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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 18, 2021 - 3:24pm

#1381

KeithFan2112

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So Odd

Oroborous, I found exactly what you're describing to be what I hear on the 1973 PNW shows. The 1974 shows are fine; it's just 1973. Let me preface this by saying this is by no means any reason not to get the box set - it's an awesome triple dose of '73, Dark Star a la mode, plus the three 1974 shows that sound better than any 1974 show I've heard.

So what I hear on those 73 shows sounds like what you're describing. Unevenness. Artifacts. Loud symbols. Dropouts. Hiss. Certainly not throughout the entire three shows, but enough to get on the radar of someone who listens to shows with headphones most of the time. And the odd thing is that I don't think anyone else took this from the 1973 revordings on PNW.

I didn't catch this on Dave's Picks 38, except for the warm-up tune Bertha, which I'm good with, because it's the first song. I listen to Dave's Picks 38 about half a dozen times and then put it down for the last week. I'm putting it back on to see if I hear anything differently. Where are some places that you hear it in the show? Also I'm curious if Playing in the Band and Birdsong are doing it?

Edit - just listened to a few tracks from Pacific Northwest 73 in the car on the way to get some pizza and it's not nearly as noticeable on regular speakers. DaP 38 sounds better still on the couple of tracks I had time to compare a little bit of. Not that I want to hear anything bad on Dave's Picks 38, but I would be willing to take a listen to whatever tracks you're hearing things on.
May 18, 2021 - 3:07pm

#1382

That Mike

Joined:
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A Music Archivist Walks Into A Bar…

Dave L walks into a bar, and has a seat at the front. “I’ll have a beer, bartender”
The bartender replies “What!? No 2021 Box Set!?”

Put down the fishing pole, DL, and release that Box!!
May 18, 2021 - 11:26am

#1383

proudfoot

Joined:
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box box box PLEASE

#38 sound is wobbly here and there

I just go with it....but it is uneven, fo' sho'
May 18, 2021 - 10:43am

#1384

billy the kid

Joined:
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53 years ago today..........

The Dead played at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, along with Big Brother and the Jefferson Airplane. The Dead played a great version of Alligator , hopefully they have a tape of this in the vault and will release it as part of a 1968 box set. My brothers friend went to this show.
May 18, 2021 - 10:18am

#1385

Oroborous

Joined:
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RE: DV

In some places it’s noticeable enough most people should be able to tell with at least a moderate volume, and being top notch GOGD I’m sure many have cranked it lol. It’s prevalent enough I’m guessing you’d have noticed it even with just a casual listen. I only hope I don’t ruin this for others who haven’t heard it, but go looking for it and then can’t not hear it LOL.
But I’m thinking it has to be a small sample problem, though I find it hard to believe only 3 of us have had it?

EDIT: I hear ya 1st SHOW, and truth be told there are many shows I wouldn’t care so much, but these shows, though I don’t agree with best of year hyperbole, are so up my wheelhouse, and otherwise sound so good, that it just bums me out. But hey, just like most dead “worts and all” ; )
PS: love that if you don’t mind quote!

DBL EDIT: wonder if they used any compression/limiting on the original tape feed? If said device was not set well it might explain...it’s puzzling that they’d use such a tape? Perhaps they felt it the benefit out weighed the negative and figured most folks wouldn’t notice? Interesting what ever the case.
May 18, 2021 - 10:17am

#1386

1stshow70878

Joined:
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I'm glad you brought that back up Oro

I recently got a new amp in my system and am hearing details like never before. You have covered all the sonic equipment possibilities thoroughly so I have to go with operator error on the original recording that could not be Normanized away. Maybe the sound quality is why this took so long to get released. It doesn't seem as bad on the 9/7 material. Worth putting up with for sure but it kind of spoils playing it really loud. The old church of the IDM. (It Don't Matter) From ancient Denver AM radio with Charley & Barney in the morning. They had their own religion: "If you don't mind, then it don't matter". The 9/7 second set is worth it with that amazing Eyes jam.
Cheers!
May 18, 2021 - 10:11am

#1387

DeadVikes

Joined:
October 26, 2016

Oroborous

Wait, we are supposed to listen to these releases??

I just got my copy last week and have been able to listen to it once. I think it is a great release. Sound quality is not as good as say Dave's #21 or #5, but still good. I have a good old wired system in my basement that I am sure it is nothing like yours, but it is still good. Anyway, I will have to put this one again and try to see if I hear what you are talking about. Typically if there are issues with the recording I usually pick it up on the first listen. I didn't on this one. Is it perfect, no, but like I said I still think it sounds really good and the performance is stellar.
May 18, 2021 - 9:55am

#1388

Oroborous

Joined:
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Schizophrenic 38 (production issues?)

On one hand, most of the music on here (and Bonus) is awesome! Even the complicated new stuff is hot...
On the other hand, I can’t believe Angry Jack Straw, DCVMT, and I are the only ones having issues or hearing???, not even sure what the hell it is?.....
I’ve purposely held off on posting about this until I spent significant time on this first...
I’ve tried the actual discs in different players, server playing on several different systems,... same weird results?
Worst part is not being able to figure out what it is?...
The overall levels are not too hot, peaks set at -1 dB which is how I like it; no need to chance over saturation by going 0 db (that’s what a volume control is for...). So don’t think the mastering level is too hot...
My guess is something in processing/mastering? Perhaps a synchronicity issue between processors?
Perhaps some hard compression/limiting. I’ve noticed the phenomena/artifact on several instruments and vocals, usually only noticeable when that source is loud and/or with sharp attack...but it’s never like everything is distorting all at the same time which would lean towards some kind of overall level problem. It’s only on individual sources at mostly individual instances, though there times when more then one source distorts...
Don’t think it’s original tape over saturation because it would be highly unlikely that that would of gone unnoticed by recordist and wouldn’t have been so prevalent on so many different sources. Meaning you might have one guy who’s level is too hot because he turned up extra and the recordist didn’t catch it and adjust right away, but I’ve never heard a tape with basically, potentially, all the sources distorting like this.
It’s often very subtle, other times it’s not. Haven’t noticed it as much on the bonus disc. Seems to start a little as LIG picks up volume, only the louder parts of Stella, but from then on its more prevalent.
38 itself is pretty much riddled with these distortion artifacts.
Complicating things are other variables like Bob using some kind of distortion peddle, which I’ve never heard from him this early on? Kieth occasionally has some noisy stuff kick in/out? Cymbals often trigger it, but everything, including occasionally vocals too.
Agree with All that you can really hear and appreciate Bobs playing on all of this, in fact I liked the overall mix. I can see why this show was regarded by DL so highly, which makes this ?? all the more annoying.
Oh, and I don’t think it’s my gear as all my previous stuff still sounds the same, so it’s something going on with the production of this release.
Don’t know any of the specifics about plangent, but wouldn’t think that processing would alter volume peaks like this?
My guess is that perhaps there were signal to noise issues on the original tape, or inconsistent levels between instruments (one significantly loader than another), where some compression was used to bring the overall level up, which then caused certain, individual sources to occasionally, noticeably, distort due to hard compression, but that would usually be more quick, arrack only phenomena.
And you wouldn’t think that pros of this caliber, with the gear they have access to would do such a thing?
I’m just desperate to figure out what the hell is going on since it’s driving me nuts and ruining what would otherwise be a long term, go to release, maddening! It’s no secret I’m a fall/winter 73 nut, so this of all releases being almost unlistenable is Murphy on 11!
I’ve listened to this at least a dozen times already trying to just enjoy the awesome shows/music, but this phenomena keeps rearing its ugly head, uggggggg!
It really freaked me out the first virgin spin as I was really psyched for some killer fall 73 so prepped accordingly, including firing up the big boy system extra loud and putting on the ole proverbial seat belt. So when it started to become unmistakable it really freaked me out! Now it’s just an unfortunate, un-ignorable annoyance.
But mostly, this is deeply disappointing that such a great show, from one of the best eras is basically unlistenable.
This is so frustrating too, as I’m sure many of you are scratching your heads wondering what the hell im taliking about lol. But at least 2 others; Angry Jack, and DCVT have experienced the same thing, so it’s not just me.

The question then; is this a product defect, if so, is it comprehensive or just a small sample, and thus should we be asking for replacements?
I’m guessing unfortunately/fortunately it’s a small sample problem or this board would be filled with displeasure!
Possibly many folks listening on “normal” modest gear, at lower volumes, with normal ears might not notice much of it, but not everyone! I have to believe if this was a comprehensive problem more folks would be noticing it?
So fortunately it’s probably not a problem for most, and unfortunately, because it’s sometimes hard for just a few to get acknowledgment of such a unusual idiosyncrasy.
Ugggggg, my brain hurts from this release pulling me in two such diverse directions!
Luckily I have several hundred other shows to listen too ; )
Would love to hear if anyone else out there is experiencing this same problem?
May 18, 2021 - 8:53am

#1389

annalee10

Joined:
August 14, 2013

My Dave’s 38

Got my replacement Daves 38, big thanks to MaryE and Doc Rhino for taking care of me.....Have listened to it all three times and this is an AWESOME release. One of the best Birdsongs ever, can’t stop playing it. Great first version of WRS and Let it Grow. The bonus disc is fantastic, been listening to that eyes almost every night for the last week, killer version.
I agree with the calls foe a fall 72 box or the Ark.....please Dave😊
May 18, 2021 - 7:55am

#1390

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Tuscaloosa '77 (and Atlanta too)

Fun story about the duck "calls". Never even noticed or heard about it. To me what is famous about the show is Bobby's intro to Jack-a-Roe. Very inventive and the kind of stuff Jerry was probably watching and listening closely to and would weave into the fills. Not sure I even caught the significance of it until Phil brought it up in the "Phil Zone" CD.
Latvala! And cheers!
EDIT: Listening to Fox Theatre Atlanta 5-18-77 now and blown away by The Other One > Brokedown. Source is a tape recorded in 1994 from the GD Hour radio show. David Gans must have been using DAT direct from the vault source as the sound is amazing for a TDK DS-X100 tape. (recorded in Dolby C, but I don't often use the Dolby on replay as it dulls the treble too much) Unfortunately David Gans was not allowed to offer whole shows back then as I recall.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Gary...

.... I would never kid about a Partridge family offer!!

How can you NOT have their greatest hits in your collection. Wasn't available for years,,,, I had the rope around the beam ready to check out, when GOD himself informed me the album was dropping and I should wait. Well I did and was sonically rewarded, I woke up in love that morning, so come get happy. Nirvana awaits!!

Daverock...

.. You cut me to the quick when you said you sold your albums :-(

That has to hurt to this day. I regret I broke my little yellow kids 78's when I was about 7 ( I had outgrown them)

But thankfully I have EVERYTHING else I ever bought. Love my K-Tel records :-)

About the Partridge Family...

Their inspiration were the very talented family band and sunshine popsters, The Cowsills.
Check out The Rain, The Park and Other Things, some nice ear cotton-candy.

Oh cousin...

I have the cowsills greatest hits also. Apparently one of the few albums in my wife's house growing up,,,, so I got it for "her". It's actually the Cowsills IN Concert!!! Why would you NOT want them LIVE!!!

Good Vibrations -> Sunshine of Your Love -> Paperback Writer -> Reach Out, I'll be There!!!

What a suite of songs!!!

And this week's winner for phrase-ology:

"Screwed the pooch..."

Double bonus points as this comment referred to a Who album.

"Screwed the pooch" versus "over-egged the pudding"! Clash of the titans....

Pooch vs. Pudding

I heard pooch long before pudding, so I say pudding wins for innovation, and a less disturbing image.

Going through boxes of stuff

Found my old copy of Guitar player magazine with Jerry on the cover from 1978 or 79. I used the cover for decor and is now somewhere.

I remember when that arrived at our home in wisconsin. Jerry definitely had charisma...I had heard of the GD peripherally and on radio and SNL...I wanted to read that article (and did of course).

Pudding

Fo sho!
Pops used to say shit like “screw the pooch” all the time, but eggin’ the pudding...brilliant!
Love new ones....

Disturbing images, thinking Randy Marsh in China with Mickey...

PF, Sweeet, I have that Guitar player mag, plus a few others from back then. Unfortunately don’t have the one with Phil from a year or 2 before. I should re-read that...

Good Gawd Almighty, Proudfoot

I must have a defense mechanism that allows me to enjoy a twisted phrase, but without actually VISUALIZING it.

So, thanks for the visual on "screw the pooch." They were just WORDS until you chimed in............

That said, I do live in the West, where men are men and, so it's said, the sheep run scared.

Okay, time for Dave's video on DP # 39! Once again I've inadvertently led the race to the bottom. Oh wait, there's another phrase that I never thought through!

Nitecat

Yeah on the Bonus Disk to the "All the years combine" dvd box, on the second grouping is Justin Kreutzmann documentary from 1992 titled "Backstage Pass." The first segment or chapter is a nice Pig Hard to Handle, then the second chapter is a Drums segment with Billy and Mickey alone in a studio. They did the custom drums for this documentary, so you will hear at first like beads hitting each other and then Mickey and Billy hitting these two long vertical drums and it is off and running. Lots of grate footage through out Backstage Pass. But during this drums you will see the train, will not say more though, as it is intense. It also has these Dead motif walking puppets that are a trip. Maybe someone can pinpoint where this footage is from. Hope that helps, sorry for the delay.

A Family Bus

and "come on, get happy!"

I think Bear helped with their sound system.

Last 5

1 Best of Muddy Waters, 2. Workingman 's Dead expanded version, 3. Charlie Musslewhite, Louisiana Fog, 4. Anthem of the Sun expanded version, 5 Best of Little Walter. Last 5 beers.. Plin y the Elder. x 5.

Live at Leeds

Listening right now

When you need a palette cleanser, L@L is a good one.

Last 5/Not Ashamed(of anything!!)

Last 5: CSNY-Deja Vu box-disc 3
CSNY-Deja Vu box-disc 2
Lemon Pipers-Best Of
Cream-Royal Albert Hall-disc 2
Yes-Close To The Edge-Steven Wilson mix

Dennis, you continue to be my brother from another mother. I have Partridge Family Best Of, a 2-disc Cowsills, one of which is Best Of. Not to mention ABBA’s Greatest Hits, 5th Dimension-Gold, and at least a dozen more that most people wouldn’t admit to owning, much less enjoying.
Music is the Best!!

Enjoying both

I didn't need another copy of Skullf#@% but I'm interested for the 7/2 tracks. I agree that Pigpen on organ was exactly what the Dead needed in 1971-1972. Sure he may have hit a bad note now and then, but they all did. Pigpen had a great presence of mind to play exactly when needed.

Holding The Poison Down

"And now for something completely different..."

- Monty Python

For years now I've been writing the Foo Fighters off as populist soccer mom rock, and Dave Grohl as an over exposed puppy dog. I cannot believe how much I love the new record, Medicine At Midnight.

Very stylistically diverse and just a beautiful, fun, warm rock record. Amazing. I could not gush more.

And now back to your regularly scheaduled programming...

Foo Fighters

My wife used to watch top 20 video countdown

FF "LEARNIN TO WALK AGAIN!!!"

and

"THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST!!!"

no hate or disrespect

Just facts

I was lucky enough to see Nirvana in '92

Dave Grohl

Not a huge fan of his music, but he is a cool dude. Sound City is an outstanding documentary.

Ella

Just scored a Ella Fitzgerald collection (the complete songbook series)

Talk about Ella came up last night at work and came home to check my Ella stuff. I have several of the "song books" collections. Never knew the was a "complete" box set. Guess it out of print. Amazon had big dollar pricing. Found a copy on a site called Mercari,,,, 83 bucks!!! 16 cd box!

From wiki -

They are considered a cornerstone of 20th century recorded popular music, and as a whole, represent some of the finest interpretations of the greater part of the musical canon known as the Great American Songbook.

The New York Times columnist Frank Rich was moved to write a few days after Fitzgerald's death that in the Song Book series, she "performed a cultural transaction as extraordinary as Elvis's contemporaneous integration of white and African-American soul."

Here was a black woman popularizing urban songs often written by immigrant Jews to a national audience of predominantly white Christians. As Ira Gershwin said, in the line quoted in every obituary: "I never knew how good our songs were until I heard Ella Fitzgerald sing them." Most of the rest of us didn't know, either. By the time she had gone through the entire canon, songs that had been pigeonholed as show tunes or jazz novelties or faded relics of Tin Pan Alley had become American classical music, the property and pride of everyone."[3]

Sorry for the non sequitur,,, I just had to share my good fortune.

Oh,,,,, don't tell the wife!!

Mr Ones & the 5th

HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE 5th DIMENSION!!!

Here inside my paper cup we listen while on Stone Soul Picnics!

...Reading this thread...

I can't help but remember Mr. Ones catch phrase, Music is the Best.

There's always something going on around here and certainly not restricted to the Grateful Dead.

Ella, Ella, Ella

Flashback to ~1975... I'm 17... We get tickets for Ella Fitzgerald with the Count Basie Orchestra (the Count was conducting, I believe) and we head to the Westchester Premier Theater (now closed).

Picture 4-5 teenagers with long hair, flannel shirts and jeans, probably stinking of pot, possibly with "white walls" around our nostrils (we got into blow that year), entering the theater, where everyone was dressed in their New York City best. Just after the show began. The ushers wouldn't seat us in our ticketed seats down front -- understandable now, but not then. But they seated us somewhere. Ella and the band played a remarkable set and Phil Woods -- one of the greatest clarinetists ever -- played a solo that I still remember absolutely devastated us. Then the band took requests. The process was amazing! A well-heeled jazz fan in the audience would yell out a tune. The Count would confer with his band. Always, a player would say something like, 'Oh yeah, that's a bouncy thing in G#m" and band heads would nod in agreement, Ella would say yay or nay on her knowing the lyrics -- or she'd scat/fake 'em -- and off they'd go. So polished, you wouldn't know they'd never played it before. During intermission, we did get seated in our seventh row center ticketed seats, standing out like a pocket of hoodlums in a coiffed crowd. Amazing night.

We caught all kinds of uptown jazz and swing acts in those days because my buddy's dad had been a drummer for the fabled Savoy record label in Neward, NJ, and when he heard us listening to the Band of Gypsys (Hendrix of course), he went to his record collection, pulled out 15 LPs, handed them over and said, 'Okay, if you're gonna listen to Hendrix and the Dead etc., you also have to learn where everything came from. Dig this!' And he thrust the well-played platters into my hands. That opened me up to the music of the 1940s, '50s and early '60s. Of course, over the years, I pushed back to the '30s and '20s -- Robert Johnson and Co., Lonnie Johnson, etc., which was a legacy of my friend's dad lifting the veil on popular music.

So, I may be HF, but I got schooled by that LP collection and dozens of killer shows in NYC while I lived in the area. Good times. Big ears. Ask about our Oscar Petersen 'experience' sometime.

That is all...

5th Dimension - Summer of Soul

The 5th Dimension are figured prominently in the Summer of Soul documentary on Hulu. Good flick. Seeing Mavis Staples singing with Mahalia Jackson may not make you a believer, but it will sure make you happy.

Would love to meet Mavis someday. Woman has the power of a thousand suns.

"and with a voice like Ella's ringing out

there's no way the band could lose"

Wife had the good fortune to hear EF at a jazz camp back a few decades

Mighty Mavis

Caught her with Amy Helm and another great singer at Chautauqua in Boulder a few years back. Then again opening for Dylan, when she promised to literally kick the ass of the Mango Mussolini -- cracked up the crowd. Boy, think of the Pay-for-View revenue from that televised event..............

Bad sign: two posts in a row

But I'll spin DP 36 again this week, as I feel an announcement coming on 39 -- perhaps this Friday, if the pattern holds?

Huh, I never used to be like this -- impatient for a release, when there's more to life than DPs...

Okay, who the f*** am I kidding??

DaP 39

I can't believe I am saying this.. but it does look like we will get an update on 39 before the box set reveal.

The third release of the year can be the real wildcard of the subscription. I am guessing 82 or 91, but would be stoked with a 69 dropped into this years lineup. In any case.. it seems it will compete with the box set reveal to an extent.

In other words.. Dave, if you're listening, we need another release.

Seeing is believing

It'll be a bit of a shock to log on here and see news of an upcoming release.

GarciaLive 1.5?

I've been grooving to a lot of JGB lately (GL 16 is very nice), and have been wishing for some JGB releases from the early 80s. I looked into some good bootlegs online, then came across old news about how 6/26/81 was "released" officially many years ago, but only as a download, only for one week, and perhaps only as an incentive to purchase a t-shirt? No wonder I didn't get it, and I get everything.

Does anyone have the official download? And are you willing to share, please? If it were available for sale then I wouldn't ask.

Thanks!

Hold onto your wallets, boys

Okay, so now the conventional wisdom is that DP 39 gets announced and, three weeks later, arrives, meaninig a box set announcement in the dog days of August?

Either that pushes the box news to post-Labor Day -- hey, I'm in no hurry to get there at this point, summer in the Rockies is so freakin' short -- or the TPTB simply ignore all rules of retail and count on the news spreading like wildfire, even if some folks have disappeared into the mountains in August...

Then there's the sense I got that beyond the DP series and the box, there's one other release getting teed up.

So, the mystery is probably not that mysterious: why no news, when last year the '76 box came somewhat early? I'm thinking that either the tapes, the box design or other production issue has hit a glitch and they're not announcing until and unless the path to a sales or preorder date is smoothed out.

What's the other release? I'd love to think it's an "early" Wake of the Flood -- a favorite of mine as I heard so much of it in concert prior to the LP's release. But here are a couple other thoughts: they skipped anything to do with the 50th of Live/Dead/Fillmore West because they've done the limited edition as well as a nice compilation for losers like me (who convinced myself at the time of release that I "didn't have the money"... Idiot!!) The coupling of WD and AB with '71 shows was simply that they have few '70 shows to spare and had already mixed the Capitol '71 run so those shows were handy. But doing a 50th of Skull & Roses, coupled with only a single disc of 7-2-71, threw my theories a curveball. I can't see anything clearly in this cloudy crystal ball. What if they release a DVD of one of the Euro '72 shows next year and WotF in 2023?? Just trying to think outside the black hole...

They're obviously not going to wait until 2039 to release a 50th Built to Last, as Dave clearly stated, so when does the acceleration begin? They've surely got enough '73 left in the can to do a full show with WotF, but that year's shows were nearly always 3 discs' worth. Except, um, the Watkins Glen soundcheck....(Yet the Compendium lists the soundcheck at 90 minutes, which would require a 10-minute trim job. Ugh.)

Okay, obviously running out of original ideas and now just circling back to my usual 2020-2021 harangue over a '72 box and a '73 WotF w/ Watkins bonus "idea." Just rambling now........

I swear I'll stop now...

After this: so I went back to Dave's seaside chat from 23 Oct 2020 and, skipping over "this version is amazing" and "you'll love the way the band does blah blah blah" and Dave says "we're doing preliminary work on the 2021 box, which we'll talk more about in a few months, I'm sure..."

Well, that clears up .......... NOTHING!

Since it looks like MUATM wont happen this year...

I plan to at long last experience a VFTV show on August 1

7 8 90? Nah.
6 16 90? Maybe.
6 14 91? Could easily be.
87? Uhhh....
GD movie? Nuh.
12 31 78? Hey.....

Hey! I have a copy of Essen 81!

THAT ONE!

I remember hearing/watching 6 14 91 and seeing Jerry morph into a lion.

That was cool.

The late Top Petty said it best....

...."the waiting is the hardest part."

Right There With You Proudfoot

We can have the party without them. Perhaps they will toss us a Shakedown Stream for good measure.

I love a good sense of humor.. I was reading this discovery of Neanderthal's ability to create art from deer bones 51,000 years ago in a cave in Germany, "the Unicorn Cave" to be exact.. (if I could attach the lenk to the article I would).. and at the article ended with the following line:

"The Neanderthal who turned a deer bone into art could not be reached for comment."

I know the box announcement

Jerryz birthday or the friday before

dead head brewer and JGB

check pm, hit me with a email

S&R 50th

cd and propeller vinyl came today. The prop effect was neat, should look good spinning. Unlike the picture on the site that made it look white, it was clear vinyl with black prop.

I have faith....

....that I won't be shamed for sharing the news that Britney Spears is retiring from recording.
Guilty pleasure. I know I've posted my appreciation for here before. I like beats. Her dad is a Pos.
Anywho. Also itching for a box set. Still waiting. I'm still waiting.
It's going to be Fall 72.

Dennis

I want to thank you for all the great music I have been able to download from you. Thanks so very much for sharing your stash. If I had the world to give.......

Vguy and Britney

Not a fan or non fan, but I love the lyrics to "Piece of Me". What a great song for the double entendre. I think I'd bet a dollar a doughnut she didn't write it, but the truth of the lyrics is astounding!

Sometimes it seems like......

....... there's just TOO much music available in the world!

I have a very sprawling collection of music and can still be caught off guard.

Buddy showed up yesterday and asked if I ever heard Dr. Lonnie Smith. I never had AND I had none in the collection.

Quick youtube check showed I needed some of this guy. ( I like the cover of Sunshine Superman with Iggy Pop)

Anyone got a nice collection they like to share,,, maybe I can offer some Jimmy Smith in return?

Dennis/Dr. Lonnie

How right you are. There is so much music that my wife thinks that I have ENOUGH music right now. I keep telling her that's not possible, but she does not understand. A lot of people confuse Dr. Lonnie Smith with Lonnie Liston Smith. Easy to do because they both play the organ, but in fact, 2 different people. I have a bunch of Lonnie Liston Smith, but the only Dr. Lonnie Smith I have is called Afrodesia. I'd be happy to send you a burn copy, if you want to PM me. Music just might break up this ole marriage O'mine!!

Keep listening, because Music is the Best!!

Box Announcement

I'm guessing there is a very real possibility that Garcia's family is up to their old tricks and started another legal battle. The second box from 2020 never came, now we're over a year out since the last one. Reminds me of 2007, we got one release that year, Spirit of 76. Later we found out it was because Koons had gone to court to take a bigger cut. Not sayin', just sayin'.

I certainly hope it's not a legal issue

The GD organization and its beneficiaries are...not destitute. Mo' money?

Hopefully the delay is just a "hey man, I had to make sure it was 'just exactly perfect'" thing

6 30 74

Very nice

Has anyone here attended a show with Seastones? 1974, that is.

Seastones.....

If you know the animated series BoJack Horseman

(humans and animals/insects/etc. coexist in a society where the animals have human bodies but animal/insect heads...just go with it...)

In an episode last night, a stagehand with a goat's head is wearing a goat skull steal your face Tshirt that reads "Goatful Dead"

Seastones live

Guilty as charged. I saw Seastones performed at Ally Pally in London, September 1974. They played three nights and I think Seastones was performed at the second and last shows. I have no idea which of those two nights was graced with my presence but I did witness Ned and Phil in action between sets. I was totally unimpressed by their electronic noodling. A compilation of the three shows was released as Dick's Picks Volume Seven. I have previously documented my subsequent efforts to get home after the show on here so I won't return to that now. I blame the space cakes.

Thank you simonrob, for your honesty

I was on the road in '74 and had to leave San Francisco in the 2nd week of Sept '74 to get home for school. So I missed Seatones shows and, yes, the "last 5 nights." So close, but no cigar. And, based on the tapes I've heard, I did not miss out when it came to Seastones. The '74 version of "Eyes"? Yes. But not Seastones.

Perhaps an acquired taste, like Ouzo? (Got a story there.....)