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  • #1281
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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

  • #1282
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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

  • #1287
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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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    >DAVEROCK>

    "It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

    HAHAHA

    I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

    Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
    Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Jim-I like the incantatory quality of Terrapin - the vehicle into the great unknown, I think you said. Its just that I like this vehicle to come right at the beginning of the show, so the whole show is presented as magical, rather than near the end, where it usually cropped up. I preferred the music to take over from the songs in the second set, and Terrapin seemed a bit too wordy, to me, for this to really happen.
But it a moot point - great song wherever it appeared.

In addition to some of the Terrapin shows listed (yes.. I think we should do them).

Any interest in 04/16/78, Huntington Civic Center WV or 5/25/77 The Mosque, Richmond VA (Dave's Picks 1)?

I haven't listened to them in a while and I like them both. This gives us something to work on for the rest of the week.. (as always other options welcome).

Sorry for being a bit preoccupied lately.. duty called.. but the work is all done for now. Time to relax a bit....

Thanks for keeping things moving in the interim.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 07/16/2021 - 04:54

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Good call on that one, Jim. I'll tune in. From my recollection it has a 1st set closing Scar>Fire. An early-ish Iko, from when they were rarer. And I'll bet that drums/space jam is going to be out there, too.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 07/16/2021 - 08:24

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180 grams doubled

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/16/2021 - 09:36

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Hopped in the truck getting ready to go boating and what are they playing on SiriusXM this afternoon?

4/16/78. Great recording, really good show from the Spring 78 tour. I was hankering for a good Peggy-O. I love Garcia Ballads, I bet I am not alone.

For kicks and giggles, check out The Bonnie Lass o' Fyvie on wikipedia. The song is at least as old as the 1600's.. but I swear I read references going back much further. Have to visit Scotland sometime.

Cheers all.. One more Friday night!

Edit: Yes, first set ends with a nice Scarlet Fire.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 07/17/2021 - 09:32

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I’m on it now and that Peggy-O sure was nice.
Scarlet just started.

Edit:
Now digging Jerry on Estimated.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 07/17/2021 - 10:11

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Credit to Oro on the DaP38 page, today is the anniversary of ‘Downhill From Here’.
I’m going to watch it tonight.

Thanks,
Great show!

SWING, not sure what it is, but perhaps my fav 77?
Did 6/8/74, meh, awesome second set sequence, but overall just ok for 74 anyway.
Hoping to finally hit 5/25/74 this WE!

Oh, long story short, servers drives dead again...it’s maker is frustrated as supposedly he gets more and more new drives that are fucked outta the box etc. so He’s becoming unsure which drives to use, forget what he ended up going with?

First operating drive was spinning disc, spent after about 2 years, so “we’ll replace with SSD as there more reliable”
Well that died too, now “SSDs are shit etc, we’re using spinners now”....Replaced OS drive, but now thinks Music drive is dead too?
This is why I fucking hate computers and thus never learned about them. There is no consistency or reliability at all, no one seems to know what their doing, they just seem to guess, by parts, and hope, and if not, repeat with different parts etc, etc... worse, it’s 6-7 hours round trip (in summer) and because it’s a custom boutique instrument, shipping’s out...

But what’s a freak to do, this running up stairs every 45 to 80 minutes and then having to stand in front of a wall of music and have to CHOOSE! is for the birds. @#&*+% technology, like women, can’t live with em, can’t live without...
anyway, my question is what kind of drives y’all using, or what kind would you recommend, and what kind would you denounce? I mean both which format, and what brands etc?
Can’t believe drives dying every year or so is status quo, then again...

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 07/17/2021 - 11:44

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I have Western Digital HD’s for storage and backup. Multiple backups, various size HD’s.

In fact, tonight I’m going to assemble a Thunderbolt 3 RAID mirror system using 4 x 10TB WD Gold HD’s.

Also have three Thunderbolt 2 RAID mirror setups: 2 x 6TB WD Black HD’s (two of them, one has GD in AIFF format, the other non-GD AIFF, and all bands in ALAC format), and 2 x 12TB WD Gold to backup all files (AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, AAC-320).

You can never have too many backups.

If you use your HD to actually play and listen to the files then you should expect the HD to die every few years due to heavy use. Regular consumer HD’s are designed for moderate use. Heavy use requires gaming/video editing HD’s (WD Black) or enterprise (WD Gold).
Seagate also makes enterprise and gaming HD’s along with lower performance consumer HD’s.

WD Blue is a moderate use consumer drive and is probably what is inside the black plastic case of the WD MyBook drives at Best Buy, Amazon, etc.
I have a lot of those black plastic consumer drives that I use for audio and video storage and processing, but have made the higher end RAID systems for redundant backups.

I play music on music players that use micro SDXC cards and plug the player into my stereo.

The HD’s are just for storage and backup, and they are unplugged when not in use.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 07/17/2021 - 13:07

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I passed that on....though I think he’s mentioned much of that....I’m just getting bad at retaining...
Luckily I do have a backup drive, but thinking I might get another....
The server is custom made for high end audio, it’s the only thing I use the machine for, no internet etc...so it is the unit I stream from. So I guess replacing these regularly is an unfortunate necessity of life : (
The price we pay to attempt to “get it just exactly perfect”

EDIT: I guess he’s going with Western Digital BLACK 0.5TB for Windows 10 drive., and Storage drive is an Enterprise 4TB NAS-specific hard drive from Seagate called the "Ironwolf".
We’ll see how long we get this go round...
Thanks Again!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/18/2021 - 09:09

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I've had ok luck with Western Digital and Seagate. Had a very bad experience with Maxtor ten years ago or so.. It's a crapshoot though.. you can never tell.....

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 07/18/2021 - 11:13

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5/25/74: one of those shows that you can just tell right outta the gate. Ok matrix, would love to hear a proper source!
Man those 74 Truckins are powerful! All this show neede was a DS, or phat PITB...or a 74 Eyes, that’s what it’s missing!

Good ole Downhill from Here last night. Been hitting all the summer 89 vids lately.
I’d put 89 on my Memorial Mountain!

Hoping to hit that 4/16/78 today. Ever since DaP 37, I think spring 78 is my new niche place?

EDIT: 4/16/78, nice little show, sure sounds good! Not on the same level as it’s neighbors, but enjoyable non the less.
Another notch in the deadbase...

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/19/2021 - 06:20

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Who has a pick for today?

The Downhill from Here DVD video is fantastic. So much energy in those shows. Might be best of the July 89 run.

Should be a big week with the Dave's Picks #39 announcement coming through Email. Some people should start receiving shipping notifications at some point this week. Seaside chat on July 30.

We are on a roll.. why not continue and finish with 7/19/89. It get's less love than 7/17 but it's a classic nonetheless.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.. right? I say we keep going.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 07/19/2021 - 15:22

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I was already planning on watching the video.
Almost watched it last night but decided to hold off until today.
Had set 2 on VHS in the late 90’s. If you haven’t seen the video before Cutler applied the “Cutler Video Protection System” where he overdubs himself talking in a few places because, as he says, “ I can’t have videos going out there with good mixes on them”.

I’ve got the complete show on DVD-R now.
It’s also on Utooob I believe.

Hopefully I’ll soon be able to watch all 3 nights on BluRay……
Yeah Dave, that’s a hint/request.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/20/2021 - 12:02

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I didn't know it at that time, but this was my last show. And it was spectacular! The mix I listened to isn't perfect, but it is still really good. And I do remember most of this show. I remember at the time, I told myself to take it easy for the last night of this tour. Nice Sugaree, loved the Desolation Row, which sounds much better on DHFH, Deal is a rocker. Chills still for several songs in the second set, Box of Rain, LLR and that Terrapin. Great Morning Dew and the Lovelight encore. Great trip down memory lane.

We would all benefit from cleaned up released versions of the 89 Alpine run. Let's get it out.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/20/2021 - 19:28

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You got that right Jim. I remember in 95 I was ready to go Chicago and something came up and I couldn't go. ☹️

Tomorrow's Pick. How does 10/26/80 sound to you all? There is a great soundboard available for the entire show. The sound evens out mid way through Iko Iko.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/21/2021 - 08:34

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Hey POTD crew!!
We've got a Box Set Announcement!
Pretty stoked. I sure do like some 71, 72 & 73 :)
Who called it?

Hope all are doing well.
I haven't been on Dead.net for a bit, got sucked into a big huge music collecting wormhole and something had to give.
It's been really fruitful so I figured you all wouldn't hold it against me.
Totally out of the loop, but glad to see you all are still Truckin'!

Hot Dog Good Stuff!

and throw in some Kiel for good measure

mind blown, grand slam, another dream realized!!

Jim - you were on it and I was like - love it, hope you're right, and no, really, no way its happening.

and its amazingly even bigger and better

ha - wrong again!!

GOGD!! Glad you're okay out there. Was wondering. Music collecting wormhole?? Tell us more. Really.

If anybody's looking for a pick after 10/26/80, may i suggest DaP 18 from Orpheum July 76. Got that sweet, delicate and carefully crafted, 1976 groove. Disc 2 craziness - Comes A Time > Drums > Other One > Space > Eyes of the World > Jam > Other One > Going Down The Road Feeling Bad > One More Saturday Night. The second encore Not Fade Away.

Stay safe out there everyone.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 07/21/2021 - 11:52

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it would burn off both of your little ears BlueCrow!

Did Jimbo call the box?
I haven't read through the months of action that have gone on since I checked out, so whoever wants to give me a synopsis of what I missed that'd be great ;)
But yeah I actually went on a collecting spree the likes of which I hadn't quite experienced before (and I was already hardcore).
Completed my GD lossless collection and then moved into some outer realms of collecting madness, which was dominated by a Huge bender with The Replacements and The Beatles.

I had to give TGOGD a rest for awhile after over a year of super intense listening.

A nice pallet cleanse as OB/Jim would say.

But you all were in my heart and mind and I'm glad to see you're all carrying on.
I'll try and keep better tabs, but this collecting music thing takes up all my time!

XOXO
TGOGD

I've been calling for both a Fox Box (72) and BCT Box (72) since give or take since Ventura came out. ..but when that pre-release Amazon tell came to light.. I did post I hope it's a Fox Box.

I think a few years ago I scripted a Dr. Seuss like chant calling for a Fox Box. I don't think I deserve any credit though.. lots of people love both this venue and the shows performed there including Garcia himself who raved about the Fox and the Capitol Theatres in an interview long, long ago. Just dreaming.. the place is legendary and we all knew the tapes existed.

It's a good day on dead.net, I'll take the win.

Good to see you, GOGD.. we have all done a terrible job trying to fill in.. big shoes to fill.. special shoutout to dvikes, the steady heartbeat that helped keep this all together. Sort of like the glue that kept this house of cards together recently.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 07/21/2021 - 22:26

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What a Box! Wouldn't it be great to be Dave L. To have access to all that unbelievable music! We are so lucky. Super excited to have another box set to look forward to in October.. ...

Great to hear from you GOGD and Bluecrow.
Jim, appreciate you and all you have done for this thread and this site, such a positive influence for all of us.

So when you have time, check out 10/26/80, because these 1980 shows will never be released in a box set. Anyway, recording is A+.
So funny Bluecrow, I had Dave's #18 going in the car the other night. Yes, disc 2 is so mellow, I want to kick it back and fill in the blanks.

Stay well.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/22/2021 - 14:38

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So in celebration of the Fox Box.. perhaps tomorrow we should pull a show from the other infamous Fox Theatre (the one in Atlanta).

That shouldn't be too hard.. anyone have a date they want to hit from the other Fox?

How does 4/11/78 sound?
I thought Dave would release this one at some point, but since he just released #37, I am not so sure it will be anytime soon.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/22/2021 - 19:43

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Sounds like me right now.. just got back from a rather fun birthday party, so I am seeing multiples.. Yes, there are Fox's all over the place. I am sure the GD played at more than two, but St. Louis and Atlanta had some mighty fine shows..

I am cool with 78. We should consider 77 and 90 at some pint in the future too. Fun times to enjoy GD music. I am really psyched for this box. The Fox Box. Low hanging fruit to be sure, but man these are some really good shows. Might as well let the fun ouzo into this thread.

Thanks to all of you for keeping it fun.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/23/2021 - 11:00

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Thanks DVikes.. These April shows sound so good.. why, oh why.. did they let Ms. Cantor-Jackson stop recording these shows???

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 07/23/2021 - 19:21

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Yes Jim. To my ears this might be the best April 78 show! Sound quality is A++. Performance is outstanding. For those of you that have never listened to this show check it out. I won't ruin it for you.

Still no word on #39. Given the latest news, I am hoping for a 1980 release. 🤠

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 07/24/2021 - 16:16

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Yowsa!
Great Pick!
Not familiar enough with this tour to pick a “best” but this bad boy outshines the bits of 4/18 I’ve heard, and 4/16, but still think I’m partial to 4/15, perhaps just because of that one caught me by surprise and knocked me off my feet?
This tour (April 78) is definitely my new favorite hardly explored niche.
And man, what a amazing sounding show! Not too much of that low mid bass/drums that sometimes plagues Mickey Godchaux Band occasionally (imho). Nit pick would be it gets a little thin near the end as they get LOUD...but that’s actually probably “accurate” for that era.
Kudos again to Miss Betty! Wow!

Did the first of the 6/86 Greek as it got the PF seal of goodness. Another great surprise, gonna have to finish that run off...

Murphy’s damn law, every time!
I’ve been getting all kinds of (new to me, or replacing copies with actual) music and several shows cued up on Relisten, but no damn time! Uuugghhh, this always happens lol. I know, good problem to have.

Oh, and currently spinning this Dave McMurray disc that just arrived...SWEET!

Hopefully new Dave’s next week, and RT 2.2 that I’ve been waiting on big time since I passed it up back when, idiot!
So can’t wait for that one to drop as I’ve never heard it!
Onward!

Oh, PS, a big how do to Bluecrow, KCJ, Exile, and many others on the Box thread, and of course our spiritual Scout Master, GOGD! Awesome how many “ir-regulars” have popped up recently...glad to see ya all!
Hope everyone stays safe/well as things are getting Stranger again...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/24/2021 - 19:50

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Not too bad either with that Shakedown out of an Ollin Arageed Space. Some funny banter during the show about a moat or alligator pit too somewhere in the first set. There's a radio interview Weir does adjacent to this show that's up on the archive. I'd say at least it's a worthwhile juxtaposition with 4-11. Jacksonville 4-8 is interesting, too with that butter Betty sound. Some of my best tapes BITD.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/25/2021 - 07:53

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I thought they didn't stop letting her record shows as much as she couldn't afford to do it for free any longer.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/25/2021 - 16:57

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They didn't pay her? I didn't think she was getting much.. plus she had to pay for her own tapes, but for free?

Say it wasn't so!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 07/25/2021 - 17:32

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She was definitely part of the paid Grateful Dead staff. Had different jobs or responsibilities through out the years and after Rex died. I think it ended after an issue with Brent in the early eighties.

However I think it is true that she was not paid for recordings she made with her own equipment. I believe the ABCD LLC transaction kicked some money her way, however, I have no idea how much.

Still planning on getting to 12/17.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/25/2021 - 18:48

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There is a cut at the end of the tape rendering Sugar Magnolia and the encore Johnny B Goode in AUD sound. This show is a nice example of the post-Egypt '78 sound. Overshadowed I suppose by the slightly more appreciated 12-16 and 12-19 (both also available only in AUD sound if memory serves). I like 12-12, too. We already listened to that here. Nice board of that. Wasn't Garcia jamming on the Bean in some of these December shows? At least the Nashville show I think. I gotta tune into 12-28 Golden Hall again sometime soon. Nice board of that around (and around) too.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/26/2021 - 09:17

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An aud patch? Outlandish, I'm out.

(kidding of course).

Nice little underrated gem and my first listen. I enjoy how delicate Jerry's voice is in this era, in fact all of '78 after his January laryngitis. Nice opening and Peggy-O plus a strong MNS show closer in the first set. I guess the wild card is the post space Shakedown, what's not to love there.. it almost seems like they are going into Morning Dew right before the Ollin Arageed jam. An interesting show.. patch and all.

I like this Fox themed diversion.. good way to show support for the new box set.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 07/26/2021 - 14:44

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Thanks for Fox Pick. Version I listened to was a little rough, but that is the deal sometimes. 78 was such an interesting year for the band. A lot of changes...

Looking forward to a 1980 pick being announced this week.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/26/2021 - 16:53

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His pick of the day a little over two weeks ago is the next Dave's Picks... Spectrum, 4/26/83. I thought it was super hot.

That show was hot, and I believe it was a good Healy mix?
Totally just stumbled on it trying to check off that tour.
Sometimes you get shown the light.....oh, and Dave’s first Shakedown!
It will be interesting to see what this one sounds like...

Sorry no time yet for the 12/17.....but it’s on “the list”

Did do 6/21/86 recently, following PFs recommendation of the run.
Was distracted, liked it, but probably first night better?
I think the third night is what PF suggested?...

FOX ON THE RUN, man, I’m thinking that 4/10/78 looks interesting, on paper anyway?
Might have to hit that soonish...
But RT 2.2 has arrived, wooohoooo, so hopefully that’ll be my Wednesday night batch night as the Mrs works late.
...and hopefully Dave’s for next weekend! So much Dead, so little time!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 07/27/2021 - 06:25

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So 4/10/78 Oroborous?

Let's give it a go.

Congratulations on another Philly show.

I guess Dave plans on living until 150.

No shipping notice here.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 07/27/2021 - 09:53

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Think I’m going to try and sneak that 12/17 in here at work, and save 4/10 for the big system as these spring 78 Beatty’s have been blowing my mind...if I get out early maybe I’ll try tonight?
But ASAP fo sure as I’m itching to hear it and have a wave of new stuff to get too. I know what I’m doing this WE (hopefully)...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/27/2021 - 20:45

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It's amazing to me what a difference a good recording makes. Especially when you are into it and turn it up to 11.

I am not an era hound, bound to certain years or band configurations.. but my comfy shoes seem to groove better to 68 through 74.. I can call it home to any show from any era. But good recordings do make a difference, which makes this head think the 80's and beyond would fare better through the eyes of history if Betty (or Kid or whoever [RIP Rex and Bear]) had been behind the controls, loaded up the Ampex and hit the red button.

There were some fine shows along the way that fell in the wayside simply because the recordings were not AAA+.

Great to see this thread move beyond barriers, I have learned a lot. (and to my dismay or great pleasure, worked a little less as a result).

Jim, you are not a Healy fan?
I think the move to cassettes also hurt the process. The reel to reel recordings in most cases really held up over time.

Because it looks like Dave is in no hurry to release shows from 1980, I thought I would recommend another show from 1980, 10/2/1980?

Hope you all receive your copies of #39 soon, I am looking forward to receiving mine as well, but it looks like it is not happening this week.

Edit: I am a huge fan of Pearson and John Cutler. Cutler did a great job in the late 80s and early 90s.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/28/2021 - 06:41

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Nothing personal.. but no, I am not a big fan of the ultra-matrix. I like my soundboards crisp.

To be fair, there may be reasons beyond Dan's control that influenced how the cassette master era came to be. I still enjoy them but wonder what could have been....

Certainly no hard feelings, bygones...