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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 19, 2021 - 7:44am

#1371

JimInMD

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Sound Issues / DaP 38

There is really only one solution. It's a bit complicated.. so hang in there with me. This is what we all need to do.

1) Get out the credit card with the greatest limit.
2) Google, select and purchase the new Wall of Sound, Home Edition TM (C) R with this credit card. As soon as the purchase is made destroy this card.
3) DO NOT TELL your partner/significant other.
4) Go to the roughest bar in town and tell some raunchy mom jokes to the bouncer. Keep doing this until he pummels you.
5) Come home and tell your partner / significant other you were mugged and robbed. Tell them all they took was your credit card.
6) If your partner is suspicious file a police report.
7) Install the WOS Home Edition in your listening room while your partner is not home. If complaints arise later, amnesia from the head trauma is your response. "honey, I am having trouble remembering anything from that week.
8) Replay Dave's Picks 38 at high volume.

Your sound issues are now resolved. Happy listening.
May 19, 2021 - 7:10am

#1372

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

The levels are too high

I mentioned that a while ago, after others had already detected it with headphones.

I played the CDs twice on my stereo system are did not detect any sound issues.
Onkyo 6-disc CD changer
Cambridge Audio receiver
Onkyo subwoofer
Bose 301 speakers

I then imported to computer and made ALAC files for my music players and AAC files to play from a USB flash drive in the car.
When I played the imported AIFF files on the computer there was extensive distortion through the small external computer speakers.
The colored bars that show the sound levels (not volume) on the computer audio software were almost hitting red. Clearly too high, but don’t know if that is on the original recording or the result of mastering.
Recall that on 8-25-72 Norman boosted Phil’s bass beyond what was on the original recording.
Maybe he boosted the levels for this release.

I played the ALAC files with an iBasso DX120 music player connected to my Cambridge Audio receiver. Did not detect any distortion or other sound flaws.
Been playing the AAC files in the car this week and have not heard any issues so far (set 2 started just before getting to work today).

So, it definitely depends on your system whether you hear the issues.
Crappy computer speakers sound terrible.
Apparently a high end system like Oro’s reveals the sound problems too.
My midrange system sounds good as does the audio system in my car.
May 19, 2021 - 6:43am

#1373

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

sound quality

Upon several listens to these cd's, I concur, this release has a few abnormalities that don't take away from the overall enjoyment of listening to these discs, but they are noticeable and makes me wonder if it was the master tape or was it a mailed in mastering job?
This has also made me wonder, will the rest of Dave's sound like this? I love me some Jerry right up front, why I'm here, but there should be a better balance of all the players in a band, not just one or two.
Disappointing? yes, deal breaker? not sure yet, will have to wait and see, but if there is any more killer shows that they do want to release, lets hope that the folks who do the mastering of these ancient tapes does a little bit better job than this release.
On a separate note, I was privileged to receive a code for the Dead and Company presale going on today at 10 am. Funny, I did not receive a code last tour, not privileged I guess. The price for these tickets is outrageous. A vip guaranteed reserve seat is over 250.00$. That's for one ticket.
It was fun getting excited like the old days, yahoo, the dead to tour, get your head together, get some tickets, get excited, get ready.....then I realized that those days are over for me. I can go see Billy strings, get a great hotel room, then go to the hot air balloon festival and get to ride on a hot air balloon, all for the same amount of cash. Kinda seems like a no brainer here, twice as much fun for the same dollars.
I realize that Bobby, Mickey and Billy are getting up there and there won't be too many more tours for them, and I would love to revisit these guys one more time.
The last time I tried to get tickets and got them, the show was cancelled due to Mayer's appendicitis. I don't want to jinx it so I will pass on this tour, besides, it's just too soon for me to be out there with all those vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Too all those who decide to go, enjoy.
May 19, 2021 - 6:15am

#1374

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Dreading

I ultimately reached the conclusion that part of the issue is how people are listening. I do not listen on headphones, computer speakers or use any type of equalizer. So far I have not listened in the car. I did try using Dolby on one of our stereo systems, which reduced the noise to a certain extent, but not entirely.
May 18, 2021 - 9:50pm

#1375

dreading

Joined:
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That's a fact

I've been in the record business all my life and agree with AJS. There is almost no way an audio anomaly like what was described could occur on some discs and not others for Dave's Picks. These discs are pressed ùfrom the same master. There would need to be two different master mixes for a subset of CDs to contain an anomaly. I would say the player could be a factor, but Obo ruled that out already. I assume like Jim said we are not counting Bertha because it is uneven for obvious reasons. I hear a decent sounding 1973 show here. The master tapes sound better better than Pacific Northwest but not as good as DaP 5. I don't hear many audio issues at all. I would like to hear what Obo and AJS are disliking. I whipped out the Bose headphones and all I hear is Jerry "shredding". What a night he is having. Weir too. Early on somebody said Keith was gone and that is true. Every once in a while I will hear a section that sounds like a tunnel for 5 or 10 seconds, but they are few and far between. Or Weir will just stop playing like in China Cat Sunflower but he needs to rest sometimes. He played China Cat, HCS, EOTW and Bird Song all in one night ;-)
May 18, 2021 - 8:24pm

#1376

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Sound

The chances are virtually nil that some defect would have only affected such a small number of discs. Furthermore, it only occurs on the 9/8 show, not 9/7. I am very surprised as well that others are not hearing it.
May 18, 2021 - 8:16pm

#1377

Dark-Star

Joined:
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Oroborous

I don't hear it, which isn't saying much. I rip everything to my hard drive as WAV files and run them through an equalizer with a bunch of sound options. "Concert Hall" is perfect for these old Dead tapes, plus I push up the four EQ sliders all the way to the right about halfway.

That being said Oborious, this sentence got my attention. You say:

I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.

This phenomena sounds like something Norman may have done in production. It sounds like a feature I have that prevents clipping at high volume. I am a fan of good sound but no engineer so I will copy the internet definition, which you probably know:

Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating.

When I play stuff too loud this feature cuts back on only the parts that are causing the clipping. It is obvious to the ear when this feature on my system gets activated. It sounds exactly like your description where you say 'several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time.'

My theory is that the master tapes Jeff Norman worked with had some hot spots so he used a feature like what I have on my equalizer to "even out" all the levels as he input the music from the master tapes on to a digital storage.

I am not sure why I don't hear it but I guess my EQ is dressing it up. If I listen to the CD with no EQ it sounds like the treble needs to get turned up all the way. Even then it doesn't sound even close to the quality of the EQ and Concert Hall enhancement. It makes me curious if a lot of people out there listen straight off the CD with nothing 'extra' to improve the sound.

On a different note I laughed heartily at the quacking duck interview. Well done whoever made that up. It sounds like something Jerry would say.

And last, I listened to the Dark Star / Morning Dew that KF mentioned on 5/18/72. I don't know how I overlooked that one but it is much better than I remembered. Somehow the Europe 72 Dark Stars never stuck with me. Probably because I rarely play those shows. Only because I want them to be special every time.
May 18, 2021 - 7:31pm

#1378

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: That Mike

Great joke.. made my day.
I wholeheartedly agree.

Yes.. the sound on 38 is a bit wobbly in the beginning. But isn't that Grateful Dead standard time? It sounds ok by the time they get warmed up.
May 18, 2021 - 6:28pm

#1379

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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The Munich Invasion 5/18/72

Next up on the E72 anniversary list. What at a great show. And it's Dark Star => Morning Dew night.
I'm going to go out on limb here and say it's the first time they did this combo. This is one of my favorite shows from the tour. Jerry's guitar is louder than usual (and louder is always better). Crunchy guitars are tight!

Sugar Magnolia really hits a groove, and Billy has this absolutely ridiculous drum fill at the....drum fill part; I've never heard him play it quite like this - it's like gets a running headstart. Great version despite a classic Bobby lyric miss early on (proof of the weed).

Jack Straw is great. This is maybe the second one where Jerry sings the Watchman and Tulsa verses, and Bobby forgets it's not his line anymore - so they both jump the Watchman - not a fair fight at all.

And some great banter after Black-Throated Wind. Jerry always makes me laugh up there. He was the king of one-liners:

Girl Fan (to Jerry): Lovelight!

Jerry: Turn on YOUR Lovelight baby.

Girl Fan: You Turn on yours first.

Jerry: Oh no, after you...
May 18, 2021 - 5:06pm

#1380

alvarhanso

Joined:
January 16, 2014

Sound quality on 38

I was surprised this is the first real discussion about it. I got my copies a week ago, and have made it through the Bonus and Bird Song and Playing as I ripped and converted and had 9/7 first. Also, made it up to Weather Report Suite on the release. The sound struck me as incredibly washy, and while it's great to hear Keith and Bob much more than usual (some releases you wonder if Keith played on much at all from his presence on the tapes, but these are great for Keith fans!), so I just balance that with the cymbal heavy mix. Maybe they were trying new mic placements for the drums. Not Kidd Candelario's best tape by any stretch. He's usually top notch, though. Jai Alai Fronton last year is a phenomenal Kidd tape. That may be my favorite Wall of Sound release for sound quality.

Also, I'm surprised, or have missed, no reference to the Bonus Eyes ending not with its Slipknotish jam, but ending with a Here Comes Sunshine jam. A fantastic Eyes! Phil with a different start to his solo, and a different feel, maybe reacting to the Wolf darting around? So far enjoying the release and bearing with the sound.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Gary...

.... I would never kid about a Partridge family offer!!

How can you NOT have their greatest hits in your collection. Wasn't available for years,,,, I had the rope around the beam ready to check out, when GOD himself informed me the album was dropping and I should wait. Well I did and was sonically rewarded, I woke up in love that morning, so come get happy. Nirvana awaits!!

Daverock...

.. You cut me to the quick when you said you sold your albums :-(

That has to hurt to this day. I regret I broke my little yellow kids 78's when I was about 7 ( I had outgrown them)

But thankfully I have EVERYTHING else I ever bought. Love my K-Tel records :-)

About the Partridge Family...

Their inspiration were the very talented family band and sunshine popsters, The Cowsills.
Check out The Rain, The Park and Other Things, some nice ear cotton-candy.

Oh cousin...

I have the cowsills greatest hits also. Apparently one of the few albums in my wife's house growing up,,,, so I got it for "her". It's actually the Cowsills IN Concert!!! Why would you NOT want them LIVE!!!

Good Vibrations -> Sunshine of Your Love -> Paperback Writer -> Reach Out, I'll be There!!!

What a suite of songs!!!

And this week's winner for phrase-ology:

"Screwed the pooch..."

Double bonus points as this comment referred to a Who album.

"Screwed the pooch" versus "over-egged the pudding"! Clash of the titans....

Pooch vs. Pudding

I heard pooch long before pudding, so I say pudding wins for innovation, and a less disturbing image.

Going through boxes of stuff

Found my old copy of Guitar player magazine with Jerry on the cover from 1978 or 79. I used the cover for decor and is now somewhere.

I remember when that arrived at our home in wisconsin. Jerry definitely had charisma...I had heard of the GD peripherally and on radio and SNL...I wanted to read that article (and did of course).

Pudding

Fo sho!
Pops used to say shit like “screw the pooch” all the time, but eggin’ the pudding...brilliant!
Love new ones....

Disturbing images, thinking Randy Marsh in China with Mickey...

PF, Sweeet, I have that Guitar player mag, plus a few others from back then. Unfortunately don’t have the one with Phil from a year or 2 before. I should re-read that...

Good Gawd Almighty, Proudfoot

I must have a defense mechanism that allows me to enjoy a twisted phrase, but without actually VISUALIZING it.

So, thanks for the visual on "screw the pooch." They were just WORDS until you chimed in............

That said, I do live in the West, where men are men and, so it's said, the sheep run scared.

Okay, time for Dave's video on DP # 39! Once again I've inadvertently led the race to the bottom. Oh wait, there's another phrase that I never thought through!

Nitecat

Yeah on the Bonus Disk to the "All the years combine" dvd box, on the second grouping is Justin Kreutzmann documentary from 1992 titled "Backstage Pass." The first segment or chapter is a nice Pig Hard to Handle, then the second chapter is a Drums segment with Billy and Mickey alone in a studio. They did the custom drums for this documentary, so you will hear at first like beads hitting each other and then Mickey and Billy hitting these two long vertical drums and it is off and running. Lots of grate footage through out Backstage Pass. But during this drums you will see the train, will not say more though, as it is intense. It also has these Dead motif walking puppets that are a trip. Maybe someone can pinpoint where this footage is from. Hope that helps, sorry for the delay.

A Family Bus

and "come on, get happy!"

I think Bear helped with their sound system.

Last 5

1 Best of Muddy Waters, 2. Workingman 's Dead expanded version, 3. Charlie Musslewhite, Louisiana Fog, 4. Anthem of the Sun expanded version, 5 Best of Little Walter. Last 5 beers.. Plin y the Elder. x 5.

Live at Leeds

Listening right now

When you need a palette cleanser, L@L is a good one.

Last 5/Not Ashamed(of anything!!)

Last 5: CSNY-Deja Vu box-disc 3
CSNY-Deja Vu box-disc 2
Lemon Pipers-Best Of
Cream-Royal Albert Hall-disc 2
Yes-Close To The Edge-Steven Wilson mix

Dennis, you continue to be my brother from another mother. I have Partridge Family Best Of, a 2-disc Cowsills, one of which is Best Of. Not to mention ABBA’s Greatest Hits, 5th Dimension-Gold, and at least a dozen more that most people wouldn’t admit to owning, much less enjoying.
Music is the Best!!

Enjoying both

I didn't need another copy of Skullf#@% but I'm interested for the 7/2 tracks. I agree that Pigpen on organ was exactly what the Dead needed in 1971-1972. Sure he may have hit a bad note now and then, but they all did. Pigpen had a great presence of mind to play exactly when needed.

Holding The Poison Down

"And now for something completely different..."

- Monty Python

For years now I've been writing the Foo Fighters off as populist soccer mom rock, and Dave Grohl as an over exposed puppy dog. I cannot believe how much I love the new record, Medicine At Midnight.

Very stylistically diverse and just a beautiful, fun, warm rock record. Amazing. I could not gush more.

And now back to your regularly scheaduled programming...

Foo Fighters

My wife used to watch top 20 video countdown

FF "LEARNIN TO WALK AGAIN!!!"

and

"THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST!!!"

no hate or disrespect

Just facts

I was lucky enough to see Nirvana in '92

Dave Grohl

Not a huge fan of his music, but he is a cool dude. Sound City is an outstanding documentary.

Ella

Just scored a Ella Fitzgerald collection (the complete songbook series)

Talk about Ella came up last night at work and came home to check my Ella stuff. I have several of the "song books" collections. Never knew the was a "complete" box set. Guess it out of print. Amazon had big dollar pricing. Found a copy on a site called Mercari,,,, 83 bucks!!! 16 cd box!

From wiki -

They are considered a cornerstone of 20th century recorded popular music, and as a whole, represent some of the finest interpretations of the greater part of the musical canon known as the Great American Songbook.

The New York Times columnist Frank Rich was moved to write a few days after Fitzgerald's death that in the Song Book series, she "performed a cultural transaction as extraordinary as Elvis's contemporaneous integration of white and African-American soul."

Here was a black woman popularizing urban songs often written by immigrant Jews to a national audience of predominantly white Christians. As Ira Gershwin said, in the line quoted in every obituary: "I never knew how good our songs were until I heard Ella Fitzgerald sing them." Most of the rest of us didn't know, either. By the time she had gone through the entire canon, songs that had been pigeonholed as show tunes or jazz novelties or faded relics of Tin Pan Alley had become American classical music, the property and pride of everyone."[3]

Sorry for the non sequitur,,, I just had to share my good fortune.

Oh,,,,, don't tell the wife!!

Mr Ones & the 5th

HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE 5th DIMENSION!!!

Here inside my paper cup we listen while on Stone Soul Picnics!

...Reading this thread...

I can't help but remember Mr. Ones catch phrase, Music is the Best.

There's always something going on around here and certainly not restricted to the Grateful Dead.

Ella, Ella, Ella

Flashback to ~1975... I'm 17... We get tickets for Ella Fitzgerald with the Count Basie Orchestra (the Count was conducting, I believe) and we head to the Westchester Premier Theater (now closed).

Picture 4-5 teenagers with long hair, flannel shirts and jeans, probably stinking of pot, possibly with "white walls" around our nostrils (we got into blow that year), entering the theater, where everyone was dressed in their New York City best. Just after the show began. The ushers wouldn't seat us in our ticketed seats down front -- understandable now, but not then. But they seated us somewhere. Ella and the band played a remarkable set and Phil Woods -- one of the greatest clarinetists ever -- played a solo that I still remember absolutely devastated us. Then the band took requests. The process was amazing! A well-heeled jazz fan in the audience would yell out a tune. The Count would confer with his band. Always, a player would say something like, 'Oh yeah, that's a bouncy thing in G#m" and band heads would nod in agreement, Ella would say yay or nay on her knowing the lyrics -- or she'd scat/fake 'em -- and off they'd go. So polished, you wouldn't know they'd never played it before. During intermission, we did get seated in our seventh row center ticketed seats, standing out like a pocket of hoodlums in a coiffed crowd. Amazing night.

We caught all kinds of uptown jazz and swing acts in those days because my buddy's dad had been a drummer for the fabled Savoy record label in Neward, NJ, and when he heard us listening to the Band of Gypsys (Hendrix of course), he went to his record collection, pulled out 15 LPs, handed them over and said, 'Okay, if you're gonna listen to Hendrix and the Dead etc., you also have to learn where everything came from. Dig this!' And he thrust the well-played platters into my hands. That opened me up to the music of the 1940s, '50s and early '60s. Of course, over the years, I pushed back to the '30s and '20s -- Robert Johnson and Co., Lonnie Johnson, etc., which was a legacy of my friend's dad lifting the veil on popular music.

So, I may be HF, but I got schooled by that LP collection and dozens of killer shows in NYC while I lived in the area. Good times. Big ears. Ask about our Oscar Petersen 'experience' sometime.

That is all...

5th Dimension - Summer of Soul

The 5th Dimension are figured prominently in the Summer of Soul documentary on Hulu. Good flick. Seeing Mavis Staples singing with Mahalia Jackson may not make you a believer, but it will sure make you happy.

Would love to meet Mavis someday. Woman has the power of a thousand suns.

"and with a voice like Ella's ringing out

there's no way the band could lose"

Wife had the good fortune to hear EF at a jazz camp back a few decades

Mighty Mavis

Caught her with Amy Helm and another great singer at Chautauqua in Boulder a few years back. Then again opening for Dylan, when she promised to literally kick the ass of the Mango Mussolini -- cracked up the crowd. Boy, think of the Pay-for-View revenue from that televised event..............

Bad sign: two posts in a row

But I'll spin DP 36 again this week, as I feel an announcement coming on 39 -- perhaps this Friday, if the pattern holds?

Huh, I never used to be like this -- impatient for a release, when there's more to life than DPs...

Okay, who the f*** am I kidding??

DaP 39

I can't believe I am saying this.. but it does look like we will get an update on 39 before the box set reveal.

The third release of the year can be the real wildcard of the subscription. I am guessing 82 or 91, but would be stoked with a 69 dropped into this years lineup. In any case.. it seems it will compete with the box set reveal to an extent.

In other words.. Dave, if you're listening, we need another release.

Seeing is believing

It'll be a bit of a shock to log on here and see news of an upcoming release.

GarciaLive 1.5?

I've been grooving to a lot of JGB lately (GL 16 is very nice), and have been wishing for some JGB releases from the early 80s. I looked into some good bootlegs online, then came across old news about how 6/26/81 was "released" officially many years ago, but only as a download, only for one week, and perhaps only as an incentive to purchase a t-shirt? No wonder I didn't get it, and I get everything.

Does anyone have the official download? And are you willing to share, please? If it were available for sale then I wouldn't ask.

Thanks!

Hold onto your wallets, boys

Okay, so now the conventional wisdom is that DP 39 gets announced and, three weeks later, arrives, meaninig a box set announcement in the dog days of August?

Either that pushes the box news to post-Labor Day -- hey, I'm in no hurry to get there at this point, summer in the Rockies is so freakin' short -- or the TPTB simply ignore all rules of retail and count on the news spreading like wildfire, even if some folks have disappeared into the mountains in August...

Then there's the sense I got that beyond the DP series and the box, there's one other release getting teed up.

So, the mystery is probably not that mysterious: why no news, when last year the '76 box came somewhat early? I'm thinking that either the tapes, the box design or other production issue has hit a glitch and they're not announcing until and unless the path to a sales or preorder date is smoothed out.

What's the other release? I'd love to think it's an "early" Wake of the Flood -- a favorite of mine as I heard so much of it in concert prior to the LP's release. But here are a couple other thoughts: they skipped anything to do with the 50th of Live/Dead/Fillmore West because they've done the limited edition as well as a nice compilation for losers like me (who convinced myself at the time of release that I "didn't have the money"... Idiot!!) The coupling of WD and AB with '71 shows was simply that they have few '70 shows to spare and had already mixed the Capitol '71 run so those shows were handy. But doing a 50th of Skull & Roses, coupled with only a single disc of 7-2-71, threw my theories a curveball. I can't see anything clearly in this cloudy crystal ball. What if they release a DVD of one of the Euro '72 shows next year and WotF in 2023?? Just trying to think outside the black hole...

They're obviously not going to wait until 2039 to release a 50th Built to Last, as Dave clearly stated, so when does the acceleration begin? They've surely got enough '73 left in the can to do a full show with WotF, but that year's shows were nearly always 3 discs' worth. Except, um, the Watkins Glen soundcheck....(Yet the Compendium lists the soundcheck at 90 minutes, which would require a 10-minute trim job. Ugh.)

Okay, obviously running out of original ideas and now just circling back to my usual 2020-2021 harangue over a '72 box and a '73 WotF w/ Watkins bonus "idea." Just rambling now........

I swear I'll stop now...

After this: so I went back to Dave's seaside chat from 23 Oct 2020 and, skipping over "this version is amazing" and "you'll love the way the band does blah blah blah" and Dave says "we're doing preliminary work on the 2021 box, which we'll talk more about in a few months, I'm sure..."

Well, that clears up .......... NOTHING!

Since it looks like MUATM wont happen this year...

I plan to at long last experience a VFTV show on August 1

7 8 90? Nah.
6 16 90? Maybe.
6 14 91? Could easily be.
87? Uhhh....
GD movie? Nuh.
12 31 78? Hey.....

Hey! I have a copy of Essen 81!

THAT ONE!

I remember hearing/watching 6 14 91 and seeing Jerry morph into a lion.

That was cool.

The late Top Petty said it best....

...."the waiting is the hardest part."

Right There With You Proudfoot

We can have the party without them. Perhaps they will toss us a Shakedown Stream for good measure.

I love a good sense of humor.. I was reading this discovery of Neanderthal's ability to create art from deer bones 51,000 years ago in a cave in Germany, "the Unicorn Cave" to be exact.. (if I could attach the lenk to the article I would).. and at the article ended with the following line:

"The Neanderthal who turned a deer bone into art could not be reached for comment."

I know the box announcement

Jerryz birthday or the friday before

dead head brewer and JGB

check pm, hit me with a email

S&R 50th

cd and propeller vinyl came today. The prop effect was neat, should look good spinning. Unlike the picture on the site that made it look white, it was clear vinyl with black prop.

I have faith....

....that I won't be shamed for sharing the news that Britney Spears is retiring from recording.
Guilty pleasure. I know I've posted my appreciation for here before. I like beats. Her dad is a Pos.
Anywho. Also itching for a box set. Still waiting. I'm still waiting.
It's going to be Fall 72.

Dennis

I want to thank you for all the great music I have been able to download from you. Thanks so very much for sharing your stash. If I had the world to give.......

Vguy and Britney

Not a fan or non fan, but I love the lyrics to "Piece of Me". What a great song for the double entendre. I think I'd bet a dollar a doughnut she didn't write it, but the truth of the lyrics is astounding!

Sometimes it seems like......

....... there's just TOO much music available in the world!

I have a very sprawling collection of music and can still be caught off guard.

Buddy showed up yesterday and asked if I ever heard Dr. Lonnie Smith. I never had AND I had none in the collection.

Quick youtube check showed I needed some of this guy. ( I like the cover of Sunshine Superman with Iggy Pop)

Anyone got a nice collection they like to share,,, maybe I can offer some Jimmy Smith in return?

Dennis/Dr. Lonnie

How right you are. There is so much music that my wife thinks that I have ENOUGH music right now. I keep telling her that's not possible, but she does not understand. A lot of people confuse Dr. Lonnie Smith with Lonnie Liston Smith. Easy to do because they both play the organ, but in fact, 2 different people. I have a bunch of Lonnie Liston Smith, but the only Dr. Lonnie Smith I have is called Afrodesia. I'd be happy to send you a burn copy, if you want to PM me. Music just might break up this ole marriage O'mine!!

Keep listening, because Music is the Best!!

Box Announcement

I'm guessing there is a very real possibility that Garcia's family is up to their old tricks and started another legal battle. The second box from 2020 never came, now we're over a year out since the last one. Reminds me of 2007, we got one release that year, Spirit of 76. Later we found out it was because Koons had gone to court to take a bigger cut. Not sayin', just sayin'.

I certainly hope it's not a legal issue

The GD organization and its beneficiaries are...not destitute. Mo' money?

Hopefully the delay is just a "hey man, I had to make sure it was 'just exactly perfect'" thing

6 30 74

Very nice

Has anyone here attended a show with Seastones? 1974, that is.

Seastones.....

If you know the animated series BoJack Horseman

(humans and animals/insects/etc. coexist in a society where the animals have human bodies but animal/insect heads...just go with it...)

In an episode last night, a stagehand with a goat's head is wearing a goat skull steal your face Tshirt that reads "Goatful Dead"

Seastones live

Guilty as charged. I saw Seastones performed at Ally Pally in London, September 1974. They played three nights and I think Seastones was performed at the second and last shows. I have no idea which of those two nights was graced with my presence but I did witness Ned and Phil in action between sets. I was totally unimpressed by their electronic noodling. A compilation of the three shows was released as Dick's Picks Volume Seven. I have previously documented my subsequent efforts to get home after the show on here so I won't return to that now. I blame the space cakes.

Thank you simonrob, for your honesty

I was on the road in '74 and had to leave San Francisco in the 2nd week of Sept '74 to get home for school. So I missed Seatones shows and, yes, the "last 5 nights." So close, but no cigar. And, based on the tapes I've heard, I did not miss out when it came to Seastones. The '74 version of "Eyes"? Yes. But not Seastones.

Perhaps an acquired taste, like Ouzo? (Got a story there.....)