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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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March 20, 2022 - 4:57pm

#31

daverock

Joined:
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More art

One of the most stunning experiences I had going to an art gallery was when I went to see "Sunflowers" by Van Gogh a few years ago. I eventually found the room it was in, and noticed a huddle of people in front of a painting on the far side of the room. One of them moved..and there it was. It had a spotlight on it so that the yellow of the flowers shone out into the room. Amazing...but as I got closer, I realised that it didn't have a light on it at all - the light was actually coming out from within the painting. Truly extraordinary.
It's also quite an experience going to see his work in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. I just wandered in there by chance about 30 years ago. Wow.
March 20, 2022 - 2:07pm

#32

Oroborous

Joined:
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Conekid in the know

per usual!
Thanks, lol, never knew that request page existed. Goes to show, just gotta poke around!
Those will get utilized more now for sure…Smithers, release the hounds!

Yeah that RFK was probably too many units for what it was? Good example of doing say one of these a year at lower unit count along with a more traditional box release at perhaps less units?
But I liked RFK, (hell I think they’ve done a great job with most) because that stretch from summer through the next summer is prime time for moi, and it sounds great, but they certainly weren’t the best available, once again the ole he went to a great city and street, but picked the wrong house? ? Wasn’t it relatively pricey too?
But as we’ve all been saying, there’s a whole lot of causal heads out there who might not buy anything UNLESS it was something they were at. Perhaps explains the Giants phenomenon some what?
That was sorta my M.O. back around turn of the century: “I have more than I need so I’m only going to get shows I was at. That worked out sorta ok at first by sheer dumb luck, but I eventually realized
A) I’m not going to get many of those any time soon, if at all, and
B) I’m missing out on some killer shit!
The E72 Dark Stars are what really brought me back. Didn’t get the trunk but picked up several of the Dark Star shows Ala cart.
So started dabbling again, but mostly just wanted the music and not more stuff. Luckily or not, my cousin used to get a lot of the releases free through their business connections with GDP etc, but when that all changed with Rhino etc, they lost those relationships. So I was able for a while to get copies of stuff he had that I wanted.
But then I started getting back into it, hanging with you junkies etc lol, and next thing you know I’m a “collector”, just the thing I was trying to avoid lol.
So of course the down side of only getting copies is all the great collection stuff I missed out on!
The biggest regrets were the FW box and Winterland 73. The FW I just wasn’t very in dead land at the time and because of the repetitive set lists figured “oh hell, I have live dead already” idiot!
Luckily I have the mini version and you know who here tightened me up with copies of the box, so at least I have the music!
The Winterland 73, being fall 73, which even then was one of the tours I had huge interest in, I contemplated getting it, and man, wasn’t it really cheap considering, but I cheap skated out and have been regretting it ever since!
Some of the others I regret only as a “collector” now, though I should have grabbed that summer 78, wasn’t that another bargain box?

So yeah Daverock, the scene was relatively small until later. When I started going in late seventies there were tour heads, but not anything like what would come. I think the whole multi show run factor contributed to this. It was now much easier to just plan on a three show run or two, especially day on weekends, then to catch 5 or 6 shows, one stop at a time up and down I 90 etc.
Now I know old timers talk of how it changed throughout the seventies, especially that huge influx of kids like me in the mid and late seventies, but I don’t think it was near as dramatic as what we saw from late seventies up too 87 when it exploded, perhaps leveled off a bit, but continued at a steady pace that unfortunately just got too big to support it properly. Fame, the kiss of death…

ART: not a active art participant, but sometimes you get shown the light!
We had a great Albright Knox gallery back in the tundra, and on family vaca to Europe in late seventies, went to tge Louvre etc. Don’t recall a lot of specifics, Mono Lisa etc? But it definitely impacted my thick adolescent Beavis and Butthead dumb American skull. That whole trip would of been much more awesome if I’d only been older.
That Hopper work is cool. I’ve seen that corner diner one but wouldn’t say I was familiar. Will have to burn a fat one and check him out. Yasss great light etc. And yes, I can only imagine how much more sharp and vivid his work would be live!
Good sheet Mon,
Party on Wayne!
March 20, 2022 - 12:57pm

#33

That Mike

Joined:
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E-mail Survey

DaveRock - Awesome idea with the email to all the folks on the mailing list. Something that perhaps itemizes what is in the vaults (no use clamouring for reels that don’t exist), and survey to see what is in high demand. I know on the Neil Young site, as an example, he has a “Letters” column where he states he answers ALL the letters himself (I’ve sent a few, and always get a reply), and the bulk of requests are folks asking him to release this show, or this tour, etc, and he tells you if the request is even doable. I don’t expect the Core Four to answer Dead Head mail, but a quick email survey is interesting. Maybe it is as easy as Ice Cream Kid says, and we just hit up the request thread, but it doesn’t tell us what tapes are in the vault, and what condition, etc.

PS - Dave, you are right about seeing the art “in person”, but of course, work of say a DaVinci is so limited, so rare, and will not ever tour, that it would be so hard to see in person, save visiting Paris or Venice. But, should a major show make the rounds, like Picasso, or Diego Rivera/Frida Khalo, I’ve made a point to see it, and you are right - seeing a picture of these works does not do them justice! There is something about seeing The One And Only of something, knowing the artist worked on this piece. I’ll paraphrase Mr Ones al a “Music is the best”: “Art - and sports - are a close second!”
March 20, 2022 - 11:51am

#34

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

A new approach

Crmcnkd - I hadn't noticed that section asking us to make recommendations, so thanks for pointing that out. Maybe, though, the only people likely to fill that out are the people who come on here-all the old faces-and we know what they (we, me) will say in advance. I like the idea of reaching people who may not come on here - maybe an email like we get telling us what is coming out- but asking us what we would like to see coming out instead. The key is, it has to be "them" wanting a survey - as much, if not more, than "us" wanting to fill one in.

Oro - thinking of casual fans of different eras, it reminds me of the fact that Deadheads didn't actually exist in the 1960s. I can't imagine early fans travelling around the country to see them. I guess it started with the invite to "Deadfreaks" on "Skull and Roses", but I would think it took several years before the travelling circus developed.

It's interesting watching a documentary on late 60's San Francisco bands called "Go Ride The Music-West Pole". The main bands on this are Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger Service - but at one point an interviewer asks people queuing up outside a concert hall, who their favourite bands are. I was expecting them to say "The Dead" automatically-but they don't. They are mentioned but they were clearly perceived at that time as just being another band, along with the two mentioned, Steve Miller, Janis etc.

Mike - one of the great things about going to art galleries is how much more alive the originals are compared to the prints and posters you can see anywhere. I would say that going to an art gallery to look at paintings is a bit like going out to hear live music. If you go to any gallery, look at the originals, and then go in the gift shop and look at a book reproducing the originals you have just seen, the difference between the two is shocking.
March 20, 2022 - 11:23am

#35

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Rehashing past speculation

Don’t forget that several people, including myself, have previously told stories about talking to other deadheads who are completely clueless or disinterested in the official releases.

The RFK Box is 15,000 copies and not sold out, although the banner says “less than 750 left”.
My Boxes are packed away so I can’t check what the production numbers are, but 15,000 seems to be the limit except for a few releases that need an AME.
I think that the last few Boxes were in the 10,000-12,000 range.

Dave’s Picks can sell 25,000 due to people buying more than one subscription and resellers.
And if you subscribe early bird you get 13 or 14 CD’s for $100, which is a pretty good deal.

For those wanting to take a survey, there is a page on this site called ‘Requests - Box Sets’.
I posted on it this morning, so use the ‘recent posts’ button to get to it, or use the search box.
March 20, 2022 - 11:16am

#36

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

Boxes & Paintings

I am enjoying the discussion, because I’m hoping the marketing folks, or even the interns working at Rhino, see that this is a very passionate group of dedicated fans. Oro, I really think you have made some great points, and it is hard to please everyone (personally I have never been a hardcore 60s Dead fan, because that was before they came along with jewels like Wake of The Flood, Mars Hotel, etc, and all the outstanding concert material those albums brought forth), but so much work goes into the sourcing and mixing of the music in these boxes, and the art work, and the history to the scene happening at the time, that most, if not all, are home runs.
Oro, you definitely hit the mark on many points, as did others, but collectively, as a group of fans, our mantra is “Keep ‘Em Coming!”

DR - I love a wide range of art, and even doodle a bit myself, but Hopper is definitely an artist I have held in the highest esteem, for his amazing use of light and open space to paradoxically create figures of loneliness and solitude. If I can ever get my butt to NYC, the Whitney Museum of American Art is where I plan to sleep; the guy was an American master, and really nice to hear you too see his immense talent.

Last listen - McLaughlin/Corea - Five Peace Band Live
On Deck - Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed
March 20, 2022 - 9:47am

#37

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Great Discussion

I think I fall into the category y'all are citing here. Not quite into it as much as the die-hards but wanting it all anyway. The LTTR box was more money than I was willing to put out at the time so I chose the LIA vinyl instead. A trade off decided by my having already pre-ordered Dave's #1 vinyl and simply wanting to get more vinyl. Interestingly, all the fantastic comments have me alternately regretting my choice and being satisfied with a taste of '72. DR said recently the chunk I have on Light Into Ashes is the crux of the biscuit of the box so today I feel satisfied. My collecting took a hiatus around the time the big Europe '72 trunk came out but kindly folks here are helping me fill that void. Thanks to all for keeping the fire alive. It's so nice to have reliable information from everyone here in our disinformation shrouded world.
Cheers all!
March 20, 2022 - 8:06am

#38

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Great comments

Mike, the 60s vibe, that’s a good example of what I’m saying. To “US”, the hardcore lunatics at deadnet, there appears to be an overwhelming unified consensus demanding a 60s box, but perhaps if you did a survey like DR suggests, our sample might be quite small comparatively? Just talking out me arse, but worth a thought?
You’d think they’d be doing marketing , but maybe not? Maybe they have been so fortunate to have enough of a loyal, reliable, bankable demand that they could just go with whatever they felt was good?

Personally, I think it’s good when things don’t sell out immediately. Gives some folks like P.T. etc a chance to decide or what not if they want to buy it. Or maybe you didn’t hear about it right a way, and as the bastard Murphy would have it, your busted after getting yet another of your kids braces, while the other kid smashed the car, and your washing machine broke. Like “Whaaaa???, you want $300 tomorrow morning, Dooaahh”
But these are singular micro type scenarios and we’re talking macro level.
Maybe DR is right and the nostalgia factor is bigger then I think, in that logistically, because of age, there are more casual fans from the later years than the early ones. Hell statistically, comparatively there weren’t that many causal fans in the early years. Let’s face it, for good or for ill, as time advanced there were way more causal “lets just go party and check it out folks” going to shows.
So maybe that’s part of it, when/if something that this larger population feels more akin to comes round, their more likely to buy it, then yet another older moldy from a time they don’t know or care about because they’ve never been in that deep?
I guess it’s probably a perfect storm of all the things we’ve been discussing? All these factors add up and the amount of units we’re talking about isn’t really that large, so…
But!….that’s all the more reason to deliver more, but smaller batches of certain eras!

Though I understand why a Giants type box would sell so fast, I still, do not understand fully how this box, by now, has not? Shifting market demographics and saturation is my guess though?
Just goes to show…
March 20, 2022 - 7:14am

#39

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Tip of the hat

ThatMike - my eyes lit up when you mentioned Edward Hopper. I really like his work too. About 20 years ago there was great exhibition on in London, and it was a real treat to be able to go from room to room and get drawn into his world. You can see his influence sometimes in films -"Deep Red" by Dario Argento features a scene that is clearly modelled on "The Nighthawks". And although I can't think of specific examples at the moment, Alfred Hitchcock and David Lynch feature scenes in some of their films that look to me to have been influenced by Hopper's way of seeing things.
March 20, 2022 - 5:01am

#40

PT Barnum

Joined:
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format? sound quality? putting great shows with good shows?

IMO there seems to be lots of reasons why this has not sold out. I did not buy it and I buy them all. After the so so patch jobs on the PNW box which I did not care for, I passed on this box. These are all good shows, with great shows mixed in. Call me a snob but I want all great shows with no cuts or patches. If that's not possible then I will just keep what I got from the archive or from etree, why spend that kind of scratch for shows I already have that only sound a bit better?
The format could be the reason, some only want from the era they were a part of, mostly 80's from what I gather here. I like the progression of the band from psychedelic juggernaut to what they became, but not everyone's cup of tea.
Perhaps it's the ploy of putting out most requested shows with shows that are not up to the great show that they are centered around? The original great box was a tough act to follow, seeings how the E72 tour was their best tour and it was the first one released with a massive 73 discs. With that great price. How to follow that? It's been what tptb have been asking themselves since.
The spring 90 boxes are a good example of that also, a great tour with consistently great shows released at a great price, which sold out quickly.
But what do I know? just the ramblings of an old deadhead on the first day of Spring.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Dennis/ThatMike

Gentlemen, perhaps we could offer our wives one house to live in(happily), and the 3 of us could use the other 2, on a rotating basis. This could very well be the end, my friend. Just in case, I had it shipped to a friends house. Like I stated on the Dave's 38 thread, I can't afford this box, but I can't afford to wait either. Buy now, and suffer the consequences later, that's what I say!!
Music is the Best!!

And the one Wharf Rat is amazing!!!

Box

Great box. It is going to be a long but sweet wait till Oct. 1st. . This will probably be sold out in 24-48 hours. If you hesitate, you might be sorry.

Yes!

...and done!

Shipping merch to friends houses....

....I get it. I shipped the 30 Trips to my work at the time.
The Mrs didn't notice it for almost a year.

Greetings From The Yukon/Alaska Border

Hey Mr Ones - A great idea about the shared housing, but because we just did a pretty expensive refresh on our living room, including floor, etc, I thought my best option to avoid the infamous “Dame Shame” was to take a line from Woody Guthrie’s Pretty Boy Floyd, and head for Hidden Creek, Yukon (since I’m in Canada anyway!). I have forwarded all appropriate box set deliveries, accordingly, and I’ll send the Mrs a lovely postcard! This way I avoid six months of silences, and dinner being slid under the bedroom door.

“He ran through the trees and bushes
On the Canadian River shore
And many a-starving farmer
Opened up his door”

That was easy, apart from…

That was easy, apart from some confusion over the downloads on my behalf. Roll on October,and also keeping an eye on Dave's Picks 39 announcement in the next few days.

pre ordered

i'm getting this one just for the 1972 shows, and the 73 shows, some awesome jams ahead.

Much appreciation to J Norman

and all your support staff

Thank you thank you thank you

Bird Songs

It's the 72 and 73 shows that are the biggest draw for me here as well. Three Bird Songs, I notice, in each of the three 72 shows. It appears progressively later in the set with each show, and gets progressively shorter, too. A real highlight of Fall 72 shows in my opinion.

*re/ 2021 Boxset

...I’m gratefully full of grateful graditude & Pride! The Good Ol Grateful Dead do it again and again and again, and again!!!!!..lol ha ha .
I can’t help myself but to “smile smile Smile “
I’m truly always Amazed what the Dead have to offer us rabid Fans just waiting to hear one more show after another show or performances! I’m truly grateful for these upcoming collections for sale. Have a grateful day everyone peace be with you my brothers and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹
Last night I had a red moon in my sky! It was beautiful! ;)🙏❤️😎💀🌹

Fall/Winter ‘71

I’m glad that these December ‘71 shows are being released. Late ‘71 shows have only been released a few times(one Road Trips and one Dave’s I believe). This era is kind of underrated, which is understandable because they didn’t play too many Dark Stars or Other Ones or jam that much at all, much like ‘87 in that way. But the playing during this era was something special. Most of the December’71 shows have soundboards on Archive, so I could definitely see more being released in the future.

Cool

Glad to see this was offered in digital
Didn’t get the Portland because it wasn’t
I wonder why
As most of the specialty releases offered in digital
That being said
Glad it’s not 80’s
My feeling to that era
Is that it didn’t compare to the 69 thru 74
Probably because I went to more shows during that time
72 holds a near and dear place
They were more fun
Guess I was younger
I think a lot of us were younger
If I started to listen to all my collection
I probably would have live past 100
A daunting task
But not out of question

I finally just now "got" 9 8 73

That Truckin' is ausgezeichnet!!!

Super Terrific!

Hells-to-the-yeah! Well this is just peachy keen. I love box sets that cover multiple years so you can get different sounds in one listening. I'll admit, I miss Brent in any release that he is not a part of, but this one will more than make up for it. I remember going to the Fox and the Kiel as a kid. Saw the Blues play, watched WWE wrestling, and attended many concerts over the years. Right now, St. Louis is in a bad way...much discord and tension. I can't wait to listen to these shows to remind me of better times. So happy about this release!

9/8/73 Truckin

Yeah this is definitely one of the best I’ve heard. The jam definitely has a I Need a Miracle feel. Jerry’s even playing the riff for a bit! That whole show is just something else

Listen to the river

God Bless The Grateful Dead!

Third Man Records

Anybody use?

They seem to have "subscriptions" at 240 per year. Does that include the albums or is the 240 just a cover charge to get you in the door to buy?

THey have the new Dylan collection coming out in vinyl,,,, do you get that 'free" for the 240? If not anyone know what the price of the collection is?

No need to rush.

There is absolutely no way this box set sells out in 48 hours. I’d be shocked if there aren’t copies available a year from now.

One of the best GD boxed…

One of the best GD boxed sets ever, just exactly the kind of thing I'm always hoping for. Thank You and can't wait !

Grateful Dead - Sugaree (Live at the Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO

“ up on YouTube my brother and sisters!
Grateful Dead - Sugaree (Live at the Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71)

Dennis - Third Man Records

I don’t subscribe However looking at their website it appears that the subscription gets you a quarterly package April’s was a a vinyl White Stripes album and a DVD. The new package (subscribe before 07/31) will be a four LP set of tracks from the new Dylan release that doesn’t overlap with the tracks on the 2 LP version being issued by Sony Presumably the tracks are from the 5CD box set Third Man say this will be the only issue of these tracks on vinyl Other benefits of the subscription appear to be a 10% discount on other purchases from them and a 75% reduction on a subscription to Tidal

10/18/72 on vinyl

Listening to Dave's chat, it seems a two L.P. set of the Playing jam from 10/18/72 is due for release as well. I would definitely be tempted by that.
Strange how he keeps stressing the fact that the shows for each of the three years in question reflect the official releases from the respective years-Skull and Roses, Europe 72 and Wake of the Flood. They don't seem to, that much, to me. Keith isn't on Skull and Roses, Pigpen is on Europe 72 and Wake is nothing like how they sounded live in 73. A selling angle, I guess.

I notice Nicholas Meriwether has popped up again too. No doubt to proffer words of wisdom and historical/social perspective. I quite enjoy his essays, myself. Although I was aged between 13 and 23 in the 70s, I had no sense of the times at all. Especially not the ones in America. But it's interesting to me now, how it all fits together.

10/18/72 On Vinyl

"Light into Ashes", from 10/18/72 is up for preorder on the "Listen to the River" merch page. Limited edition 2-LP, 180-gram custom colored vinyl, limited to 7,200 copies. It is a Dead.net exclusive and it comes in at $44.98. It will be released on 10/1/2021 like the box etc.

Disc 1 / Side A PLAYING IN THE BAND [16:03] DRUMS [2:56]
Disc 1 / Side B DARK STAR (Beginning) [13:38]
Disc 2 / Side A DARK STAR (Conclusion) [15:48]
Disc 2 / Side B MORNING DEW> [11:12] PLAYING IN THE BAND [5:32]

just to button this up

I now have 73 unread emails in my inbox. Which means I went from 71 to 72 to 73. See how that works? Box set came at just the right time to keep the universe in balance.

10/18/72 on vinyl

Simon -thanks, I hadn't noticed that. I think it was the different coloured cover. I'll give it a bit of thought - pure indulgence. Don't think I'll chance leaving it a year, though.

Sing sweet songs…

Goodness am I excited for this one to arrive! Ordered when I got the email. Someone in here already said it, but the pre and post Euro’72 representations of the Dead are among the best! Of course, I’m biased. Euro’72 is what turned me on.

"Listen to the river" is an inspired name for this box set

Whoever came up with it deserves a "Great Job!" sticker.

Ordered

10/18/72 has been a favorite show of mine for some years, so very excited about this box. Like the '73 shows, as well, and the '71s will be new to me, but I like that tour, so really looking forward to this. It gives us some Fall '72 and jazzy '73 with bonus of more rocking '71. Plus not one or two, but three Brokedown Palaces! I also ordered Light Into Ashes, because that is pretty sweet. I may get the 5LP at some point, but I think the box and 2LP will be sufficient.

Soon another Seaside Chat...

they got me

i was thinking i might not need this year's box, i have become used to streaming the archive using the Attics app which makes it so easy that i find myself listening to shows i actually have CDs of on the archive since its so dern convenient (in the car, jogging, etc), but then they had to drop this new product, i am an east coast lifer but who did spend 11th grade in st louis, while there in 83/84 i obtained tapes of 12/10/71 (2nd set), 5/15/77 (2nd set) and 12/9/79 (1st set)... all from st louis, and 11th grade in the midwest is a fond memory, i only saw one show at the fox and that was count basie orch, 12/10/71 was a pivotal recording for me, the playin with big sustained piano chords, a beautiful brokedown, a very energetic sugar mag, and the portion of the show that bob dedicated to the key of E is just one of the best dead jam sequences i have ever heard, not to mention i am fairly comfortable with the statement "71 -73 are my favorite years", so uhm how could i not, although after ordering i was struck by the irony that 10/17/72 was sounding real good from the archive while jogging (including some heavy first set PA issues that were pissin them off), birdsong was fantastic

the new box

Took about 20 seconds of internal debate... yes, loads of Grateful recordings, no I do not want to miss this. Transition from 71 to 73 was major, this era is such a sweet spot for me, was listening for years but my first show was then, just missed Pig live. The audio magic that happens to clean up these fifty year old recordings is transformational, can't ever go back. Wasn't it the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers who said, music will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no music? Or was that something else... Thanks so much to all the folks who bring us these adventures.

Passion surprises......

Yo rockers!!!

Paperwork day here. Listening to 12/9/71 while I work on autopsy reports. Fine stuff, as is the mammoth 12/10 show.

For anybody out there NOT familiar with 10/18/72 (yeah, all two of you!!), I think you will really enjoy it. That big set two jam is one of the best of the year.

Definitely something to look forward to..........

Back to work. And 12/10..........

Rock on!!

Doc
I've been around a long time, and life still has a whole lot of surprises for me.....

looks wonderful

I’ll play the one off anomaly here with this release as ’75 onward more often than not is my go to GD. Preference being to sit down with complete shows or sets and with these earlier years, I tend to listen to the extended jams and sequences only. For that reason I passed on PNW. But I’m picking this one up. We’re basically getting three mini box sets from three very different years and for the discs that are song based, they’ll prove their worth on road trips. Besides that, St Louis is a fabulous city! Neither here nor there for all you objective listeners but fun nonetheless (as is 4 Hands Brewery). Cheers!

kaleidoscope

while commenting i may as well thank whomever mentioned Kaleidoscope on here a couple months ago, i obtained the 3 CD set "pulsating dream - the epic years" which contains their albums from 67, 68, 69 and 70 plus other singles and such, they are absolutely the best new old band i have found in a decade, i couldnt listen to anyone else for a couple weeks, i have yet to speak with any music aficionado friends who have even heard of them, but someone on these boards mentioned that they were a band with david lindley who shared the bill with the dead several times in san fran and maybe LA in the late sixties and that was enough to pique my interest, i could go on in detail about their sound their originals and their great cover selections for paragraphs but i wont, i will say for anyone interested there is also a british kaleidoscope from the same era that i dont know anything about yet

All two of us

“Just the Two of Us” composition by Bill Withers and Grover Washington Jr makes me get up up up and move, move, move.
I was in Guatemala January 1994 and saw an old gringo who was wearing a t-shirt that said , “This white man can jump” on the back it said, “And Boogie Too”.
I think I’m old enough to wear one now.

Looks like another "Stella" release!!

Another "Stella" release from Dave and his crew of dedicated heads! It's going to be extremely difficult waiting for October 1st to roll around. However, I always have "Get Shown The Light" to tide me over!!

No picture yet...

... I think it will be boxed like the Spring 90 stuff. Easy to put on the shelf, but I like the "box" boxes.

How about a unveiling video Dave?

Packaging Description

Does anyone know the packaging dimensions? I wish there were photos and packaging dimensions detailed to help me decide if I'm interested (since compact packaging is equally important as the music to me).

Misprint in Email and Light Into Ashes

What does 12-10-72 have to do with any of this St. Louis box? Isn't that a Winterland show? The error is in both the email announcement and the product description of the 2-LP Light Into Ashes set. Had to double check my DeadBase to make sure of what I was ordering. Dyslexia? Is there even an editor? Dave does that sometimes in Taper's section too.
Cheers, and Latvala!

Import Duty Charge To UK

Regarding the box set, I am indeed soooo tempted, but would anyone have a rough idea how much the UK import duty changes would be on top of what is essentially 200.00GBP - I imagine at least 40.00 GBP but does anyone here have a more accurate idea?

Who's Packing"

Interesting to see some others concerned about packaging. I know that, for me, the “deluxe” packaging for the Northwest box was a major reason I hesitated on purchasing it. The packaging on that set is really beautiful and unique, but it’s so bulky, and I barely have room for my CD collection as it is. I eventually caved in and bought the set anyway (how could I not? Too much great music), but I wound up removing the CDs, putting the outer box back in the cardboard shipping container, and putting that in the attic of my life.

I thought the June 76 box did a good job of providing packaging that looks great and feels special but doesn’t take up as much space as the bulky May 77 and Northwest boxes. My two cents, in case any of TPTB are listening.
Man, it’s going to be a long wait till October!

Packaging and me personally

They can send it in white cd envelopes for all I care. Just gimme dat music.

One man's opinion...

You want this one, Romberg. Trust me.

:)))

I Hope It Comes With a Sticker!

My Dave's Picks sticker is fading quickly on the bumper. Not the quality of my been-on-the-car-ten-years 6" stealie which is virtually unfaded. But I still have the S&R sticker to fill in until October just in case. Wait, was I supposed to keep those for the resale value after I'm gone and someone will be selling my 100 or more (36 DiPs, 39 and counting DaPs, Boxed sets, Road Trips, Vaults, etc. should be close to 100) releases at an estate sale? Better put those on theBay honey, you'll get more money. Better yet go to Dead net and sell them there.
Cue the Monty Python movie, "Bring out yer dead! I'm not dead yet! Yes, but you've been very ill. But I'm feeling much better!
Cheers!

Hi everyone! It's been years…

Hi everyone! It's been years since I posted, but I just couldn't hold back my excitement for this set! Five of these shows are top-shelf prime GD, and the other two (12/9/71 and 10/17/72) doubtless have gold nuggets to mine. I've been waiting for 10/18/72 and the '73 sets for years. If memory serves, TOO from 12/10/71 is on par with 10/22.

This is the best set they've come up with since PNW 73-74, and may be even better. 10/18/72's big jam can go toe-to-toe with 5/19/74's and I think the rest is more consistent than the previous box. Heck, this might just be the best set since E72.

Oct 1 cannot come fast enough.

SMIX - Import Duties

I don’t guaranteed I’m right but the govdotuk website appears to say 20% VAT and since it’s above £135 another 2.5% Import duty plus the delivery company handling charge which used to be £8. This would mean a total charge of £53
The UK government changed the rules so that the supplier (deaddotnet) should collect the taxes for them but this didn’t happen with my order

I have tried several times to post this plain text message but the stupid system keeps rejecting it

I call everyone Darling because I can't remember their names....

Hey rockers!!

With this new--and wonderful--box set, I see a lot of old familiar names coming out of the woodwork and commenting. Miss you all!! All will be recognized as more 50th anniversaries unfold..............

Keepin' it real, keepin' it rockin',

Doc
Our names are labels, plainly printed on the bottled essence of our past behavior....

Import Duty Charge To UK

Thanks Colin, that figure was the one I was starting from so I reckon that (sadly) you are pretty close to the real cost, I dunno, my main gripe isnt towards the Dead its simply that I resent paying another huge wedge like that (which, lets face it, is around 25% of the cost of the boxset). I guess there are other larger issues going on in the world right now but have to be honest, its this extra cost that has put me off from buying the last couple of boxsets, oh for a UK supplier....

Postage to England-Kaleidoscope

It will cost even more if you include "Light into Ashes", which I am sorely tempted to do. But yes, a British distributor would be manna from heaven. Due to the cost, I don't intend to buy any boxes of shows from after 1975. I might pass on future Dave's from the later periods too.

Leedesj - I got "Pulsating Dream " by Kaleidoscope a few years ago - superb-especially the first two cds. I don't know anything about David Lindley, though.

The British band called Kaleidoscope are also well worth checking out. Their first album is my favourite-called "Tangerine Dream". Whimsical chocolate box pop psych at its finest.

Nice looking dog on your avatar pic.

Packaging

Loved the June '76 box, packaging was just exactly perfect; so was the July 78. TTATS was my least favorite: bulky, ugly, and the CD slipcases were pretty cheap. Have a feeling this one will be similar to '76
Speaking of perfect packaging, listening to the amazing Nat Cole's Hitting the Ramp/The Early Years box set; Oscar Moore was such a great guitar player - highly recommended(7 discs housed in a CD sized box)

Crazy Fingers crossed...

...that it's still around on the 1st.
Looks fantastic.

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