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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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March 20, 2022 - 4:57pm

#31

daverock

Joined:
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More art

One of the most stunning experiences I had going to an art gallery was when I went to see "Sunflowers" by Van Gogh a few years ago. I eventually found the room it was in, and noticed a huddle of people in front of a painting on the far side of the room. One of them moved..and there it was. It had a spotlight on it so that the yellow of the flowers shone out into the room. Amazing...but as I got closer, I realised that it didn't have a light on it at all - the light was actually coming out from within the painting. Truly extraordinary.
It's also quite an experience going to see his work in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. I just wandered in there by chance about 30 years ago. Wow.
March 20, 2022 - 2:07pm

#32

Oroborous

Joined:
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Conekid in the know

per usual!
Thanks, lol, never knew that request page existed. Goes to show, just gotta poke around!
Those will get utilized more now for sure…Smithers, release the hounds!

Yeah that RFK was probably too many units for what it was? Good example of doing say one of these a year at lower unit count along with a more traditional box release at perhaps less units?
But I liked RFK, (hell I think they’ve done a great job with most) because that stretch from summer through the next summer is prime time for moi, and it sounds great, but they certainly weren’t the best available, once again the ole he went to a great city and street, but picked the wrong house? ? Wasn’t it relatively pricey too?
But as we’ve all been saying, there’s a whole lot of causal heads out there who might not buy anything UNLESS it was something they were at. Perhaps explains the Giants phenomenon some what?
That was sorta my M.O. back around turn of the century: “I have more than I need so I’m only going to get shows I was at. That worked out sorta ok at first by sheer dumb luck, but I eventually realized
A) I’m not going to get many of those any time soon, if at all, and
B) I’m missing out on some killer shit!
The E72 Dark Stars are what really brought me back. Didn’t get the trunk but picked up several of the Dark Star shows Ala cart.
So started dabbling again, but mostly just wanted the music and not more stuff. Luckily or not, my cousin used to get a lot of the releases free through their business connections with GDP etc, but when that all changed with Rhino etc, they lost those relationships. So I was able for a while to get copies of stuff he had that I wanted.
But then I started getting back into it, hanging with you junkies etc lol, and next thing you know I’m a “collector”, just the thing I was trying to avoid lol.
So of course the down side of only getting copies is all the great collection stuff I missed out on!
The biggest regrets were the FW box and Winterland 73. The FW I just wasn’t very in dead land at the time and because of the repetitive set lists figured “oh hell, I have live dead already” idiot!
Luckily I have the mini version and you know who here tightened me up with copies of the box, so at least I have the music!
The Winterland 73, being fall 73, which even then was one of the tours I had huge interest in, I contemplated getting it, and man, wasn’t it really cheap considering, but I cheap skated out and have been regretting it ever since!
Some of the others I regret only as a “collector” now, though I should have grabbed that summer 78, wasn’t that another bargain box?

So yeah Daverock, the scene was relatively small until later. When I started going in late seventies there were tour heads, but not anything like what would come. I think the whole multi show run factor contributed to this. It was now much easier to just plan on a three show run or two, especially day on weekends, then to catch 5 or 6 shows, one stop at a time up and down I 90 etc.
Now I know old timers talk of how it changed throughout the seventies, especially that huge influx of kids like me in the mid and late seventies, but I don’t think it was near as dramatic as what we saw from late seventies up too 87 when it exploded, perhaps leveled off a bit, but continued at a steady pace that unfortunately just got too big to support it properly. Fame, the kiss of death…

ART: not a active art participant, but sometimes you get shown the light!
We had a great Albright Knox gallery back in the tundra, and on family vaca to Europe in late seventies, went to tge Louvre etc. Don’t recall a lot of specifics, Mono Lisa etc? But it definitely impacted my thick adolescent Beavis and Butthead dumb American skull. That whole trip would of been much more awesome if I’d only been older.
That Hopper work is cool. I’ve seen that corner diner one but wouldn’t say I was familiar. Will have to burn a fat one and check him out. Yasss great light etc. And yes, I can only imagine how much more sharp and vivid his work would be live!
Good sheet Mon,
Party on Wayne!
March 20, 2022 - 12:57pm

#33

That Mike

Joined:
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E-mail Survey

DaveRock - Awesome idea with the email to all the folks on the mailing list. Something that perhaps itemizes what is in the vaults (no use clamouring for reels that don’t exist), and survey to see what is in high demand. I know on the Neil Young site, as an example, he has a “Letters” column where he states he answers ALL the letters himself (I’ve sent a few, and always get a reply), and the bulk of requests are folks asking him to release this show, or this tour, etc, and he tells you if the request is even doable. I don’t expect the Core Four to answer Dead Head mail, but a quick email survey is interesting. Maybe it is as easy as Ice Cream Kid says, and we just hit up the request thread, but it doesn’t tell us what tapes are in the vault, and what condition, etc.

PS - Dave, you are right about seeing the art “in person”, but of course, work of say a DaVinci is so limited, so rare, and will not ever tour, that it would be so hard to see in person, save visiting Paris or Venice. But, should a major show make the rounds, like Picasso, or Diego Rivera/Frida Khalo, I’ve made a point to see it, and you are right - seeing a picture of these works does not do them justice! There is something about seeing The One And Only of something, knowing the artist worked on this piece. I’ll paraphrase Mr Ones al a “Music is the best”: “Art - and sports - are a close second!”
March 20, 2022 - 11:51am

#34

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

A new approach

Crmcnkd - I hadn't noticed that section asking us to make recommendations, so thanks for pointing that out. Maybe, though, the only people likely to fill that out are the people who come on here-all the old faces-and we know what they (we, me) will say in advance. I like the idea of reaching people who may not come on here - maybe an email like we get telling us what is coming out- but asking us what we would like to see coming out instead. The key is, it has to be "them" wanting a survey - as much, if not more, than "us" wanting to fill one in.

Oro - thinking of casual fans of different eras, it reminds me of the fact that Deadheads didn't actually exist in the 1960s. I can't imagine early fans travelling around the country to see them. I guess it started with the invite to "Deadfreaks" on "Skull and Roses", but I would think it took several years before the travelling circus developed.

It's interesting watching a documentary on late 60's San Francisco bands called "Go Ride The Music-West Pole". The main bands on this are Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger Service - but at one point an interviewer asks people queuing up outside a concert hall, who their favourite bands are. I was expecting them to say "The Dead" automatically-but they don't. They are mentioned but they were clearly perceived at that time as just being another band, along with the two mentioned, Steve Miller, Janis etc.

Mike - one of the great things about going to art galleries is how much more alive the originals are compared to the prints and posters you can see anywhere. I would say that going to an art gallery to look at paintings is a bit like going out to hear live music. If you go to any gallery, look at the originals, and then go in the gift shop and look at a book reproducing the originals you have just seen, the difference between the two is shocking.
March 20, 2022 - 11:23am

#35

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Rehashing past speculation

Don’t forget that several people, including myself, have previously told stories about talking to other deadheads who are completely clueless or disinterested in the official releases.

The RFK Box is 15,000 copies and not sold out, although the banner says “less than 750 left”.
My Boxes are packed away so I can’t check what the production numbers are, but 15,000 seems to be the limit except for a few releases that need an AME.
I think that the last few Boxes were in the 10,000-12,000 range.

Dave’s Picks can sell 25,000 due to people buying more than one subscription and resellers.
And if you subscribe early bird you get 13 or 14 CD’s for $100, which is a pretty good deal.

For those wanting to take a survey, there is a page on this site called ‘Requests - Box Sets’.
I posted on it this morning, so use the ‘recent posts’ button to get to it, or use the search box.
March 20, 2022 - 11:16am

#36

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

Boxes & Paintings

I am enjoying the discussion, because I’m hoping the marketing folks, or even the interns working at Rhino, see that this is a very passionate group of dedicated fans. Oro, I really think you have made some great points, and it is hard to please everyone (personally I have never been a hardcore 60s Dead fan, because that was before they came along with jewels like Wake of The Flood, Mars Hotel, etc, and all the outstanding concert material those albums brought forth), but so much work goes into the sourcing and mixing of the music in these boxes, and the art work, and the history to the scene happening at the time, that most, if not all, are home runs.
Oro, you definitely hit the mark on many points, as did others, but collectively, as a group of fans, our mantra is “Keep ‘Em Coming!”

DR - I love a wide range of art, and even doodle a bit myself, but Hopper is definitely an artist I have held in the highest esteem, for his amazing use of light and open space to paradoxically create figures of loneliness and solitude. If I can ever get my butt to NYC, the Whitney Museum of American Art is where I plan to sleep; the guy was an American master, and really nice to hear you too see his immense talent.

Last listen - McLaughlin/Corea - Five Peace Band Live
On Deck - Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed
March 20, 2022 - 9:47am

#37

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Great Discussion

I think I fall into the category y'all are citing here. Not quite into it as much as the die-hards but wanting it all anyway. The LTTR box was more money than I was willing to put out at the time so I chose the LIA vinyl instead. A trade off decided by my having already pre-ordered Dave's #1 vinyl and simply wanting to get more vinyl. Interestingly, all the fantastic comments have me alternately regretting my choice and being satisfied with a taste of '72. DR said recently the chunk I have on Light Into Ashes is the crux of the biscuit of the box so today I feel satisfied. My collecting took a hiatus around the time the big Europe '72 trunk came out but kindly folks here are helping me fill that void. Thanks to all for keeping the fire alive. It's so nice to have reliable information from everyone here in our disinformation shrouded world.
Cheers all!
March 20, 2022 - 8:06am

#38

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Great comments

Mike, the 60s vibe, that’s a good example of what I’m saying. To “US”, the hardcore lunatics at deadnet, there appears to be an overwhelming unified consensus demanding a 60s box, but perhaps if you did a survey like DR suggests, our sample might be quite small comparatively? Just talking out me arse, but worth a thought?
You’d think they’d be doing marketing , but maybe not? Maybe they have been so fortunate to have enough of a loyal, reliable, bankable demand that they could just go with whatever they felt was good?

Personally, I think it’s good when things don’t sell out immediately. Gives some folks like P.T. etc a chance to decide or what not if they want to buy it. Or maybe you didn’t hear about it right a way, and as the bastard Murphy would have it, your busted after getting yet another of your kids braces, while the other kid smashed the car, and your washing machine broke. Like “Whaaaa???, you want $300 tomorrow morning, Dooaahh”
But these are singular micro type scenarios and we’re talking macro level.
Maybe DR is right and the nostalgia factor is bigger then I think, in that logistically, because of age, there are more casual fans from the later years than the early ones. Hell statistically, comparatively there weren’t that many causal fans in the early years. Let’s face it, for good or for ill, as time advanced there were way more causal “lets just go party and check it out folks” going to shows.
So maybe that’s part of it, when/if something that this larger population feels more akin to comes round, their more likely to buy it, then yet another older moldy from a time they don’t know or care about because they’ve never been in that deep?
I guess it’s probably a perfect storm of all the things we’ve been discussing? All these factors add up and the amount of units we’re talking about isn’t really that large, so…
But!….that’s all the more reason to deliver more, but smaller batches of certain eras!

Though I understand why a Giants type box would sell so fast, I still, do not understand fully how this box, by now, has not? Shifting market demographics and saturation is my guess though?
Just goes to show…
March 20, 2022 - 7:14am

#39

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Tip of the hat

ThatMike - my eyes lit up when you mentioned Edward Hopper. I really like his work too. About 20 years ago there was great exhibition on in London, and it was a real treat to be able to go from room to room and get drawn into his world. You can see his influence sometimes in films -"Deep Red" by Dario Argento features a scene that is clearly modelled on "The Nighthawks". And although I can't think of specific examples at the moment, Alfred Hitchcock and David Lynch feature scenes in some of their films that look to me to have been influenced by Hopper's way of seeing things.
March 20, 2022 - 5:01am

#40

PT Barnum

Joined:
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format? sound quality? putting great shows with good shows?

IMO there seems to be lots of reasons why this has not sold out. I did not buy it and I buy them all. After the so so patch jobs on the PNW box which I did not care for, I passed on this box. These are all good shows, with great shows mixed in. Call me a snob but I want all great shows with no cuts or patches. If that's not possible then I will just keep what I got from the archive or from etree, why spend that kind of scratch for shows I already have that only sound a bit better?
The format could be the reason, some only want from the era they were a part of, mostly 80's from what I gather here. I like the progression of the band from psychedelic juggernaut to what they became, but not everyone's cup of tea.
Perhaps it's the ploy of putting out most requested shows with shows that are not up to the great show that they are centered around? The original great box was a tough act to follow, seeings how the E72 tour was their best tour and it was the first one released with a massive 73 discs. With that great price. How to follow that? It's been what tptb have been asking themselves since.
The spring 90 boxes are a good example of that also, a great tour with consistently great shows released at a great price, which sold out quickly.
But what do I know? just the ramblings of an old deadhead on the first day of Spring.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Donna's Singing

Daverock - I hear what you're saying about Donna's screams in Playing In The Band and I know others agree. My opinion is different. It's Donna and it's good old rock and roll. Scream away Donna!!

Still Water

I'll agree on the Donna front, there are a couple of songs I ALWAYS add a Donna scream when I sing. (if you heard that you would beg to have Donna back!)

Me and Mrs DJ have always liked a good Donna scream!

The constant morphing of the Grateful Dead....

....is why we are all here. Correct?
I sing as well along with the band. But not so well. And I play a mean air guitar during GSET.
Seattle Center Arena caught a grate one on 6.26.73.
The Dead morphed season to season.

Tune up time....

....Jimi loved that phrase while playing live.
Just need to get everything just exactly perfect 🥰

AJS....

How did you know I was listening to 4 3 86 today?

I was also checking out April '86 recently....

....grate minds think alike.

Last High Fives....

Los Lobos - The Neighborhood
GOGD - Seattle 6.26.73
Anthrax - Among The Living
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Phish comp - Cluster Flies
I love the fact that that Seattle gig is longer than the other four fives combined.
adding another
The Clash - Give 'Em Enough Rope
Music is indeed the Best.

Re: PF

It's the chip they inserted into your arm when you got vaccinated.. it lets us all know what you are listening to every second of every day.

I'd post the lenk where it shows this, but you can't post linques here anymore.

Sunday....

....Funday.

The silicon chip inside 'er head

gets switched to overload

One step closer to cyborgs...

Great minds...

Check out 3 21 86

Good stuff

I second that request.

I agree with VGUY72 that an Alaska Box would be a wonderful addition to the Dead collection. Especially the first show they played. I’ve heard it twice on XM and would love to have it Plangentized

Re: Baked Alaska

I also enjoy these shows.. one caveat and I might be wrong on this one... they are not currently applying Plangent Processes to cassette masters. Also, with the exception of 30 trips, they have not used cassette masters with Box Sets.. Since 30 trips was one show for each year, and there were many years where no reel to reel or multi-track recordings existed.. they had to include cassette masters with this box.

Just something to think about.

I think it's more likely to see these shows pop up in Dave's Picks. ..but who knows, they could do a one-off box of this run?? There's always a first for everything.. as for Plangent on Cassettes, I don't know what they have up their sleeves.. but I don't see this as something imminent or just around the corner. Still, tomorrow never knows.

A great run and a pretty magical moment in GD history. Steve Parish spent some time talking about the Alaska trip on his SiriusXM radio program. I can't recall the specifics enough to write much but the stories were a trip. Besides logistically getting all their equipment there which involved going through multiple borders and run-ins with custom officials, they had to hire this ex con truck driver and the drive alone scared the bejesus out of him so he quit right after he arrived in Alaska making everyone scramble to get their eqpt home.. the drive there was apparently frightful and involved a quite unwelcomed run in with local wildlife. If memory serves once they arrived but before the shows they randomly ran into a group of Inuits in a bar or something, again before the shows and invited them.. Bobby might have been a part of this. Anyway.. this women or group of indigenous Alaskan's ended up showing up at the shows.. (might have been just one woman, that seems to be memory. A young, cute, innocent Inuit woman showed up and made it backstage and hung out with the band and crew for the week) needless to say wild times ensued and gave a real artic experience for the band and all involved.. I think Billy K took his girlfriend and perhaps others in their circle whitewater rafting.. and the raft flipped in a hydraulic and 'almost killed him' which is an other interesting sidebar... mountain streams are frigid in Alaska any time of the year. Anyway.. I got a kick out of his tales from this run, sounded hilarious and made me wish I was there.

Good shows, the band was having fun and they are full of energy and that nice 1980 vibe. Plus.. there very well could be a middle aged, half-Inuit dude (or woman) out there right now sporting a tie dye, wearing Birkenstocks and hiding his face behind a beard that looks like a muskrat was surgically attached to his chin and upper lip. We will never now for sure... but the visual adds to the lore of the Baked Alaska adventure.

As usual something off topic....

For those that have wondered or didn't know.

I've call Third Man Records. From the website it looked like you could get a subscription for 65 a quarter or 240 for the year. It was not clear if that only gave you access to purchase vault releases or if vault releases were included. Well vault releases ARE included. Apparently 4 vault releases a year. You can sign up for a quarter and then cancel.

I mainly looking because they are offering the latest Bob Dylan (#16) as a 4 lp set (with no duplicates from the Sony 2 lp set). So basically I'm getting the 4 lp Dylan set for 65 bucks. I probably will not cancel and let it auto renew at least once to see what the next vault release will be. But 65 bucks for the collection seemed A-OK to me.

You can’t Plangentize a cassette

At least not yet. They would have to build a device.

The current device is for reels.
There’s a picture of it on their site.

plangentprocesses dotcom

Dave's #39

I hope that they release two shows from 1969 for Dave's #39. As much as I would like a big box set from 1969, deadnet will probably never release one, I feel that it might not be a big seller. Hopefully, they will release a 3 show run from the Avalon one day, I think that would sell.

Billy...

Why do you think a big box from 1969 might not be a big seller. All the evidence suggests otherwise. When people list their favorite boxes, the two most common favorites are Fillmore West 1969 and Europe '72. For years after the Fillmore West box sold out, people on here were pleading for it to be reissued. Also plenty of folks on here are asking for the Avalon Ballroom shows and the Ark shows from 1969 to be released as a box. Everything suggests that 1969 is a very popular year, and quite rightly so. Primal Dead was such a great period in the band's history. Certainly I'm up for a big 1969 box. The only problem I can think of is that if they brought out a big box, there might not be many 1969 shows left in the vault. Personally I don't see that as a great problem. I want as many 1969 shows as possible released before I shuffle off.

Big 1969 box set

I would buy a 1969 box set in a heartbeat, bigger the better. It seems to me that there might be to much repetition for people, but hell , I'm more often wrong then right, so Dave lets have that big 10 show 1969 box set.

Daves Picks 39

The dp39 show was sent out today. No idea what show we'll be receiving. Lets hope its 8/8/82. IMO the best show the Dead ever did!

DaP 39 and Tea Leaves

All signs point towards XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (previous comment redacted) {Philadelphia Spectrum (4/26/83)}, my Stealie Ouija Board told me so. . A hot one.

But a fall 69 or a Frost 82 would be most welcomed for Dave's Picks 40.

Those Stealie Ouija Board are lying motherf....

.......s.

Mine said 1983-04-16 - Brendan Byrne Arena - Meadowlands, NJ.

Size Of The Box Set

As long as nobody asked - I have concluded that the size of the box set is more like the Giant Stadium or Get Shown The Light box sets rather than Pacific Northwest. The phrase in the description is "the collection comes in a slipcase."
Those who are concerned about spaces on their shelves can breath easy.

Carry On!!

DaP39 is 3-9-81

39
3-9

It all makes sense

Fillmore West 1969 box

It looked for a while as though these shows were going to be released on vinyl on consecutive RSD's. It would be great if they could put out 3/1/69 at least.
I would think the next Dave's would be a late period show-that's 1979 onwards-and then maybe go out with a bang for the 4th of the year with...1969. Or 1974, which would sit nicely on top of the box.

Dave's. # 39. Frost or 1969

Both sound great to me. We all dosed at that 10/9/82 show, we really got high. The Frost is fairly close to my house, it was a great place to see the Dead.

If it is 3.9.81, that would be neat!....

....I just listened to that show a couple weeks ago. Posted on these boards abound the crazy intro into China Cat.

3 21 86

Stella Blue

goosebumps, I tell ya.

Dave’s Picks Priority Customer Service

Did all subscribers to the current round of DaP 2021 receive an e-mail from the above captioned service in the last day or so, asking if there were any questions regarding your order, and is there anything else we can address for you, like some five star hotel service? How proactive!

This must be what having the AMEX Platinum Bond 007 Edition ©️™️ account feels like…

Artwork

Artwork vs space on the shelf. I know where I fall on the issue

'69 Box

I would love a good 1969 Box Set. I think the key to a successful '69 box would be a lot of song variety and great recordings. There is no lack of either, so I think it can be done. As you mentioned Billy, repetition can be an issue for 1969. I think the Fillmore West Box set is the exception to that precept for a couple of reasons: for one thing, the multitrack sound quality is a huge plus for that set; another thing it had going for it is that it was the source material for most of Live Dead, which carries a lot of weight in Deadville; also, as repetitive as it was from a set list standpoint, much of the repetition came from Dark Star, The Other One, and other improv-laden jammy things - so I guess you could say much of the repetition was in name only.

I believe there is plenty of great sounding source material for say, a 6 show box set. Of all the Dark Stars, I am least familiar with unreleased versions from '68 - '69. I know 8/30 is great (aka "Vguy's Dark Star") as well as 10/25, 11/2, and if I'm thinking of the right one, 12/26 is really good. I'm sure you guys know a lot more.

But that's just the Dark Stars. I guess I started there because that's my personal favorite when it comes to the big jam tunes/medleys, and I kind of feel like at least half the shows in a box set from < '74 should be DS shows.

Other than that, there is good set list variety in late Spring and especially once Autumn / Winter hits in the latter months of '69. Maybe get a good show or two from those April Arkansas shows everyone loves (I need to listen to these).

Then toward the end of the year, there are some Uncle John's Band Jams, The Main Ten, and various jams. The Boston Tea Party shows at the end of December have some great set list diversity. 12/31/69 has an extended Mason's Children, a big Alligator jam, several rarely played tunes toward the end. If there are a couple of other shows akin to Dick's Picks 16 (11/8/69), there's a recipe for a '69 box set. And for this box - I'd get back to doing a bonus disc and put some great stuff in there from incomplete shows (the Woodstock Dark Star is pretty good IMHO).

DP 39

the suspense is killing me.

What? DP 39 has been suspended?

Sorry, jk, and a lame jk at that .

I too would love to know "the mystery pick"

Any day now
Any day now
It will be released

The packaging

Never thought I'd comment, but I'm in the process of de-cluttering my house, which means winnowing down my possessions to just CDs, books and some ratty furniture. Oh yeah, plus the camping gear, stereo(s), inflatable Alpacka packrafts, blah blah blah.

So I long ago put the six shows from PNW on my chrono-arranged shelf that highlights Jimi, Roy Buchanan, ABB and, of course, the mother of all recorded bands, the GD. And the PNW box itself -- despite its excellent and apropos artwork -- probably has to go. As in, heave ho.

Having praised TPTB's efforts to honor the music with creative packaging, I'm now going minimalist (except for ~5,000 CDs, a thousand or so books and two packrafts, three paddles, one PFD, three tents, five sleeping bags, etc etc).

Back to the packaging... why not go with compactness, as most of us take the CDs out for shelving? Cut costs, size, etc. Changing my tune a bit here.

careful with that bike, Eugene

While out and about today I came upon a cyclist lying on the pavement. He had slammed into a suddenly-opened car door. Not a horrific sight, but sobering. People had already called 911.

Just take extra "caution", my fellow Deadheads.

39 -- 4/26/ 83 Spectrum!

I just got an email seconds ago that Dave's 39 is Philadelphia Spectrum 4/26/83!!

Me too

Dave's 39 looks like a winner! Some more love for Brent! Thank you Dave!

4/26/83 setlist

The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (4/26/83)

Shakedown Street
New Minglewood Blues
They Love Each Other
Me and My Uncle
Mexicali Blues
Maybe You Know How I Feel
West L.A. Fadeaway
My Brother Esau
It Must Have Been the Roses
Let it Grow

Help on the Way
Slipknot!
Franklin's Tower
Man Smart/Woman Smarter
drums
Truckin'
Nobody's Jam
Morning Dew
Throwin' Stones
Not Fade Away

U.S. Blues

Dave’s Picks 39: 4/26/83

Y’all don’t know how excited I am for this one. My first Dave’s was #27, which I was able to buy for(relatively) cheap a year or so after it was released. ‘83 is one of my favorite years, and the setlist looks like it won’t disappoint, though that doesn’t really matter as long as the playing is good, right? I haven’t heard this show, and don’t have plans to until this arrives. Been digging the Help>Slip!>Franklins from ‘83(4/9, 9/2, 9/11), and I’m glad to see one hear too. Plus a Shakedown, Must’ve Been the Roses, and a Dew?! This is gonna be one hell of a release. And the art?! This is very exciting for me. Hope everyone gets this in due time, praying no one has to deal with these shipping fiascos.

Edit: I’m also pretty sure that this is the first officially released version of Maybe You Know. Good to see.

'69 Box

Keithfan -

I have been, and will continue to hope, pray, cajole and pound the table for the whole Boston '69 scene, from The Ark to the Tea Party shows. I was REALLY hoping the 2019 boxed set would be the 50th anniversary of these shows, was less than impressed with what we got that year, but it is what it is. Until then, GIMME THAT '69 BOSTON BOXED SET, Dave! Please. Pretty please.

Time moves in one direction, memory in another.......

Hey!! Rockers!!!!

I saw 5 shows on that Spring 83 east coast tour, and while 4/26 wasn't my favorite (Providence was, because of the Cumberland and China/Rider), for its era, that Philly show was pretty good. If you're a fan of the old time grease you might not care for it, but if you're an 80s fan I think you'll enjoy it. I know I did...............

LOL back then I seemed to be a Morning Dew magnet......

Rock on,

Doc
A good memory is one trained to forget the trivial........

Agree with the good doctor

A great show for the era. Our own Oroborous tossed this show out on the pick of the day thread a couple weeks ago.. so I have a fresh listen. I had never listened to it before and to my ears it's as good or better than the other 83 releases to date. A pretty Jerry centric show that really shines at high volumes. The vocals are what they are, but it's pretty high energy and a decent recording for the era.

Dennis.. your Stealie Ouija Board was only off by a month! Amazing show to toss out.. so close.

It's got a Shakedown!!....

....my 2 cents.

Excited for the Shakedown

but would have preferred 4/13/83 (UVM) on this tour.

Fun Fact of the day that I never knew....

....today is the anniversary of Brent's death (RIP). We all know this. But did you know that its also the anniversary of Dick Latvala's birthday? Well, now you do.

4-26-83

Seems familiar. Think I had it on cassette, then CD-R.
Will have to check the list when I get a chance.

I have no problem with the third release of the year being a Brent show. And we know that there are some smoking shows (summer 84, 85) that need to get Normanized and sent our way.

No tracking info yet. Hopefully it arrives Fri or Sat.

Edit:
My list shows that I have 4-26-83 Miller.97544.
Don’t know how long it’s been since I listened to it.

4/13/83

4/13 is an exceptional show as well. The They Love Each Other from that show is absolutely my favorite version. Plus a Cumberland and a Far From Me in the first set. The Scarlet>Fire is always nice to hear too. This was a peak year for the combo. And a Dew too! This show should get an official release at some point, but for right now, I’m happy with 4/26 being picked.

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