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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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    38 production issues cont....

    Wow, lol, this is all over the place.
    I’ve tried twice to go through with the intention of noting precise instances with pad and paper, but didn’t because I didn’t want to waste a whole day on this but it obviously needs to be done lol. The situation is the boss!
    It’s a dirty job but somebody needs to do it, so guess that’s what I’m doing today lol.
    First, a few reply’s in an attempt to clear some things up or perhaps get more of us on the same page?

    - FIRST THE SOUND: there is nothing wrong with the “sound” of this, it’s some kind of production anomaly that hurts the “sound”
    - THE LEVELS TOO HIGH: I don’t believe this is the problems since the peak level is at -1db, which is perfect. You’ll notice on discs that are over mastered set at 0db with hard compression to make them LOUDER. IMHO this style of mastering is obnoxious and sucks! There has been much discussion on this the last ten years or so about this elsewhere if your interested. I stopped buying “remastered” stuff after getting some Floyd and Stones Some Girls since they sound like shit. All their doing is compressing the hell out of the mix to make it louder, but that ruins the dynamic range, which is one of the most important elements of good music I.e., see the GD! Luckily, the GOGD folks don’t do this!
    - BAD COMPRESSION: sometimes if the recording levels were too low there can be a bad signal to noise ratio. You’ve all probably heard this with a beloved tape that you have to turn up extra loud to hear, which then makes tape noise and hiss super noticeable. BITD sometimes folks would use a compressor. This cuts off some of the level peaks but boosts some of the quieter sounds, hopefully making the ratio of noise to sound more tolerable. But there are limits to how much you can use this method without causing hard compression or limiting which can cause the processor to distort.
    This is referring to all analog too, digital is even more unforgiving about clipping etc. I wouldn’t think they’d use this methodology on a distributed piece of professional work, but it could be possible? If they wanted this show released bad enough and the tape was noisy...? And/or If they felt that the vast majority of people would never notice it, who knows?
    - TYPICAL 73: agree, besides these issues, and perhaps some differences in the mix I.e., Bob is really nicely present, this sounds very 73...
    - THE MIX: this is not the mix. Whatever your feelings are on the mix, that isn’t the problem
    - THE USUAL: yes there are the “usual” “dropouts”, “unevenness”, etc, but none of these or the usual stuff people comment on, are the problem, this is different. In all my years I’ve never experienced this!
    - WASHY: not sure what that means, but I doubt that’s it either. Washy sounds like more of the “normal” idiosyncrasies found on 50 year old non professionally recorded tape.
    - WOBBLY: : same with this, not sure exactly what is meant as I’ve never heard it used in professional audio terms before lol, but I’m guessing it’s same as above in that it’s a “normal” item that occasionally is noticeable? If it’s meant in regards to variable tape speed issues, that is not the problem we’re referring to here.
    -“IN THE BEGINNING”: this problem has nothing to do with the often occurrence of the mix taking awhile to be dialed in by the mixer etc.
    DARK-STAR: though there is definitely a clipping factor here, I can assure you it’s not due to amplifier clipping. My MC 601 mono blocks have circuitry to prevent clipping, plus, I don’t push them that loud. That’s the whole point of having 600 watt amps, headroom! It’s all about phat tone, not volume! I don’t like super loud anymore, so I find around 90 db peaks or so at the listening position of about 7-8’ is plenty loud. At that volume, the amp meters usually are registering 60 watt peaks, so no where near clipping.
    I’m curious what you mean about your equalizer “evening” out the sound besides the eq? I’m assuming you have some kind of limiter in the unit? I’m curious what unit your using? EQ itself has nothing to do with this problem.

    A little info on EQ though: it is usually used for 1 of 2 reasons; professionally, it is used as little as possible to tune a room, like a studio or dedicated listening room using sophisticated analyzers and testing equipment.
    The second general use is for preference; the way many of you use it to suit your personal taste influenced by the gear, and speakers/headphones your using. It is also used similarly to mix individual sources for live and recorded music. Though live EQ is also used for room issues, it is more often used to “color” sound to preference, not to make things accurate. Whole nother thing there that the reader can look up about accurate vs “good” sound...
    But research increasingly shows that phase/timing issues are the biggest negative factor on sound and unfortunately EQ can cause unwanted phase issues. If you ever wondered why Mickeys studio stuff is the gold standard it’s because he doesn’t use EQ but instead painstakingly uses appropriate mics and mic placement. If you must use EQ, you should try to cut prominent frequency’s instead of boosting others. Like turn down the bass versus turning up the treble. You should never boost if possible. The little op amps in the knobs were not intended to be used as amplifiers, but that’s what your doing when you boost! Sorry, I don’t explain this stuff vert well. So if your having to boost all those upper frequencies, no offense, but you might have bad sounding speakers and/or significant hearing loss, something more common in us older folks than most might be aware of. Like you could have hearing loss and not even realize it unless you get tested! Of course all that really matters is if your happy with your rig, no matter how much or how little it costs etc, the only thing that matters is if your happy with it!
    - SMALL BATCHES: I disagree that it’s not possible for damaged small batches. Yes their using the same master, that’s why it’s called a master, but that doesn’t mean that batches of blank/raw discs couldn’t be flawed or that somehow a setting got changed during the master transferring. I don’t think it’s the former but could be the latter?
    It could be something as esoteric as there were weird power issues on the grid at the plant during part of the run? Again, I don’t think that’d be the case as any real professional facility would have isolated, professionally treated power, but it’s an example of the many weird things that can happen with electronics and electricity that most folks have no idea about.
    HOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING: what your listening on may well be a factor if your not hearing it, but I doubt this is caused by what your listening on. This is definitely a production issue, either on the original tape, or during the subsequent production.
    I’m still wondering if they ever used a limiter and/or compressor on the original recording? It would make sense to have one since Kidd et el can’t be sitting there the whole time riding the mix like that. These guys had other responsibilities, so to ensure that something/someone doesn’t occasionally clip the recording, using a soft limit could smooth out those occasional peaks. But there are limits to this (no pun intended), if someone turns up significantly louder, it’ll still clip and can cause audible distortion by overdriving the limiter/compressor etc.
    This to me would explain the phenomena. If your sharing a unit via a aux mix on a mixing console, that means everything, all sources potentially get bussed through that unit. If the unit isn’t set just right, any time anything engages the unit, there could be audible artifacts caused by this. That’s why I think this may be it, since it’s not effecting only one source, and it’s not everything all the time. It’s effecting most sources but not all the time...

    LOL, being such an audio nut, not knowing what’s going on is more annoying to me than the actual problem, though I think it’s bad enough that I’ll need to look into replacements. It is definitely very interesting, at least to this geek!
    Anyway, I’ll go through song by song and document as much as I can and report back.

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    GD, zits and all

    play on
    play on
    play on

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    A Sound Technician Walks Into A Bar…

    Jeffrey Norman walks into a bar, and orders a beer. The bartender takes one look at him, and says, “Ok!! But I don’t want to hear any problems from you!!”

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    To All Those With Issues Regarding The Sound

    Please read the caveat emptor for Dick's Pick's.

    We now return to our regularly scheduled program.

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    I hear some loud hi-hat in places. Like the beginning of Jack Straw. If you get a chance can tell me if you hear the same kind of loud symbols on the "Big Railroad Blues" on PNW boxed set June 24, 1973 Portland? I sure do.

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    Sir James

    That is pretty much what I currently have.

    About 6-7 years ago, I was looking for a new car. Well, new to me. Buying a new car is one of the biggest rip-offs known to mankind. You are much better off purchasing a slightly used one for a 1/3 or more less. Anyway, I went about my search by bringing a copy of DaP1 to the dealerships. The whole point was that since I spend so much time in the car, I wanted a nice sound system. I would simply turn on the car and listen to the music. After a minute or so, the salesperson would ask if I was ready for a drive. "Not needed" I would reply to a perplexed look. "Thank you for your time." Most wanted thousands more for an upgraded sound system. I wound up going with Acura because the sound was excellent and the price was significantly lower.

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    Ha!

    Jim, you had me at "There is really only one solution". I sensed some chortle-worthy shenanigans on the way.

    Awesome Version Alert -

    My favorite part of Casey Jones is the finale where they repeat the chorus a bunch of times and everyone joins in and plays "denser" I guess you would say. The combo of Pigpen's Hammond, Jerry and Bobby laying it on thick, and Keith's piano gradually building in tempo - it's just fantastic on this night.

    I think Pigpen was really wielding that Hammond with some exceptional skill at that point. Never flashy, but he could play fast at need, was always on time, and always picked his spots with musical know-how. That was quite a period when they had both Keith and Pigpen playing together.

    Edit - whoops - would help if I provided a date - 5/18/72. I'm still rummaging through that show.

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    lol moment last night

    went to bed early
    had my phone on archive 5/13/83 set two
    she comes up later
    I am asleep
    Space is full steam
    She hisses: "THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!! THIS IS THE WORST MUSIC I HAVE EVER HEARD!!"

    uh, ok. I'll just turn it off....

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    Re: AJS

    Clearly you need the Wall of Sound Mobile Edition T (C) (R).

    https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/382735668306627856/

    Pimp up your ride.

    (......honey, I got us a new car!)

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    So, I listened to the release in the car this morning. Now I am more baffled by the fact that most folks can't seem to hear the distortion. The best way I can describe it, as I stated in my initial post, is that the cymbals are way to high in the mix. It's quite a nuisance. I also recant my earlier comment on the problem not being on the 9/7 release. It is very evident on HCS. Hell, even our dog can hear it.

    It's a shame because it detracts from an otherwise fine release.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Great reads on the thread today, Ah yes, good old Black Sabbath, I saw them twice, once in 72 and again in 76, what a difference 4 years can make. In 72 they were like a hippy peace band, that was really loud and really rocked hard, Tony just shredded that guitar more than once and Ozzy was all over the stage. No opening act, just a night with Sabbath, real Heavy. Flash ahead 4 years and a totally different band was on stage. The equipment on that night was tightly packed together and over head was a large cross, like an iron cross design, and each band member had a large cross or crosses around their necks. Ozzy was wasted and flopped about like a fish out of water, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had just been released or was about to be and they played most of that lp with a smattering of hits thrown in, the biggest ovation was when they played Iron Man, of course, but my favorite tune of the night was the wizard, never heard that one live before. The opening act that night was......Peter Frampton. Yeah, I know, what a pairing, but it was awesome. Frampton was good, real good, this was before his big live lp had made it to #1 and he played all those tunes from that lp, he and his band Frampton's Camel I think it was called, were excellent, stole the show. After that, I became a Dead Head and became obsesses with them, still am.
I think you have to go thru several bands before you are ready for the Dead, then it hits you like a ball and chain and you can't believe your ears. Hooked

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Reading the GD article in Uncut magazine I noticed
‘It’s safe to assume there’s a box set announcement for 2021 coming soon’ - DL
Of course my idea of soon may not be Dave’s

Talking of the Europe 72 50th anniversary he’s quoted as saying ‘There are still new and exciting ways to present that music … we’ve been looking at creative ways to get people engaged with that tour again, to make it more accessible in a format we think people are really going to want ‘
Something to look forward to in 2022

Edit It took three attempts to post this plain text message. It only worked when I removed a final exclamation mark.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 05:40

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..but clearly have ill intentions. I couldn't get a post to go either, after much trial and error, it was a dreaded hyphen or perhaps the back slash that did me in. Henceforth and forever back slashes and hyphens deemed as evil characters to never be used for civil discourse.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 06:09

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Yo, rockers!!!

Kcollins1974, check your pm................

Have had no problems with posting things with dots, dashes, question marks, or exclamation points! Probably cuz I paid the ransom................

However, I continue to struggle with semicolons..........

Rock on!!!

Doc
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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 06:17

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I’m still listening to every 1971 Grateful Dead show on the 50th anniversaries. And can combine the audio with the film. Audio first, then the film.

By the way, speaking of Doc. The other recently mentioned Dock or the Dock Ellis story is fantastic. Thank you Billy the Kid for bringing that to our attention.
Yesterday we had a thunderstorm with almost no rain and winds that must have gusted up to 40-50 mph. Lightning popping in all directions. So around late morning we should be seeing more smokes. I’ve done some wildland fire fighting and fire lookout work when I worked seasonal Forest Service trail work forever and a day. On a side note , no retirement benefits for seasonal federal employees. Maybe that’s been changed in the 20 years since I worked as a “green collar” man. Solo social (in)security is better than nothing. I own my home and am in excellent health. But it all goes to hell with age.
As the Merry Pranksters said;- “Nothing Lasts”.
After posting this by identifying parking meters I think of these two songs, “Lovely Rita” from Sargent Peppers- the Beatles.
And “Don’t follow leaders, watch your parkin’ meters” from Bringing it all Back Home” - Bob Dylan (he said that)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:31

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Strider, same here, dry thunderstorms and high winds, so as of yesterday have a fire 12 miles away!
As of last night, it’s only in National forest and only about 200 acres, but they haven’t given us any updates yet...
With the fuel and terrain between here and there, if the wind changes it could get interesting...
Could see it from bed last night. Pretty wild visuals, almost like a volcano erupting...
Think it was just the flames reflecting off the clouds, not the actual flames, but still, when you can see that from your bed....
Have had temps mostly in the high nineties since last week, which for here at elevation is pretty hot, of course no rain in sight...
And and to think it’s barely summer! Usually doesn’t get like this here until July...

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:35

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does this work ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ------------------ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how about a small limmnk

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 08:36

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cuff..... you have to wonder what idiot thought the word linnnnnnnkkkkkk was bad?

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Submitted by bluecrow on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 09:32

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yep, here in the west hot, dry, and what looks to be a long scary fire season. for several days seemed like an early attempt at a monsoonal pattern, lots of lightning notifications on lightning tracker. we even got 15 minutes of rain here in the "lowlands" after a wall of crazy wind and dust out in front of the cell. good luck and stay safe.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:00

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For the Mingus recommendation. I haven't picked up any "new" Mingus since the "Jazz In Detroit" 5-disc set a couple of years back. That set was great, but could have easily been 3 discs. No matter, I was tempted to get this new 'expanded' version, was waiting for feedback, which you provided. I will pick this up pronto.

Only 96 hours until "upgraded" Skull and Roses. I'm ready!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:12

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Take solace in the fact that the series is right where it should be. Fleury gave away game three and Lehner literally saved your ass last night.

Should be an exciting game 5.

Good luck.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 10:53

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Somethings off, it’s like the knights are turning into the AVs...
Haven’t watched enough to put my finger on it, but they don’t seem quite the high speed freight train that they were.
Habs been shuttin’ em down in the lanes etc and keeping the shots down just like the Kiniggits did to the AVs...
No worries though if they go back to the fortress and git er done they’ll be in the drivers seat!

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 12:08

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which volume is this? I see rhino has announced a deluxe edition coming next month,,, 3 lps 45 bucks.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 13:36

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Not sure about the vinyl edition but I received the 2cd a few days ago. I believe the original was just two long tracks from the jam session of the second set and that this new edition from Carnegie includes the first set which was 75 minutes long.

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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 22:01

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Thanks guy. I ordered both from Amazon,,, free shipping.

CD coming instantly,,, lp's are preorder and not released until next month.

I really don't need the vinyl, but Mingus is a giant in the jazz world and thought it be nice to have for down the road value.

We'll see :-)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 23:30

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Big tunics in two stores

I am looking for a T

High roller, thats what call me

The neon museum = cool

....I opened a bar for men with erectile dysfunction.
It was a total flop. Nobody came.
😁
Proudfoot. You should check out Area 15 while you're in Vegas.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 12:58

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Walking tbrough Planet Hollywood

"GK gear sold here"

One xxl with GK logo, no wording

Just over 30$ with tax

:)))

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:11

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To get that post below to go through.

It’s not even in violation of the new rules.
Can I say ‘rules’ here, or is that banned too?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:16

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I just got brainwashed by Vguy

Kraken is next season

"You could almost think
that youre postin double"

A couple of really good jokes...what are you a comedian in residency?

I think David Zaslav, CEO of Discovery, and an attorney, is trying to figure whether Rhino fits in with his future plans. I know Simon stated a few days back that he was watching the European Football Championship. Discovery owns pretty much all of Europe's sports broadcasting networks and now own's Warner who owns Rhino. He may hate GOGD. Still believe that is what is slowing official news. Shakedown Stream take me away...

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:46

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T-shirt not Jersey?

Still a great price for "official" shirt.

Edit: saw t-shirt ooops

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 16:46

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Doing some trail work today, a la Strider. Got bit in the lip by some type of insect. Now, my lip is swollen and I look terribly funny. I'm the guy I used to laugh at. Anyway. On the bright side, lots of Dead listening today: 10-21-83, 10-12-84, 4-22-78, 7-31-82- 7-3-88. How's that for a day of Dead listening? I hope the swelling goes down...

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 19:36

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He’s not playing bad, but I have no idea why Fleury started over Lehner. Bad Karma.

The way the GKs are playing, I also have no idea how they beat the AVs.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 06/22/2021 - 21:06

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....believe me I know.

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 02:08

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Badkamer. That is Dutch for Bathroom.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 06:18

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VGuy - A real back and forth series, but it’s do or die time now. I will definitely be checking out that next game. Same Bat Station, same Bat Time.

A shout out to Robert Hunter, who would have been 80 years young today. A great wordsmith, a Dylan Thomas for his times.

Fuckers starting to swell...no bueno!

Yes Vguy is our resident comedian, he’s just been on hiatus for the playoffs

I think it’s imperative that PF leaves Vegas ASAP. No fault of his own, but I think he’s brought some kind of bad Seahawks juju with him that is causing the unexplainable demise of the mighty Kiniggits....the flux capacitor must be demagnetized immediately, repeat, demagnetize the FC IMMEDIATELY!

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 07:39

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Yes, Happy Birthday, Robert Hunter! The Grateful Dead would not be anywhere near as fascinating without your contributions.

Joni Mitchell's album "Blue" turned 50 yesterday, and apparently there is a box set with new remasters (and for the first album, a re-mix) of her first four albums coming out in a week. Plus, for those Joni fans, the Archives Vol. 2 box is coming out this fall, containing demos and live tracks from the period covered by the first four albums.

For anyone who hasn't listened to Joni before . . . I envy you! Even if all you did was give "Blue" and "Court and Spark" a serious listen, you would have improved your musical life immensely. :)

Be kind, rewind.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 07:46

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Correction: The Grateful Dead could not have been who they became if it wasn't for Robert Hunter. He was the thought man, the wordsmith, who made them great. Without him? Nothing to catalyze around and nothing for the listeners to truly sink their teeth into, nothing to sing , future uncertain, at best.

Edit: I'm gettin' antsy, wanting to know whether the box announcement will be a pass or fail in my book.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 08:15

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I never saw Joni in concert, but in 2013 she was invited to speak at a New York Times Talks with host Jon Pareles, just prior to a 70th Tribute Concert being held for her by Herbie Hancock et al at Massey Hall. I couldn’t get tix for the musical part (house band had Bill Frisell in it, a favourite), but I got tix for the NY Times talk, held at a small concert hall at the University of Toronto. She appeared with drummer Brian Blade (who I saw a few years later play with Wayne Shorter - WOW!), and it was about a 90 minute talk, and she was quite fascinating. She spoke in depth of her career, how she played coffee houses a block or two away in the 60s, her breakout career in California, her love of jazz, and the art of Emily Carr. She is a fascinating individual, a good songwriter and a very good visual artist. It was a really enjoyable evening, and I got a lot out of it, quite different than a concert. Her health is bad now (she smokes incessantly), but I wish her well, and she was yet another color in the palette that is music.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 09:10

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He is the man.

I think it is own the documentary "From Anthem to Beauty" that Mr. Hunter talks about writing Ripple, To Lay Me Down, and Brokedown Palace in one day while in London with the fellas. I think he said 1970. So is this a on May 25, 1970 when the dead were getting ready to play the The Stand Lyceum in London? Of course this is the day after playing Newcastle-Under-Lyme or Hollywood Festival or Lower Finney Green Farm, Leycett.

Maybe Dogon could help with what the actual title of this venue and festival is. I assume it is just some minor dispute based on land allotment., or something to that effect.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 09:26

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My first two picks after Price are going to be Gallagher and Suzuki. They are not marquee names, but those guys are grinders who do the little things that win games.

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