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....as the Wichita show a month later, I think we will all be very satisfied.
One of my favorite Dave's.
And, if the '73 Kiel shows are anywhere close as mind blowing as the Pauley show a month later, I KNOW we will all be very, very satisfied.
Also one of my favorite Dave's.

As Isaac Hayes once opined, "You're damn right." I've been hoping for 10/18 as a Dave's Pick for a long time. I figured Texas, immediately after Wichita would be the box, but I like this, because you get an idea for a run of shows typical for the eras in my own personal sweet spot of eras rather than just Fall '72.

On the size of the box, if it's big like PacNW, I'll grumble and find a shelf for it. The organizing cubes make fantastic vinyl holders as well as display shelves for your Dead collection. Currently two cubes for The Who, one ABB, and eight Dead spread across an 8 cube and a 4 cube organizer. Really sturdy ones will hold a lot of albums. Ikea has good ones at a decent price called Kallax. Sorry for the ad, but just thinking with these big boxes, if you want them out and not in the closet, you gotta find a spot that one's spouse or partner can at least live with, maybe even tolerate if you keep it neat. Which reminds me, on a third unit I have the 30 Trips box and Giants Stadium, RFK '89, Crimson White and Indigo, and Wake Up to Find Out upon it. But, I don't have a problem...

Have my order in and very excited about these shows! October is way too far away...

....to say it can't come soon enough is an understatement.
I'm vaxxed and will still wear a mask. Don't get me wrong. I have a nice couch, but I really need to boogie.
It's in my rDNA.
I pray that the vaccine argument doesn't trickle down into the stands.
Vegas is a Hotspot currently. Masks mandates are back in vogue.

"....but I don't have a problem."

I don't have a problem either. I completely ran out of space for any more box sets. Then I realized just how much space those urns were taking up on the mantel. Now I have room for a few more big box sets. See, no problem here.

Really psyched for this box.. It turned out to be much better than I had hoped.. we get the full 72 run, plus 71 and 73 for good measure. And to be honest, I paid less attention to those years which I sort of anticipate giving me much more than I anticipated. Value often hinges on expectations.. if something exceeds expectations then it's wonderful.. yet if something falls short of expectations, even if it is truly excellent.. there is a bit of a letdown. I ordered mine immediately. I don't really give a crap how long it takes to sell out so long as my order went through.

As you were..., back to your regularly scheduled Dark Star > Morning Dew.

Can't Believe we will be getting these 7 shows. Three of my favorite years for Grateful Dead Music. I think Dave hit a Home Run with this Boxset. October 1st can't come soon enough.

So, the box is announced, and I am in, first order from Dead net after a whole series of ordering fiascos last year. Lets hope they have their sh*t together this time.
Great to see some love for Kaleidoscope, the LA band not the twee( sorry Daverock) UK band.
They were Plant and Zeppelins perfect live band, according to a Plant interview where he referenced their live shows which included Flamenco and belly dancers, unfortunately they were less well serviced by their 4 original albums,( before their very own hiatus) the first in particular is very jugbandy, think Charlatans. But by Beacon they began to show their potential, I will put my neck out and say that with the decent recording, a Bear type regime of recording live shows, and a record company that were prepared to put out a Live Dead type package in 69, they could have gone on to rival the Dead, and I say that not lightly.
Never had to much about them in print, however the estimable ZigZag had a highly entertaining 3 part series/interviews which greatly enhanced their legend, how much of it was true, and if in fact, any of it was based on actual interviews, is moot!
TAXIM!

I meant to check in here during the day after the 12/10/71 CD leaked on Amazon, but then was completely distracted by work. So I checked in after work and saw the dead.net home page: 20 CD Box Set '71, '72, '73. A wave of "ohhhhh fuuuuck" washed over me as I realized the thing had already been on sale all day.

So I began the process of frantically looking for my wallet. Nowhere to be found. Retrace your steps is what I was always taught to do. Left it in my car, right. Ran out to the driveway and there it was right on the passenger front seat. But my car was locked. You gotta be kidding me. At that point I had pictures in my head of returning and seeing a sold-out ribbon on the top left corner of the box set. Did I mention my wife had never seen Pulp Fiction until we queued it up over the weekend? Yeah, so I've been throwing quotes from that one all week, mostly Marsellus Wallace with his chill cool demeanor. So anyway, I began the process of frantically looking for my keys. Not so easy as retracing my steps because my wife drove my car last.

After checking all the usual places unsuccessfully, I had a better idea - wife's credit card. I started dumping the contents of her handbag overboard onto the couch. Found the credit card, started ordering, and of course she walks in with a mouth full of expletives when she saw her stuff all over the couch. I usually just blame the kids for stuff like this after the fact, but I was literally caught in the act. And worse was the reason she came in the room at all - kids were fighting and I'm supposed to "do something about it" while this panicked purchase frenzy is going on.

I took a deep breath and said Marsellus Wallace style (which she's been enduring since Sunday), "go in the other room and chill those mother ******* out. Come back in 20 seconds and then I need you to pretty please with sugar on top read your credit card number to me, because I don't have my glasses and this shit is small".

So she comes back I'm as I'm filling this thing out and sees the price tag in the shopping cart. "Why do you need another box set with all the same music?" she demanded.
Marsellus replied, "because there's 3 mother ****** Bird Songs".

She sighed and gave in, knowing quite well she has me out-spent 10 to 1. She finished reassembling the contents of her handbag, and as she left the room said, "your glasses are probably with your keys and wallet."

Although I like the UK Kaleidoscope, it has to be said that they make Syd's Floyd sound like Metallica.
Keithfan - wow, you're life sounds hectic !

There has been speculation as to what we will be charged under the new UK Tax regulations.

As the box set is over the new £135 limit introduced in January 2021, 20% Import VAT will be levied by the UK Tax Authorities. At todays Exchange Rate the VAT will be £32.86. This will need to be paid to the courier company before delivery who will also charge a handling fee (£8 if it is a standard Royal Mail delivery, considerably more from most other couriers). There should be no Import Duty applied as commercial CD's attract a 0% Duty rate. The 2.5% Import Duty mentioned previously only applies to gifts.

If there was a UK shop set up to sell the box (someone like Amazon for example) then they would be charging us the same 20% Sales VAT.

For deliveries under the £135 value, the new rules are that the seller must charge the 20% VAT on ordering and pay that direct to the UK Government.

Mr Jack Straw I also don't post much but read everything here daily. Lots of great Dead commentary. I was surprised by your high praise of the 5/19/74 jam. And not because there's anything wrong with it. Because in a world where there are 100s of Grateful Dead shows released, there are so many great second set jams that I am interested to know what makes 5/19/74 a 10/10 for you. I have mentally stored it as somewhere around 8 /10 which is awesome in my mind. May be an A minus. I would give a jam like the DaP 5 Playing > UJB > Dew > UJB > Playing a 10/10. Or E72 has that big DS > Uncle > DS > Wharf Rat > Sugar Mags 10/10. I will listen much more openly to 5/19/74. Happy for the heads up!

Sorry to those oversea who pay more and wait longer. I guess you don't go for Ebay out of print shows and boxes either? Talk about expensive.

KeithFan that ordering ordeal you had made me laugh here in the wee hours of the morning. Great movie I remember when it came out and I saw it in the theater. I walked thinking John Travolta was a lot cooler than I remembered.

didn't receive an order confirmation from deadnet, as usual.
The payment went straight through to Warner Elektra and was confirmed right away.
No reply from customer service yet.
I'm thinking of ordering another box, just to make sure I get a copy.
Is there anybody else with the same experience?
Gerd

I received my confirmation email. Have you checked your spam or junk mail folder??

That being said, I have heard of this situation before... but not for quite some time.

You can check the status of your order on dead.net. To do that you need the order number that came with your confirmation mail. Just because you didn't get a confirmation mail doesn't mean you can't find your order number. If you paid using PayPal, the order number is shown as the invoice id in your PayPal account or in the payment confirmation mail. If you were really smart, you would have taken a screenshot of the order page after submitting your order. The order number was shown there.

I had tears coming down my face I was laughing so hard. Sorry for your panic attack, but damn that was a funny story!

Thanks,
well, I have an order number through my payment. But this number doesn't show anything in my deadnet account. Unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to take a screenshot. Expected everything goes the usual way.
My spam folder is clean.
Hmmmh
G:

“Usually, I just blame the kids for stuff like this...” 😂
Women Rule!

As has been said, log into the GD Store (store.dead.net) with your email address and order number. However, if you don't have a number for the box, you can actually use any previous order number. I just logged in with my Dave's Picks 2017 order number and can see everything I've ever ordered from them.

Classic Keithfan!

My wife has the same comments on my Dead collection. We have a Sonos system on our main floor and if you pull up the music library by song, the first one you see is Around and Around. You have 45 Around and Arounds, she said?
I said yes, and they are all different, that is the beautiful part about the Grateful Dead. Que eye roll!

So the release date for #39 is next Friday, July 30, 2021. Subscribors are supposed to receive their copies before the release date so when is Rhino going to send out the Email announcement?

If your order number doesn't show up in your orders list, then I would get in touch with customer service. Sending a PM to Marye at the same time is a good idea.

Keithfan: Was hard to drink coffee while reading your ordering saga. Still laughing. Glad you got your order in after all was said and done. I'm sure just about everybody around here has watched it, but if you haven't seen the "I NeedMore Shows" cartoon on youtube, now might be a good time. Regardless of his Keith avatars, thanks to Keithfan's story and this cartoon, I now have an indelible image of what Keithfan looks like etched in my mind. Onward.

youtube.com/watch?v=yfy3uJrfVWo

Gerd: Hope you get your order confirmed without further nerve-racking silence from cuss-tomer "service". Sounds like a job for MaryE!

Not selling out any time soon... some of you hoping for a bit more time to hit click can breathe easy, at least imo. Just look at the 2018 PNW 73-74 box, which only recently sold out. Of course PNW was limited to 15k, this one to 13k. How long did July 78 take to sell out... and RFK 89 (which I love, also 15k btw) is still available. That said, I ordered my copy right away (and yes, if anyone is wondering, received email confirmation). Good weekend, y'all!

i dont know as much about him as i should but he is an amazing instrumentalist (anything with strings from any part of the world) and one of the best slide guitar and lap steel players i know, in addition to work with jackson browne (including running on empty) and ry cooder he has had extensive other session dates and a solo career including my favorite... his band El Rayo-X

the "pup" in the pic is a 12 year old english bulldog named milton, he has heard a lot of dead

3 mofo Birdsongs!!!

the title song to kaleidoscope's second album (68) is worth commenting on, this 12.5 min track seems to be an homage to howlin wolf and smokestack, it has kick ass harp, shades of interstellar overdrive and some very imaginative and musical feedback by mr lindley that (well im just gonna say it) rivals anything ive heard from the dead the who or jimi, their 67 68 and 69 albums give the dead's records from those years a run for their money, but as the dead got better and better kaleidoscope waned probably from lack of large scale success and their 1970 album (while pretty good) is def no workingman's beauty, the word eclectic seems to have been coined for them

This box set looks fantastic. It is right in my wheelhouse-- some Pigpen, fall 72 and any 73 is very welcome. Vguy, that Wichita show is still one of my favorite Dave's Picks and I expect these shows to rival that one.

I don't pick up the box set every year. In fact, other than the Winterland 73 and 77 boxes, I have only bought the July 78 and June 76 boxes. I pulled the trigger immediately for this one. For packaging, I really like the 78 and 76 boxes-- compact and beautiful. I still look at the artwork of the 76 box and it perfectly captures the elegance of the theaters they played.

Keithfan-- great story. I would not have gotten away with the Marcellus Wallace lines to my wife, I can guarantee that!

Another creatively hilarious and true-to-form gem my friend.

I could totally hear Marsellus Wallace; deep and menacing in your frenzied recounting.
Keepin it real, we all thank you for the ongoing guffaws.

Sixtus

Bacon /pigmeat from outerspace,
Is taken from the infamous Zigzag history/ interviews about the band.Supposedly written by Mac Garry, an early Zigzag writer if I remember correctly, but his name resurrected for this series of articles by I think Pete Frame, follows a US trip where Zigzag tracked down their musical heros, but I suspect any interviews, if indeed they ever took place, were lacking in verifiable detail, but were padded out by scurrilous and tongue in cheek anecdotes. Or perhaps the band did just not take themselves too seriously. An alternative history?or perhaps one as seen from the other end of the kaleidoscope?
What ever, it was the most entertaining rock writing I ever read, and I have ever since, used the allternative title, Bacon.

Just listen to Banjo from the record Incredible, it is fantastic! And then Cuckoo, before the magnificent Seven ate sweet.
Kaleidoscope prepared the ground for a serious love of Turkish instrumental music.
Their name accurately sums up what they were about, a kaleidoscope of musical influences.

with cheese

Gonna call up some Deadheads and go psychedelic on his synapses with some blotter and a bong

....Three tomatoes are walking down the street, papa tomato, mama tomato, and baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. The papa tomato gets really angry, goes back and squishes him, says: “Ketchup!”

Or something like that - I'll explain in a minute. First - thanks for posting that video. It's been a couple years and I always have to watch it twice. I remember the first time Jim posted it several years ago, and thought, nobody but we here on dead.net truly get the brilliance of it.

So, what really got me this time, is the wife in the video complains the outstanding "fraudulent" charge is $439. Hmmmm. That number sounded awfully familiar. I bought two copies of the box set (just in case). Checked my order email and with taxes and shipping it came to... yeah - $439 and change.

My vote for DaP 39 is 7/25/74. We need that last Dark Star from '74.

No, Bernice is no Workingmans, unlike the Dead I suspect the various musical influences pulled the band apart, the Deads greatness is in part due to their ability to synthesis the various musical traditions that the individual members brought to the mix. I suspect lack of success and an incomprehending music biz prevented the band Kaleidoscope from developing, and synthesising the various musical traditions so that often, I feel the musics full potential is not realised.
I think that Lindley has been a bit sniffy about the band during subsequent interviews, but they occupy a very special place in my heart.
Of course a similar trajectory can be devined if you observe the wonderful Mad River, Lawrence Hammond tells of listening by himself at a party to stacks of Country albums, and enjoying them much more than Mad Rivers music, (think Quicksilver, but with 3 (!)lead guitars). The Dead sublated Dark Star,/ Other One, and seamlessly moved onto Workingmans, the various strands woven into a new whole fabric!
Other bands simply disintegrated, citing artistic differences.

Whatever we do.. we cannot let our wives meet or talk to one another.. this is especially true of Dennis' wife, it might create a non-recoverable series of events of biblical proportions.

Gerd - I didn't initially get email confirmation when I ordered Dave's 38 earlier this year, which I bought a la carte. I emailed Marye, who told me she would contact Dr Rhino (?) to see what had gone wrong. She then got back to me and said my order had gone through alright, there were just delays sometimes sending confirmation out at the moment due to all the upheavals. And sure enough, I did get the email about a week or so after making the order-and got Dave's 38, too, more to the point.

Might require the Wolf! (Not the guitar)

You guys really have to stop. I got the Maria Schneider cd DeadHeadBrewer recommended(It's nice!!). Now I've just splurged for a Kaleidoscope 3-disc set. I'm honestly trying to cut back, but you guys are having no mercy!!
And Dave, If my wife so much as finds this site, I'm a Dead man(literally!!). She won't recognize the name, but my avatar is a Dead(there's that word again) giveaway!!
I need a place to Hideaway!!

Music is the best, but it might be the death of me!!

If the only thing you can take with you beyond the grave are your memories, music will be essential to the journey. The music that drives your soul past the known universe will have to be powerful and deep. Any good memories of life will have the background sound of YOUR music,,,,,, ok even the bad memories. (two out of three ain't bad, right)

If your spiritual essence is important to you, then the investment in your future journey is very important. If you went to a church they would expect 10%. Are you investing 10% of your income to YOUR future?

Wives,,,, what can you say, that they don't say about husbands?

Don't tell Denise about the box,,,, she's working 18 hours a day for OUR future and here I am investing in vinyl that will melt at the first good house fire. But I'm sure Allstate will give me true value for E72 and those purple Zappa albums are probably still available. :-)

I have a feeling 39 will be either a Pigpen or Brent show. The past few years have had a least one 80s issue, and we haven’t seen a Pigpen show since volume 30 I think. As far as what I’d want shows I’d want to see, 2/14/86(trust me) would be fun. February ‘86 may as well have been ‘85. Those shows are very good. Shows like 10/11/83 or 4/8/89 would be nice to have officially. I’m not so well versed in Pigpen era Dead, but it’d would be nice to have a release from then too.

I own and love every Box Set the Dead have released, and this is definitely one of the best ones yet. Capturing this transformational period in the Dead’s journey represents some of the most elegant and tasteful music they ever created, not to mention the extraordinary performances during this run. I can’t wait to hear each of these shows in all their Plangent Process glory.

Reading some of the responses here, I must be in the minority here. When I texted my wife the day of this announcement, she ordered it before texting me back. Not only that but she included the 5LP set and the 2LP set as well. She even threw in the slip mat for good measure.

On the product details tab in this box set offering, the dimensions should be added, let's just put 11 inches high x 11 inches wide x 4 inches deep for an example. Also, add the weight - let's say 4 pounds for example.

20 CD custom box set and the 13,000 unit limit with the release date are all good and fine, but it would be good to know more details of what you're getting.

Dennis knows what he’s talking about.

Kayak guy told me a few years ago that he viewed all his work collecting music as building his Audio 401k for retirement.

A Bruce release.

Preferably 10-31-91.

I ordered the same day River was announced but find it interesting that aside from the 20 discs we have no idea what it looks like.

Dave L did reference that the package was wonderful to put on our shelf, talked about the booklet's liner notes, writers, photos, etc.

But I realized how big of a step we DHs will take to get the music. I think it means my/our confidence level is high enough to buy the music without even knowing what the package will look like.

For me, this was an after-the-purchase surprise. I usually wouldn't buy something this substantial w/o having a better idea of what else I'm getting. Guess I trust that they (Dave and team) will deliver the goods.

Thanks Dave and team!

Every so often gotta give it a listen

Moonlight on Vermont......

I wish someone would create a cannabis variety called Trout Mask Indica

If not a greasy Pig Pickin', I can do '91, but would request Greensboro 3/31-4/1/91 on a 4cd set like DaP 36. That way we get two great Hornsby entries that are short enough to preclude box set treatment and one of them has a fantastic Dark Star. Would also mark the first DAT sourced DaP. But if it's two keyboardists on the next Pick, kinda hoping for TC and Pig. And a great Dark Star would be most welcome. After all, October is a long way off, thus that Fox masterpiece sequence is a long way off...

:)))

great to hear fellow Kaleidoscope travelers here...I was lucky to see them quite a few times back in So Cal...A fave was seeing them open for Grateful Dead & The Butterfield Blues Band in '69 at the infamous Rose Palace in Pasadena...Cuckoo, Bald Headed End Of A Broom & of course Taxim were always incredible...someone commented on the two disc set that covers pretty much all their best, just don't ask Lindley to sign it as a friend of mine did...He was polite in his refusal and was willing to sign anything else...do believe somehow the band was screwed out of any royalties on that...if that sound grabs you check out Turkish Psychedelic Guitar Whiz Erkin Koray who turned the Istanbul music scene on it's head back in the late 60's...good stuff...I'd put a lin* here but, well, you know...

Oh and another thing for you Beacon From Mars lovers...awhile back on another topic I posted the info for a UK based T Shirt Maufacturer who specializes in quality LP cover T shirts...they do have Beacon From Mars and thanks for the reminder, I need to order that...

....this site proves it.
Today is Keith's birthday.
Today is Brent's final show.
Today is my son's birthday.
7.23.

A unique band. A friend's cousin brought them to my attention in 1970. Their musicianship was exceptional. David Lindley gets all the plaudits for his skill on any instrument with strings, and rightly so, but the late Chris Darrow was well up there. His post-Kaleidoscope output is well worth checking out. It's a shame that Kaleidoscope fell apart so quickly. Who knows what might have been.