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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    Oroborous, I found exactly what you're describing to be what I hear on the 1973 PNW shows. The 1974 shows are fine; it's just 1973. Let me preface this by saying this is by no means any reason not to get the box set - it's an awesome triple dose of '73, Dark Star a la mode, plus the three 1974 shows that sound better than any 1974 show I've heard.

    So what I hear on those 73 shows sounds like what you're describing. Unevenness. Artifacts. Loud symbols. Dropouts. Hiss. Certainly not throughout the entire three shows, but enough to get on the radar of someone who listens to shows with headphones most of the time. And the odd thing is that I don't think anyone else took this from the 1973 revordings on PNW.

    I didn't catch this on Dave's Picks 38, except for the warm-up tune Bertha, which I'm good with, because it's the first song. I listen to Dave's Picks 38 about half a dozen times and then put it down for the last week. I'm putting it back on to see if I hear anything differently. Where are some places that you hear it in the show? Also I'm curious if Playing in the Band and Birdsong are doing it?

    Edit - just listened to a few tracks from Pacific Northwest 73 in the car on the way to get some pizza and it's not nearly as noticeable on regular speakers. DaP 38 sounds better still on the couple of tracks I had time to compare a little bit of. Not that I want to hear anything bad on Dave's Picks 38, but I would be willing to take a listen to whatever tracks you're hearing things on.

  • That Mike
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    Dave L walks into a bar, and has a seat at the front. “I’ll have a beer, bartender”
    The bartender replies “What!? No 2021 Box Set!?”

    Put down the fishing pole, DL, and release that Box!!

  • proudfoot
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    box box box PLEASE

    #38 sound is wobbly here and there

    I just go with it....but it is uneven, fo' sho'

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    53 years ago today..........

    The Dead played at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, along with Big Brother and the Jefferson Airplane. The Dead played a great version of Alligator , hopefully they have a tape of this in the vault and will release it as part of a 1968 box set. My brothers friend went to this show.

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    In some places it’s noticeable enough most people should be able to tell with at least a moderate volume, and being top notch GOGD I’m sure many have cranked it lol. It’s prevalent enough I’m guessing you’d have noticed it even with just a casual listen. I only hope I don’t ruin this for others who haven’t heard it, but go looking for it and then can’t not hear it LOL.
    But I’m thinking it has to be a small sample problem, though I find it hard to believe only 3 of us have had it?

    EDIT: I hear ya 1st SHOW, and truth be told there are many shows I wouldn’t care so much, but these shows, though I don’t agree with best of year hyperbole, are so up my wheelhouse, and otherwise sound so good, that it just bums me out. But hey, just like most dead “worts and all” ; )
    PS: love that if you don’t mind quote!

    DBL EDIT: wonder if they used any compression/limiting on the original tape feed? If said device was not set well it might explain...it’s puzzling that they’d use such a tape? Perhaps they felt it the benefit out weighed the negative and figured most folks wouldn’t notice? Interesting what ever the case.

  • 1stshow70878
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    I'm glad you brought that back up Oro

    I recently got a new amp in my system and am hearing details like never before. You have covered all the sonic equipment possibilities thoroughly so I have to go with operator error on the original recording that could not be Normanized away. Maybe the sound quality is why this took so long to get released. It doesn't seem as bad on the 9/7 material. Worth putting up with for sure but it kind of spoils playing it really loud. The old church of the IDM. (It Don't Matter) From ancient Denver AM radio with Charley & Barney in the morning. They had their own religion: "If you don't mind, then it don't matter". The 9/7 second set is worth it with that amazing Eyes jam.
    Cheers!

  • DeadVikes
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    Wait, we are supposed to listen to these releases??

    I just got my copy last week and have been able to listen to it once. I think it is a great release. Sound quality is not as good as say Dave's #21 or #5, but still good. I have a good old wired system in my basement that I am sure it is nothing like yours, but it is still good. Anyway, I will have to put this one again and try to see if I hear what you are talking about. Typically if there are issues with the recording I usually pick it up on the first listen. I didn't on this one. Is it perfect, no, but like I said I still think it sounds really good and the performance is stellar.

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    Schizophrenic 38 (production issues?)

    On one hand, most of the music on here (and Bonus) is awesome! Even the complicated new stuff is hot...
    On the other hand, I can’t believe Angry Jack Straw, DCVMT, and I are the only ones having issues or hearing???, not even sure what the hell it is?.....
    I’ve purposely held off on posting about this until I spent significant time on this first...
    I’ve tried the actual discs in different players, server playing on several different systems,... same weird results?
    Worst part is not being able to figure out what it is?...
    The overall levels are not too hot, peaks set at -1 dB which is how I like it; no need to chance over saturation by going 0 db (that’s what a volume control is for...). So don’t think the mastering level is too hot...
    My guess is something in processing/mastering? Perhaps a synchronicity issue between processors?
    Perhaps some hard compression/limiting. I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time which would lean towards some kind of overall level problem. It’s only on individual sources at mostly individual instances, though there times when more then one source distorts...
    Don’t think it’s original tape over saturation because it would be highly unlikely that that would of gone unnoticed by recordist and wouldn’t have been so prevalent on so many different sources. Meaning you might have one guy who’s level is too hot because he turned up extra and the recordist didn’t catch it and adjust right away, but I’ve never heard a tape with basically, potentially, all the sources distorting like this.
    It’s often very subtle, other times it’s not. Haven’t noticed it as much on the bonus disc. Seems to start a little as LIG picks up volume, only the louder parts of Stella, but from then on its more prevalent.
    38 itself is pretty much riddled with these distortion artifacts.
    Complicating things are other variables like Bob using some kind of distortion peddle, which I’ve never heard from him this early on? Kieth occasionally has some noisy stuff kick in/out? Cymbals often trigger it, but everything, including occasionally vocals too.
    Agree with All that you can really hear and appreciate Bobs playing on all of this, in fact I liked the overall mix. I can see why this show was regarded by DL so highly, which makes this ?? all the more annoying.
    Oh, and I don’t think it’s my gear as all my previous stuff still sounds the same, so it’s something going on with the production of this release.
    Don’t know any of the specifics about plangent, but wouldn’t think that processing would alter volume peaks like this?
    My guess is that perhaps there were signal to noise issues on the original tape, or inconsistent levels between instruments (one significantly loader than another), where some compression was used to bring the overall level up, which then caused certain, individual sources to occasionally, noticeably, distort due to hard compression, but that would usually be more quick, arrack only phenomena.
    And you wouldn’t think that pros of this caliber, with the gear they have access to would do such a thing?
    I’m just desperate to figure out what the hell is going on since it’s driving me nuts and ruining what would otherwise be a long term, go to release, maddening! It’s no secret I’m a fall/winter 73 nut, so this of all releases being almost unlistenable is Murphy on 11!
    I’ve listened to this at least a dozen times already trying to just enjoy the awesome shows/music, but this phenomena keeps rearing its ugly head, uggggggg!
    It really freaked me out the first virgin spin as I was really psyched for some killer fall 73 so prepped accordingly, including firing up the big boy system extra loud and putting on the ole proverbial seat belt. So when it started to become unmistakable it really freaked me out! Now it’s just an unfortunate, un-ignorable annoyance.
    But mostly, this is deeply disappointing that such a great show, from one of the best eras is basically unlistenable.
    This is so frustrating too, as I’m sure many of you are scratching your heads wondering what the hell im taliking about lol. But at least 2 others; Angry Jack, and DCVT have experienced the same thing, so it’s not just me.

    The question then; is this a product defect, if so, is it comprehensive or just a small sample, and thus should we be asking for replacements?
    I’m guessing unfortunately/fortunately it’s a small sample problem or this board would be filled with displeasure!
    Possibly many folks listening on “normal” modest gear, at lower volumes, with normal ears might not notice much of it, but not everyone! I have to believe if this was a comprehensive problem more folks would be noticing it?
    So fortunately it’s probably not a problem for most, and unfortunately, because it’s sometimes hard for just a few to get acknowledgment of such a unusual idiosyncrasy.
    Ugggggg, my brain hurts from this release pulling me in two such diverse directions!
    Luckily I have several hundred other shows to listen too ; )
    Would love to hear if anyone else out there is experiencing this same problem?

  • annalee10
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    Got my replacement Daves 38, big thanks to MaryE and Doc Rhino for taking care of me.....Have listened to it all three times and this is an AWESOME release. One of the best Birdsongs ever, can’t stop playing it. Great first version of WRS and Let it Grow. The bonus disc is fantastic, been listening to that eyes almost every night for the last week, killer version.
    I agree with the calls foe a fall 72 box or the Ark.....please Dave😊

  • 1stshow70878
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    Fun story about the duck "calls". Never even noticed or heard about it. To me what is famous about the show is Bobby's intro to Jack-a-Roe. Very inventive and the kind of stuff Jerry was probably watching and listening closely to and would weave into the fills. Not sure I even caught the significance of it until Phil brought it up in the "Phil Zone" CD.
    Latvala! And cheers!
    EDIT: Listening to Fox Theatre Atlanta 5-18-77 now and blown away by The Other One > Brokedown. Source is a tape recorded in 1994 from the GD Hour radio show. David Gans must have been using DAT direct from the vault source as the sound is amazing for a TDK DS-X100 tape. (recorded in Dolby C, but I don't often use the Dolby on replay as it dulls the treble too much) Unfortunately David Gans was not allowed to offer whole shows back then as I recall.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I think I went to a Dead show, and a hockey game broke out......

I saw the Russians vs Bruins, think it was 72, man those guys could skate!

Hockey rockey on!

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The greatest hockey player who ever lived: Bobby Orr, and I love him......

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I am playing this at a little beer party and some are saying they have never had this tape and are asking to get them the cd. Unfortunately I just cant lend it because it is like the trader tapes of old. Now you see it, and now you don't. I did tell them to subscribe. That's the best I could do.

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Two cool shows from the Fillmore West, 6/7/69 & 6/7/70, both would make great releases.

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You should go to more games. The GKs look good. The series could easily be 3-1 in your favor.

The Habs? Who knew?

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Vguy, ya picked a hell of a game to go to!
That first period was amazing, then...not sure what happened?
I don’t like what I’m feelin, my dog sense is all weird, think I need to start barking!

And what about those Habs!
Who’d a thunk it?

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....going around and round. Maaaan, that much fun should be illegal. My ears are still ringing. I'm hungover, but I don't care. Place was electric. Go Knights Go!!!

VGuy - You saw a “barn burner”, and a FULL house, to boot. For Toronto’s final game (tear drop), they allowed 500 health care workers in! A nice gesture, but after 24/7 Covid work, it might as well have been 5,000 Nuns,
these folks were too pooped to party.
Regardless, it must feel nice to be back among the “peeps” again, and what a game!!

Oro/Angry Jack - I may have to consider seppuku if the lackey running dogs Habs get to the semi-finals. At least the Isles laid a beating on the Bruins…

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or to us, the Habs

MIKE: careful with that Samurai Sydney....
So if the Habs make it to the finals, and I rooted for em, would you still be my neighbor (cue Fred Rogers)

HENDRIX FREAK: good to see your still out kicking ass!

son's catalytic converter (the cheap replacement one) got stolen AGAIN.

and today the district's internet connection has taken 7 quaaludes and gone for a swim in a vat of molasses.

grr...

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I have none. Other than Price, the Habs aren't that good. They had the lowest regular season point total of any team in the playoffs.

My only thought is that the hockey gods are exacting revenge on the Jets for Scheifele's Dale Hunter like hit on Evans. Gotta love it when guys like that whine about their suspension and the "abuse" their families are taking after the fact. Hey Dickwad, it's all on you. Suck it up and deal with it. Evans is out indefinitely because you behaved like a total jackass.

Let's go Isles.

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I only played hockey about twice, back in the 1970s. The best thing about it, as I recall, was tripping people up who were better than me with that stick. Actually ,tripping people up who are better than you is quite a rewarding thing to do in any field of activity.

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No problem Oro, if you cheer for the Habs. But around here, it is a definite Hatfield-McCoy thing with them.

Jack - Agree 110% on Scheiffle. He deserves more. It’s funny you mention Dirty Dale Hunter - I knew a bunch of guys that played high level hockey, and a friend of a workmate got a training camp tryout with the Quebec Nordiques, before they moved to Colorado, and Hunter was on the team. Buddy attends camp, had no idea who Hunter was, but thought the best way to get noticed was to take a run at someone. So buddy takes a run at Hunter. Needless to say, about ten less teeth later, he got cut. Sometimes brains and sports don’t mix!

Unrelated, but my Workingman Dead t-shirt is fading like it was printed with chalk, and I’ve worn it maybe a dozen times!! WTF!? Mickey Hart is kinda Ickey Har now. Yet my Egypt 78 shirt keeps going and going. Dear Quality Control…

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It seems different shirts have different styles and print "thickness". My shirts have been great. Halloween (ugh I forget what year- all orange and black with candles); June 1976 yellow and green tie die; PNW greyish tie die with a great print; and DaP 30 black with front cover of yikes bonus disc or the regular release, I forget. All good though after many washes.

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I voiced a little frustration on the subject a few weeks ago. Most are cheaply made, quite thin and have sizing and other seemingly third world issues like they got them from the chicklet kids in Tijuana. My Anthem 50th t shirt is so paper thin I don't wear it if I think it's going to rain. I still sometimes buy them but they are honestly some of the poorest quality t-shirts I own. Well.. they are organic, but that's all I see they have going for them.

I would say up the quality and charge a couple more dollars but they are not cheap to begin with. A few years back someone must have said, charge a couple extra dollars and shop for cheaper materials so now they are boxed into a corner. I buy less than I would if they were decent.. so they make more per unit but are likely selling less units.

They need to be made from thicker or more substantial cotton for one, start there. Some of the more recent ones are a little better.. perhaps find a decent vendor and stick with them instead of playing disappearing ink or wet t-shirt roulette by using different vendors with different types of stock/blanks/thickness/ink/etc.

My two cents.

Edit: For what it's worth, the folks at the Jerry site seem to source their shirts from the same chicklet kids. The electric at the eel shirt is seemingly made from milled cotton that is magically just a single atom in thickness. A feat that was previously thought to be a scientific impossibility.

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I got the Egypt 78 tee when Rockin The Cradle was released at least a dozen years ago, and this is truly Built To Last. My Stealie shirts have well done graphics, and PNW looks like it just came out of the box. Most have held up well for working or wearing, but I think Workingman’s is going to be a car buffer soon.

Hang in there Isles - you got this! Bruins doth sucketh!

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PM's seem to magically work now whereas an hour ago they hummed and puked. I think they are working on the interface. It should improve with time.

Now back to t-shirts that will not ruin our run for Senate should it rain and they get wet. First world problems, I know.

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Now I know you do things a little differently over the pond. For example, you call egg chasing football whereas some people over here call it rugby (or rugger if you're posh)......and hockey, when i was growing up, was mostly played by girls, on muddy pitches with hockey sticks and cricket (weird game where in it's purest form you mostly end up with a draw after 5 days) balls whereas over there the main purpose appears to be battering the f**k out of each other while playing on an ice rink. Now then, I heard on the radio last night that in Washington DC they're offering a 'joint for jab' system whereas over here i've given a thousand or so covid jabs and.......i think i'll just have a little lie down and turn the sounds up....Dick's 7 of course.....while i await the postie to deliver the film version of Oliver Sachs 'The Last Hippie'. OK...... back to your regular scheduled programming about T shirts and stuff.....

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Washing their t-shirts! That is asking for trouble. We never did that back in the day.

I concur with DocMarty about sports. At school boys played football or rugby in the winter and cricket in the summer whilst girls played hockey or netball (which is apparently a bit like static basketball). As for playing hockey on ice, or polo in a swimming pool for that matter, I can accept that but I can't see it catching on.

It appears that the site has reverted to the version that we were all used to up until a week ago or thereabouts. It has been said that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This was more a question of if it don't need fixing, break it. When will they ever learn?

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We also used to have to do what they called "cross country " running in our school. This entailed jogging round some of the roughest back streets of Oldham. Jogging?...sprinting more like. Knowing some form of self defence was essential.

I bought a few Dead tee shirts around 1990, when the Dead came to England. They seem to be pretty good quality, too - I still have them. Enormous sizes I seem to buy. Either that was all that was available, fashions have changed or I have shrunk.

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They must have paid the Bitcoin ransom to the Russian hackers.

Just in time for today’s Box announcement.
Hint, hint Dave. Bring it on.

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back in the day t shirts were made heavy, thick, 100% cotton and they used name bands, fruit of the loom, haines, beefy, the list goes on. Today, they are made in China, super thin, crappy graphics and don't have the colors, or trippy designs that they used to have. I just purchased some t shirts from liquid blue, a fine brand, used to be, now, no tag which to me is a sign of a thin made in china shirt. They were all very thin, good graphics, only one had a real tag and it was made in USA. I have dead shirts from the 80's that have wear, but are still wearable and look good. And I have worn the crap out of them.
Just goes to show, you don't never know......let the buyer beware.

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The mighty Phil Lesh makes a rare appearance in Asheville, NC with son Grahams' band Midnight North. After checking the set list, I see they did one Grateful Dead tune.
So it looks like the first show I will attend this year will be the same band that I saw just before covid shut down the world. Live Dead is making an appearance this summer back at the same venue I saw them at in March 2020. Last time there were maybe 20 people there, I think there will be a few more there this time. Tom Constanten is still in the band and I am looking forward to some 68-70 dead tunes.

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I mean really this has been so lame around here for new releases since like December 2020, IMHO!!! How long can they wait to announce the 2021 BOX SET!?!? .....Last year they announced that '76 box in February! Are they seriously holding out on the 2021 BOX news until the Skull & Roses 50th anniversary set is officially released?!?! Has anyone really taken a look at the Skull & roses 50th release- IT'S SO BAD compared to the other other 50th anniversary releases so far.....the "bonus disc" literally has nothing new, and lots of repeats from the original release- WTF?!?! Please get that out of the way so we can get the 2021 BOX SET info out already......hell, at this point there should be some whispers from the bozo guy about what Dave's Pick #39 is for goodness sake?!?!?!?

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That website demo was like a bad trip. I'm glad we're Back To Normal. I no longer type off the end of the page into cyber space. Tricksy Hobbits.

Well we're at the anniversary of one of the most popular out of print box sets. I had a good portion of the 6/7/77 show yesterday. I've always dug this Scarlet Begonias with its mesmerizing longer-than-usual opening bit. Also has a pretty good transitional jam from 7:00 - 10:00 mark. This version of Peggy-o went up a few notches yesterday. The piano during Jerry's solo is some intense stuff. Peggy-o is one of my favorite ballads, along with Brokedown Palace, which is on today's show.

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Washington and Arizona giving joints out if you get a covid vax, sure, now they do it. If every state gave out joints for shots, we would be at 70% fully vaxed in no time. Hey Deadnet, if you were to give out joints, I bet you could sell a lot more of that made in Taiwan stuff :)

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47 years ago today I was down at El Camino Park in Palo Alto, to see a show with Garcia & Saunders, Weir & Kingfish, and the Rowan brothers., what a cool scene. My brothers friend , Jake Pierre, did the poster for the event. In less then one week , we would be at Winterland for the return of the Dead.

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Just received my Grateful Dead gardeners’ t-shirt today (made in Honduras) and it’s really rather good. Great graphic and much thicker than usual. I ordered 2XL as I’ve had XL recently which my new baby great nephew would have trouble slipping into and boy is this one big! It’s white which means it’s probably best not to wear it when actually gardening.

Rough Trade (U.K.) are selling Paris 1972 vinyl edition for a penny under £110 this Saturday. Any left after Record Store in person visits are on sale online at 6 pm. Not sure about splashing out for this as I already have the CD. It’d be interesting to see if they have a booklet with liner notes and photos.

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I've already been vaccinated seven or eight times, and then I read your post. Well, what's the harm in one more.

kidding of course, happily vaccinated just once but don't tempt me so Washington State!!

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putting up a barrier against Covid was motivation enough back in March

I wonder if Gov Inslee would still give me a "reward"...

prolly not

on another note: go listen to Motorhead's version of Whiplash

you'll be glad you did

audio caffeine

"never stop
never quit
we are Motorhead"

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Organic???

Wasn't cotton organic???

I'm cutting down on the tee shirt buying. I have more than anyone need and half have become work shirts. Biggest thing though is I read an article recently that talk about how these "cheap" tee shirts are filling landfills and becoming a new environmental problem. ........ so I really don't need anymore for now :-)

Jim, I like to see your woodwork. Question,,,, once milled is it cherry anymore?

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Joints?

I've been traveling around getting shots wherever they're giving "stuff" away. I've gotten several gift cards from states and vendors, a load of free Applebee's meals, a chance to win a new Harley, a chance to win an old Harley, a case of Colt 45 (they were giving these away in inner cities) and if I was just 1 minute sooner I could have scored a Grateful Dead Hatchet! Damnit, back to plan 2.

BTW - Jim when did you say you were going out to canoe?

BTW 2 - Just to mention, Got sent a 2019 show of String Cheese, looks like they did just 1 song , Rosie. It's 75 minutes long!!! Must be up there with the "longest" song.

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Was it jacked up,
Or was it Jack Strawed.

Kind of like that 90s bumper sticker,
“Is it Dead or is it Live”.

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Damn! You and I were at a lot of the same bay area shows! I was at 6/8/75 El Camino Park also, and I think somewhere I have a tape of the show.

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Strawed.
Definitely Jack Strawed.
Definitely Wapner.

6-tus

p.s. comfy website format = happy spot

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The 75 min Rosie, a single song set. An almost unique thing, even in the jamband world. Apart from that one at Electric Forest by String Cheese, the only other single song set I know of is one that Phil says the Dead played during their strip club run, where they played 5 45-50 min sets a night, and one night, they did In the Midnight Hour for a full 45 min set. Phish has done at least one 2 song set, and their longest single song was the 58 min Runaway Jim 11/29/97, and the Disco Biscuits jammed an improvised soundtrack to SpeedRacer for NYE 1999, a 2 hr jam called Akira Jam, but that, too, ended up going into a second song. The other contender for longest single song would be an unknown Jam that the Allman Brothers did as the final encore on 6/26/71 at the Fillmore East, the night BEFORE they closed down the legendary venue with a 75 min set that was pretty good. The mediocre performance of the finale may be attributed to the goings on of that night before, which was the ultimate show moment for Butch Trucks and other members of the band who said when they had played all their songs, and encored with a big Mountain Jam, the audience wanted more, and they came back and did a 2 hour jam that kept going past dawn. When they finished, nobody applauded, they just shuffled out silently everyone mesmerized by the event, with Duane remarking of the solemn departees, "Goddamn, it's like leaving church." And wouldn't you know, there is no recording of that special night. Here's a first hand account of that night, including a great picture he took from the 5th row.
https://duaneallman.com/the-night-they-closed-the-fillmore-down/

moe. is a band that plays really long, but my buddy who's seen them like 40 times seems to think that they can hit 30-40 min quite often, he doesn't recall knowing any hour long excursions on one song. Possibly worth noting String Cheese had never hit 40 min on one song before that Rosie. They've got maybe 25 30+ min jams in 25 years of recordings and 2,000 shows, but will do completely segued sets fairly regularly. And they will open with a 20 min song more than any band I know, but usually they've segued by the time a half hour has rolled around.

The long 30-45 min jam periods of the Dead's career is a neat thing to delve into. Apart from that 45 min Midnight Hour, and a 32 min one 9/3/67 on Fallout From the Phil Zone, not too many known 30 min jams. Not many circulating versions of Viola Lee Blues, either. Dark Star and The Other One weren't regularly approaching 20 min (let alone 30) until '69, and Lovelight would be the big 30-40 min performance. Then Europe '72, and Dark Star and The Other One started hitting 30 min (and now even 40) with regularity until the end of 1974, which was largely the end of the 30 min single song jam. After 1976 even 20 min would be seldom breached by one contained song and jam before a segue. But now with Dead and Co a Black Peter will only *feel* like 40 min.

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Keithfan, you did me a solid once and replaced my disc 2 from Dave's Picks 8 after I scratched mine and the Fire On The Mountain skipped. Except the title in itunes wasn't Dave's Picks 8, it was "Back To Normal with the Grateful Dead". Now I read you describing the Website as "Back to Normal" after first describing it as an acid trip. I have theory that you went to the Dave's 8 show, tripped, possibly for the first time, and were relieved you returned "back to normal". Am I close?

Thanks for the great read on the Allman’s last night at the Fillmore. What a show that would have been. I recently picked up Dickey Betts’ Official Bootleg Vol 1 - excellent! - and as the knee bone is connected to the shin bone, out came the Allman’s box set “Trouble No More” for a few spins. A great, great jam band, that boasted some remarkable guitarists.

The Boston Bruins still suck

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