. Fripp and other members of the band.
July 14, 2021 - 7:40am

#244

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Red Rocks policy statement...

JimInMD, I didn't catch the Billy/Billie show at the Rocks last night, but instead hit my usual open mic night at a local bar, meeting up with women friends I haven't seen in more than a year. Mmmm... hugs and kisses.

Red Rocks poses a couple challenges: one is, are you ready to be in the middle of 10,000 partiers with the Delta variant raging through the younger demographic? Also, for bands that charge in the $75 range for gen'l admish, the resellers jack that up, ridiculously. I don't know if last night woulda been easier to get in, but Tedeschi Trucks' $75 gen'l admish tics for July 30 now run for north of $200. Lastly, I don't casually attend shows at the Rocks, never have. Mostly focus on one band, one or two nights, per year. Finally/lastly, blasphemy: I skip all the Dead offshoot bands, from Weir to Billy K to DSO. Hooked on the tapes as never before, just not spending on offshoots as I seek to retire. So it's money and crowd tolerance issues at my end.

As such, I'm clearly no longer the raving rave-ster of yore. Like when we ate Purple Dragon the afternoon of July 7, 1978 and looned about the Rocks, scaring young women and getting crazy long before showtime. I mean, that was only 43 years ago, but what a difference a nearly half-century makes in one's approach.

I'm not quite dead yet, but maintaining a slightly calmer public demeanor. Although we did yuk it up at the bar last night. All is well.

That is all.
July 14, 2021 - 6:46am

#245

Mr. Ones

Joined:
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Jim/Doc

Jim, you didn't give her my address I hope. Yikes!!
Doc, I was interested to see Miles is your #2 in collection size. He's mine also, so MUCH breadth and depth, his music alone could take you through so many different styles and changes. While Bill Frisell would be my 3rd largest collection of one artist, King Crimson is definitely 4th.
Saw them first in 1980, two days in a row, DC/Baltimore. Holy moley how powerful!! I've seen them through the years since then, but probably only 6-8 more times. I am hoping to make this 'farewell' tour. Fripp is great, but can be a little arrogant at times(He once claimed that Jimi Hendrix didn't even know how to hold a guitar pick "correctly").
There's not much better in my world than sharing a love of music with like minded others, and for that, I am grateful to everyone here.
July 14, 2021 - 5:59am

#246

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
June 17, 2008

King Crimson is never easy.............

Yo!! Rockers!!!

Believe it or not, I have a huge amount of KC recordings, coming in third behind Grateful Dead and Miles Davis. Regardless of era, the Crims have never been less than interesting and are often much more..........

My only gripe about Fripp (who is an ace guitar player) is that he has occasionally released suboptimal audience recordings, probably because sometimes those were the only recordings available............

Rock on,

Doc
What's another word for Thesaurus?
July 14, 2021 - 4:08am

#247

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Crimson King

I haven't heard much of Robert Fripps pre King Crimson recordings. It must have been a hell of a thing, though, to see them support The Stones at Hyde Park in 1969. Sympathy For The Devil was one thing-but this was of a different order entirely.

I didn't see them in the 1970s, although I caught them twice in recent years-and they are stunning live-three drummers at the front of the stage and a set list to die for.

These Crimson box sets are pretty impressive too. My favourite is "Starless". But for sheer value for money and wealth of improvised music the "Heaven and Earth" box set takes some beating. I have had it a few years, and I have no where near got my head round it all. Whole shows improvised from beginning to end, under the title of Projekct recordings. Many of these are on the blu ray discs included. Late 90s -2000 or so they were recorded.

The equivalent in Dead terms to these Prokekct recordings would be if the band had played whole shows which consisted of nothing but drums and space.
July 13, 2021 - 7:36pm

#248

bolo24

Joined:
November 25, 2009

Grateful Dead All Stars

Heard a snippet of "I Know You Rider" going out of the top of the 7th.

If Joe Buck wasn't so enamored with the sound of his own voice, I might have been able to pinpoint the show, or at least the era. Sounded pretty hot.

Oh, now out of the bottom of the 7th, Althea. I'll have to go back and listen if they did this every inning!
July 13, 2021 - 7:28pm

#249

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: Mr. Ones

FYI.. I just got a text from Dennis' wife asking what the fluck a $345 charge was doing on their card from Rhino for the new Jim Stafford limited edition box set.

The Fripp/Crimson stuff often amazes me. Big fan and saw them a bunch in my youth.. hope to catch this tour if possible.

The GD still amazes me also.

Decided to stream Billy and the Kids at Red Rocks tonight.. so glad I did. Amazing. Jerry might be dead but the Grateful Dead lives on and some the folks yielding their own custom axes.. are right up there with him. Tom Hamilton and Billy Strings are amazing.. add in Carlos Santana who sat in on Billy's 75's in Hawaii and.. perhaps I made my point.

This music is 'almost' as strong as ever and it's still growing and picking up new musicians, new fans and seemingly accelerating.

Hoping/wishing HendrixFreak is alive and well and freaking feely in the crowd.

Shoutout to AJS.. our favorite sports (and GD) enthusiast.
July 13, 2021 - 3:06pm

#250

That Mike

Joined:
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Alvarhanso

My fumble. I had Mr Fripp as an Ex King, when he is still quite current. My apologies. Thanks!

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Changes

Something's different with the interface here.

Don't we sometimes see changes right before an announcement?

#BoxMe

changes

Yes, it all looks a bit odd. After logging on a box appeared asking if I wanted to translate from Russian!-despite the fact that the text still seems to be in English.
Then the format is different, and a message appears telling me I can no longer post new messages on the forum. So it will be interesting to see if this message appears.

Re: Changes

Translate to Russian?!

They are going to have to get this box set announcement out the door today. They're going to need many bitcoins to pay the ransom and get their website back!

Sending a PM is nearly impossible.. Count Vlad has taken over the website.

Wake up to find out

That the website has been redesigned.

A little disorienting at first. Glad I’m sober or I would have been really confused.

Edit:
reCRAPTCHA appears to be the same.

#boxme

Come on Dave,
What’s the hold up?

Time to hire a Vault assistant or two.

me no likey

soon there won't be anything left of the old guard

Mmmm. Double fail

😬

Fail

So they can't even get a website update right. If I scroll down to below the 10 displayed posts so I can add a new post, I first encounter another version of the header text followed by a buttload of posts in ascending order starting with the original Vguy post #1. The avatars on these old posts are huge, so I can now fully appreciate the broken fragments of Vguy's glass. After this multitude of old posts I then come to where I can type this in, but the text box is wider than the screen on my mobile. Tragic really.

Re: Vault Assistant

I just applied and got an immediate response. It looks like I got the Archivist Intern job at Rhino, my mom is so proud. First things first.. what to do with Dave for the next couple years?... mmmmm

#RFK1973orBust

Edit: You're right SimonRob.. we get a close up view peoples Avatar's when we reply. It looks like someone went to town on VGuy's glass with a WorkingMan's Dead Hatchet!

Speaking of the hatchet.. it's the perfect weapon for an angry mob to wield and take over the vault. Just saying.. how many of us are there with these hatchets that have yet to see our favorite 1973 set of shows released? I'm not sure they thought this one through.

Steal your interface

Next time you see me
Things won't be the same

re: 2/17/73

ConeKid...this show and in particular, the transition of which you speak is as good as you have discovered. Sublime, smooth, like buttaaah. It's just sooooo good, makes me wonder why they didn't do that more often. Love this show, it is release worthy IMHO.

Sixtus

P.S. I feel like I am back on dial-up and using AOL with this new website design. It almost seems as if someone did something half way then just said fuck it.

Sorry about your glass VGuy...the picture says it all. Consider it the most challenging 3-D puzzle ever. And it appears my glass is out for delivery. We shall see if we can swap shards.

Steal your interface

Next you see me
Things won't be the same

Storming vaults...

Or Stormy Daniels? It’s too early for this I’m all confused?
Well Jim if it’s obviously ok for a mob of traitors to storm the capital with no repercussions, storming the vault seems like a no brainer!

Re: Glass

VGuy.. get some super glue and two part epoxy. You can rebuild it..

better, stonger, faster than it was before.

Oh, right on Oroborous.. alright everyone, get your Workingman's Dead Hatchets.. meet you in Burbank. I'll be the one wearing a tie dye waving my WMD hatchet in the air getting tased by TSA.

Let’s do it!

I’ll be the one in the sweater...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcl75xZSaQ

What the deuce?

"Why are things so Strange around here?"

I think it has something to do with Gainsville... obviously.

Better (Grateful) Dead Than Red

What is with all this Russian garble on the site!? And this new format! Set
phasers to stun.

Regardless, here is something y’all may find interesting. It features Bob
Weir, and while I’m not a big saxophone guy, I am intrigued.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dave…

Go AVs, go!

Mr. Thin

So what about Gainesville?

First the Colonial Pipeline....

....then JBS, now this hack. Smells like pelmeni.

Gainesville

Banesville
Canesville
Danesville
Feignsville
Hanesville
Janesville (Wisconsin)
Kanesville
Lanesville
Mainsville
Painsville
Rainsville
Sanesville
Tamesville
Vainsville
Wanesville
Zanesville

Robotsville (eyeroll)

How do we edit a post???

....this is a test of the emergency box set system.

Test failed....

....once you post something, it's there forever. Watch your drunk posts people!!

This is like the beginning of a trip (I've heard)

Normal things begin to appear stranger and stranger the longer you look at them...

"I'll take Gainesville for $500, Alex"

"This Florida city heard a sick Shakedown Street at Alligator Alley in Nov., 1980."

"What is Gainesville, Alex?"

"Gainsville is correct. And that transition to Franklin's is pretty dope too".

"Indeed"

Ha..

"..transition into Franklin's is pretty dope."

Wow.. you cannot edit posts? Fuck.. what if you make a mistake or curse or something.

Edit: Shit. I cursed.

Edit 2: Apparently you can edit and recursively erase your curse worded posts.

New design looks better on an iPad than an iPhone

But the titles look better in bold than plain text.

The most recent site version didn’t show the post that you were responding to, whereas older site versions did show the post.
It’s helpful when you are typing a post and forget what you were responding to.

Edit:
The box that you type in is still really small on an iPad, hard to see what you are typing.
But the member photo is huge.
The web designer screwed up and switched which box was supposed to be large.

Random musings about the reason for a new website design

1) The old site was old and outdated.

2) The old site was overloaded with spam and needed a flush.

3) This site is now being hosted by Fancy Bear.

4) A revved up website is needed so that it doesn’t crash with the upcoming Box announcement.

New site design did nothing to stop spam

https://www.dead.net/forum/30-trips-around-sun-box-digital-usb

Good news, bad news

Okay, I think I've figured it out. The person previously in charge of shipping was promoted to the head of web design.

Re: JP1119

You are correct, sir. Too funny.

...and Conekid, your top 10 list of reasons they needed to update the website is spot on.

PM's are twilight zone weird...

And what's with the Russian thing. I mean, really? How did that get into the mix?

DaP 2014 Bonus Disc

Been a long time since I spun this one. Not too shabby. I literally type off the side of my phone on this and can't read either margin when I type. Somebody didn't test this on Android phones. Or maybe we're testing it for them. I think they were unprepared for Flash deprecation.

Omg Oroborous your dog is eating his tail.

Sure, this upgrade looks like a mess to me...

..but at least we get a close-up pic of Daverock's awesome 6120 with Eddie Cochran's mods.

Pop in the clutch

Let the wheels roll free

Heading south on I5 to Oregon thick traffic

Wife driving

About 100 ft ahead a big collision occurred

She steered through and kept going

Sobering moment, gents

This new format suck balls....

....but at least Vegas won.
The edit button is on the left.
Got it.
Stoltz's wife can drive!
So can my wife. She drives big rigs for a living! New format is definitely not Android friendly at all.
Why is there an APPLY button on the screen?

The APPLY button.

That button is there so that you can apply for membership of the Garden Club.

Coming on here now is a bit…

like waking up in a strange house.

hate this shit

these guys on this site could fuck up a wet dream, why? why did they do this? Hey, who ever did this, you suck. Oh well, just like the rest of the what's left of the Grateful Dead, fucking awful. Who ever designed this, stick to knitting or gardening, cause you can't redesign a web site, that's for sure. BTW, it can't be UJB when Unkle John has passed on.

I am confusion

This mew format is...

The first rule of Garden Club....

....is that we don't speak of garden club.

May the Dead WebMaster

That created this mess, be moonlighting on the Boston Bruin’s webpage.

VGuy - Nice to see the “team colours” avatar back. Enjoy the game tomorrow.

Perhaps They Were On To Something

I noticed half the gardening items are sold out. I started impulse buying for my kids who have a garden....

As I went on this spending rampage, I noticed there are fewer than 500 PNW box sets left. I wonder how many Winterland 1973 and 1977 box sets they produced? Because I was able to get both of those 5-6 years after release. Either they produced way more than 15K or some of these box sets are doing better than we think.

Perhaps Indeed

You stoned babbling monkey.

You Stoned Babbling Monkey

I have little to say, but repeating that phrase made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I get the feeling they will improve on the interface a bit.. (I hope). I am finding that except for PM's, which are a fucking train wreck, most of the functionality is ok. It's clear to me they outsourced a good bit of this, or we would not have gotten the "would you like to translate this page" bs.

But let's give them a chance to make good.

I feel a need to reach out to HendrixFreak. I hope he is not lost in the back country.

Peace all.. have the best rest of the weekend you can possibly have.

Postcard to Sixtus

Ever since last week when you steered me toward that Jam on 6/6/70, I have been deep under cover of the night, searching low and high for 1970 soundboard treasures. I began with what I had but seldom visited: Dark Star 3/24/70. It goes straight into an equally mind-bending Other One. Send lawyers guns and money.

Vguy

Have fun tomorrow. Your boys are looking good.

Nice job Isles.

Playoff hockey is the best.

Angry Jack

I have to agree - way to go Isles!! Any time Boston loses, it is a great day. A few good dust ups in the game too. I love the intensity of the playoffs.

Good luck with your AVs today. Prediction: AVs vs Tampa Bay for the Cup. My dark horse is Vegas.

New interface is bollocks.

Bollocks, I say.

You Stoned babbling Monkey

Heeeyyyyyy, I resemble that remark!

Yeah, go Isles eh!
@&&&*&$& you Marchand, ya Hemorrhoid!

Good luck today Vince, it should be a hell of a game/experience.
The only thing better than playoff hockey is live/in person playoff hockey!

Looks like it’s going to be Tampa, and what about those pesky Habs!
There is nothing like a hot goalie in the playoffs and Price is looking strong.
Hell, the whole teams playing well.
I know the league restructured etc, but how the hell is Montreal possibly playing the AVs or Knights in the conference final? Seems like they should be taking it to the Bs or Tampa? Weird...

Today’s games SHOULD be sweet, let’s hope the refs don’t ruin it...
Both games are big ones. If the Habs go up 3-0....
And If the Knights tie it up that series is going to 11! If the AVs win, they “should” be in the drivers seat. Chever way, should be a big, no “HUGE” day of hockey!
But until then, I need to find me some great sounding dead; mamas at work and I’ve been stuck listening on a iPad at work all week, I need a dose of real audio, sorry neighbors ; )

Oh, could this font be any smaller? Ahem, some of us are old and don’t see so well anymore, like if I can’t read it even with glasses it’s to damn small!

Full capacity @ T-Mobile Arena....

....getting excited here. I haven't been in a large crowd since my last Knights game in early March 2020.
Time to tie this thing up!!

Jim, did you'all call?

Just back from O-Wi-Yu-Kuts, mountains where Utah, Colorado and Wyoming meet... Lots of headroom out there. Working my way through a jar of psilocybin capsules... Not lost, not found. But pretty much coated in dirt after a few days. Back now, checking in on possible box news.

Keen to know whether the box-to-come is fall '72 or spring '69. Loving the latest Dave's, especially the Eyes at the end of first set, 9-8-73, my seventh show to see release. Only 68 more to go.

Cheers, HF

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